>1) If you do not want to let him get out, what do you want, a life in prison or a death penalty?
Either one is fine with me, really.
>2) If you mean a life in prison, are you willing >to consider the financial and social >consequences, as at this moment your country >already has the highest number of people in jail >and the most severe penalties of any western >nation. >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1494726.s tm >Prison populations (per 100,000) >EU average is 88 >England and Wales top with 128 >Finland is lowest at 52 >USA has world high of 702 >You might end up putting a very significant >portion of your population in jail.
Well, I'm ambivalent towards the drug war, so I'm not against letting some non-violent drug users to make room for more murderers. And if there's still not enough room, then more prisons can always be built. Overcrowding prisons is no excuse for letting murderers run free.
>3) If you mean the death penalty, what number of >errors and innocently convicted are you willing >to accept?
Well, in this report, the guy never denied that he murdered the girl, so the point is moot here.
>4) What result do you want to achieve with your >justice system? What do you call justice? I could >have murderer someone after my car was stolen, do >you think putting the death penalty, or life on >every crime would help? Burglary, speeding? It >does not prove anything, but the USA has the >highest number of convicts, the severest >penalties (only one with death penalty) and the >highest crime rates in the western world.
And is that somehow an excuse to reward a murderer with freedom, something a corpse can never have? Intent to harm the individual (who did nothing to harm you) is the paramount barometer, IMO. Nothing else needs to be "proven". If you end the life of an innocent person, you should never be able to enjoy the same freedoms as you or me. Period.
I'm really amazed that there are people here more concerned with the rights of murderers than victims.
What the hell else needs to be known besides the fact that a 12 year old girl died by his hand? I can't imagine what circumstances could change what should happen to him.
I never said anything about taking the law into your own hands. My point was that this guy should have been sentenced to life in prison without parole. In a primarily-Republican state, that might have happened.
"Would you like to be punished forever for something you did a long time ago?"
Please tell me you're not suggesting that nobody should ever get life without parole whatever the circumstance.
Perhaps not revenge, but the justice system should be about, well, justice. Letting this man walk free while the 12-year-old girl remains dead is not justice to me. Can the girl just "get on with her life"? No. So then why should he?
Thanks for pointing out why I can never become a Democrat. Sure Republicans piss me off sometimes as well, but I can never back up anyone who would defend a cold-blooded murderer of an innocent child.
Of course I was just talking about actual murderers. I see plenty of cases where the murder was premeditated and yet somehow the perp walks the streets before they die, while the victim never gets that opportunity.
Reminds me of a story here in the NYC area about a year ago, about a New Jersey guy who raped and killed a 12 year old girl in 1985 and is having a tough time reassimilating with the community upon his recent release. The report kept discussing the harassment this guy was facing by the locals and how he can't get a break. But not once did the report ask the question I couldn't stop wondering - "WHY THE HELL IS THIS GUY OUT OF JAIL?!?!?!?!" There's something wrong with the criminal justice system, at least in the Northeast. Last I checked, the girl is still dead, so why is this guy walking the streets in the first place? And why is the news trying to shore up sympathy for this guy????
Now that the word is out, I bet someone will find their vulnerabilities on their own, and go one step further and exploit them. Then this guy willbe blamed for the whole thing.
I like to minimize my windows to avoid clutter, but it appears Expose does not act on minimized windows, which really kills the effectiveness for me. Does anyone know of a hack that will turn this on for me?
I'm aware of the first part. I use my PC iPod on both systems. That wasn't always true though. When I got my original 20 GB last year I hooked it up to my co-worker's Mac and iTunes destroyed my database (the songs were still there, but all of them were 0 second length). Apparently an update fixed that.
I do have xplay, so I guess I can get by with that if I choose to switch to HFS+. How is HFS+ support in Linux so far?
I'll have to try it out tonight. I wonder if it allows Mac-formatted iPods to be read as well, like Xplay does? That would be great, since that would allow my to use HFS+ format instad, that way I can boot off of it on my powerbook.
Plus, I hope this means that true Play Count support has arrived for PC users (you need at least firmware 1.3 for that wot work though)
I dont remember the exact number, but it was definitely less than 9200 files. What gets me is that the programmers obviously acknowledged a flaw in their program if they wrote the error message in the first place.
I don't understand why the GNOME crew never implemented the superior Ximian file selector over their bare-bones one. After traversing partitions it really is handy to have a "Home" button, and though it is a step back version-wise, that is why I am using XD2 instead of playing with the garnome releases.
Sorry, but even the latest Nautilus is noticably slower then Konqueror. I have a directory with a few thousand files and Nautilus popped up a message saying something like "There are too many files for Nautilus to display. Exiting" WTF?????? Its the primary job of the friggin app and it won't do it??? Very unprofessional.
Funny - I figured since that attitude was unfairly killing the Dreamcast, I might as well use it against Sony as well - "Why buy a PS2 now when the X-Box is coming out next year?". And the Dreamcast wasn't too far behind the PS2 in terms of hardware specs. Some cross-platform games actually looked better on the Dreamcast (like DOA2).
This is such a cool feature that is sorely lacking in PC iPods (works fine on Mac though). I know no PC software supports it, but if they added it in the next firmware release, I'm sure one of the open-sourcers would run with it fairly quickly...
Is there ever going to be RPMs available for 7.3? I'm getting tired of compiling the entire GARNOME distribution for 7 hours every time there's a new release. I refuse to upgrade to 8.0 (Don't want "null' or whatever they call it, plus the other problems people have had). Plus Garnome's distribution of KDE is horribly broken - all of my text just shows up as dashes in every QT app.
In the trailer, Banner claims that he likes becoming the Hulk. That's a gross violation of his character. Why try to find a cure for his Hulk-ness when he likes the destruction he causes? Hollywood has never gotten a comic book movie right since Superman, which is sad since that was over 25 years ago:(
I'm willing to lay odds that there will be some inappropriate mention of the size of the Hulk's member as well.....
Why the hell are they assuming that one company's successfull business plan automatically means that every one else in the same industry has a financially sound plan?
Umm...ok now you're reaching for conspiracy theories to prove your point, so there's no further use in delving into that matter.
Re: 9/11 - Tell me genius, if the Democrats were so prescient to know that plans for the World Trade Center attack were underway before it happened (and this DID begin when Clinton was still president), why didn't they stop it before the 2000 election? Why didn't Clinton get Bin Laden when he was offered to him by Sudan (his Yemen attack happened while he was president you know)? If I were to use cnspiracy theories like you do, I would say that they let it happen to make Bush look bad. But I don't play that game. The bottom line is there would have been no difference in outcome in 9/2001, because the Dems were in power when this was brewing. Surely there would have been a difference in what we did about it though.
>1) If you do not want to let him get out, what do you want, a life in prison or a death penalty?
Either one is fine with me, really.
>2) If you mean a life in prison, are you willing >to consider the financial and social >consequences, as at this moment your country >already has the highest number of people in jail >and the most severe penalties of any western >nation.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1494726.
>Prison populations (per 100,000)
>EU average is 88
>England and Wales top with 128
>Finland is lowest at 52
>USA has world high of 702
>You might end up putting a very significant >portion of your population in jail.
Well, I'm ambivalent towards the drug war, so I'm not against letting some non-violent drug users to make room for more murderers. And if there's still not enough room, then more prisons can always be built. Overcrowding prisons is no excuse for letting murderers run free.
>3) If you mean the death penalty, what number of >errors and innocently convicted are you willing >to accept?
Well, in this report, the guy never denied that he murdered the girl, so the point is moot here.
>4) What result do you want to achieve with your >justice system? What do you call justice? I could >have murderer someone after my car was stolen, do >you think putting the death penalty, or life on >every crime would help? Burglary, speeding? It >does not prove anything, but the USA has the >highest number of convicts, the severest >penalties (only one with death penalty) and the >highest crime rates in the western world.
And is that somehow an excuse to reward a murderer with freedom, something a corpse can never have? Intent to harm the individual (who did nothing to harm you) is the paramount barometer, IMO. Nothing else needs to be "proven". If you end the life of an innocent person, you should never be able to enjoy the same freedoms as you or me. Period.
I'm really amazed that there are people here more concerned with the rights of murderers than victims.
I agree. That's why I think that if the girl had been 72 years old, that should not change his sentence.
What the hell else needs to be known besides the fact that a 12 year old girl died by his hand? I can't imagine what circumstances could change what should happen to him.
I never said anything about taking the law into your own hands. My point was that this guy should have been sentenced to life in prison without parole. In a primarily-Republican state, that might have happened.
"Would you like to be punished forever for something you did a long time ago?"
Please tell me you're not suggesting that nobody should ever get life without parole whatever the circumstance.
Perhaps not revenge, but the justice system should be about, well, justice. Letting this man walk free while the 12-year-old girl remains dead is not justice to me. Can the girl just "get on with her life"? No. So then why should he?
Thanks for pointing out why I can never become a Democrat. Sure Republicans piss me off sometimes as well, but I can never back up anyone who would defend a cold-blooded murderer of an innocent child.
Thanks for the clarification. I had no idea! :/
Of course I was just talking about actual murderers. I see plenty of cases where the murder was premeditated and yet somehow the perp walks the streets before they die, while the victim never gets that opportunity.
Why aren't taking into account whether or not the victim(s) are still dead? That would be true common sense.
Reminds me of a story here in the NYC area about a year ago, about a New Jersey guy who raped and killed a 12 year old girl in 1985 and is having a tough time reassimilating with the community upon his recent release. The report kept discussing the harassment this guy was facing by the locals and how he can't get a break. But not once did the report ask the question I couldn't stop wondering - "WHY THE HELL IS THIS GUY OUT OF JAIL?!?!?!?!" There's something wrong with the criminal justice system, at least in the Northeast. Last I checked, the girl is still dead, so why is this guy walking the streets in the first place? And why is the news trying to shore up sympathy for this guy????
Goddamn it, I never seem to have mod points when I want them......
Good one!
Now that the word is out, I bet someone will find their vulnerabilities on their own, and go one step further and exploit them. Then this guy willbe blamed for the whole thing.
I like to minimize my windows to avoid clutter, but it appears Expose does not act on minimized windows, which really kills the effectiveness for me. Does anyone know of a hack that will turn this on for me?
I'm aware of the first part. I use my PC iPod on both systems. That wasn't always true though. When I got my original 20 GB last year I hooked it up to my co-worker's Mac and iTunes destroyed my database (the songs were still there, but all of them were 0 second length). Apparently an update fixed that.
I do have xplay, so I guess I can get by with that if I choose to switch to HFS+. How is HFS+ support in Linux so far?
I'll have to try it out tonight. I wonder if it allows Mac-formatted iPods to be read as well, like Xplay does? That would be great, since that would allow my to use HFS+ format instad, that way I can boot off of it on my powerbook.
Plus, I hope this means that true Play Count support has arrived for PC users (you need at least firmware 1.3 for that wot work though)
Yep, here's the one I have from lik-sang :
:)
link
Works like a charm, and lets you use Saturn and Dreamcast controllers to boot! I use the Saturn controller for SC2, and I never looked back!
Ahhh, gconf....since everyone loves the Windows registry, lets give Unix one too.......
I dont remember the exact number, but it was definitely less than 9200 files. What gets me is that the programmers obviously acknowledged a flaw in their program if they wrote the error message in the first place.
I don't understand why the GNOME crew never implemented the superior Ximian file selector over their bare-bones one. After traversing partitions it really is handy to have a "Home" button, and though it is a step back version-wise, that is why I am using XD2 instead of playing with the garnome releases.
Sorry, but even the latest Nautilus is noticably slower then Konqueror.
I have a directory with a few thousand files and Nautilus popped up a message saying something like "There are too many files for Nautilus to display. Exiting" WTF?????? Its the primary job of the friggin app and it won't do it??? Very unprofessional.
Funny - I figured since that attitude was unfairly killing the Dreamcast, I might as well use it against Sony as well - "Why buy a PS2 now when the X-Box is coming out next year?". And the Dreamcast wasn't too far behind the PS2 in terms of hardware specs. Some cross-platform games actually looked better on the Dreamcast (like DOA2).
This is such a cool feature that is sorely lacking
in PC iPods (works fine on Mac though). I know no PC software supports it, but if they added it in the next firmware release, I'm sure one of the open-sourcers would run with it fairly quickly...
Is there ever going to be RPMs available for 7.3? I'm getting tired of compiling the entire GARNOME distribution for 7 hours every time there's a new release. I refuse to upgrade to 8.0 (Don't want "null' or whatever they call it, plus the other problems people have had). Plus Garnome's distribution of KDE is horribly broken - all of my text just shows up as dashes in every QT app.
In the trailer, Banner claims that he likes becoming the Hulk. That's a gross violation of his character. Why try to find a cure for his Hulk-ness when he likes the destruction he causes? Hollywood has never gotten a comic book movie right since Superman, which is sad since that was over 25 years ago :(
I'm willing to lay odds that there will be some inappropriate mention of the size of the Hulk's member as well.....
Why the hell are they assuming that one company's successfull business plan automatically means that every one else in the same industry has a financially sound plan?
Umm...ok now you're reaching for conspiracy theories to prove your point, so there's no further use in delving into that matter.
Re: 9/11 - Tell me genius, if the Democrats were so prescient to know that plans for the World Trade Center attack were underway before it happened (and this DID begin when Clinton was still president), why didn't they stop it before the 2000 election? Why didn't Clinton get Bin Laden when he was offered to him by Sudan (his Yemen attack happened while he was president you know)? If I were to use cnspiracy theories like you do, I would say that they let it happen to make Bush look bad. But I don't play that game. The bottom line is there would have been no difference in outcome in 9/2001, because the Dems were in power when this was brewing. Surely there would have been a difference in what we did about it though.
Even if the Supreme Court hadn't ended things early, the recount that Gore wanted would not have gone in his favor anyway:
2 s2 -csm.shtml
http://csmweb2.emcweb.com/durable/2001/04/06/fp