maybe if you read my earlier reply which i linked to you would have seen that i agree with you, and, given the choice, i believe that the american people would agree as well.
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i found a MUCH more detailed and probably more impartial bio on pbs.org.
in short, he forewarned Saudi of Saddam's invasions and offered the forces he had lead in Afghanistan to repel them, but instead found that the United States was coming to his country. with a degree in economics he could plainly see that the US was there to stay.
-sam
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amazing, isn't it. i've been posting about that lately, too.
afghanistan is in a precarious position (no, not the back of a VW). imagine if, say, Colin Powell, after Desert Storm, instead of remaining an outstanding citizen, went to an economics school and became a religious fundamentalist, setting out to 'liberate' Canada from their 'oppressive socialist' regimes.
it is such a state of affairs in Afghanistan, as bin Laden, a national hero for fighting the Soviets (with, as you said, US funds), went to economics school and became a religious fundamentalist, setting out to 'liberate' his homeland of Saudi Arabia from the 'oppressive capitalist' regimes.
for MUCH more on this subject, check out the discussion on kuro5hin, or better yet, a short biography of bin Laden on abcnews.com.
i agree, but I would rephrase to say that this IS a good time to question the PAST behavior of our government, while SUPPORTING the government as a unified nation as it goes forward.
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absolutely.
but another of the main problems is that the people of America have absolutely no idea of what is going on. you tell people that the biggest export of the US is arms, and people are going to say 'what?' because they have absolutely no idea what is going on.
and that is what i hope changes. i believe that the people of the US (an ostensibly democratic nation) would choose NOT to do many of the atrocities which our nation commits IN OUR NAMES in the Middle East and just about everywhere else (Africa, central Europe).
we need full disclosure of our government's activities abroad. if these activities need to remain secret, we need to ask ourselves why they need to be secret. i would guess that most Americans would choose a government which does NOT conduct government puppetry abroad.
-sam
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let's not forget that the US and others would LOVE to send aid, food, medicine, etc, to the PEOPLE of Iraq. However Saddam does not allow this. and let's not forget that it was an Iraqi army which marched over Kuwait, and was repelled. and let's not forget that it has been Iraq which has persisted in the attempt to build nuclear and biological weapons when it is obvious that Saddam cannot be allowed to possess these weapons.
bottom line: food, medicine, and other aid is readily offered to the people of Iraq. the government of Iraq (Saddam) will not allow this aid to be given, then turns and tells the people of Iraq that the US denies them food, medicine, and safety. that the US bombs them without cause.
maybe Saddam should stop trying to build biological weapons and allow his people to eat. but then he wouldn't have fear to rule them with.
i can't believe i am saying this, but perhaps Saddam should look to Khadafi (yes, Khadafi) as an example of a leader who sets aside his own goals and looks to provide his people with a future in the next century.
the point would be to make sure that these terrorists cannot move freely - to enlist all the nations of the world to destroying terrorism.
of course, the United States would have to stop being a terrorist state also, maybe stop arming rebels (like they funded Usama bin Laden while he was a hailed 'freedom fighter' for Afghanistan vs. the Soviet Union).
i hate to get suckered into a BSD v. GPL 'discussion'... but i wanted to add my 2 cents worth this time.
you said you've been wanting to move away from the GPL towards BSD (or something), and i wanted to tell you that i came the other way recently. i've been a BSD zealot/advocate for a long time, as it was easy to see the advantages to using BSD and Apache licenses: my code was 'protected' (as well as modifications) such that i did not have to release my source, etc.
but then i really took a look at the GPL, and freedom. here i was, taking the work of people, bundling them up with some of my work, and releasing them. this was great for me, but somehow it never felt right to not offer the same rights to the people downstream of me that i received.
and i think that is what the GPL is about, a real spirit of sharing and cooperation. you have to feel that way, and no amount of RMS screaming is going to change people's minds. so as for me, the GPL license just fits with my personality, of sharing with others the same benefits that i received, with the added stipulation that they not deny the same rights to those downstream from them.
but at least i can recognise that not EVERYbody wants to share their code in that way. it is like any other idea, you are never going to get everyone to agree to one side or the other, so why try so hard when you could be doing something productive instead?
that's the beauty of open source programming -- and one of its downfalls. with open source, we CAN look at the internals of the software, judging the design to be a kludge (most likely) or something better. i say this can be a downfall, because with this comes the burden on a programmer who wants to open source some code -- making it 'pretty' enough to be released. We saw that with slash in the early years:
Us: 'Show us the code!'
Rob: 'It is too ugly and I do not want it seen yet.'
(I suppose to be fair Rob's misquote should read 'Its too ugly'. Yes, the spelling is meant to be a joke.)
not likely. i go to the library often and all 15 copies are usually checked out. so i've been catching up on heinlein and asimov -- the kiddies tend to leave them on the shelves.
my true hope is that from this generation of harry potter lovers will come an older, more mature generation of people who broadly enjoy SF and Fantasy books from many authors. and maybe --just maybe-- one of these harry potter readers will eventually write a great story for me to read that would never have been written.
this is one of the great benefits of great film, literature, etc (programming also), the tendency to inspire great works in others. i think that the harry potter series, if nothing else, goes a long way to inspiring an entirely new generation of kids to think about the world in a creative way which they would otherwise have ignored.
Anyone know if they have fixed the problems with the FreeBSD compile? After a TON of hacking , I eventually gave up and decided to wait a bit. Now I've waited long enough that Linux 2.4 made me decide to switch from BSD to Linux, and so now maybe I can try Berlin after all...
What's cool about this technology, if it is indeed true (and they had a supposedly impartial contractor supervising) is that they claim no buffering time. From the article:
There was no down load time, no broadband infrastructure and impressive picture quality. The most significant element of 'no download time' compares to the minimum of 20 to 40 minutes (and maximum of a few hours) required for the download of the five US studios' system, currently known as MovieFly.
this not only affects these internet appliances, but computer desk and chair manufacturers as well. I have this nice desk and ergonomic chair in my office, but I -never- sit there because I can sit on the La-Z-Boy with my wireless laptop. When my wife started law school, I made sure she had a nice desk of her own to sit at with her laptop and books. Of course she has a wireless card now also and there is competition at the La-Z-Boy.
which is why some real gnu distros like debian 'gnu/linux' will NOT ship this plugin, even if it was free. they'll leave the waffling to red hat, etc, etc.
Just have a notice stating that all connections may be monitored for content, and if people don't like that they don't have to use your network. And when you find them using kiddie porn you blacklist their MAC address.
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maybe if you read my earlier reply which i linked to you would have seen that i agree with you, and, given the choice, i believe that the american people would agree as well.
i found a MUCH more detailed and probably more impartial bio on pbs.org.
in short, he forewarned Saudi of Saddam's invasions and offered the forces he had lead in Afghanistan to repel them, but instead found that the United States was coming to his country. with a degree in economics he could plainly see that the US was there to stay.
-sam
amazing, isn't it. i've been posting about that lately, too.
afghanistan is in a precarious position (no, not the back of a VW). imagine if, say, Colin Powell, after Desert Storm, instead of remaining an outstanding citizen, went to an economics school and became a religious fundamentalist, setting out to 'liberate' Canada from their 'oppressive socialist' regimes.
it is such a state of affairs in Afghanistan, as bin Laden, a national hero for fighting the Soviets (with, as you said, US funds), went to economics school and became a religious fundamentalist, setting out to 'liberate' his homeland of Saudi Arabia from the 'oppressive capitalist' regimes.
for MUCH more on this subject, check out the discussion on kuro5hin, or better yet, a short biography of bin Laden on abcnews.com.
i agree, but I would rephrase to say that this IS a good time to question the PAST behavior of our government, while SUPPORTING the government as a unified nation as it goes forward.
for more on this topic, read my earlier reply.
-sam
absolutely.
but another of the main problems is that the people of America have absolutely no idea of what is going on. you tell people that the biggest export of the US is arms, and people are going to say 'what?' because they have absolutely no idea what is going on.
and that is what i hope changes. i believe that the people of the US (an ostensibly democratic nation) would choose NOT to do many of the atrocities which our nation commits IN OUR NAMES in the Middle East and just about everywhere else (Africa, central Europe).
we need full disclosure of our government's activities abroad. if these activities need to remain secret, we need to ask ourselves why they need to be secret. i would guess that most Americans would choose a government which does NOT conduct government puppetry abroad.
-sam
let's not forget that the US and others would LOVE to send aid, food, medicine, etc, to the PEOPLE of Iraq. However Saddam does not allow this. and let's not forget that it was an Iraqi army which marched over Kuwait, and was repelled. and let's not forget that it has been Iraq which has persisted in the attempt to build nuclear and biological weapons when it is obvious that Saddam cannot be allowed to possess these weapons.
bottom line: food, medicine, and other aid is readily offered to the people of Iraq. the government of Iraq (Saddam) will not allow this aid to be given, then turns and tells the people of Iraq that the US denies them food, medicine, and safety. that the US bombs them without cause.
maybe Saddam should stop trying to build biological weapons and allow his people to eat. but then he wouldn't have fear to rule them with.
i can't believe i am saying this, but perhaps Saddam should look to Khadafi (yes, Khadafi) as an example of a leader who sets aside his own goals and looks to provide his people with a future in the next century.
-sam
you heard wrong. the afghan rebel group northern light has claimed responsibility for the bombings there (kabul).
it is confirmed that the bombers in afghanistan are the northern light, opponents of the taliban.
since they can move freely
the point would be to make sure that these terrorists cannot move freely - to enlist all the nations of the world to destroying terrorism.
of course, the United States would have to stop being a terrorist state also, maybe stop arming rebels (like they funded Usama bin Laden while he was a hailed 'freedom fighter' for Afghanistan vs. the Soviet Union).
-sam
Couple of minor differences, mostly concerning the 'goals':
The goals of the corporation are to increase shareholder value.
The goals of the government (ostensibly) are the goals of the people. (I know, it doesn't always work out like this...)
-sam
i hate to get suckered into a BSD v. GPL 'discussion'... but i wanted to add my 2 cents worth this time.
you said you've been wanting to move away from the GPL towards BSD (or something), and i wanted to tell you that i came the other way recently. i've been a BSD zealot/advocate for a long time, as it was easy to see the advantages to using BSD and Apache licenses: my code was 'protected' (as well as modifications) such that i did not have to release my source, etc.
but then i really took a look at the GPL, and freedom. here i was, taking the work of people, bundling them up with some of my work, and releasing them. this was great for me, but somehow it never felt right to not offer the same rights to the people downstream of me that i received.
and i think that is what the GPL is about, a real spirit of sharing and cooperation. you have to feel that way, and no amount of RMS screaming is going to change people's minds. so as for me, the GPL license just fits with my personality, of sharing with others the same benefits that i received, with the added stipulation that they not deny the same rights to those downstream from them.
but at least i can recognise that not EVERYbody wants to share their code in that way. it is like any other idea, you are never going to get everyone to agree to one side or the other, so why try so hard when you could be doing something productive instead?
that's the beauty of open source programming -- and one of its downfalls. with open source, we CAN look at the internals of the software, judging the design to be a kludge (most likely) or something better. i say this can be a downfall, because with this comes the burden on a programmer who wants to open source some code -- making it 'pretty' enough to be released. We saw that with slash in the early years:
Us: 'Show us the code!'
Rob: 'It is too ugly and I do not want it seen yet.'
(I suppose to be fair Rob's misquote should read 'Its too ugly'. Yes, the spelling is meant to be a joke.)
not likely. i go to the library often and all 15 copies are usually checked out. so i've been catching up on heinlein and asimov -- the kiddies tend to leave them on the shelves.
my true hope is that from this generation of harry potter lovers will come an older, more mature generation of people who broadly enjoy SF and Fantasy books from many authors. and maybe --just maybe-- one of these harry potter readers will eventually write a great story for me to read that would never have been written.
this is one of the great benefits of great film, literature, etc (programming also), the tendency to inspire great works in others. i think that the harry potter series, if nothing else, goes a long way to inspiring an entirely new generation of kids to think about the world in a creative way which they would otherwise have ignored.
About trying to build on FreeBSD, see my comment below .
WOW am I a MORON. I happily cut-and-pasted a nice intranet URL :). Here is the real page caloguing my efforts with Berlin and BSD: HERE.
Anyone know if they have fixed the problems with the FreeBSD compile? After a TON of hacking , I eventually gave up and decided to wait a bit. Now I've waited long enough that Linux 2.4 made me decide to switch from BSD to Linux, and so now maybe I can try Berlin after all...
See that? No down load time.
this not only affects these internet appliances, but computer desk and chair manufacturers as well. I have this nice desk and ergonomic chair in my office, but I -never- sit there because I can sit on the La-Z-Boy with my wireless laptop. When my wife started law school, I made sure she had a nice desk of her own to sit at with her laptop and books. Of course she has a wireless card now also and there is competition at the La-Z-Boy.
which is why some real gnu distros like debian 'gnu/linux' will NOT ship this plugin, even if it was free. they'll leave the waffling to red hat, etc, etc.
I sat waiting for J2SE for 2 years. I'm still waiting. BeOS with J2SE would have been THE machine, if you added just a bit more hardware support.
fyi, the age of consent in hawaii is 14. and that is only because they could not pass 13 (they tried).
actually, if the poster is also teenage, is there any real law prohibiting his actions? :)
i'd be more than willing to set you up with an email alias, even possibly a shell account provided you aren't evil :)
try checking out this article linked to from bawug. I do this at home already (FreeBSD, Lucent Orinoco Silver card.
Just have a notice stating that all connections may be monitored for content, and if people don't like that they don't have to use your network. And when you find them using kiddie porn you blacklist their MAC address.