As for the world being a free market of governance, I have to wonder; what's with your Iraq war and preventing countries from having nuclear weapons? That doesn't sound very, erm, "free market" to me. It would be like Burger King thugs rushing into McDonald's to destroy the fryer.
Not making a judgment here, but noting your analogy is wrong. Taxation would be more like being forced food upon you (without you getting to choose what kind) and then being demanded you pay for it.
1) this isn't my first slashdot account, and I've been reading slashdot much longer than I've ever had an account. 2) The vast majority of people on slashdot have high userids for rather obvious reasons! 3) You're dick-waving about user ids? That's pretty lame.
Nobody agreed to Obama's changes simply by voting for him; perhaps they hoped that he would not get a lot of his platform passed past Congress.
You are right that just by voting against Obama that they didn't necessarily disagree with him. However, that also means that people that voted for him didn't necessarily agree to his plans, either. If you're going to argue that the he's even more popular due to that fact you have to recognize that the same simply holds true for Obama. Perhaps it all balances out. Perhaps not. I know a lot of people that really do not lean left at all, especially libertarian types, that swallowed their pride and voted Obama simply because they thought McCain would be worse, particularly for the war.
Imagine a hypothetical nightmare scenario with two tyrants from history running against each other. I'll let you pick them. If someone voted for one of them because they thought less deaths would ultimately occur going with them, it does not mean they agree to whatever horrible policies that tyrant does in fact believe in, or even must accept.
A lot of people mostly wanted an end to the war and voted accordingly, as well. That does not mean they consent AT ALL to what the president promises.
Ah, how can you tell what those that voted for Obama wanted, either? You can't pick and choose. Maybe people voted for him because they thought he was the "lesser of two great evils".
Ah, but most people also like programs which ultimately give them "free" things.
Science-wise that's usually the case because the right-wing typically is associated with religion, but that's not necessarily the case and nothing is stopping that from changing in the future. The far-far-far-left really perverts some science too, like the postmodernists...
Wow, not only do you not seem to understand evolution, but you thought he was saying something he wasn't at all, and I have no clue whatsoever you thought he said.l
To say evolution "intends" something IS TO COMPLETELY AND ABSOLUTELY MISS THE POINT OF EVOLUTION.
Anonymous Coward, I too join you in shedding tears over this ignorance of evolution.
Evolution doesn't really have "stages" and wouldn't be put to a "halt" by preventing a disease from killing us; it just means we don't make a certain type of change. Seriously, read up on evolution! You should really know better.
Don't forget that the vast majority of time the scenery consists of empty space or an out-space background. Maybe there are asteroids around or in the background. Maybe a planet is nearby. But with the warping around it feels... dunno, meh.
If anyone laughs at your complaining, or rolls their eyes, they have no idea just how big of an effect such a nerf is.
For those who haven't played EVE for any appreciable amount of time, here is how skills are trained:
Skills are trained over real-world time. Some skills can take over a week, month, or longer to train. You can only train one skill at a time.
That means over a month or more can be wasted on your skill-ups, and training skills in EVE is not a trivial thing. EVE is built around players staying for the long term, and to do anything you need to train up skills for a long period of time. There's not a real comparison situation in other MMOs. This type of thing is a real kick in the balls to those people who spent training that skill. It's not like a nerf to some "epic loot".
I haven't played EVE in a long time, and I didn't even play very long, but I understand enough to know that's a real big safety pin through the testicles.
I doubt these youth would be picking up litter on the highway, but I'll humor you. I imagine they would learn that menial jobs suck and they better stay in school so they can get a decent job.
I'm sure picking up litter on the highway is one way.
Almost all youth start out with some dumb menial labor job no matter what path they take--Burger King, etc. You don't need community service for that and you damn well know that. A piss-poor exccuse if I ever heard one. You just want to try to force people to more "community oriented" in the most left-wing sense of the word.
I don't have an agenda, hell I'm so disappointed in our current system I didn't even vote. I'm much more worried about the control our corporate masters have over us than I am our ineffectual gov't.
And you betray your leanings completely with the phrase "corporate masters". You should have voted for Cynthia McKinney, she was someone you'd really have appreciated.
Like the PE I was forced to do (per Reagans instruction)? What respectable learning did I achieve by swinging my arms and running?
A fair question I asked myself all the time back in high school.
Why? Because everyone will end up in jail in their lifetime? Everyone will work someday, and they will probably start out in an entry level crappy job somewhere. This is like a practice job. Sure there will be plenty of people who won't learn anything from it, but that's already true of every class in High School.
Hmmm. "Practice jobs?" Kids already know that menial labor is boring through work at home AND through the bullshit busy work at their schooling. You don't believe that crapola any more than I do, so why don't you tell me why you really want kids doing "public service"?
And the 10-30% I pay in taxes isn't free labor for the gov't? We all pay our dues in some form,
Supposedly payment for services rendered. If only it really worked that way.
In taxes, however, the money is deducated through income. There is no analogy with forced labor.
Ah, but now your agenda is fully revealed. "Society", to you, is the master, and people are born to serve society and put its interest ahead of one's self and one's own wants and needs. That is your agenda.
I'm sorry you feel that way, personally I think the gov't should have enough control to make sure everyone is pulling their own weight, so that the people who fall to the point of least resistance aren't dragging me down. Taking something that a large portion of schools already do and establishing it as a standard across the board is pretty trivial.
Ah, I was right. Making sure everyone is marching to your beat! Not only are the Obamites "Yes We Can" but they are also "Yes You Will".
There are litter laws because civic minded people wanted a cleaner city and rules were established that "force" you to not litter. Any difference?
You've got to be kidding me. Forcing people to do something (work) is a far, far cry from littering (stopping people from doing something bad) on public property.
What the hell are you going to "learn" new by picking up litter on the highway? That people can throw away some really gross shit? People, quit trying to dress up your agenda with fluffy-sounding words. It's forced labor with an anticapitalist bent and you know it.
Provided I paid for burger king to run by way of my taxes, then yes that's what it is. And as far the "force" thing goes, well you are also forced by law to go to school (until age 15 I beleive), unless you can get your parents to sign off on some sort of homeschool project. Is that also unfair?
Going to school is completely different ballgame. Everything forced in school is relevant to education, anyway, doing menial labor for free is not "education" in any real, respected sense of the word. You might as well ask kids to spend a night in jail so they can "learn" something. It's not the same thing.
I'm starting to think you are just trolling here, and not genuine in your statements, and I hope I am wrong. I'll leave you with this: I like this country. We have lots of freedom. We also have lots of emptyheads. And emptyheads need direction (actually they need specific instructions). Kids are emptyheads, thus need direction. Evewryone needs to understand how to feed themsleves, how to work for money and how to get along with others. Many do not, and will lead long lives of debt and gov't support. I say not only should we force community service on the youth, but also everyone on welfare, or otherwise recieving gov't assistance to supplement their lack of those three abilities.
You're damn right I'm trolling. Anyone who doesn't believe that people should be required to do "free work" for the government is OBVIOUSLY just trying to get a rise out of people!
You claim we have "freedom", and apparently that, to preserve this freedom, we have to have the government direct "empty heads" to "direct" youth to live in a manner acceptable to government, to value what the government wants you to value, to live as the government wants you to live.
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As for the world being a free market of governance, I have to wonder; what's with your Iraq war and preventing countries from having nuclear weapons? That doesn't sound very, erm, "free market" to me. It would be like Burger King thugs rushing into McDonald's to destroy the fryer.
*Bush is on the way out.
Regardless, countries are nothing like a business.
Ah, so anything the government does is OK as long as you can leave. Got that. Now that Bush is finally gone the liberals can talk thug once again.
Not making a judgment here, but noting your analogy is wrong. Taxation would be more like being forced food upon you (without you getting to choose what kind) and then being demanded you pay for it.
1) this isn't my first slashdot account, and I've been reading slashdot much longer than I've ever had an account.
2) The vast majority of people on slashdot have high userids for rather obvious reasons!
3) You're dick-waving about user ids? That's pretty lame.
WTF is all I"m saying.
Well, if idle has good articles what's the difference between Idle and not-Idle...?
Additionally, if Idle isn't any good, then most people think it's a waste. No contradiction here.
"I believe it's best for everyone when you spread the regulations around."
So let's dumb ourselves down to the level of the most stupid among us.
Wait, too late.
I have an idea of what you could do with one of them ;)
May I add:
What is science, if not applied philosophy?
Nobody agreed to Obama's changes simply by voting for him; perhaps they hoped that he would not get a lot of his platform passed past Congress.
You are right that just by voting against Obama that they didn't necessarily disagree with him. However, that also means that people that voted for him didn't necessarily agree to his plans, either. If you're going to argue that the he's even more popular due to that fact you have to recognize that the same simply holds true for Obama. Perhaps it all balances out. Perhaps not. I know a lot of people that really do not lean left at all, especially libertarian types, that swallowed their pride and voted Obama simply because they thought McCain would be worse, particularly for the war.
Imagine a hypothetical nightmare scenario with two tyrants from history running against each other. I'll let you pick them. If someone voted for one of them because they thought less deaths would ultimately occur going with them, it does not mean they agree to whatever horrible policies that tyrant does in fact believe in, or even must accept.
A lot of people mostly wanted an end to the war and voted accordingly, as well. That does not mean they consent AT ALL to what the president promises.
Ah, how can you tell what those that voted for Obama wanted, either? You can't pick and choose. Maybe people voted for him because they thought he was the "lesser of two great evils".
Ah, but most people also like programs which ultimately give them "free" things.
Science-wise that's usually the case because the right-wing typically is associated with religion, but that's not necessarily the case and nothing is stopping that from changing in the future. The far-far-far-left really perverts some science too, like the postmodernists...
Best thing about the word "responsible" is that it's always a value judgment. His value judgment.
He sounds just like those people that say you need to give you your civil liberties in order to protect them (from some evil).
Wow, not only do you not seem to understand evolution, but you thought he was saying something he wasn't at all, and I have no clue whatsoever you thought he said.l
To say evolution "intends" something IS TO COMPLETELY AND ABSOLUTELY MISS THE POINT OF EVOLUTION.
Anonymous Coward, I too join you in shedding tears over this ignorance of evolution.
Evolution doesn't really have "stages" and wouldn't be put to a "halt" by preventing a disease from killing us; it just means we don't make a certain type of change. Seriously, read up on evolution! You should really know better.
They seem to be through with the original spirit of the show, making it less "medical mystery" and more "hospital soap opera". :(
Lynchmob justice?
Don't forget that the vast majority of time the scenery consists of empty space or an out-space background. Maybe there are asteroids around or in the background. Maybe a planet is nearby. But with the warping around it feels... dunno, meh.
If anyone laughs at your complaining, or rolls their eyes, they have no idea just how big of an effect such a nerf is.
For those who haven't played EVE for any appreciable amount of time, here is how skills are trained:
Skills are trained over real-world time. Some skills can take over a week, month, or longer to train. You can only train one skill at a time.
That means over a month or more can be wasted on your skill-ups, and training skills in EVE is not a trivial thing. EVE is built around players staying for the long term, and to do anything you need to train up skills for a long period of time. There's not a real comparison situation in other MMOs. This type of thing is a real kick in the balls to those people who spent training that skill. It's not like a nerf to some "epic loot".
I haven't played EVE in a long time, and I didn't even play very long, but I understand enough to know that's a real big safety pin through the testicles.
I doubt these youth would be picking up litter on the highway, but I'll humor you. I imagine they would learn that menial jobs suck and they better stay in school so they can get a decent job.
I'm sure picking up litter on the highway is one way.
Almost all youth start out with some dumb menial labor job no matter what path they take--Burger King, etc. You don't need community service for that and you damn well know that. A piss-poor exccuse if I ever heard one. You just want to try to force people to more "community oriented" in the most left-wing sense of the word.
I don't have an agenda, hell I'm so disappointed in our current system I didn't even vote. I'm much more worried about the control our corporate masters have over us than I am our ineffectual gov't.
And you betray your leanings completely with the phrase "corporate masters". You should have voted for Cynthia McKinney, she was someone you'd really have appreciated.
Like the PE I was forced to do (per Reagans instruction)? What respectable learning did I achieve by swinging my arms and running?
A fair question I asked myself all the time back in high school.
Why? Because everyone will end up in jail in their lifetime? Everyone will work someday, and they will probably start out in an entry level crappy job somewhere. This is like a practice job. Sure there will be plenty of people who won't learn anything from it, but that's already true of every class in High School.
Hmmm.
"Practice jobs?" Kids already know that menial labor is boring through work at home AND through the bullshit busy work at their schooling. You don't believe that crapola any more than I do, so why don't you tell me why you really want kids doing "public service"?
And the 10-30% I pay in taxes isn't free labor for the gov't? We all pay our dues in some form,
Supposedly payment for services rendered. If only it really worked that way.
In taxes, however, the money is deducated through income. There is no analogy with forced labor.
Ah, but now your agenda is fully revealed. "Society", to you, is the master, and people are born to serve society and put its interest ahead of one's self and one's own wants and needs. That is your agenda.
I'm sorry you feel that way, personally I think the gov't should have enough control to make sure everyone is pulling their own weight, so that the people who fall to the point of least resistance aren't dragging me down. Taking something that a large portion of schools already do and establishing it as a standard across the board is pretty trivial.
Ah, I was right. Making sure everyone is marching to your beat! Not only are the Obamites "Yes We Can" but they are also "Yes You Will".
Thugs.
There are litter laws because civic minded people wanted a cleaner city and rules were established that "force" you to not litter. Any difference?
You've got to be kidding me. Forcing people to do something (work) is a far, far cry from littering (stopping people from doing something bad) on public property.
What the hell are you going to "learn" new by picking up litter on the highway? That people can throw away some really gross shit? People, quit trying to dress up your agenda with fluffy-sounding words. It's forced labor with an anticapitalist bent and you know it.
Provided I paid for burger king to run by way of my taxes, then yes that's what it is. And as far the "force" thing goes, well you are also forced by law to go to school (until age 15 I beleive), unless you can get your parents to sign off on some sort of homeschool project. Is that also unfair?
Going to school is completely different ballgame. Everything forced in school is relevant to education, anyway, doing menial labor for free is not "education" in any real, respected sense of the word. You might as well ask kids to spend a night in jail so they can "learn" something. It's not the same thing.
I'm starting to think you are just trolling here, and not genuine in your statements, and I hope I am wrong. I'll leave you with this: I like this country. We have lots of freedom. We also have lots of emptyheads. And emptyheads need direction (actually they need specific instructions). Kids are emptyheads, thus need direction. Evewryone needs to understand how to feed themsleves, how to work for money and how to get along with others. Many do not, and will lead long lives of debt and gov't support. I say not only should we force community service on the youth, but also everyone on welfare, or otherwise recieving gov't assistance to supplement their lack of those three abilities.
You're damn right I'm trolling. Anyone who doesn't believe that people should be required to do "free work" for the government is OBVIOUSLY just trying to get a rise out of people!
You claim we have "freedom", and apparently that, to preserve this freedom, we have to have the government direct "empty heads" to "direct" youth to live in a manner acceptable to government, to value what the government wants you to value, to live as the government wants you to live.
That's a bit too much control for me.
(buying @ wallmart 30 miles away sends value away from your community)
How utterly criminal.
Just shut up and do what Obama says, eh? Don't ask, don't talk. Just OBEY.
Just sit down and shut up until Obama's forced us into his glorious leader master plans...?