ACDC's new album sucks. Well, at least the song I heard is the same old boring Angus, with the same old boring bass line, and the same old boring drum beat.
In short, go buy the black album, you'll be happier.
"And what would be the determinable time for murder, terrorism, rape, etc?" .
A 300 grain.44 magnum bullet travels at 1500ft/sec. Assuming the 'criminals' are less than a foot away, then the determinable time is ~6.66e-4 seconds.
Secure NASA systems were rooted by a guy who sent 30 gigabytes of data to a location in Taiwan, where it probably was sent to China.
1. The NASA boxen weren't 'secure'. No box is secure while connected to the public internet.
2. Maybe critical, life-or-death, classified, Really Important Stuff (tm) shouldn't be on the internet? Seems to me they should stop trying to pound that square peg into the round hole on this one and (re)build their own damn network where they control all the access points, instead of taking ours.
If the nitwits in the Govt/Military would understand and accept those two points, minimally, there would less instances of '30gb of top secret NASA data was sent to Taiwan', and less reason for anyone to even bother cyberwar-ing for National defense (or offense). This whole 'lets save some $$$ by leveraging the Internet' isn't working out too well for them.
Corporate attacks/espionage however would still be fair game, but that's the risk corporations must assess for themselves. The.gov/.mil shouldn't even have to make that assessment because they shouldn't be here in the first place.
How would you like it if you were a musician, and I started bootlegging every single last piece of merchandise that you every produced and gave it away for free or at just cost? Your t-shirts, your stickers, your cds, everything. Oh, and I stood there recording every live performance in high quality HD and gave it away for free to anyone too lazy or cheap to go to your show?
* any reference to 'you' is accidental, and is meant as 'the musicians', and not anyone personally, or in particular.
There is a huge difference between the 'rock star status' of a musician and the 'rock star status' of a !musician (for the sake of this discussion; nearly anything else).
For example; I don't expect to be rich off of 1 program I wrote. I expect to have to create more, improve, and support my programs/creations for a long time, JUST TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE with comfort. I expect people to review my work, I expect people to improve upon it, I expect people to learn from it and most importantly, I expect that if its crap for whatever reason, I'll not do well.
From the well documented musician p-o-v, I understand (OK, Maybe I'm inferring/ or worse assuming) that they are saying that those creations are somehow different than mine.
It is, but not just in public domain eligibility/ IP rights... It's the perceived value of your creation. The RIAA believes that we consumers should pay $15/cd, $25/recompilation of 'really really really popular albums' like The Wall, or MCIS which are both easily 25 years old. $1/digital song (and that was an Apple victory for that cost -- I'm sure the RIAA wants more). $50 for a HD movie.
Consumers are clearly telling musicians/RIAA that those prices are ridiculous. Add the restrictions (devices, formats, copies, DRM/rootkits) the big 4 are adding to a 'license' to use; sorry charlie... that business model is deaddeaddead because there are easier alternatives.
I feel for those that cannot survive within the present framework (and seem to want the issues to be non-existant like in the 1960's), but I don't have to change wagon wheels or light oil lamps, and I'm not willing to change the issues back to what they were like in the 1860's either.
The power of the dollar will survive the record companies. if the product becomes any more unreasonable, and more consumers (remember, these are the people musicians WANT to support them) will turn away.
Besides, I just can't find much value in today's radio and that means a big RIAA gamble/deal is hurting more musicians than it helps because I am not alone in that thinking.
They have literally billions of dollars of "property". It's not like if Warner Music goes out of business this all become public domain. Someone else will buy the catalog and try to make money through a similar combination of business methods, including lawsuits.
Sure, the RIAA have valuable property in copyright ownership, but if they can't find a valid, reasonable revenue stream accepted by the people, their catalog might as well be made of dirt.
The requests for music are really simple: - Let me pay for it once - do not restrict what devices I can play it on - do not restrict my ability to change formats - provide a fair music quality - do not install rootkits on my PC
Otherwise, if it comes of out of my speakers, its pretty much mine to do with what I want, and aside from a commercial performance, ther isn't anything the RIAA is ever going to be able to do about it.
What's more, the albums are vastly better and more diverse than the charts crap.
Does anyone ever observe that the charts are wrong?
Does anyone ever take that next step to infer that whenever someone with a 'Marketing' focus tells you something is 'good'; it probably isn't?
Credit rating companies had very high regard for CDS, Munis, etc... and look how that turned out. The Top40 is a bunch of made for TV/radio artists (mostly 1 hit wonders).
Once people realize that they do not need to believe everything they hear and see as absolute truth, this little RIAA problem will take care of itself.
Marketers and their pushy tactics are the reason this is still an issue. With the US economy dwindling, hopefully the amount of spamvertising will subside (even if public media contracts exponentially) and these bad business models will wither away as well.
And, there's a precedent for it - how about the add-on charged for every blank cassette recording tape - not a dime of which has gone to a single artist.
Since music/movies are widely available digitally, do you now incur an add-on charge for every SD, flash, or hard-drive purchased?
How would that affect SAN storage, or large direct attached (SCSI arrays) storage? I mean, really.... no one has -ever- copied their itunes or CDrips to the homedir on distributed storage.
I've interviewed for a handful of jobs in the last 15 years. I have 15 years 'real-world' experience in infrastructure sysadmin/SAN. My salary is > $100k -- without a single relevant degree past high school (I do have an AS in science, but from Paramedic training). I'm completely self taught, save for a dozen or so 1 week vendor boondoggles my employer has either requested or accepted.
The job requirements were nearly always listed as "BS degree or equivalent". My experience has landed me the job every time, without question. Degrees can be important if you don't have the time in, but once you get experience no one really cares.
A while back, MS and Novell, and I suppose other vendors, had those silly cert tests (some still do!?!), which has soured hiring managers apparently. We referred to the noobs ^H^H^H^H^Hcandidates as "paper CNE's and paper MCSE's because all they proved was they could do was pass a test.
The 'real world' does not use a book that you didn't document yourself.
I'm an early Gen-Xer. I've been around computers and the internet for many years.
My first source for material, answers, research, and entertainment is the internet. If an original copy is available online I'll buy it. If it's not available online I'll download it. I generally pass on 'used' anything. I absolutely hate having to actually 'go to the store'.
I don't think that the music, movie, newsprint, magazine, and publishing industries are quite ready for the Internet to be the first place people like me go. We don't see their billboards, we don't get drawn in by the shiny displays, we buzz past their commercials on our DVR's. We learn online, and we know how to research. Marketing is wasted on us.
Because of people like me, the 2ndary businesses like used bookstores, music stores, video stores are dead/dying. I won't be sad to see them go.
but no one can suggest an alternative that actually makes sense.
They missed the boat. The Free or Free-er or Free-est methods available to a majority will ensure that the big 4 probably do not have a viable business model with hard-copy media. Considering the options, and how sour many people are with their music collections that cost them $15/8-track in the 60's, $15/album in the 70's, $15/cassette in the 80's, $15/CD in the 90's, they barely have a chance at continuing with digital music.
All the hardware and DRM in the world cannot compete with free, regardless of morals.
Noone NEEDS the middleman role that the big 4 play.
Or are we really advocating that everyone should just be an indie act?
When is the last time you had the wheels on your stagecoach changed? Why not?
Same reason will apply to RIAA/Big 4. We don't need them.
If the government bails out the music industry I'll be pissed.
Pissed doesn't even begin to describe how bad things will be in America if the music industry was 'bailed out'.
More than 2/3 of voters in many polls are not in favor of helping out part of the transportation infrastructure. Here's and example of common trends in results.
That's transportation, plus related and support business.
The music industry is Entertainment. there is no way anyone can rationalize to me why I 'NEED' the entertainment industry.
Cars, even shitty American ones, with the 3+ million workforce potential loss, I can at least understand. I'm not in favor of bailing them out though.
Entertainment? It was the first thing stricken from my budget when Wall street got caught with their pants around their ankles in Sep08.
Let's see how loyal Metallica is to their record company when the execs come down to the studio to say "We want a cut on those tour booklets and t-shirts you're selling, and say, what about the money you just got from that concert, we want some of that too!"
If Lars and James do freak out over this "revenue stream", I sure hope the campchaos guys get in on the act.
None. I learned my lesson in the 1980s to not buy albums, but instead wait for the "greatest hits" compilation. That way the whole CD is filled with good songs, and you get your money's worth.
The cost of royalties for these devices will be included in the price of the device from the vendor. I highly doubt there is a large enough percentage that will be passed onto consumers. This is about as worrisome as a cloudy day on the reality scale.
On the stupidity scale, stating "separate checks" before you start your relationship with a vendor who bought one of these devices should negate the need for trickle down costs, because the patent was not followed. We'll probably never know the difference, however. There is a small chance the royalties/payment will not even change the POS landscape, aside from not allowing NCR (and other POS device manufacturers) to duplicate the process in their POS devices.
Vendors have a choice to say "screw you", and simply not purchase the process. A calculator seems to fill niche more than adequately.
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"I mean, drug companies don't tend to release actively harmful substances with no medicinal value."
OMG, thanks you, I nearly pissed myself from laughter at that.
Don't forget the 'call your doctor immediately if you have an erection that lasts more than 4 hours'.
I hope the doctor is hawt.
ACDC's new album sucks. Well, at least the song I heard is the same old boring Angus, with the same old boring bass line, and the same old boring drum beat.
In short, go buy the black album, you'll be happier.
If I'm paying for them up front as a taxpayer, I expect the products to be given to me for free.
"And what would be the determinable time for murder, terrorism, rape, etc?"
.
A 300 grain .44 magnum bullet travels at 1500ft/sec. Assuming the 'criminals' are less than a foot away, then the determinable time is ~6.66e-4 seconds.
Read the OP. He (they) asked a question that was at in part very similar to the wordpad bug.
Mods are, for the most part, fucking stupid when it comes to commonsense.
Yeah, it's another I hate mods troll -1 post. IDC, won't bother me to see them burn up mod points on my drivel.
Mods. Please. Look it up.
This must be mod-fucktard day.
but accept consumers to have to listen to whines from the industry and take it from behind on DRM and stuff for a little while yet.
Listen to? Sure.
DRM? Not if I don't buy it.
Yay. Let's bomb Beijing back to the stone age.
Yes. But not for any of those ridonkulous reasons mentioned.
Secure NASA systems were rooted by a guy who sent 30 gigabytes of data to a location in Taiwan, where it probably was sent to China.
1. The NASA boxen weren't 'secure'. No box is secure while connected to the public internet.
2. Maybe critical, life-or-death, classified, Really Important Stuff (tm) shouldn't be on the internet? Seems to me they should stop trying to pound that square peg into the round hole on this one and (re)build their own damn network where they control all the access points, instead of taking ours.
If the nitwits in the Govt/Military would understand and accept those two points, minimally, there would less instances of '30gb of top secret NASA data was sent to Taiwan', and less reason for anyone to even bother cyberwar-ing for National defense (or offense). This whole 'lets save some $$$ by leveraging the Internet' isn't working out too well for them.
Corporate attacks/espionage however would still be fair game, but that's the risk corporations must assess for themselves. The .gov/.mil shouldn't even have to make that assessment because they shouldn't be here in the first place.
I agree. My point is that it's rather stupid to have add-ons in some places, and not all. There shouldn't be add-ons in the first place.
How would you like it if you were a musician, and I started bootlegging every single last piece of merchandise that you every produced and gave it away for free or at just cost? Your t-shirts, your stickers, your cds, everything. Oh, and I stood there recording every live performance in high quality HD and gave it away for free to anyone too lazy or cheap to go to your show?
* any reference to 'you' is accidental, and is meant as 'the musicians', and not anyone personally, or in particular.
There is a huge difference between the 'rock star status' of a musician and the 'rock star status' of a !musician (for the sake of this discussion; nearly anything else).
For example; I don't expect to be rich off of 1 program I wrote. I expect to have to create more, improve, and support my programs/creations for a long time, JUST TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE with comfort. I expect people to review my work, I expect people to improve upon it, I expect people to learn from it and most importantly, I expect that if its crap for whatever reason, I'll not do well.
From the well documented musician p-o-v, I understand (OK, Maybe I'm inferring/ or worse assuming) that they are saying that those creations are somehow different than mine.
It is, but not just in public domain eligibility/ IP rights... It's the perceived value of your creation. The RIAA believes that we consumers should pay $15/cd, $25/recompilation of 'really really really popular albums' like The Wall, or MCIS which are both easily 25 years old. $1/digital song (and that was an Apple victory for that cost -- I'm sure the RIAA wants more). $50 for a HD movie.
Consumers are clearly telling musicians/RIAA that those prices are ridiculous. Add the restrictions (devices, formats, copies, DRM/rootkits) the big 4 are adding to a 'license' to use; sorry charlie... that business model is deaddeaddead because there are easier alternatives.
I feel for those that cannot survive within the present framework (and seem to want the issues to be non-existant like in the 1960's), but I don't have to change wagon wheels or light oil lamps, and I'm not willing to change the issues back to what they were like in the 1860's either.
The power of the dollar will survive the record companies. if the product becomes any more unreasonable, and more consumers (remember, these are the people musicians WANT to support them) will turn away.
Besides, I just can't find much value in today's radio and that means a big RIAA gamble/deal is hurting more musicians than it helps because I am not alone in that thinking.
Whats the difference, until you put something on it.
CD-RW's won't play in my truck (a 2002 Ford Expedition with factory 6-disc changer -- I don't know the actual brand). CD-R's do.
They have literally billions of dollars of "property". It's not like if Warner Music goes out of business this all become public domain. Someone else will buy the catalog and try to make money through a similar combination of business methods, including lawsuits.
Sure, the RIAA have valuable property in copyright ownership, but if they can't find a valid, reasonable revenue stream accepted by the people, their catalog might as well be made of dirt.
The requests for music are really simple:
- Let me pay for it once
- do not restrict what devices I can play it on
- do not restrict my ability to change formats
- provide a fair music quality
- do not install rootkits on my PC
Otherwise, if it comes of out of my speakers, its pretty much mine to do with what I want, and aside from a commercial performance, ther isn't anything the RIAA is ever going to be able to do about it.
What is the point of paying the RIAA to be sued by a non-RIAA label?
So you will pay them all?!?
Please send your payment of $25000.00 USD annually to sunjedi records.
I can't wait to send THAT request to every Uni who actually agrees to this plan. I'll be RICH!
What's more, the albums are vastly better and more diverse than the charts crap.
Does anyone ever observe that the charts are wrong?
Does anyone ever take that next step to infer that whenever someone with a 'Marketing' focus tells you something is 'good'; it probably isn't?
Credit rating companies had very high regard for CDS, Munis, etc... and look how that turned out. The Top40 is a bunch of made for TV/radio artists (mostly 1 hit wonders).
Once people realize that they do not need to believe everything they hear and see as absolute truth, this little RIAA problem will take care of itself.
Marketers and their pushy tactics are the reason this is still an issue. With the US economy dwindling, hopefully the amount of spamvertising will subside (even if public media contracts exponentially) and these bad business models will wither away as well.
I can dream, can't I?
What happens when pay this 'tax', and then get sued by a non-RIAA record label? [/theoretically]
Seems to me the idea is so flawed from the get-go, it's not worth discussing.
And, there's a precedent for it - how about the add-on charged for every blank cassette recording tape - not a dime of which has gone to a single artist.
Since music/movies are widely available digitally, do you now incur an add-on charge for every SD, flash, or hard-drive purchased?
How would that affect SAN storage, or large direct attached (SCSI arrays) storage? I mean, really.... no one has -ever- copied their itunes or CDrips to the homedir on distributed storage.
I've interviewed for a handful of jobs in the last 15 years. I have 15 years 'real-world' experience in infrastructure sysadmin/SAN. My salary is > $100k -- without a single relevant degree past high school (I do have an AS in science, but from Paramedic training).
I'm completely self taught, save for a dozen or so 1 week vendor boondoggles my employer has either requested or accepted.
The job requirements were nearly always listed as "BS degree or equivalent". My experience has landed me the job every time, without question. Degrees can be important if you don't have the time in, but once you get experience no one really cares.
A while back, MS and Novell, and I suppose other vendors, had those silly cert tests (some still do!?!), which has soured hiring managers apparently. We referred to the noobs ^H^H^H^H^Hcandidates as "paper CNE's and paper MCSE's because all they proved was they could do was pass a test.
The 'real world' does not use a book that you didn't document yourself.
I'm an early Gen-Xer. I've been around computers and the internet for many years.
My first source for material, answers, research, and entertainment is the internet. If an original copy is available online I'll buy it. If it's not available online I'll download it. I generally pass on 'used' anything. I absolutely hate having to actually 'go to the store'.
I don't think that the music, movie, newsprint, magazine, and publishing industries are quite ready for the Internet to be the first place people like me go. We don't see their billboards, we don't get drawn in by the shiny displays, we buzz past their commercials on our DVR's. We learn online, and we know how to research. Marketing is wasted on us.
Because of people like me, the 2ndary businesses like used bookstores, music stores, video stores are dead/dying. I won't be sad to see them go.
but no one can suggest an alternative that actually makes sense.
They missed the boat. The Free or Free-er or Free-est methods available to a majority will ensure that the big 4 probably do not have a viable business model with hard-copy media. Considering the options, and how sour many people are with their music collections that cost them $15/8-track in the 60's, $15/album in the 70's, $15/cassette in the 80's, $15/CD in the 90's, they barely have a chance at continuing with digital music.
All the hardware and DRM in the world cannot compete with free, regardless of morals.
Noone NEEDS the middleman role that the big 4 play.
Or are we really advocating that everyone should just be an indie act?
When is the last time you had the wheels on your stagecoach changed? Why not?
Same reason will apply to RIAA/Big 4. We don't need them.
If the government bails out the music industry I'll be pissed.
Pissed doesn't even begin to describe how bad things will be in America if the music industry was 'bailed out'.
More than 2/3 of voters in many polls are not in favor of helping out part of the transportation infrastructure. Here's and example of common trends in results.
That's transportation, plus related and support business.
The music industry is Entertainment. there is no way anyone can rationalize to me why I 'NEED' the entertainment industry.
Cars, even shitty American ones, with the 3+ million workforce potential loss, I can at least understand. I'm not in favor of bailing them out though.
Entertainment? It was the first thing stricken from my budget when Wall street got caught with their pants around their ankles in Sep08.
Let's see how loyal Metallica is to their record company when the execs come down to the studio to say "We want a cut on those tour booklets and t-shirts you're selling, and say, what about the money you just got from that concert, we want some of that too!"
If Lars and James do freak out over this "revenue stream", I sure hope the campchaos guys get in on the act.
Heh. BEEEEER GOOOOOD!!!!!.
None. I learned my lesson in the 1980s to not buy albums, but instead wait for the "greatest hits" compilation. That way the whole CD is filled with good songs, and you get your money's worth.
+2, right-on-the-money!
The cost of royalties for these devices will be included in the price of the device from the vendor. I highly doubt there is a large enough percentage that will be passed onto consumers. This is about as worrisome as a cloudy day on the reality scale.
On the stupidity scale, stating "separate checks" before you start your relationship with a vendor who bought one of these devices should negate the need for trickle down costs, because the patent was not followed. We'll probably never know the difference, however. There is a small chance the royalties/payment will not even change the POS landscape, aside from not allowing NCR (and other POS device manufacturers) to duplicate the process in their POS devices.
Vendors have a choice to say "screw you", and simply not purchase the process. A calculator seems to fill niche more than adequately.
How long before we see a patent on "a system of placing letters and numbers in sequential order in order to convey something meaningful"?
Sadly, there's no prior art for this on the internet...
Yes. There is. /. is a great example.