One thing that I have noticed about the QT toolkit was that it really wasn't that stable. Most GTK programs I have used don't crash, while many QT applications segfault for no real reason. Now, part of this could be from using some QT applications without installing all of KDE, or using a GTK-based distro (Ubuntu), but I just don't like QT because it seems so... Unstable.
The lack of UI standardization is really making life unnecessarily hard.
Oh yah, because they are so standarized in Windows. Let see if they all use the Windows toolkit and have the same UI for some common Windows Apps.
1. Office, nope
2. Firefox nope
3. Games nope
And many more. Just about every Linux application uses either QT or GTK. Both are good, and in just about 75% of common applications you can get either a QT version or a GTK version.
Think about it, just about everyone who wants Unix goes with Linux, a few choose OS X or Solaris, but for most people, they use Linux.
Your point is valid. But look above for my point. If people want Unix they go with Linux. Most OS X users do not want Unix, they want an OS for the Mac they have. Most of the people who want Unix go with Linux. Most OS X users don't even know that OS X is Unix or what Unix even is.
All science is theory. Just think about how science changed in the last 500 years, even the last 10 years. It used to be that atoms were considered the smallest particle, now we know that not to be true. Just about 99% of things in science have changed. Nothing is set in stone, write a law and within 200 years you will find some exception to that rule.
The community installer is your friend...proprietary distribution systems will fail.
Yah, most of us here on/. will probably jailbreak our iPhones/iPod touches and will probably end up installing Linux to our unused older iPods, but as for everyone else or anyone who is an Apple fanboy, they won't use it. Will the community system be better? Yep. But will the general public use it? Nope.
The right video card for the right person can easily be in use as long as a good console would.
Yah, but the quantity of major games fall. While you can play more PC games with a good graphics card, you still can't play any of the major console games, such as Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda, etc. That you can on a console.
Or it could be that you're a troll and a Windows-basher.
Wow, Windows has problems, suddenly I'm a troll and a Windows-basher. Well guess what, your posting anonymously, for what? Don't want to get your precious karma hurt?
The update that came 2(two!) painstaking years later was not much better. It refuses to work with Vista if I have upnp on and it will reset my router if my Vista tries to do anything to the network(including starting up and shutting down)
That isn't a bug... That's a feature! But, I joke
By the way, does anyone have good tips for a new router?
Don't change many settings. For example, my cheap Linksys router I haven't changed much but the password and it works just fine. Granted, I need to reboot about once every 6 months, but other than that, it works just fine.
I had a friend who couldn't set up his Xbox 360 to connect to the internet and couldn't remember his password for his router (it wasn't the default), after holding the reset button for 30 seconds and resetting it to the default settings, his 360 worked flawlessly.
There's nothing about being "an embedded OS" that should make it any more or less stable.
Except for the fact that the end-user isn't messing it up? And that there are very few programs that are installed/will be installed? Really, most embedded OSes should be very stable because the cause for most OS crashes are A) Applications B) Drivers and C) user error. Because applications are not going to be installed and it should ship with very few to begin with, that takes that out of the picture. For B, the router shouldn't need any specialized drivers, or if they do, they should be minimal, and C) because the user only edits configurations that should be "safe" that isn't a problem.
Wouldn't it be just as easy to convert that to a Linux box? I mean, there are loads of distros specially made just for routing and a P II would be almost overkill for most of them. Because isn't XP just kind of... Wasting your resources?
If a client is able to cause a router to crash then there is something wrong with the router design.
Or it could be that the "cure-all" for Windows connection problems is to restart the router, and because Linux has fewer connection problems on average, you only restart the router when it is necessary. It also could be with the TCP timeouts that one poster referred to, it could be that the Windows box was infected with spyware that kept bogging down the router.
Personally, I think is a real shame that so many distributions have non-free software in their repositories, but they are ultimately more concerned with getting more users to their distro than promoting software freedom.
Sure, but lets see... If I want Flash to work on just about everything I have to use the Adobe Flash plug-in, granted it has a major CPU leak and manages to crash Firefox half the time, but GNASH isn't near as close as Adobe's plugin is. And lets see... If I want my wireless to work, I have to use "restricted drivers" that are non-free. And if I want 3-D I have to use "restricted drivers" that are non-free also. Sure, I could spend a few days getting them to work in Debian, or I could spend a good week making them work in Gentoo, but, like most people, I don't have a few days to get something such as Wireless working. And a lot of people such as me don't have access to an Ethernet cord to just plug in and download the drivers.
Sure, I would like my system to be 100% free software, but more importantly, I want my system to be 100% working and 100% fast/stable/cost nothing. Right now, I can get a system to be 75% working and 100% fast/stable/cost nothing with free software, but I miss some major things such as Wi-Fi and 3-D acceleration. Or I can get a system that is 100% working but only 90% fast/stable/cost nothing. Now granted that is better than Windows which is about 90% working and 40% fast/stable/cost nothing or even a Mac which is 100% working but 60% fast/stable/cost nothing (because Apple computers are very expensive)
but has so far failed to displace close source software."
But it has. Think about it, just about everyone who wants Unix goes with Linux, a few choose OS X or Solaris, but for most people, they use Linux. Even look on a desktop OS such as OS X, the shell that it is included isn't some super-proprietary thing, it is Bash (or at least it is included). Think about compilers, the standard is almost universally GCC. Sure, there is still Windows, but as for just about every other OS out there, there are some GNU components to the core OS, even more so when you consider Unix-like OSes. GNU shook up the Unix world, from something closely-guarded to an OS anyone could modify, much as how Wikipedia has done for the encyclopedia, are there still other encyclopedias? Yes, but a lot of people turn to Wikipedia.
Yes, but we still need a (fair) way of helping media creators to make a living from their work.
Such as concerts? Today the RIAA basically gets most of the profits from CDs/iTunes downloads for any signed band. Now when you buy those burnt CDs from a local indie band, most, if not all of it goes to the band, but as for signed bands, they make money from concerts. If we take out the RIAA, we have a nice stream of income from CDs and because it is the bands and not some media overlord, downloading will be tolerated, if not legal.
Which goes to highlight where the companies come from, and what the companies do. Google does search. Yahoo does a lot of other things, of which search is just one component, albeit a major one.
The same thing though could be said about Google, Google has maps, blogs, a social networking site, 2 video sites, and much more
Yes, I know you can read and get the information out of OOXML documents easily, but what if it is required to file them with some application that makes an OOXML file that goes through a parser that displays the data? And knowing the government they aren't even going to even try to do anything to help me....
Yet I think what is so funny is Yahoo is what made Google popular in the first place. When I go to Google, I have the A) Google logo B) A search box and C) A bit of navigation. When I go to Yahoo, I have ads, a large Yahoo logo, a page full of useless information, and Flash. Google uses no Flash which is helpful for a Linux user like me, which, although Flash works, it has a terrible CPU leak in the more recent versions.
Sounds a lot like FOSS. I bet the confusion is intentional, probably a MS/Y! conspiracy to attack Open Source.
Ummm... No. As much as MS would like to see open source dead, this isn't part of it. First off, no one but F/OSS geeks even use the term FOSS, and none of us would confuse BOSS with FOSS. Now if it was something called like, Free Source or something, or something similar to Open Source like MS's Shared Source, it might be taken as an attack, this is just a slightly similar acronym.
It's quite a silly thing to get all ruffled up about. So what if it's a standard? Yea, it probably should not be, and people probably did get paid off, but the ISO is not a defender of freedom for uber-geeks, they are a standards organization, and overall they do a very good job (compare them to ICANN for instance). Get over it man, it's not a big deal. There are bigger things in life to get miffed about.
Yah, it isn't going to be bad at all whenever we turn to paperless filing for things and the government uses crappy "standards" like this and anyone who doesn't use whatever the "standard" implementation is, can't file something such as taxes.
mmm... why would you re-buy Vista if it most likely already comes preinstalled with your gaming rig? And as for Vista vs XP, I don't really think there's much difference in gaming speed. Except of course here in slashdot world where Vista sucks no matter what... For some reason I have no trouble with mine.
Because Vista actually has *gasp* a price when it comes "free" with your new computer. So you are still buying it, albeit at a discounted price. And for some reason on a few decent laptops that I have use sometimes with Vista on them, it is slow, unresponcive, you have to wait like 10 minutes after the eternal boot-up time to actually use it, things randomly freeze, etc. And I really wouldn't call an Intel dual-core CPU and 512 MB underpowered, nor a Turion 64 X2 with 1 GB of RAM underpowered either. especially that once you put a decent OS on them (such as Ubuntu or even XP) they really fly. Sure you might get OK performance if you go overkill on your hardware, but really, do you want to get Pentium III level performance on your new dual-core CPU or dual-core performance on your new CPU?
I think my original argument stands: $600 is NOT a lot of money for a gaming PC, and of course you can use for a lot of other things you cannot use console for, like spreadsheets, 3d modelling etc.
Except that on a PS3 you can use it for spreadsheets (no 3-d acceleration for modeling though) and other consoles are easily hacked to run Linux, and the Wii has a usable web browser and, really, that is half the reason I boot up a computer for anyways, is to check my webmail, read/., etc. And that is only $250 and just about the cheapest computer you can get that won't even play anything more than solitaire is $200. And how long before that $600 gaming rig becomes obsolete? I'd give it about 2 years before you have to upgrade the OS/RAM/Graphics card to play the new games at decent performance. Not to mention all the things that a Windows box needs if it is connected to the 'Net, such as an Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware, extra-secure firewall, which can add up in $$$ if you use commercial products.
No, I was saying that the expected result of boycotting the RIAA would be for the RIAA to stop all the court orders and such and focus on making good music. The actual result though, would be more lawsuits because they don't know how to deal with a loss in profit.
But if I remember correctly, one of the reasons that Brawl was praised was because of the diverse musical score it had, and in fact the themes made by Nobuo Uematsu which is well known in the Final Fantasy community, contributed to that.
No, here is the thing. Anytime someone doesn't buy something from the RIAA, they automatically think that it is pirates. So they increase this sort of stuff. The RIAA has been used to a monopoly for so long, they don't know how to deal with a decrease in profit, so they blame someone else.
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One thing that I have noticed about the QT toolkit was that it really wasn't that stable. Most GTK programs I have used don't crash, while many QT applications segfault for no real reason. Now, part of this could be from using some QT applications without installing all of KDE, or using a GTK-based distro (Ubuntu), but I just don't like QT because it seems so... Unstable.
The lack of UI standardization is really making life unnecessarily hard.
Oh yah, because they are so standarized in Windows. Let see if they all use the Windows toolkit and have the same UI for some common Windows Apps.
1. Office, nope
2. Firefox nope
3. Games nope
And many more. Just about every Linux application uses either QT or GTK. Both are good, and in just about 75% of common applications you can get either a QT version or a GTK version.
Think about it, just about everyone who wants Unix goes with Linux, a few choose OS X or Solaris, but for most people, they use Linux.
Your point is valid. But look above for my point. If people want Unix they go with Linux. Most OS X users do not want Unix, they want an OS for the Mac they have. Most of the people who want Unix go with Linux. Most OS X users don't even know that OS X is Unix or what Unix even is.
All science is theory. Just think about how science changed in the last 500 years, even the last 10 years. It used to be that atoms were considered the smallest particle, now we know that not to be true. Just about 99% of things in science have changed. Nothing is set in stone, write a law and within 200 years you will find some exception to that rule.
All those people that were here before Xenu blew them all up of course!
What does it run? It would be interesting if it was embedded Linux, because there would be so much you could do with it (server, etc)
The community installer is your friend...proprietary distribution systems will fail.
Yah, most of us here on /. will probably jailbreak our iPhones/iPod touches and will probably end up installing Linux to our unused older iPods, but as for everyone else or anyone who is an Apple fanboy, they won't use it. Will the community system be better? Yep. But will the general public use it? Nope.
The right video card for the right person can easily be in use as long as a good console would.
Yah, but the quantity of major games fall. While you can play more PC games with a good graphics card, you still can't play any of the major console games, such as Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda, etc. That you can on a console.
Or it could be that you're a troll and a Windows-basher.
Wow, Windows has problems, suddenly I'm a troll and a Windows-basher. Well guess what, your posting anonymously, for what? Don't want to get your precious karma hurt?
The update that came 2(two!) painstaking years later was not much better. It refuses to work with Vista if I have upnp on and it will reset my router if my Vista tries to do anything to the network(including starting up and shutting down)
That isn't a bug... That's a feature! But, I joke
By the way, does anyone have good tips for a new router?
Don't change many settings. For example, my cheap Linksys router I haven't changed much but the password and it works just fine. Granted, I need to reboot about once every 6 months, but other than that, it works just fine.
I had a friend who couldn't set up his Xbox 360 to connect to the internet and couldn't remember his password for his router (it wasn't the default), after holding the reset button for 30 seconds and resetting it to the default settings, his 360 worked flawlessly.
There's nothing about being "an embedded OS" that should make it any more or less stable.
Except for the fact that the end-user isn't messing it up? And that there are very few programs that are installed/will be installed? Really, most embedded OSes should be very stable because the cause for most OS crashes are A) Applications B) Drivers and C) user error. Because applications are not going to be installed and it should ship with very few to begin with, that takes that out of the picture. For B, the router shouldn't need any specialized drivers, or if they do, they should be minimal, and C) because the user only edits configurations that should be "safe" that isn't a problem.
Wouldn't it be just as easy to convert that to a Linux box? I mean, there are loads of distros specially made just for routing and a P II would be almost overkill for most of them. Because isn't XP just kind of... Wasting your resources?
If a client is able to cause a router to crash then there is something wrong with the router design.
Or it could be that the "cure-all" for Windows connection problems is to restart the router, and because Linux has fewer connection problems on average, you only restart the router when it is necessary. It also could be with the TCP timeouts that one poster referred to, it could be that the Windows box was infected with spyware that kept bogging down the router.
Personally, I think is a real shame that so many distributions have non-free software in their repositories, but they are ultimately more concerned with getting more users to their distro than promoting software freedom.
Sure, but lets see... If I want Flash to work on just about everything I have to use the Adobe Flash plug-in, granted it has a major CPU leak and manages to crash Firefox half the time, but GNASH isn't near as close as Adobe's plugin is. And lets see... If I want my wireless to work, I have to use "restricted drivers" that are non-free. And if I want 3-D I have to use "restricted drivers" that are non-free also. Sure, I could spend a few days getting them to work in Debian, or I could spend a good week making them work in Gentoo, but, like most people, I don't have a few days to get something such as Wireless working. And a lot of people such as me don't have access to an Ethernet cord to just plug in and download the drivers.
Sure, I would like my system to be 100% free software, but more importantly, I want my system to be 100% working and 100% fast/stable/cost nothing. Right now, I can get a system to be 75% working and 100% fast/stable/cost nothing with free software, but I miss some major things such as Wi-Fi and 3-D acceleration. Or I can get a system that is 100% working but only 90% fast/stable/cost nothing. Now granted that is better than Windows which is about 90% working and 40% fast/stable/cost nothing or even a Mac which is 100% working but 60% fast/stable/cost nothing (because Apple computers are very expensive)
but has so far failed to displace close source software."
But it has. Think about it, just about everyone who wants Unix goes with Linux, a few choose OS X or Solaris, but for most people, they use Linux. Even look on a desktop OS such as OS X, the shell that it is included isn't some super-proprietary thing, it is Bash (or at least it is included). Think about compilers, the standard is almost universally GCC. Sure, there is still Windows, but as for just about every other OS out there, there are some GNU components to the core OS, even more so when you consider Unix-like OSes. GNU shook up the Unix world, from something closely-guarded to an OS anyone could modify, much as how Wikipedia has done for the encyclopedia, are there still other encyclopedias? Yes, but a lot of people turn to Wikipedia.
Yes, but we still need a (fair) way of helping media creators to make a living from their work.
Such as concerts? Today the RIAA basically gets most of the profits from CDs/iTunes downloads for any signed band. Now when you buy those burnt CDs from a local indie band, most, if not all of it goes to the band, but as for signed bands, they make money from concerts. If we take out the RIAA, we have a nice stream of income from CDs and because it is the bands and not some media overlord, downloading will be tolerated, if not legal.
Which goes to highlight where the companies come from, and what the companies do. Google does search. Yahoo does a lot of other things, of which search is just one component, albeit a major one.
The same thing though could be said about Google, Google has maps, blogs, a social networking site, 2 video sites, and much more
Yes, I know you can read and get the information out of OOXML documents easily, but what if it is required to file them with some application that makes an OOXML file that goes through a parser that displays the data? And knowing the government they aren't even going to even try to do anything to help me....
Yet I think what is so funny is Yahoo is what made Google popular in the first place. When I go to Google, I have the A) Google logo B) A search box and C) A bit of navigation. When I go to Yahoo, I have ads, a large Yahoo logo, a page full of useless information, and Flash. Google uses no Flash which is helpful for a Linux user like me, which, although Flash works, it has a terrible CPU leak in the more recent versions.
Sounds a lot like FOSS. I bet the confusion is intentional, probably a MS/Y! conspiracy to attack Open Source.
Ummm... No. As much as MS would like to see open source dead, this isn't part of it. First off, no one but F/OSS geeks even use the term FOSS, and none of us would confuse BOSS with FOSS. Now if it was something called like, Free Source or something, or something similar to Open Source like MS's Shared Source, it might be taken as an attack, this is just a slightly similar acronym.
It's quite a silly thing to get all ruffled up about. So what if it's a standard? Yea, it probably should not be, and people probably did get paid off, but the ISO is not a defender of freedom for uber-geeks, they are a standards organization, and overall they do a very good job (compare them to ICANN for instance). Get over it man, it's not a big deal. There are bigger things in life to get miffed about.
Yah, it isn't going to be bad at all whenever we turn to paperless filing for things and the government uses crappy "standards" like this and anyone who doesn't use whatever the "standard" implementation is, can't file something such as taxes.
mmm... why would you re-buy Vista if it most likely already comes preinstalled with your gaming rig? And as for Vista vs XP, I don't really think there's much difference in gaming speed. Except of course here in slashdot world where Vista sucks no matter what... For some reason I have no trouble with mine.
Because Vista actually has *gasp* a price when it comes "free" with your new computer. So you are still buying it, albeit at a discounted price. And for some reason on a few decent laptops that I have use sometimes with Vista on them, it is slow, unresponcive, you have to wait like 10 minutes after the eternal boot-up time to actually use it, things randomly freeze, etc. And I really wouldn't call an Intel dual-core CPU and 512 MB underpowered, nor a Turion 64 X2 with 1 GB of RAM underpowered either. especially that once you put a decent OS on them (such as Ubuntu or even XP) they really fly. Sure you might get OK performance if you go overkill on your hardware, but really, do you want to get Pentium III level performance on your new dual-core CPU or dual-core performance on your new CPU?
I think my original argument stands: $600 is NOT a lot of money for a gaming PC, and of course you can use for a lot of other things you cannot use console for, like spreadsheets, 3d modelling etc.
Except that on a PS3 you can use it for spreadsheets (no 3-d acceleration for modeling though) and other consoles are easily hacked to run Linux, and the Wii has a usable web browser and, really, that is half the reason I boot up a computer for anyways, is to check my webmail, read /., etc. And that is only $250 and just about the cheapest computer you can get that won't even play anything more than solitaire is $200. And how long before that $600 gaming rig becomes obsolete? I'd give it about 2 years before you have to upgrade the OS/RAM/Graphics card to play the new games at decent performance. Not to mention all the things that a Windows box needs if it is connected to the 'Net, such as an Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware, extra-secure firewall, which can add up in $$$ if you use commercial products.
No, I was saying that the expected result of boycotting the RIAA would be for the RIAA to stop all the court orders and such and focus on making good music. The actual result though, would be more lawsuits because they don't know how to deal with a loss in profit.
But if I remember correctly, one of the reasons that Brawl was praised was because of the diverse musical score it had, and in fact the themes made by Nobuo Uematsu which is well known in the Final Fantasy community, contributed to that.
No, here is the thing. Anytime someone doesn't buy something from the RIAA, they automatically think that it is pirates. So they increase this sort of stuff. The RIAA has been used to a monopoly for so long, they don't know how to deal with a decrease in profit, so they blame someone else.