right now I use safari, but since about 1.5 years ago the browser has also drifted toward bloat.
Check out the Safari 4 beta if you can (there is a beta for developers). It's got some issues - it is beta, but it is screamin' fast both rendering and JavaScript.
Actually, I think this will have a positive effect. It may cut into Firefox's market share, but it will also likely cut into IE's market share. Also, rumor has it will be based on WebKit, the same under-pinnings as Safari (which just passed Acid3). Both Firefox and WebKit are actually striving for WC3 compliance, so the net result should be pressure to support non-IE browsers.
Me too, I was responding to a completely different thread! I can't even find the one I was responding too, although I'm at work and can't look that hard.
FYI - I was responding to a thread where someone asked what you could use to debug if you don't have a debugger. Hence my completely out-of-context 'Your Brain' quip. Man, I'm really perplexed as to how I could screw up using the Reply button. Hopefully I get it right this time...
Seriously, I'm a huge fan of debuggers but there are situations where they are not feasible. In those situations you use what you can to understand what's going on. That may be logging to a file or the console. Heck, I've even thrown in an intentional division by zero so I could get a quick stack trace dumped to the console.
But I've never met any "common man" family with a linux based PC.... I still can't quite believe that Joe Bloggs with zero knowledge will comprehend the virtues...
That's what I thought not too long ago. Within the last year a friend's not very technical 18 year old son installed Ubuntu on is computer and is happy as a clam. Then my 13 year old nephew installed Ubuntu on his laptop because he was tired of his fairly new system totally dogging down. He's got printing going, uses open office for all his school work and gets a huge kick out of how fast it boots (Mom! Mom! Come check this out!). But I did get a couple of "support" calls from my Nephew.
Maybe the first wave will be younger, braver people that know or are related to geeks.
My Ubuntu system uses a caching name server out of the box, so that's good. (Ubuntu is so magic I wasn't sure how it was configured...) I'm not sure about other distributions, but people should check their/etc/resovl.conf just in case.
What's next, suing victims that have swastikas painted on their garages with hate crimes? Look, there's a swastika painted on the garage of these people living at this street address! Proof! Guilty!
That's quite a straw man. If someone painted a swastika on my garage, I'd call the police to report the vandalism. Anyone is free to try to sue anybody for anything, the vast majority of the lame stuff gets dismissed.
More silly examples. Paper is not a person, therefore police dismiss threatening letters because they may have been forged. Threatening messages left on voice mail could be from an impostor, best wait until they actually rape you before looking into it.
Maybe crimes and threats should be taken seriously and there should be some sort of system to determine the guilty party to the best of our ability. Some sort of adversarial system where both sides present the evidence of their case. Perhaps some disinterested third party could weigh the evidence. I know, a group of people agreed upon by both parties selected using a formal process. It wouldn't be perfect, but I bet something like that would help...
When your main concern is speed C++ (or C for that matter) is they way to go.
From what I've heard, Goggle uses three languages in production: C++, Python and Java (not to mention all that Web 2.0 craziness on the client side.) I don't think they hired Guido van Rossum to write C++ (although he is obviously a talented C programmer.)
I hadn't seen Citizendium before, that looks interesting.
I think the two projects have differing philosophies and goals although there is some overlap. I think that Knol is "less wiki-like", more a collection of expert (and amateur) articles that allows for author controlled collaboration. Citizendium seems to be like a classic collaborative wiki with stronger authentication and editing policies.
Of course I could be completely wrong. I'm suppose to be debugging not surfing. Doh!
That's funny that the featured article you read seemed like a blog, because one of the tips for writing a knol is:
* Don't write a blog. Knols are meant to be standalone articles on a topic of your choosing. Knol is not optimized for diary-type writing.
I skimmed a couple of the medical articles and they actually seemed extremely well done and complete. It will be interesting if this goes anywhere or just becomes a centralized place for self-promoting blow hards on the 'net.
Actually the energy to MAKE the steel, rubber, etc. produced 5 times the CO2 that I produced driving 20 minutes to work.
I'm curios about the math here. Are you saying that every five days driving to work produces the same amount of CO2 as required to build a bicycle? If so, that's not a great argument for the car. That's 52 bicycles a year just from the commute. Plus I suspect a lot more CO2 was produced creating the car than the bicycle.
I'm not arguing that bicycles are the answer, but I'm trying to grok how your statistic somehow makes the car a more carbon friendly option.
stupid things like the Mighty Mouse... I've had $5.00 junk box mice work better
Does it really not work? I have a Mighty Mouse, I think it's fantastic and find other mice plain annoying. Just curious if it's a preference or performance issue.
If you go by "sales record" then Apple has less than 8% marketshare anyway, which means that pratically nobody wants a Mac to begin with.
I wish I could mod this funny. Even when Apple is making money hand over fist in the middle of a freakin' recession, arm-chair CEO's are trying to save poor stupid Apple. LOL
I wish Mac's were cheaper too, but they aren't. I also wish strippers were free... (as in "beer" - and disease for that matter).
I'm pretty sure it was a decision based resolution, image quality, memory and possibly money. Most of those early color systems looked pretty crappy. Even powerful workstations like Apollo started out as black and white around.
As others have noted, the Apple ][ had color, but the text mode was pretty clunky (not the WSIWYG display that made to Mac the darling of publishing.)
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right now I use safari, but since about 1.5 years ago the browser has also drifted toward bloat.
Check out the Safari 4 beta if you can (there is a beta for developers). It's got some issues - it is beta, but it is screamin' fast both rendering and JavaScript.
Actually, I think this will have a positive effect. It may cut into Firefox's market share, but it will also likely cut into IE's market share. Also, rumor has it will be based on WebKit, the same under-pinnings as Safari (which just passed Acid3). Both Firefox and WebKit are actually striving for WC3 compliance, so the net result should be pressure to support non-IE browsers.
Okay, I'm officially confused,
Me too, I was responding to a completely different thread! I can't even find the one I was responding too, although I'm at work and can't look that hard.
FYI - I was responding to a thread where someone asked what you could use to debug if you don't have a debugger. Hence my completely out-of-context 'Your Brain' quip. Man, I'm really perplexed as to how I could screw up using the Reply button. Hopefully I get it right this time...
Your brain?
Seriously, I'm a huge fan of debuggers but there are situations where they are not feasible. In those situations you use what you can to understand what's going on. That may be logging to a file or the console. Heck, I've even thrown in an intentional division by zero so I could get a quick stack trace dumped to the console.
But I've never met any "common man" family with a linux based PC. ... I still can't quite believe that Joe Bloggs with zero knowledge will comprehend the virtues ...
That's what I thought not too long ago. Within the last year a friend's not very technical 18 year old son installed Ubuntu on is computer and is happy as a clam. Then my 13 year old nephew installed Ubuntu on his laptop because he was tired of his fairly new system totally dogging down. He's got printing going, uses open office for all his school work and gets a huge kick out of how fast it boots (Mom! Mom! Come check this out!). But I did get a couple of "support" calls from my Nephew.
Maybe the first wave will be younger, braver people that know or are related to geeks.
Responding to self with more info...
My Ubuntu system uses a caching name server out of the box, so that's good. (Ubuntu is so magic I wasn't sure how it was configured...) I'm not sure about other distributions, but people should check their /etc/resovl.conf just in case.
The resolver logic in glibc has the same problem. Full Disclosure: [SECURITY] [DSA 1605-1] DNS vulnerability impact on the libc stub resolver
The only way around it is to configure a local caching DNS server.
What's next, suing victims that have swastikas painted on their garages with hate crimes? Look, there's a swastika painted on the garage of these people living at this street address! Proof! Guilty!
That's quite a straw man. If someone painted a swastika on my garage, I'd call the police to report the vandalism. Anyone is free to try to sue anybody for anything, the vast majority of the lame stuff gets dismissed.
More silly examples. Paper is not a person, therefore police dismiss threatening letters because they may have been forged. Threatening messages left on voice mail could be from an impostor, best wait until they actually rape you before looking into it.
Maybe crimes and threats should be taken seriously and there should be some sort of system to determine the guilty party to the best of our ability. Some sort of adversarial system where both sides present the evidence of their case. Perhaps some disinterested third party could weigh the evidence. I know, a group of people agreed upon by both parties selected using a formal process. It wouldn't be perfect, but I bet something like that would help...
At the risk of getting modded to oblivion, communism is a socioeconimic system that has nothing to do censorship.
When your main concern is speed C++ (or C for that matter) is they way to go.
From what I've heard, Goggle uses three languages in production: C++, Python and Java (not to mention all that Web 2.0 craziness on the client side.) I don't think they hired Guido van Rossum to write C++ (although he is obviously a talented C programmer.)
But they have banned smoking in public (at least in most of the places in the US), right? So, what's next?
Farting?
I tried to quit once, but I gained a lot of weight. - Steve Martin (before most of you whippersnappers were born).
The only ones I think would panic is the religious nut-jobs...
Except the Scientologist and a few others.
I hadn't seen Citizendium before, that looks interesting.
I think the two projects have differing philosophies and goals although there is some overlap. I think that Knol is "less wiki-like", more a collection of expert (and amateur) articles that allows for author controlled collaboration. Citizendium seems to be like a classic collaborative wiki with stronger authentication and editing policies.
Of course I could be completely wrong. I'm suppose to be debugging not surfing. Doh!
That's funny that the featured article you read seemed like a blog, because one of the tips for writing a knol is:
* Don't write a blog. Knols are meant to be standalone articles on a topic of your choosing. Knol is not optimized for diary-type writing.
I skimmed a couple of the medical articles and they actually seemed extremely well done and complete. It will be interesting if this goes anywhere or just becomes a centralized place for self-promoting blow hards on the 'net.
If some "environmentalists" were predicting an ice age in the 1970s, it sounds like they were quite ignorant of the scientific research.
Now don't go all logical on us. What's important is that "someone" once had an opinion different then "they" have now, therefore you're a stupid head.
Actually the energy to MAKE the steel, rubber, etc. produced 5 times the CO2 that I produced driving 20 minutes to work.
I'm curios about the math here. Are you saying that every five days driving to work produces the same amount of CO2 as required to build a bicycle? If so, that's not a great argument for the car. That's 52 bicycles a year just from the commute. Plus I suspect a lot more CO2 was produced creating the car than the bicycle.
I'm not arguing that bicycles are the answer, but I'm trying to grok how your statistic somehow makes the car a more carbon friendly option.
Just how does one "act like a dildo" ?
Stand really erect. Duh.
your parents were worried about your generation too, and you turned out all right... right?
I didn't.
Linus makes you do this? So what's he like in person?
stupid things like the Mighty Mouse ... I've had $5.00 junk box mice work better
Does it really not work? I have a Mighty Mouse, I think it's fantastic and find other mice plain annoying. Just curious if it's a preference or performance issue.
You're faulting Apple's UI paradigms by using a Microsoft application as your example?
Methinks he (GP) was contrasting Apple's UI consistency (good) with MS's lack thereof (ungood).
If you go by "sales record" then Apple has less than 8% marketshare anyway, which means that pratically nobody wants a Mac to begin with.
I wish I could mod this funny. Even when Apple is making money hand over fist in the middle of a freakin' recession, arm-chair CEO's are trying to save poor stupid Apple. LOL
I wish Mac's were cheaper too, but they aren't. I also wish strippers were free... (as in "beer" - and disease for that matter).
I'm pretty sure it was a decision based resolution, image quality, memory and possibly money. Most of those early color systems looked pretty crappy. Even powerful workstations like Apollo started out as black and white around.
As others have noted, the Apple ][ had color, but the text mode was pretty clunky (not the WSIWYG display that made to Mac the darling of publishing.)
Hmmmm... I thought I hit had reply to #23972365. Pesky computers...
Aren't there valid arguments that say that this is just a cyclic phenomenon linked to solar activity?
No. Increased solar output appear to only account for a small portion of the increase in temperature. Of course some of the 10,000s of scientists involved may by liberal, so we can just ignore them...