Recycled aluminum is cheap compared to getting it from boxite.
If the mirrors end up generating more energy than it took to get the materials into the conditions they must be in --- and also recycle/reform/rework those materials into fresh materials down the line ---- then I think we're moving in the right direction.
We need someone to open-source a design of one of these setups so we can build these ourselves and power our own homes with our wasted front yard space ---- the trophy yard is dying with the baby boomers.
Or we could grow fruits/veggies in our yards and cut back on the 400 gallons of fuel/person used each year to bring us our groceries.
I'm also a little ticked about it actually being only 5%...
but a little silver lining to look at is that 5% of the CO2 emittied from combusted fuel is a net-zero in regards to anthropogenic CO2 production.
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I just can't wait for JC Venter's (SGI) new $50/barrel algae setup to revolutionize energy in the next decade. We're all gonna wish our cars were turbo diesels when his plants start pumping out affordable diesel with net-zero carbon.
You keep pretending that a minority occurrence is greater than a majority occurrence. The sheer fact that the majority occurrence is of majority is demonstrable of its meaningfulness in general scope.
Yeah, maybe dropping out of high school can lead to winning the lottery for lucky chance and lack of an educated understanding of the odds of gambling... But that doesn't mean people should drop out of high school. Like I said; get real. Quit betting on rare odds like its the likely outcome... or in your case, pretending that rare odds are the likely.
By 'justifying laziness' I mean the often felt belief among those who have not achieved a mastery of knowledge that it would have been a waste of time. Your exaggeration of minority results to occlude that which is reality demonstrates that same naive belief.
In short: yes, you can get rich from doing all kinds of things... that doesn't mean a PHD doesn't mean anything... it means simply what it is and nothing more.
... this can't be possible. Windows is made by *professionals*. If anything, those Linux amateurs are just trying to smear Microsoft with lies..... jokes aside... It's a shame that microsoft has so much fackin revenue and yet their products are always seemingly half-assed. Throw another million at it! The guy who discovered this exploit should be on your payroll!... oh wait.. the execs and stockholders aren't rich enough yet!
I wonder how the math works out when comparing advertising and investing in politicians (lobbies) vs developing a solid product in terms of ROI.
And I bet there are a lot MORE non-phd's speaking about a field that shouldn't be.
Whats the point trying to defeat a generally true argument simply because there is a probability that it has minor falsehoods?
And your first line is just a vague attempt to justify laziness. No, that is not true. The more people are indoctrinated in monetary cultures they increase money hunger; but as they achieve higher levels of education they realize the petty nature of money and lose interest beyond basic subsistence.
Yeah.. there's a small probability I might be wrong... Bring it up. It doesn't make you more right, it just makes you look like you're scraping the bowl for answers.
I guess in the context of business it means very little... could get you hired in better positions maybe...
I forgot the context when I posted. A phd means a lot in reality; one being that the more higher educated people become the less they are interested in money. It also means you know what you're talking about in your field.
From my understanding it is talking about what you would do in court. In this case, bang on facts would mean to try to deceive the court or manipulate the truth. Facts are facts and I have drawn the inference that 'bang on' means 'play with' or 'manipulate' for your advantage.
I'm an American, and my current plans for working in the basement involve helping all of humanity without pay or profit and taking the losses of making it happen myself.
The American Dream is hardly applicable in 2009. (I'm not trying to nit-pick your post at all, by the way. I just want to set an example.)
I believe I read this on./ at some point, and it nails this nicely.
If the facts are against you, bang on the law. If the law is against you, bang on the facts. If both are against you, bang on the table.
It appears they are banging on the table.
Its a shame that the "If the law is against you..." part of that quote doesn't involve either changing wrongful laws or being responsible for your actions.
... the Internet is not available at high enough speeds for cloud computing to reflect anything close to using software on my home computer.
That doesn't mean I can't wait for it if its something that we're all moving to anyway; I'm just trying to bring up the obvious fact that there is lag in web apps and for some of us it might be a bit harder or longer process than others.
I'm ready to pay the $6/household that the major ISPs said it would cost to double bandwidth. I'm ready to pay it several times over. Is anybody listening?
Ahh.. bummer.. See, I thought the blatant evidence on Foxattacks (video of Fox TV) supported my argument about 'ignorant fools'. To put it clearly and simply, you have to be an ignorant fool not to actually see this blatant garbage for what it is.
to all of what you said... please add 'in our current culture and sociopolitical systems'.
We can do better than this. The flaws of mankind are not the natural but rather the cognitive.
It is because we even regard money as we do that these maladies to life come about.
Amass knowledge and spread truth for fulfillment in life -- come to peace with reality through understanding; don't be distracted as money is only a petty commodity of our simpler ancestors that we are forced to interact with for lack of greater common vision. We want credit for our efforts because we developed that idea when we had nothing else to show of ourselves. And by now the system is gamed so a small group of exploiters reap most the money without effort. We are greater than money, and we is all of us. Yeah, that newborn baby in Congo too.
I guess I forgot to add the point that I never expect a corporation to have honesty as policy at all and that I generally expect most of corps actions to have little to no regard for anything other than profit.
.. actually know what they are doing or selling. A 1 hour training video for a high school dropout with little to no real life experience is hardly a source for realistic and applicable technical knowledge.
You save on dollars at the register and pay later when its not what you really wanted.
I worked at burger king for 13 months when I was a kid... I didn't learn how to make burgers or fries, I learned what buttons to press to make the burger come out right (given its all BK gear and supplies). Its all the same... I worked for Sears too... same videos, same shallow knowledge to give the customers the facade of customer service.... And old navy... and the gap...
Buy local and you might find someone of experience in the field that has a level of person-to-person reverence; someone that is financially and personally culpable.
I'm glad to see that someone is taking real threats and problems for *all of us* more seriously than petty disagreements about improvable beings/entities and hoarding shit daily.
Thanks for being the first to be serious about it.
I honestly don't understand how there is some difference between Windows and DOS that would permit a mechanical lathe to be adjusted sub-millimeter increments with accuracy.
I'm guessing wherever you're getting your thought from is a software flaw, not an OS flaw.
I think the place you get your 'information' from that you seem to trust (though I doubt it is sufficiently backed by facts) probably stands to lose a LOT more money by being held accountable for environmental impacts...
but.. then again... who knows, right?
Right, it's a good thing you've sufficiently backed your assertions with facts...
Oh wait, you're one of those screeching idiots who says stupid shit like "I think" and then hammers SOMEONE ELSE for using information you "doubt it is sufficiently backed by facts", but provides exactly nothing in the way of facts to support your "I think" statement.
Why do you stupid motherfuckers make such obvious and moronic mistakes like that?
Well the guy didn't provide and resources and the things he said demonstrate ignorance to the highly prevalent resources that make evident the contrary argument. It was only safe to assume so...
My assertion is that he is getting information from corporation-influenced biased mouthpieces. I'm not with the guy, but it would be interesting to hear him say otherwise --- like that he has extensive experience in the field and/or can reference numerous scientific publications to support his opinion.
I doubt it, though. Most people who disagree with global warming estimations and theories are simply echoing false memes and exaggerated doubts that are coming from big financial institutions. And those same people point at extremely minor (in comparison to the contrary) publications as *proof* that the extremely major consensus is wrong.
No, I can't prove he gets his news from big corps. I can't back that. But he didn't post any valid sources, either, so until we see it I'll err on the side of knowing that his argument is backed either by outlier observations or spun media.
If only the wind turbines were on stationary towers, then they might be able to map them, and use such a map to inform their interpretation of the radar data.
If only the tip voitices stayed at the blades, rather than trailing for miles downwind.
If only "downwind" was always the same direction, rather than moving around when the wind changes - especially when it changes rapidly during a storm.
If only the vortices were reliably visible to the radar, rather than sending a variable strength return depending on how many raindrops are getting blown around by each section of it at any given moment.
You see the glass half empty, I see the glass half full. Someday, a PHD student is going to gather all that "useless interfering noisy junk data", filter it back into an extremely detailed physical wind model, to improve tornado formation detection and write their dissertation. I say someday, assuming that someone isn't already doing it. Possibly, in the future, it will be a marketing advantage to have a wind turbine generally upwind of a trailer park, because suitably advanced radar DSP technology makes it easier to detect tornadoes headed for the trailer park...
Most people do not quite grasp the entirety of the level of technology and innovation that humans have attained to date. It is hard for those who do not understand this to see the glass as you did.
An example of this: Right now I hear a TON of people constantly upset about plastics going into landfills "FOREVER!!"... I laugh about this because I kinda see it more of a temporary storage (given it doesn't get lit on fire or something lame).
We have, in today's mechanical/software/systems engineering capacities, the ability to design and produce Wall-E like robots that detect and sort complex mixtures of substrates into separate bins/allocations for recycling. This is not a hard thing to do, at all, if you follow and see the current state of robotics, software engineering, etc... I read physorg.com all the time and see so many potentials between the lines.
And so until someone (I hope some rich investor reads this and takess my idea and makes these robots) gets this idea and develops it --- yes, the plastic will be there 'FOREVER!'... but hopefully, someday, we'll allocate resources either privately or publicly to make what is already possible 'happen' and undo the damnation of 'forever'. lol.
Some estimates of technology place 90% of human activities to be automatable. When I think about it, I smile about how true it is when I imagine the possibilities, and then frown at how we presently 'waste' our time by not innovating these automations today.
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Recycled aluminum is cheap compared to getting it from boxite.
If the mirrors end up generating more energy than it took to get the materials into the conditions they must be in --- and also recycle/reform/rework those materials into fresh materials down the line ---- then I think we're moving in the right direction.
We need someone to open-source a design of one of these setups so we can build these ourselves and power our own homes with our wasted front yard space ---- the trophy yard is dying with the baby boomers.
Or we could grow fruits/veggies in our yards and cut back on the 400 gallons of fuel/person used each year to bring us our groceries.
I'm also a little ticked about it actually being only 5%...
but a little silver lining to look at is that 5% of the CO2 emittied from combusted fuel is a net-zero in regards to anthropogenic CO2 production.
----------------------
I just can't wait for JC Venter's (SGI) new $50/barrel algae setup to revolutionize energy in the next decade. We're all gonna wish our cars were turbo diesels when his plants start pumping out affordable diesel with net-zero carbon.
by the way.. for references do you really need me to google the average wages of phd vs bachelors vs high school vs dropouts?
the sky is blue. look up.
You keep pretending that a minority occurrence is greater than a majority occurrence. The sheer fact that the majority occurrence is of majority is demonstrable of its meaningfulness in general scope.
Yeah, maybe dropping out of high school can lead to winning the lottery for lucky chance and lack of an educated understanding of the odds of gambling... But that doesn't mean people should drop out of high school. Like I said; get real. Quit betting on rare odds like its the likely outcome... or in your case, pretending that rare odds are the likely.
By 'justifying laziness' I mean the often felt belief among those who have not achieved a mastery of knowledge that it would have been a waste of time. Your exaggeration of minority results to occlude that which is reality demonstrates that same naive belief.
In short: yes, you can get rich from doing all kinds of things... that doesn't mean a PHD doesn't mean anything... it means simply what it is and nothing more.
... this can't be possible. Windows is made by *professionals*. If anything, those Linux amateurs are just trying to smear Microsoft with lies. .... jokes aside... It's a shame that microsoft has so much fackin revenue and yet their products are always seemingly half-assed. Throw another million at it! The guy who discovered this exploit should be on your payroll! ... oh wait.. the execs and stockholders aren't rich enough yet!
I wonder how the math works out when comparing advertising and investing in politicians (lobbies) vs developing a solid product in terms of ROI.
And I bet there are a lot MORE non-phd's speaking about a field that shouldn't be.
Whats the point trying to defeat a generally true argument simply because there is a probability that it has minor falsehoods?
And your first line is just a vague attempt to justify laziness. No, that is not true. The more people are indoctrinated in monetary cultures they increase money hunger; but as they achieve higher levels of education they realize the petty nature of money and lose interest beyond basic subsistence.
Yeah.. there's a small probability I might be wrong... Bring it up. It doesn't make you more right, it just makes you look like you're scraping the bowl for answers.
I guess in the context of business it means very little... could get you hired in better positions maybe...
I forgot the context when I posted. A phd means a lot in reality; one being that the more higher educated people become the less they are interested in money. It also means you know what you're talking about in your field.
Whoosh.
Over your head, or mine? Care to explain?
From my understanding it is talking about what you would do in court. In this case, bang on facts would mean to try to deceive the court or manipulate the truth. Facts are facts and I have drawn the inference that 'bang on' means 'play with' or 'manipulate' for your advantage.
Lol. A Ph.D DOES mean something. Get real.
I'm an American, and my current plans for working in the basement involve helping all of humanity without pay or profit and taking the losses of making it happen myself.
The American Dream is hardly applicable in 2009. (I'm not trying to nit-pick your post at all, by the way. I just want to set an example.)
I believe I read this on ./ at some point, and it nails this nicely.
If the facts are against you, bang on the law. If the law is against you, bang on the facts. If both are against you, bang on the table.
It appears they are banging on the table.
Its a shame that the "If the law is against you..." part of that quote doesn't involve either changing wrongful laws or being responsible for your actions.
Actually, in Texas, we call that due process.
Slashdot mods you 'Funny'.
Texans mod you "Informative"
... the Internet is not available at high enough speeds for cloud computing to reflect anything close to using software on my home computer.
That doesn't mean I can't wait for it if its something that we're all moving to anyway; I'm just trying to bring up the obvious fact that there is lag in web apps and for some of us it might be a bit harder or longer process than others.
I'm ready to pay the $6/household that the major ISPs said it would cost to double bandwidth. I'm ready to pay it several times over. Is anybody listening?
Ahh.. bummer.. See, I thought the blatant evidence on Foxattacks (video of Fox TV) supported my argument about 'ignorant fools'. To put it clearly and simply, you have to be an ignorant fool not to actually see this blatant garbage for what it is.
Supporting evidence. Get a clue. GET IT NOW?
Is it ad hominem if it is true?
to all of what you said... please add 'in our current culture and sociopolitical systems'.
We can do better than this. The flaws of mankind are not the natural but rather the cognitive.
It is because we even regard money as we do that these maladies to life come about.
Amass knowledge and spread truth for fulfillment in life -- come to peace with reality through understanding; don't be distracted as money is only a petty commodity of our simpler ancestors that we are forced to interact with for lack of greater common vision. We want credit for our efforts because we developed that idea when we had nothing else to show of ourselves. And by now the system is gamed so a small group of exploiters reap most the money without effort. We are greater than money, and we is all of us. Yeah, that newborn baby in Congo too.
I guess I forgot to add the point that I never expect a corporation to have honesty as policy at all and that I generally expect most of corps actions to have little to no regard for anything other than profit.
Very good point.
I bet you're not bothered that your favorite 'journalists' are fed training videos as well..
yeah... its a joke to distort the truth and promote deception of consumers for profit.
.. actually know what they are doing or selling. A 1 hour training video for a high school dropout with little to no real life experience is hardly a source for realistic and applicable technical knowledge.
You save on dollars at the register and pay later when its not what you really wanted.
I worked at burger king for 13 months when I was a kid... I didn't learn how to make burgers or fries, I learned what buttons to press to make the burger come out right (given its all BK gear and supplies). Its all the same... I worked for Sears too... same videos, same shallow knowledge to give the customers the facade of customer service.... And old navy... and the gap...
Buy local and you might find someone of experience in the field that has a level of person-to-person reverence; someone that is financially and personally culpable.
I'm glad to see that someone is taking real threats and problems for *all of us* more seriously than petty disagreements about improvable beings/entities and hoarding shit daily.
Thanks for being the first to be serious about it.
Yeah, but there is a difference between saying "It can't" and saying "It was never needed, so it was never done"
lol.. i know... and i like linux.
I honestly don't understand how there is some difference between Windows and DOS that would permit a mechanical lathe to be adjusted sub-millimeter increments with accuracy.
I'm guessing wherever you're getting your thought from is a software flaw, not an OS flaw.
Right, it's a good thing you've sufficiently backed your assertions with facts...
Oh wait, you're one of those screeching idiots who says stupid shit like "I think" and then hammers SOMEONE ELSE for using information you "doubt it is sufficiently backed by facts", but provides exactly nothing in the way of facts to support your "I think" statement.
Why do you stupid motherfuckers make such obvious and moronic mistakes like that?
Well the guy didn't provide and resources and the things he said demonstrate ignorance to the highly prevalent resources that make evident the contrary argument. It was only safe to assume so...
My assertion is that he is getting information from corporation-influenced biased mouthpieces. I'm not with the guy, but it would be interesting to hear him say otherwise --- like that he has extensive experience in the field and/or can reference numerous scientific publications to support his opinion.
I doubt it, though. Most people who disagree with global warming estimations and theories are simply echoing false memes and exaggerated doubts that are coming from big financial institutions. And those same people point at extremely minor (in comparison to the contrary) publications as *proof* that the extremely major consensus is wrong.
No, I can't prove he gets his news from big corps. I can't back that. But he didn't post any valid sources, either, so until we see it I'll err on the side of knowing that his argument is backed either by outlier observations or spun media.
If only the wind turbines were on stationary towers, then they might be able to map them, and use such a map to inform their interpretation of the radar data.
If only the tip voitices stayed at the blades, rather than trailing for miles downwind.
If only "downwind" was always the same direction, rather than moving around when the wind changes - especially when it changes rapidly during a storm.
If only the vortices were reliably visible to the radar, rather than sending a variable strength return depending on how many raindrops are getting blown around by each section of it at any given moment.
You see the glass half empty, I see the glass half full. Someday, a PHD student is going to gather all that "useless interfering noisy junk data", filter it back into an extremely detailed physical wind model, to improve tornado formation detection and write their dissertation. I say someday, assuming that someone isn't already doing it. Possibly, in the future, it will be a marketing advantage to have a wind turbine generally upwind of a trailer park, because suitably advanced radar DSP technology makes it easier to detect tornadoes headed for the trailer park...
Most people do not quite grasp the entirety of the level of technology and innovation that humans have attained to date. It is hard for those who do not understand this to see the glass as you did.
An example of this:
Right now I hear a TON of people constantly upset about plastics going into landfills "FOREVER!!"... I laugh about this because I kinda see it more of a temporary storage (given it doesn't get lit on fire or something lame).
We have, in today's mechanical/software/systems engineering capacities, the ability to design and produce Wall-E like robots that detect and sort complex mixtures of substrates into separate bins/allocations for recycling. This is not a hard thing to do, at all, if you follow and see the current state of robotics, software engineering, etc... I read physorg.com all the time and see so many potentials between the lines.
And so until someone (I hope some rich investor reads this and takess my idea and makes these robots) gets this idea and develops it --- yes, the plastic will be there 'FOREVER!'... but hopefully, someday, we'll allocate resources either privately or publicly to make what is already possible 'happen' and undo the damnation of 'forever'. lol.
Some estimates of technology place 90% of human activities to be automatable. When I think about it, I smile about how true it is when I imagine the possibilities, and then frown at how we presently 'waste' our time by not innovating these automations today.