[sarcasm] If people don't care about their privacy and allow this kind of data collection in the name of "quality" and "focusing search results and ads.." "blah blah" we'll all become human centipads. [cc.com]
Move along, nothing to see here. Microsoft has been trying to get their hooks into everybody just like Google and Facebook. If people don't care about their privacy and allow this kind of data collection in the name of "quality" and "focusing search results and ads.." "blah blah" we'll all become human centipads.
One aircraft for multiple missions for the Air Force, Navy and Marines. It didn't go well for the F-4 during the Vietnam war, nor did it for the F-105 all designed with missions that never came. The F-35 is repeating those mistakes.
These kinds of systems are great for bean counters but lousy for workers. We're not digging ditches or plowing fields. Breathing room is expected with white collar positions and beware of companies with intrusive systems in a Bring Your Own Device bargain. Bring your own device gives them flexibility but also the same kinds of tracking that can be used on a desktop. So now your private tablet or smart phone can be used by your employer to track you as well, fuck that. Bring your tablet,bring your own 4G network connection and do your browsing on that device. Don't let your company put it's crap on your private device under any circumstance. You can access e-mail through web portals, they can send text messages and that's all they need to do and all you should be able to need.
Pretty much... Still Oracle does do some things very well. Their product is not bad... its just over priced.
Larry says:
So? Didn't I tell you that I'm Larry Ellison and I can charge whatever I want to charge? I need to fill up my tanker so I can sail my yachts around the ocean you insensitive clod. Now, give me your money!
Buy an island... just don't charge uncompetitive rates for your goods and services.
You can get stinking rich without fucking over your customer. I can cite a lot of very very very rich people that are feared by their COMPETITORS not their customers.
Larry Says:
We're Oracle Corporation and I'm Larry Ellison and I'll charge whatever I want to charge. I've made a ton of cash in my lifetime, I've pissed off airports because I want to fly my jumbo jet in at all hours of the night and yet everybody goes "whaaaahhh" when I overcharge them. Nobody is twisting your arm, besides my island I've had to buy a big yacht and oh they tanker to refuel that yacht in mid-ocean but still I think you should pay as much as I charge. After all it's not like you can go and replace Oracle with DB2,
What would all my pseudo-minions do without their Oracle certifications, they rest on those as their credentials to get jobs not to mention all the pseudo-experts who produce tons of printed garbage you can get on Amazon all about secret tweaks and things you can do to improve Oracle. Pseudo-minions keep pushing on IT organizations to keep buying my shit and pseudo-experts keep writing about crap that doesn't amount to shit but it still drives people back to licensing Oracle. It's a win win situation because it always makes me money and that's the name of the game. Hell I even have a designer line of hardware to go with my overblown database and even though I charge more than comparable hardware it has my logo on it and therefore it's obviously better than anything you can get from HP or Dell, I win again!
4.2.3 is fixing most of that for me at least. Although I have 4 systems remaining to be upgraded, all with "Something Happened" upgrade issues. I wish Microsoft had spent more time on quality rather than worrying about line widths and decorations for a fucking start menu that's already been solved.
Oracle is the king of vendor lock in and if they even have the slightest hint that revenue will diminish from say, license consolidation they'll increase the license renewal and maintenance fees on your remaining systems. If you've allowed your developers to build things in PL/SQL you're doubly screwed so you may as well think about a system replacement rather than just the database in that case. It's a horrible practice but there are alternatives and for most organizations migration will be almost as expensive as just continuing to pay Oracle.
Excuse me, Turbo C? Some of use were on BSD, VAXes and KLs quite awhile before there was Turbo C. Source code was available although you had to hop around a bit for it. There were lots of open implementations, go back and look. UNIX was great but it wasn't the only game in town. ADA is still a joke and like I said before it's great if you want career job security but not popular or really worthy on a resume. Maybe I should put KL-10 assembly language, that's an up and coming language or that great language PL-6 which only ran on one operating system, CP6. All dead systems, all dead languages, just like ADA. Even today, ADA isn't even in the top 10, an also-ran. Strangely C is still there, even after nearly forty years after the K&R standard. It seems if you wanted durability, longevity and a wide adoption you picked the wrong horse.
K&R C worked great, the source was available and it was available on most of the mainstream platforms and took off on PCs. The fact that it wasn't blessed by ANSI didn't make it invalid nor unusable. The fact that ANSI took years to adopt XJ311 was another indication of why ANSI shouldn't have been "the standards body" because AFAIR there wasn't much change really from 1978 K&R and C89, function definition as I recall was a big one and library standardization. The fact that it took 6 years was a blemish on the whole standards process in general, but then 802.11 standards have been worse at times.
ADA 83 didn't come along until 5 years after K&R C and it was all ready for those new-fangled BSD Sockets that came along with BSD 4.2 on the old DARPAnet. That as they say is when things went pear shaped.
C wasn't in flux, there were multiple implementations and the beginnings of standard C came about in the late 70s with an ANSI committee finally getting into the mix in the early 80s. That didn't mean that C wasn't stable, it was fragmented and it could be #Ifdef hell. There were other operating systems other than UNIX that had C compilers, and all of the problems stemmed from mostly customized library and header implementations.
The DoD cooked up Ada and like all military projects it's bloated, costs too much and perpetually needs maintenance. Great if you're looking for job security, lousy if you're trying to deliver a system. I mean the DoD should have just used APL or PL/1 instead.
Don't preach to me about military systems please. The use of Ada doesn't make a system anymore sustainable or better than Perl or Python. Frankly, there's C, C++, Pascal crap even COBOL still survives. Those aren't niche technologies depending on industry. It all depends on the context and use of the system.
Oh and in 1977 there was C and it was a hell of a lot better than Ada especially in the embedded space which is what you're primarily talking about. A bad idea that became worse just like BLISS for all you DEC fans out there.
stipulate "open, widely used and available" standards in the contract. We're talking the government here anyway, it's a three legged bar stool and they'll still pay $1M/each for them even though you can go to a furniture store and get them for $100.
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So you're discounting 99% of the web over Javascript? Humm. It's not all evil, just mostly evil.
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If people don't care about their privacy and allow this kind of data collection in the name of "quality" and "focusing search results and ads.." "blah blah" we'll all become human centipads. [cc.com]
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Move along, nothing to see here. Microsoft has been trying to get their hooks into everybody just like Google and Facebook. If people don't care about their privacy and allow this kind of data collection in the name of "quality" and "focusing search results and ads.." "blah blah" we'll all become human centipads.
None of it, it'll all go into the general fund and within nanoseconds it'll disappear to pay for F-35 parts.
Seems the fine doesn't fit the crime.
One aircraft for multiple missions for the Air Force, Navy and Marines. It didn't go well for the F-4 during the Vietnam war, nor did it for the F-105 all designed with missions that never came. The F-35 is repeating those mistakes.
These kinds of systems are great for bean counters but lousy for workers. We're not digging ditches or plowing fields. Breathing room is expected with white collar positions and beware of companies with intrusive systems in a Bring Your Own Device bargain. Bring your own device gives them flexibility but also the same kinds of tracking that can be used on a desktop. So now your private tablet or smart phone can be used by your employer to track you as well, fuck that. Bring your tablet,bring your own 4G network connection and do your browsing on that device. Don't let your company put it's crap on your private device under any circumstance. You can access e-mail through web portals, they can send text messages and that's all they need to do and all you should be able to need.
Pretty much... Still Oracle does do some things very well. Their product is not bad... its just over priced.
Larry says:
So? Didn't I tell you that I'm Larry Ellison and I can charge whatever I want to charge? I need to fill up my tanker so I can sail my yachts around the ocean you insensitive clod. Now, give me your money!
Buy an island... just don't charge uncompetitive rates for your goods and services.
You can get stinking rich without fucking over your customer. I can cite a lot of very very very rich people that are feared by their COMPETITORS not their customers.
Larry Says:
We're Oracle Corporation and I'm Larry Ellison and I'll charge whatever I want to charge. I've made a ton of cash in my lifetime, I've pissed off airports because I want to fly my jumbo jet in at all hours of the night and yet everybody goes "whaaaahhh" when I overcharge them. Nobody is twisting your arm, besides my island I've had to buy a big yacht and oh they tanker to refuel that yacht in mid-ocean but still I think you should pay as much as I charge. After all it's not like you can go and replace Oracle with DB2,
What would all my pseudo-minions do without their Oracle certifications, they rest on those as their credentials to get jobs not to mention all the pseudo-experts who produce tons of printed garbage you can get on Amazon all about secret tweaks and things you can do to improve Oracle. Pseudo-minions keep pushing on IT organizations to keep buying my shit and pseudo-experts keep writing about crap that doesn't amount to shit but it still drives people back to licensing Oracle. It's a win win situation because it always makes me money and that's the name of the game. Hell I even have a designer line of hardware to go with my overblown database and even though I charge more than comparable hardware it has my logo on it and therefore it's obviously better than anything you can get from HP or Dell, I win again!
4.2.3 is fixing most of that for me at least. Although I have 4 systems remaining to be upgraded, all with "Something Happened" upgrade issues. I wish Microsoft had spent more time on quality rather than worrying about line widths and decorations for a fucking start menu that's already been solved.
yeah you can even save more by putting it on VirtualBox too.
But.. But.. Larry has to buy his Hawaiian island.. He needs money bad.
Oracle is the king of vendor lock in and if they even have the slightest hint that revenue will diminish from say, license consolidation they'll increase the license renewal and maintenance fees on your remaining systems. If you've allowed your developers to build things in PL/SQL you're doubly screwed so you may as well think about a system replacement rather than just the database in that case. It's a horrible practice but there are alternatives and for most organizations migration will be almost as expensive as just continuing to pay Oracle.
Uh you mean MariaDB #FTFY
Classic Shell just works and it still works on Windows 10 even as a release candidate.
Excuse me, Turbo C? Some of use were on BSD, VAXes and KLs quite awhile before there was Turbo C. Source code was available although you had to hop around a bit for it. There were lots of open implementations, go back and look. UNIX was great but it wasn't the only game in town. ADA is still a joke and like I said before it's great if you want career job security but not popular or really worthy on a resume. Maybe I should put KL-10 assembly language, that's an up and coming language or that great language PL-6 which only ran on one operating system, CP6. All dead systems, all dead languages, just like ADA. Even today, ADA isn't even in the top 10, an also-ran. Strangely C is still there, even after nearly forty years after the K&R standard. It seems if you wanted durability, longevity and a wide adoption you picked the wrong horse.
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"Time loops, this is what happens when you use Alternating Current" - Edison
"I'm still dead" - Julia Child
K&R C worked great, the source was available and it was available on most of the mainstream platforms and took off on PCs. The fact that it wasn't blessed by ANSI didn't make it invalid nor unusable. The fact that ANSI took years to adopt XJ311 was another indication of why ANSI shouldn't have been "the standards body" because AFAIR there wasn't much change really from 1978 K&R and C89, function definition as I recall was a big one and library standardization. The fact that it took 6 years was a blemish on the whole standards process in general, but then 802.11 standards have been worse at times.
ADA 83 didn't come along until 5 years after K&R C and it was all ready for those new-fangled BSD Sockets that came along with BSD 4.2 on the old DARPAnet. That as they say is when things went pear shaped.
C wasn't in flux, there were multiple implementations and the beginnings of standard C came about in the late 70s with an ANSI committee finally getting into the mix in the early 80s. That didn't mean that C wasn't stable, it was fragmented and it could be #Ifdef hell. There were other operating systems other than UNIX that had C compilers, and all of the problems stemmed from mostly customized library and header implementations.
The DoD cooked up Ada and like all military projects it's bloated, costs too much and perpetually needs maintenance. Great if you're looking for job security, lousy if you're trying to deliver a system. I mean the DoD should have just used APL or PL/1 instead.
queue up the Thomas Edison/Tesla fanbois out there the current wars have returned.
depreciation.
Don't preach to me about military systems please. The use of Ada doesn't make a system anymore sustainable or better than Perl or Python. Frankly, there's C, C++, Pascal crap even COBOL still survives. Those aren't niche technologies depending on industry. It all depends on the context and use of the system.
Oh and in 1977 there was C and it was a hell of a lot better than Ada especially in the embedded space which is what you're primarily talking about. A bad idea that became worse just like BLISS for all you DEC fans out there.
stipulate "open, widely used and available" standards in the contract. We're talking the government here anyway, it's a three legged bar stool and they'll still pay $1M/each for them even though you can go to a furniture store and get them for $100.