Doubt is fine, the problem is most people can't be bothered to educate themselves and think for themselves.
They would rather let a talking head (scientist, religious leader, etc) do their thinking and tell them which view point/idea has merit rather than being able to figure out what is correct, or more likely to be correct. Worse is that there is much closed mindedness in that people can't see any viewpoint but their own.
We, as a collective species, need to use our own brains and learn at least enough to intelligently follow a given discourse whether it be weather, law, or anything else.
Likelihood of that happening? 0%- although this forecast has been done without much scientific rigour.
Look, unless many Bothans die to bring me this "vital" information, I am just not interested.
I measure the value of interest in Bothans/pg. I expect a high amount of Bothan deaths/pg of info. If we aren't talking at least 10 BD/p then I ain't interested.
However, this video was cool, if we can fix the shaky-cam somehow, even cooler.
I am going to have to call BS on this one.
Two things:
1. Just because all your friends speak the same level of garbage doesn't make you more "Literate." It just means everyone you know speaks like an idiot. It's great that you speak to your audiences level, now let's raise the caliber of that general level.
2. While studying editing for my Degree in Writing (Business and Technical) I had to edit a paper from an Honors level student. I couldn't even understand what point he was trying to make. So, what papers, and from what colleges/universities was she reviewing? I've seen some doozies even up to last month. It's hard to edit for grammar and not touch the content when the content is a turd.
The reasons we teach this, and the reasons it is still important for EVERYONE to have a good general knowledge of things are:
1. Who knows what a child will take interest in, and will then cause them to follow something for life? Can you predict if a child will like physics or literature? No. You expose them to as much as possible and hope they find something in there that they are passionate about...if your choices are chocolate or vanilla, how would you ever know that strawberry is awesome?
2. Why is history important? It's just stuff that already happened...it is important because you can learn from past mistakes (in theory at least). It is important to have a general understanding of the world so you don't just stare at the sky grunting and wondering where this falling water comes from...if you don't know how things work, in general, you can be led like a sheep to follow some idiot without knowing they are wrong. It is important because if all you know is how to turn a screw then why don't we just replace you with a machine...it costs less and doesn't need benefits. However, it can't think of solutions like an intelligent, generally educated person could.
I would not agree- How much of the ideas and capabilities from the novel have either come to be, or close enough as makes no differece? This alone *should* make this a classic for the ages.
I would love to argue that 1984 is more relevant today than say, The Great Gatsby, but with the economy where it is, I would have to admit Gatsby is again relevant (at least to me).
Not all schools have it as required reading. I read it on my own while in High School, and currently re-reading it.
We were assigned Brave New World, but not 1984. Kind of odd.
I wonder, when this goes to court, will it be tried in Room 101?
And if he loses, will he be deleted, or re-educated.
"It is alleged the man was threatening police with a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter, and ignored repeated requests to stop, when he was shot."
He had a lighter- now do the maths (? it's plural?) it is 50/50 whether the lighter caused it or the taser.
Personally though, I think they should have arrested him for illegal use of a fire arm.
You must have played solo.
Personally I always use the unabridged, family size version:
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A Select Start.
Nothing beats sucking for a level and starting to steal the other players lives.
By removing whatever competent lawyers remain for them it makes it even harder for them to win a case.
It's win-win.
RIAA loses the lawyers that enabled them to "win" these silly cases by stupid means, and the government gains a pitbull they can use to win cases.
The only downside is if the pitbull/government go after cases that are not pro-human rights, common sense, etc. I leave that to be seen.
"Uranus as usual will just try to avoid attention since it always ends up with it being made fun of."
You mean, since Uranus ends up as the butt of all jokes?
That is exactly the issue, but here is the catch to the whole thing.
Marriage (the religious institution)-
if I as a member of any/or all churches believe it is permissible (namely that my personal god permits it) then it is allowable under god. I.E a religious marriage is ok. Most people other than fundies would have no real issue seeing it this way. Because if I can't follow my own beliefs then why should you be able to follow yours, or vice versa (no religion gets to tell another religion what they can/can't do)? Basically I get the spiritual benefit of the marriage, but no legal parts.
So guess what? You can not deny anyone the right to a religious marriage if they can find a priest, monk, or other "holy" figure that will marry them. - I am ordained and I will marry whoever I want.
Marriage (the legal institution)-
if I as a member of society marry a person we share all things (money, property, etc) unless things are spelled out in a prenuptual agreement we have to determine who gets what when we split. This is why divorce lawyers are usually involved, and why prenups even exist. Legally anyone over 18 (an adult) or who has the consent of their parents can enter a legally binding agreement. Look at any other legally bindig contract and it will have the same kind of things as a marriage- we agree to the following terms....blah, blah, blah. This is a contract- the government itself issues the contract (you have to get it from a government employee) and a ship captain (?seriously, why?), or a justice of the peace can perform this. Basically I get the legal benefits of a marriage, divorced (yeah I meant to use that) from the holy/religious aspects of it.
We have this thing called seperation of church and state...no state sponsored religion...so see point above- if your religion does not deny it, laws don't deny it, and it doesn't say kill puppies or children, then it is permissible. The only beef anyone can throw at this is that sodomy laws exist on most state law books, but how many people get arrested for that if it is consenting?
Problem solved, there is no legal, ethical way to deny people the right to marry another human...if you want to talk animals, that is another story as most cultures (most) look down on that.
Polygamy would fall under this same thing by the way...multi-party contracts do exist. If everyone involved is cool with it and knows what happens when the divorce comes then why not?
On the only flip side- degredation of family values...I'm not legally married...is my son really missing out on anything? There are stats that gay couple stay together more frequently (stats have been run on this)- think about it...if you can be killed (yes, it's happened) just for asking someone out, wouldn't you stay with someone rather than be trying to find another relationship. And ultimately, the only difference in upbringing should be that they are probably more open to other peoples. Lets face it evil people raise usually raise evil children, it doesn't matter who they hump.
Very good point, that could be why I haven't gone through with it...I dislike guerilla perfomance, where the performance becomes more of a point than the art.
The idea would be akin to: if a tree falls in the forest and you aren't there does it make a noise...if a poem goes off in a crowd, and no one pays attention, is is still a poem?
Bad art is still art...but it still sucks.
Anything that makes one think beyond just the physical presentation (words, colors, sounds, etc.) should be art...but that is also in the eye of the beholder (or the beer holder).
Well, the pen is supposedly mightier than the sword. At least until you get run through.
Although my login is a reference to Harry Harrison. Since I forgot my password and login for the last 2 I setup...should have posted more often.
As a poet, I find the idea interesting...I have debated a similar idea for a while (this is the first I have heard of this particular poem or idea).
It really makes one think about what makes art. For example, if I read a poem while blaring an air horn so you can't hear it, then destroy the paper so it can't be reread, would that still be art? Does art inherently exist or must it be witnessed and understood to be art?
My only beef with reproducing the piece without the "DRM" is that it defeats the uniqueness and umph that having it be a 1 read piece adds to it.
Although, back to the original post and idea...if the poem sucks then you can add all the bells and whistles you want, it will still suck...I will have to read the piece to decide.
This probably isn't the place for this, but since it is Idle is pants, it probably is:
Pandora's box- it was opened, letting out all the evil in the world. It was then slammed shut locking hope in.
If you want hope to be in the world, like all of the evil you just let out...shouldn't you open the box and let it out as well?
And that mouse (or rat if you will) will be Stainless Steel.
Old, but still valid look at the fact that there will always be people who WANT to live outside the norm, and push the boundaries of the acceptable by any means.
The Stainless Steel Rat. Look it up, at least the beginnings.
I don't know, I reread old comic books I have and sometimes wish/wonder if you can still buy some of the things in there.
Like the X-ray specs.
Those would have been awesome, if they worked.
Or even better the hazardous chemistry kits.
The real issue is the electoral college.
Popular vote should determine how many electoral votes you get. Each state currently has different rules on how the Electoral gets distributed- the really bogus states rule that if you win the popular vote you get all the electoral.
pop vote 51% = 100% of the electoral for that state.
Sensible states rule that you get a proportion.
pop vote 60% win = 60% of the electoral for that state.
This is why you can lose the popular vote and still win the election (I'm looking at Mr. Bush here...although he isn't the only president that won this way.).
So whoever ends up with 51% of the electoral, regardless of losing popular, wins.
So next time someone tells you every vote counts, it really depends on what state you are in. Until the electoral system is fixed nothing else will really help much.
more like freedom to be a jerk.
if you come to my house- i have the right to ask you to stop doing things that make me uncomfortable, and make you leave if you persist.
if you come to my job- my employer has similar rights, as do I as an idividual employed there.
if you are on the street- it is given that if you are not endangering people/yourself you have the right to do as you wish- if someone feels threatened by your actions they can ask you to stop or call the police to stop...if you persist, then you are infringing on them, not the other way around. Unreasonably asking someone to stop doing something like walking is just stupid- but if I don't want my picture taken that is my choice/right.
I applaud this guy (sarcasm) for proving he has no concern for others by ignoring requests repeatedly and feeling like he is a hero for continuing to ignore polite requests to the point they become impolite.
If you are not aware that some people do not like to be photographed, and that security does it's job to be vigilant about any threat they feel they see, then you don't pay attention to the news about people being shot at the AR democratic headquaters, on the grounds of schools, etc. Yes, they didn't take pictures, nor would they need to, but the overall world right now has lots of people worried. Why not be respectful, eh?
Ultimate meaning:
Yes, take pictures away and all that, but common courtesy when someone asks you to stop doing something just makes sense, you don't have to go out of your way to be nice...you do however to be an a-hole.
try a used book store- it's cheaper, supports local business, and the owners can usually recomend books in most genres as well.
and since you can get paperback for a buck or so it's not a huge risk if you try something and it stinks.
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Educating the children is probably the best way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCC8a6HMz4
Yeah, cartoons, science and some catchy music.
Doubt is fine, the problem is most people can't be bothered to educate themselves and think for themselves.
They would rather let a talking head (scientist, religious leader, etc) do their thinking and tell them which view point/idea has merit rather than being able to figure out what is correct, or more likely to be correct. Worse is that there is much closed mindedness in that people can't see any viewpoint but their own.
We, as a collective species, need to use our own brains and learn at least enough to intelligently follow a given discourse whether it be weather, law, or anything else.
Likelihood of that happening? 0%- although this forecast has been done without much scientific rigour.
But of course...they're already remaking everything imaginable.
It will be the remake of 2012.
"2012 II, this time it's for real!"
Sorry, I posted this. Needed to save my place while getting work done at the same time.
I am me, and I endorsed this message.
Look, unless many Bothans die to bring me this "vital" information, I am just not interested.
I measure the value of interest in Bothans/pg. I expect a high amount of Bothan deaths/pg of info. If we aren't talking at least 10 BD/p then I ain't interested.
However, this video was cool, if we can fix the shaky-cam somehow, even cooler.
I for one welcome our bovine overlor....wait, they're already here.
Moooove along, nothing new here.
I am going to have to call BS on this one. Two things: 1. Just because all your friends speak the same level of garbage doesn't make you more "Literate." It just means everyone you know speaks like an idiot. It's great that you speak to your audiences level, now let's raise the caliber of that general level. 2. While studying editing for my Degree in Writing (Business and Technical) I had to edit a paper from an Honors level student. I couldn't even understand what point he was trying to make. So, what papers, and from what colleges/universities was she reviewing? I've seen some doozies even up to last month. It's hard to edit for grammar and not touch the content when the content is a turd.
The reasons we teach this, and the reasons it is still important for EVERYONE to have a good general knowledge of things are: 1. Who knows what a child will take interest in, and will then cause them to follow something for life? Can you predict if a child will like physics or literature? No. You expose them to as much as possible and hope they find something in there that they are passionate about...if your choices are chocolate or vanilla, how would you ever know that strawberry is awesome? 2. Why is history important? It's just stuff that already happened...it is important because you can learn from past mistakes (in theory at least). It is important to have a general understanding of the world so you don't just stare at the sky grunting and wondering where this falling water comes from...if you don't know how things work, in general, you can be led like a sheep to follow some idiot without knowing they are wrong. It is important because if all you know is how to turn a screw then why don't we just replace you with a machine...it costs less and doesn't need benefits. However, it can't think of solutions like an intelligent, generally educated person could.
I would not agree- How much of the ideas and capabilities from the novel have either come to be, or close enough as makes no differece? This alone *should* make this a classic for the ages. I would love to argue that 1984 is more relevant today than say, The Great Gatsby, but with the economy where it is, I would have to admit Gatsby is again relevant (at least to me).
Not all schools have it as required reading. I read it on my own while in High School, and currently re-reading it. We were assigned Brave New World, but not 1984. Kind of odd. I wonder, when this goes to court, will it be tried in Room 101? And if he loses, will he be deleted, or re-educated.
"It is alleged the man was threatening police with a container of petrol and a cigarette lighter, and ignored repeated requests to stop, when he was shot." He had a lighter- now do the maths (? it's plural?) it is 50/50 whether the lighter caused it or the taser. Personally though, I think they should have arrested him for illegal use of a fire arm.
You must have played solo. Personally I always use the unabridged, family size version: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A Select Start. Nothing beats sucking for a level and starting to steal the other players lives.
By removing whatever competent lawyers remain for them it makes it even harder for them to win a case. It's win-win. RIAA loses the lawyers that enabled them to "win" these silly cases by stupid means, and the government gains a pitbull they can use to win cases. The only downside is if the pitbull/government go after cases that are not pro-human rights, common sense, etc. I leave that to be seen.
Out of torches in the dark you are likely to be eaten by a grue there is no chance of save betcha wish yuo had Burma Shave!
"Uranus as usual will just try to avoid attention since it always ends up with it being made fun of." You mean, since Uranus ends up as the butt of all jokes?
That is exactly the issue, but here is the catch to the whole thing. Marriage (the religious institution)- if I as a member of any/or all churches believe it is permissible (namely that my personal god permits it) then it is allowable under god. I.E a religious marriage is ok. Most people other than fundies would have no real issue seeing it this way. Because if I can't follow my own beliefs then why should you be able to follow yours, or vice versa (no religion gets to tell another religion what they can/can't do)? Basically I get the spiritual benefit of the marriage, but no legal parts. So guess what? You can not deny anyone the right to a religious marriage if they can find a priest, monk, or other "holy" figure that will marry them. - I am ordained and I will marry whoever I want. Marriage (the legal institution)- if I as a member of society marry a person we share all things (money, property, etc) unless things are spelled out in a prenuptual agreement we have to determine who gets what when we split. This is why divorce lawyers are usually involved, and why prenups even exist. Legally anyone over 18 (an adult) or who has the consent of their parents can enter a legally binding agreement. Look at any other legally bindig contract and it will have the same kind of things as a marriage- we agree to the following terms....blah, blah, blah. This is a contract- the government itself issues the contract (you have to get it from a government employee) and a ship captain (?seriously, why?), or a justice of the peace can perform this. Basically I get the legal benefits of a marriage, divorced (yeah I meant to use that) from the holy/religious aspects of it. We have this thing called seperation of church and state...no state sponsored religion...so see point above- if your religion does not deny it, laws don't deny it, and it doesn't say kill puppies or children, then it is permissible. The only beef anyone can throw at this is that sodomy laws exist on most state law books, but how many people get arrested for that if it is consenting? Problem solved, there is no legal, ethical way to deny people the right to marry another human...if you want to talk animals, that is another story as most cultures (most) look down on that. Polygamy would fall under this same thing by the way...multi-party contracts do exist. If everyone involved is cool with it and knows what happens when the divorce comes then why not? On the only flip side- degredation of family values...I'm not legally married...is my son really missing out on anything? There are stats that gay couple stay together more frequently (stats have been run on this)- think about it...if you can be killed (yes, it's happened) just for asking someone out, wouldn't you stay with someone rather than be trying to find another relationship. And ultimately, the only difference in upbringing should be that they are probably more open to other peoples. Lets face it evil people raise usually raise evil children, it doesn't matter who they hump.
Very good point, that could be why I haven't gone through with it...I dislike guerilla perfomance, where the performance becomes more of a point than the art. The idea would be akin to: if a tree falls in the forest and you aren't there does it make a noise...if a poem goes off in a crowd, and no one pays attention, is is still a poem? Bad art is still art...but it still sucks. Anything that makes one think beyond just the physical presentation (words, colors, sounds, etc.) should be art...but that is also in the eye of the beholder (or the beer holder).
Well, the pen is supposedly mightier than the sword. At least until you get run through. Although my login is a reference to Harry Harrison. Since I forgot my password and login for the last 2 I setup...should have posted more often.
As a poet, I find the idea interesting...I have debated a similar idea for a while (this is the first I have heard of this particular poem or idea). It really makes one think about what makes art. For example, if I read a poem while blaring an air horn so you can't hear it, then destroy the paper so it can't be reread, would that still be art? Does art inherently exist or must it be witnessed and understood to be art? My only beef with reproducing the piece without the "DRM" is that it defeats the uniqueness and umph that having it be a 1 read piece adds to it. Although, back to the original post and idea...if the poem sucks then you can add all the bells and whistles you want, it will still suck...I will have to read the piece to decide.
This probably isn't the place for this, but since it is Idle is pants, it probably is: Pandora's box- it was opened, letting out all the evil in the world. It was then slammed shut locking hope in. If you want hope to be in the world, like all of the evil you just let out...shouldn't you open the box and let it out as well?
And that mouse (or rat if you will) will be Stainless Steel.
Old, but still valid look at the fact that there will always be people who WANT to live outside the norm, and push the boundaries of the acceptable by any means.
The Stainless Steel Rat. Look it up, at least the beginnings.
I don't know, I reread old comic books I have and sometimes wish/wonder if you can still buy some of the things in there. Like the X-ray specs. Those would have been awesome, if they worked. Or even better the hazardous chemistry kits.
The real issue is the electoral college. Popular vote should determine how many electoral votes you get. Each state currently has different rules on how the Electoral gets distributed- the really bogus states rule that if you win the popular vote you get all the electoral. pop vote 51% = 100% of the electoral for that state. Sensible states rule that you get a proportion. pop vote 60% win = 60% of the electoral for that state. This is why you can lose the popular vote and still win the election (I'm looking at Mr. Bush here...although he isn't the only president that won this way.). So whoever ends up with 51% of the electoral, regardless of losing popular, wins. So next time someone tells you every vote counts, it really depends on what state you are in. Until the electoral system is fixed nothing else will really help much.
more like freedom to be a jerk. if you come to my house- i have the right to ask you to stop doing things that make me uncomfortable, and make you leave if you persist. if you come to my job- my employer has similar rights, as do I as an idividual employed there. if you are on the street- it is given that if you are not endangering people/yourself you have the right to do as you wish- if someone feels threatened by your actions they can ask you to stop or call the police to stop...if you persist, then you are infringing on them, not the other way around. Unreasonably asking someone to stop doing something like walking is just stupid- but if I don't want my picture taken that is my choice/right. I applaud this guy (sarcasm) for proving he has no concern for others by ignoring requests repeatedly and feeling like he is a hero for continuing to ignore polite requests to the point they become impolite. If you are not aware that some people do not like to be photographed, and that security does it's job to be vigilant about any threat they feel they see, then you don't pay attention to the news about people being shot at the AR democratic headquaters, on the grounds of schools, etc. Yes, they didn't take pictures, nor would they need to, but the overall world right now has lots of people worried. Why not be respectful, eh? Ultimate meaning: Yes, take pictures away and all that, but common courtesy when someone asks you to stop doing something just makes sense, you don't have to go out of your way to be nice...you do however to be an a-hole.
try a used book store- it's cheaper, supports local business, and the owners can usually recomend books in most genres as well. and since you can get paperback for a buck or so it's not a huge risk if you try something and it stinks.