I guess i didnt explain my reasons for believing things are changing. First of all I am not talking at all about this f00 jwz, I'm talking about Networks. Huge networks run by internet users for internet users... no companies. The Napsters and Gnutellas of the world are going to bring this to us. However I'm skeptical of any corporate run networks like Napster. This is because users want their freedoms and corporations are just not going to cut it in this regard. There will be a time when companies will work with/run user networks but the time is still a year or 2 down the road. So if Napster can survive till then, good for them. Anyhow, I liked the article simply because hackers are starting to come out of the cracks in the sidewalk and see the sun for the first time. hehe Hack the Planet
cuz it romantizes the whole hacker thing as a movement that is going to sweep all industries and fundementally change the way people approach business. I belive this article is right on. Its sad to see most people here didnt' like it *sigh* which is why i am staying away from Linux, no visionaries... Someone prove me wrong
Yes interesting observation, one made by our forefathers in the 18th century, and precisely the reason for the legislative architecture today... Ever wonder why we have a Senate and a House? Well the Senate is supposed to be a more educated and exclusive bunch, who tend to be more rational and whos purpose is to balance out the House which is made up of ordinary citizens who through ignorance could make mass irrantional descisions. Yes a direct vote is scary and thats why any internet based political system should have some equivalent of a Senate to keep things from going crazy.
Basically they are further legitimizing the sytem by creating this prior-art database. Why even bother with prior-art, why not just get rid of the patent system all together and allow people to manage their own intellectual assets. Basically, if you don't want someone to know something don't announce it till your ready. And if someone finds out your 'secrets' and can create something better than what you did and faster, yes then maybe it will seem unfair, but thats competition my friend. And you will be allowed to do the same to others. Now for those leechers out there, im sure there will be a way to publically humiliate them. Not only that, but if you have spent copious amount of time understanding a concept or system you are better suited than any who may have copied you to further improve upon it. A deep understanding of the underlying concepts of a system can not be copied, that takes a lot of reading and due dilligence. No one can take that away from you so don't worry about it.
The government is going to go open-source because open souce espouses the same ideals as our democratic system, mainly the ideal of equal opportunity to all. Open source provides that for those without the funds to buy software owned by money-grubbing corporations. I just say this in jest, as I am all for money-grubbing corporations =) In fact this is why I am not for open-source because to me it is the equivalent of wanting to work for the government.. bleh how boring. The real money is being made and will continue to be made by corporations or in the future the replacement of the corporation, the clan. Whats a clan you say? A clan is my defenition for a new form of legal entity that is half corporation and half a group of friends.
I have been practicing law for 20 years and we represent the Society of Lambasted Script Kiddies. On their behalf I am filing a patent meant to deter the negative use of the term "script kiddie". Every time i hear you say, something like "oh it must be the script kiddies" or "that guy is stupid he must be a script kiddie" you must pay me royalties, or else its off to the courts with you... And if you somehow get around my patent, i will sue you for defamation of character. Don't let me catch you say "script kiddies suck!"
I am actually making my patent broad and far reaching so i can sue for all elitist behavior. Yes that covers anti-jockism and anti-homeyism. Poor homies and jocks, what did they ever do to you. Homies just rap, is that so wrong. And Dennis Kliebold if you can hear me in hell, I'm suing your daddy! Your going down motherf*$%#@
Heheh word to that. And why are we called Trolls anyway... we should be called Angels. I hereby declare us Angels. =))
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I say we all should start a class action suite against the RIAA!!!! If anyone decides to do this, gimme credit for having thought of it =)
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First allow me to say that like bottled water, we pay for music because of the costs of producing it and making it available to us. But now we have the internet and you still continue to charge me the same prices for CDS knowing full well that on the internet the cost of distribution is now $0.00 as is the cost of marketing. Why is it then that I do not see the CDs prices dropping by this amount. This is unfair, you are ripping me the consumer off. For every CD I own you own me at least one or 2 CDs, so we take back what is ours.. Napster aids us in doing so, they do not charge us for getting our money back from thieves like you.
As some of you have pointed out, one of the main reasons for having patents was for encouraging the release of new technology to the public so that the public can build on it and we could continue to innovate. The government feared that if we didnt have patents that we would encourage businesses to keep everything they do secret making innovation suffer as a result. WELL guess what, now that we have the internet even if we create a patent-free system and busineses become more secretive , innovation will still thrive because the internet allows us to communicate our ideas broadly and quickly. It only takes one other person to come up with the same idea before it can theoretically spead to hundreds of thousands of people. This In the past we couldn't share ideas so easily, so yes patents were necessary. But today this problem is solved because of the internet. Yes a patent-free system will encourage business secrecy (the jury is still out on whether this is bad or not) but at least I have shown that innovation will not suffer. So legislators out there realize this and create a patent free system NOW!
-= Griffis =-
because of the internet
Now if we rid ourselves of patents. The only way to protect ourselves against copiers is to keep secrets. This fear of secrecy is exactly
No i think your wrong, yes markets are becoming more perfect via the internet, but will never become 100% perfect, as long as we are humans there will always be friction. Each business may find that profits dwindle, but the sheer number of consumers that most busineses can have, small businesses in particular, goes up by several billion people making up for the difference. Also technology should drive costs down. The only costs to worry about then are the costs of human labor. We won't have perfect market unless we can get rid of this factor.. the human factor... hmmm is it possible to upload our conciousnesses to protons yet.. nah i dont think so.
This is great. When I saw this Bill introduced, it restored my faith in the American Congress. At least partially so =/ But its a big step. First patents, then copyright, the walls must crumble. We should start thinking though what happens when patents and copyright go away. We have to be careful or it may lead to paranoia or extreme-secrecy on the part of companies who feel that they are not protected by the government. And its always a scary thing when a company refuses to divulge information to the public....
Also for those interested, I have created a website devoted to promoting patent free peer-to-peer network ideas to the public. If you would like to visit, please come to http://www.rounin.com
Steve jobs is probably doing this less for idealogical reasons than for protecting his (Pixar's) digital works from "piracy"
Now.. as to why he doesnt use that creative talent of his to come up with a new business model for doing business in a IP-less world beats me.. maybe he just to old or too spoiled to want to use them skills of his... you old fogee Steve... Steve if you think eschewing corporate values brought about your downfall and are now trying to make up for that "mistake" then your in for a big surprise... the world has suddenly changed, and your attitudes of the past are now the ones making headway. Your just setting yourself up for another losing battle Steve. Ho ho ho XD
Nooooaah... its your moral duty to increase your bust. All together now!~! Weeeeeeeee must, we must, we must increase our bust! I cant hear you!! Louder! Come on now!! Weeeeeeeeee must, we must, we must increase our bust!! All right come again!! We must, we must, we must increase our bust!!! Thats the spirit!! We must, we must, we must increase our bust.. we must we must.....
*thinking* Found a hiding spot... damn it am i gonna live... those little rat fuckers are chasing me. They're not gonna get to me like they did to that 3 year old kid the other day. Was in the news.. ate her entire body, just left the bones lying in the street. The police arent doing enough to hunt these guys down.. can't blame them, they have to worry about a dozen of these latest mutants every month. Its getting worse, and worse.. I knew I shouldn't have gone out past the curfew, but my girlfriend wanted me over. The price I pay for a little tail. *no pun intended* OH dam, i just saw one go by... oh shit oh shit...
In the above dramatization JoeBlow got eaten up by the one of the many mutant animaloidz running around the cities during the night. All of this because we fucked with genetics and allowed some mad scientists to go and create things irresponsibly as well as by hackers releasing these genetic algorithms to the net... getting them into the hands of some very sick people. The net is good, let all information be free they said... yea if only they knew a baby is eaten once a week by these pestilant demonic creatures...
I noticed you used the words "legal buzzwords" for lack of a better word. Well guess what, there is one, its called "legalese" Nice one to add to your vocab. K that was all, my random comment for the day. }8]
Yes i agree wholeheartedly, in fact he has his/. crackers sittin in the backroom breakin into puter readin my docs and listening in on conversations relating to these topics which mysteriously seem to pop up in his articles a few days later. >_
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Ahh yes but it will create a demand for DeckJockeys to go on Matrix runs for mucho dinero.
Don't be down, turn that frown upside down hohoho
I guess i didnt explain my reasons for believing things are changing. First of all I am not talking at all about this f00 jwz, I'm talking about Networks. Huge networks run by internet users for internet users... no companies. The Napsters and Gnutellas of the world are going to bring this to us. However I'm skeptical of any corporate run networks like Napster. This is because users want their freedoms and corporations are just not going to cut it in this regard. There will be a time when companies will work with/run user networks but the time is still a year or 2 down the road. So if Napster can survive till then, good for them. Anyhow, I liked the article simply because hackers are starting to come out of the cracks in the sidewalk and see the sun for the first time. hehe Hack the Planet
hahahahhahh hehehehehh waheheeheeheheheheh No im not kidding, see here http://www.rounin.com/corporations.asp
cuz it romantizes the whole hacker thing as a movement that is going to sweep all industries and fundementally change the way people approach business. I belive this article is right on. Its sad to see most people here didnt' like it *sigh* which is why i am staying away from Linux, no visionaries... Someone prove me wrong
Yayy!! Long live the empire.
Ughhh werd. And Britney for President!!!
Yes interesting observation, one made by our forefathers in the 18th century, and precisely the reason for the legislative architecture today... Ever wonder why we have a Senate and a House? Well the Senate is supposed to be a more educated and exclusive bunch, who tend to be more rational and whos purpose is to balance out the House which is made up of ordinary citizens who through ignorance could make mass irrantional descisions. Yes a direct vote is scary and thats why any internet based political system should have some equivalent of a Senate to keep things from going crazy.
Basically they are further legitimizing the sytem by creating this prior-art database. Why even bother with prior-art, why not just get rid of the patent system all together and allow people to manage their own intellectual assets. Basically, if you don't want someone to know something don't announce it till your ready. And if someone finds out your 'secrets' and can create something better than what you did and faster, yes then maybe it will seem unfair, but thats competition my friend. And you will be allowed to do the same to others. Now for those leechers out there, im sure there will be a way to publically humiliate them. Not only that, but if you have spent copious amount of time understanding a concept or system you are better suited than any who may have copied you to further improve upon it. A deep understanding of the underlying concepts of a system can not be copied, that takes a lot of reading and due dilligence. No one can take that away from you so don't worry about it.
Long live the script kiddies. You can take the script kiddie out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto outta the script kiddie.
Try http://www.rounin.com
-= Griffis =-
I am actually making my patent broad and far reaching so i can sue for all elitist behavior. Yes that covers anti-jockism and anti-homeyism. Poor homies and jocks, what did they ever do to you. Homies just rap, is that so wrong. And Dennis Kliebold if you can hear me in hell, I'm suing your daddy! Your going down motherf*$%#@
Heheh word to that. And why are we called Trolls anyway... we should be called Angels. I hereby declare us Angels. =))
-= Griffis =-
-= Griffis =- http://www.rounin.com
-= Griffis =- because of the internet Now if we rid ourselves of patents. The only way to protect ourselves against copiers is to keep secrets. This fear of secrecy is exactly
-= Griffis =-
Also for those interested, I have created a website devoted to promoting patent free peer-to-peer network ideas to the public. If you would like to visit, please come to http://www.rounin.com
Now.. as to why he doesnt use that creative talent of his to come up with a new business model for doing business in a IP-less world beats me.. maybe he just to old or too spoiled to want to use them skills of his... you old fogee Steve... Steve if you think eschewing corporate values brought about your downfall and are now trying to make up for that "mistake" then your in for a big surprise... the world has suddenly changed, and your attitudes of the past are now the ones making headway. Your just setting yourself up for another losing battle Steve. Ho ho ho XD
-= Griffis =-
Nooooaah... its your moral duty to increase your bust. All together now!~! Weeeeeeeee must, we must, we must increase our bust! I cant hear you!! Louder! Come on now!! Weeeeeeeeee must, we must, we must increase our bust!! All right come again!! We must, we must, we must increase our bust!!! Thats the spirit!! We must, we must, we must increase our bust.. we must we must .....
-= Griffis =-
-= Griffis =-
Yes i agree wholeheartedly, in fact he has his /. crackers sittin in the backroom breakin into puter readin my docs and listening in on conversations relating to these topics which mysteriously seem to pop up in his articles a few days later. >_
Griffis