When you "remind" people about how the Welfare State created chavs do you also remind them that we have never had an underclass at any point in history before the 1940s?
But, really, that's just a matter of scale. Aren't smaller, less apparent-to-the-naked-eye adaptations (e.g. selected & inherited variations in the genome, membrane permeability, cell size, etc) just as much evidence of evolution as the development of, say, more efficient locomotive structures?
I beg to differ on that point. You yourself say selected & inherited variations. That is not evolution, it is adaptation.
Since we've only been looking for a short time - and the tens of thousands of generations in the paper I linked is only a short time in the scale of things - we're not going to see that unless we're extremely lucky. Keep looking, and the chance we will go up (assuming there is something to see;-)
This was part of my point in my original post. Back to the trees for a moment, but there have been perhaps 6 or 7 generations of those trees by now. I suspect that we will never see those barbs disapeer, because of the number of generations it would require. And if we do, nobody will know how much of an idiot I was because of the time gap;)
depends on what you want to see as evidence
I would see the bacteria creating new information as strong evidence. That study does not show that. At least, not to my limited microbiological knowledge.
Maybe I should stop asking for evidence, I get a headache every time I read one of those biological studies:\
We see bacteria do it all the time, in very clear repeatable ways.
You know, Quote tags are there for a reason.
I am assuming you are talking about my last statement.
Which bacteria? Sources! Examples! Citations! Why didn't I cite?
we have not yet observed
There is nothing to cite, because it hasn't happened yet.
Until you link to some creditable sources (that does NOT mean NYT,/., or any other news site, but a scientific journal!)
I cannot believe it.
First off, trees have lives on par with if not longer than humans. It has been pointed out time and again in the comments on this story that they repopulate slowly. Thus slowing down the rate of evolution. Simple theory.
In all technicality, we should base our timelines for projected evolution dates on generations, not years.
Secondly, this is an adaptation, not evolution. This tree losing it's barbs would be an adaptation. Maybe the barbs are still there to keep people from climbing the trees. Maybe a few moa still exist. Maybe not enough generations have gone by for the tree to remove it's barbs. Maybe it never will.
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A REALLY HUGE ONE
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I am not yet taken by the theory of evolution on the grounds that we have not yet observed one species change into another.
Yeah yeah, this means you can call me a creationist bugger now.
I have a friend who has his whole house set up on Ubuntu. He is a hardware/gaming enthusiast, but wouldn't last a day trying to use Gentoo/Arch. The CLI scares the hell out of him. His family members are not enthusiasts either, just your average YouTube, Email, Facebook, MySpace, Twitter people.
Because one thing cannot be everything to everyone, or it will be nothing to anyone.
Drupal or other CMS systems come within striking distance by allowing you to have wikis, forums, blogs, mailing lists, and other communication forms all in one place.
This is a good solution. Another thing would be to check into CVS and DVCS systems to help clean up after accidental modifications (ie the old copy is still there).
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When you "remind" people about how the Welfare State created chavs do you also remind them that we have never had an underclass at any point in history before the 1940s?
Now that, sir, is complete and utter bullshit.
Ever heard of feudalism? No? Read about it!
But, really, that's just a matter of scale. Aren't smaller, less apparent-to-the-naked-eye adaptations (e.g. selected & inherited variations in the genome, membrane permeability, cell size, etc) just as much evidence of evolution as the development of, say, more efficient locomotive structures?
I beg to differ on that point. You yourself say selected & inherited variations. That is not evolution, it is adaptation.
Since we've only been looking for a short time - and the tens of thousands of generations in the paper I linked is only a short time in the scale of things - we're not going to see that unless we're extremely lucky. Keep looking, and the chance we will go up (assuming there is something to see ;-)
This was part of my point in my original post. Back to the trees for a moment, but there have been perhaps 6 or 7 generations of those trees by now. I suspect that we will never see those barbs disapeer, because of the number of generations it would require. And if we do, nobody will know how much of an idiot I was because of the time gap ;)
depends on what you want to see as evidence
I would see the bacteria creating new information as strong evidence. That study does not show that. At least, not to my limited microbiological knowledge. Maybe I should stop asking for evidence, I get a headache every time I read one of those biological studies :\
We see bacteria do it all the time, in very clear repeatable ways.
You know, Quote tags are there for a reason. I am assuming you are talking about my last statement. Which bacteria? Sources! Examples! Citations! Why didn't I cite?
we have not yet observed
There is nothing to cite, because it hasn't happened yet. Until you link to some creditable sources (that does NOT mean NYT, /., or any other news site, but a scientific journal!)
I cannot believe it.
3.11 was the first usable version of Windows IMO
You mean there is a usable version of Windows?
Looks like I came late to the party.
First off, trees have lives on par with if not longer than humans. It has been pointed out time and again in the comments on this story that they repopulate slowly. Thus slowing down the rate of evolution. Simple theory.
In all technicality, we should base our timelines for projected evolution dates on generations, not years.
Secondly, this is an adaptation, not evolution. This tree losing it's barbs would be an adaptation. Maybe the barbs are still there to keep people from climbing the trees. Maybe a few moa still exist. Maybe not enough generations have gone by for the tree to remove it's barbs. Maybe it never will.
DISCLAIMER:
THIS IS A BIG ASS DISCLAIMER
A REALLY HUGE ONE
AS IN YO' MOMMA HUGE
I am not yet taken by the theory of evolution on the grounds that we have not yet observed one species change into another. Yeah yeah, this means you can call me a creationist bugger now.
Or maybe I'm just being a smartass? It's so hard to tell with developers these days ...
You mean there's a difference?
[disclaimer]I am a developer[/disclaimer]
That is, games that are designed to be art are rarely fun.
I don't buy games because they're art. I buy them because they are fun. Art games are rarely fun, and fun games are rarely art.
Clearly the title was trying to illustrate the PHP interpreter's ability to solve the pythagorean theorem [mit.edu].
I don't need PHP for that! Besides, the pythagorean theorem doesn't have X, just a, b, and c.
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
New PHP Interpreter Finds XSS, Injection Holes
Fixed it for you.
There's a catch: taxes.
You can however, file a patent for the contents of your harddrive, because no one else has ever had the same configuration of 0s and 1s.
I like your thinking! Where's your resume? An intelligent person such as you /must/ have one...
Not off-topic.
Comparing the Size, Speed , and Dependability of Programming Languages
only used on the desktop by enthusiasts.
I have a friend who has his whole house set up on Ubuntu. He is a hardware/gaming enthusiast, but wouldn't last a day trying to use Gentoo/Arch. The CLI scares the hell out of him. His family members are not enthusiasts either, just your average YouTube, Email, Facebook, MySpace, Twitter people.
But it's slower. Much slower IME. If I'm not writing performance-intensive programs then I might use Obj-C, but not otherwise.
node_3 said it better than I could.
Disclaimer: I am running Windows right now.
Disclaimer 2: I own a Mac.
Disclaimer 3: Registered linux user.
BTW your sig is awesome node_3
Windows sucks.
No. When did I mention Apple, OSX, or Final Cut? You are putting words in my mouth friend.
Did anyone RTFS??
Ask the crew what software they want to use for editing
(not to include editing)
Why buy the Adobe suite? If you're going to use Windows for any serious video editing (which TFS is NOT), you may as well shoot yourself now.
RTFA!!
(not to include editing)
I am a huge advocate of Linux and Open Source and I want to use it if possible.
Go for it!
I have 3 words for you: "Offsite Offline Backups" (Is that really 3 words or is it 5?)
Because one thing cannot be everything to everyone, or it will be nothing to anyone.
Drupal or other CMS systems come within striking distance by allowing you to have wikis, forums, blogs, mailing lists, and other communication forms all in one place.
http://www.opensearch.org/Community/OpenSearch_search_engine_directories
Hey, Windows Live Search isn't on that list either. Neither is Yahoo! Search. or Ask.com
This is a good solution. Another thing would be to check into CVS and DVCS systems to help clean up after accidental modifications (ie the old copy is still there).