The web already has four "major" browsers firefox, IE, safari and opera.
More precisely, the web already has four major rendering engines: Gecko (used in Firefox), Trident (used in IE), WebKit (used in Safari), and Presto (used in Opera). Chrome is using WebKit, so it can leverage WebKit's existing standards support and all the pages that already work with Safari.
Scripting is going to be different, but HTML/CSS should (in theory) be pretty similar to Safari.
I will be interested to see how much Firefox code is in Chrome... and down the line, how much Chrome code will be pulled into future versions of Firefox.
The ability to improve your codebase is one of the strengths of open source. This is a great opportunity to display that strength.
Even without open source, we're seeing a lot of concepts getting shared among browsers. IE8 and Chrome are picking up the full-history address bar search from Firefox and Opera. Chrome's new-tab page looks a lot like Opera's speed dial. When one browser tries something that works, the others are copying the concepts, and all of them end up better.
Just having multiple groups working on the same problems, each trying out different solutions, is helping innovation.
The FBI can decide whatever they want as far as their regulations are concerned, but if it gets to court, any evidence they gather illegally is useless.
Cynical response: What makes you so certain they'll bother with a trial?
Practical response: There's an awful lot that can be done to harass people without actually arresting, charging or prosecuting them.
It's not the same cartoon, but Spamusement ran for about two years taking spam subjects and illustrating them in ways that, in all probability, were not what the spammer intended to get across.
The official comic hasn't been updated in almost 2 years, but the archive is still up, and last I looked the forums had turned into a community of people doing unofficial strips.
You have to read in the whole thing to be able to check for a proper signature. If the signature checking was performed by sendmail, it woiuld too late to drop the connection by the time it figured out that the message didn't contain a proper PGP signature.
No, it wouldn't be too late. Among other things, we do spam checking during the SMTP session by having a milter (MIMEDefang) call out to SpamAssassin. SA needs the entire message, just like a PGP signature check would. The check is done after all the data is sent, but before we accept the message. If SA gives it a high enough score, we issue an SMTP reject instead of accepting it.
You could definitely do the same thing with PGP checks.
They have different business models on the desktop and on devices. The desktop browser is supported the same way Firefox is: through deals with search engines and the like. Opera Mini (the thin-client Java app for lower-end phones) is also free, but I'm not sure how they support that one.
I do think Opera's still stuck on the old "pay me for coding this for you" model. Given that their most-used products (Opera Mini and Opera Desktop) are free, what makes you think that?
Wonder why Opera's the least-used of the "major" browsers? I don't know, maybe there are a lot of people who didn't get the memo 3 years ago and still think they have to pay for it?
IIRC, the BIOS maker Phoenix had an embedded browser, so Mozilla's "Phoenix Browser" was considered misleading.
Close -- the BIOS maker was planning an embedded browser, which was pretty much vaporware at the time, but they insisted that Mozilla change the name anyway.
The funny thing is that by the time they actually shipped a product (5 years later), it ended up being an embedded Linux environment... running Firefox.
Easiest thing to do: locate your profile folder. Make a copy of it (or zip file, or tar archive, etc.) Upgrade to Firefox 3, and then if you don't like it, you can copy the original profile back after you uninstall.
There's a beta version of Firebug that's compatible with Firefox 3. Unfortunately it's not on the main addons site yet, and the Firebug site doesn't seem to be responding right now.
There are a couple of other classic buildings in the same square (rectangle?) as the leaning tower, but I'd never heard about them until I went there and saw them. So yeah, it's the tower that brings people in.
Since presumably my Firefox 2 will bug me to update to 3 as soon as it's released? I'd guess not, since Firefox 1.5 didn't try to upgrade people to Firefox 2 for several months.
unless of course you already used Opera or even Internet Explorer. Both have had this features for quite a while, in this case FF is sadly playing catchup. The GP is talking about a feature that puts a full history+bookmark search in the address bar, and learns from your browsing behavior so that frequently-visited pages appear earlier in the list. This is more than just auto-completing the first X characters of the URL, which every major browser (including Firefox) has done for a while.
To the best of my knowledge, IE does not have this. Opera has it (and searches page contents as well, though IMO Firefox's current UI makes it easier to spot pages at a glance), but only in the current 9.50 beta release.
IIRC, these features first appeared in Opera last September, and in Firefox last November (not counting nightly builds). I have no idea how long the idea has been in the works for each development team.
You're probably aware of this yourself, but there always seem to be a few people who haven't gotten the news, so if they're reading this...
Back when Opera was first released, most browsers did cost money. Even Netscape technically had a price tag for commercial use. (Though I suspect most people just downloaded it without paying.)
When Microsoft released IE for free, it destroyed the business model of selling a browser. Netscape scrambled, trying to find a new business model, and eventually was bought by AOL who invested in the browser as a bargaining chip against Microsoft. Opera tried things like putting ads in the toolbar.
Finally, in 2005, Opera dropped the price tag and ads entirely. Of course, Firefox's big boost came in 2004, so as far as marketshare was concerned, it was too little, too late.
The fact that its galled 'gimp'! I've noticed that Fedora has recently started referring to it as the GNU Image Manipulation Program in all its menus. Which is good for discoverability, but bad for me trying to open a file and still looking for a label with 4 letters instead of 4 words.
I recently read a science-fiction novel, Rollback by Robert J. Sawyer. Most of the book is about the social impact of rejuvenation technology, but the setup involves SETI, 4 decades after the first alien signal was received, decoded, responded to... and largely forgotten until the aliens' response arrives.
He is supposed to be getting on with an adaptation of H.P.Lovecraft's "At the Mountain's of Madness" Damn. While I was very happy to see that del Toro was officially on-board for The Hobbit...if it came down to that or At the Mountains of Madness, I'd rather cut the Hobbit loose.
Oh, so you can't eat grain? Or more simply, you can't eat soy? Actually, no, I can't. I'm allergic to soy. I can't eat tofu, or edamame, or textured vegetable protein.
Fortunately, by the time it's been metabolized by, say, a cow (or, apparently, fermented, since soy sauce doesn't cause me any problems), it's not an issue.
Firefox works as far back as Windows 95 IIRC? I installed Firefox on my uncle's Windows 98 box, the only issue was that the start bar title icon didn't show up properly but it ran. Firefox 2, yes, and it has some built-in phishing detection (though not support for EV certs). Firefox 3 uses some libraries that don't run on the Windows 95/98/Me series, and will only run on Windows 2000 or later.
I believe Opera will still run on the Win9x series, and Opera 9.5, like Firefox 3, will support EV certificates. They're apparently working up to a second beta any day now, so the final release could be out this summer. Opera's free as in beer, so it should be another option for your uncle's computer.
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However when I navigate here: http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html in the Chrome browser it fails.
It works fine when I try it. Windows XP, 32-bit, normal-sized fonts.
The web already has four "major" browsers firefox, IE, safari and opera.
More precisely, the web already has four major rendering engines: Gecko (used in Firefox), Trident (used in IE), WebKit (used in Safari), and Presto (used in Opera). Chrome is using WebKit, so it can leverage WebKit's existing standards support and all the pages that already work with Safari.
Scripting is going to be different, but HTML/CSS should (in theory) be pretty similar to Safari.
I will be interested to see how much Firefox code is in Chrome... and down the line, how much Chrome code will be pulled into future versions of Firefox.
The ability to improve your codebase is one of the strengths of open source. This is a great opportunity to display that strength.
Even without open source, we're seeing a lot of concepts getting shared among browsers. IE8 and Chrome are picking up the full-history address bar search from Firefox and Opera. Chrome's new-tab page looks a lot like Opera's speed dial. When one browser tries something that works, the others are copying the concepts, and all of them end up better.
Just having multiple groups working on the same problems, each trying out different solutions, is helping innovation.
i just hope they don't share the same rendering engine..
Chrome uses WebKit, so they don't. Or are you saying you hope Firefox doesn't switch to WebKit later on?
The FBI can decide whatever they want as far as their regulations are concerned, but if it gets to court, any evidence they gather illegally is useless.
Cynical response: What makes you so certain they'll bother with a trial?
Practical response: There's an awful lot that can be done to harass people without actually arresting, charging or prosecuting them.
Or maybe, I could care less, but I'd rather not make the effort.
It's not the same cartoon, but Spamusement ran for about two years taking spam subjects and illustrating them in ways that, in all probability, were not what the spammer intended to get across.
The official comic hasn't been updated in almost 2 years, but the archive is still up, and last I looked the forums had turned into a community of people doing unofficial strips.
You have to read in the whole thing to be able to check for a proper signature. If the signature checking was performed by sendmail, it woiuld too late to drop the connection by the time it figured out that the message didn't contain a proper PGP signature.
No, it wouldn't be too late. Among other things, we do spam checking during the SMTP session by having a milter (MIMEDefang) call out to SpamAssassin. SA needs the entire message, just like a PGP signature check would. The check is done after all the data is sent, but before we accept the message. If SA gives it a high enough score, we issue an SMTP reject instead of accepting it.
You could definitely do the same thing with PGP checks.
Close -- the BIOS maker was planning an embedded browser, which was pretty much vaporware at the time, but they insisted that Mozilla change the name anyway.IIRC, the BIOS maker Phoenix had an embedded browser, so Mozilla's "Phoenix Browser" was considered misleading.
The funny thing is that by the time they actually shipped a product (5 years later), it ended up being an embedded Linux environment... running Firefox.
You are aware that Opera hasn't had advertisements in the UI since 2005, right?
Easiest thing to do: locate your profile folder. Make a copy of it (or zip file, or tar archive, etc.) Upgrade to Firefox 3, and then if you don't like it, you can copy the original profile back after you uninstall.
There's a beta version of Firebug that's compatible with Firefox 3. Unfortunately it's not on the main addons site yet, and the Firebug site doesn't seem to be responding right now.
They both work fine for me on RC2... and did on RC1... and did on Beta5...
What's not working?
How do you feel about the fact that that you think they are the robot?
There are a couple of other classic buildings in the same square (rectangle?) as the leaning tower, but I'd never heard about them until I went there and saw them. So yeah, it's the tower that brings people in.
To the best of my knowledge, IE does not have this. Opera has it (and searches page contents as well, though IMO Firefox's current UI makes it easier to spot pages at a glance), but only in the current 9.50 beta release.
IIRC, these features first appeared in Opera last September, and in Firefox last November (not counting nightly builds). I have no idea how long the idea has been in the works for each development team.
You're probably aware of this yourself, but there always seem to be a few people who haven't gotten the news, so if they're reading this...
Back when Opera was first released, most browsers did cost money. Even Netscape technically had a price tag for commercial use. (Though I suspect most people just downloaded it without paying.)
When Microsoft released IE for free, it destroyed the business model of selling a browser. Netscape scrambled, trying to find a new business model, and eventually was bought by AOL who invested in the browser as a bargaining chip against Microsoft. Opera tried things like putting ads in the toolbar.
Finally, in 2005, Opera dropped the price tag and ads entirely. Of course, Firefox's big boost came in 2004, so as far as marketshare was concerned, it was too little, too late.
I recently read a science-fiction novel, Rollback by Robert J. Sawyer. Most of the book is about the social impact of rejuvenation technology, but the setup involves SETI, 4 decades after the first alien signal was received, decoded, responded to... and largely forgotten until the aliens' response arrives.
I really hope he can do both.
Fortunately, by the time it's been metabolized by, say, a cow (or, apparently, fermented, since soy sauce doesn't cause me any problems), it's not an issue.
I'll admit, my first thought as a lifelong Californian was, "What, only 5.2?"
Of course, when we get half an inch of rain here, the TV starts blathering about STORMWATCH 2008. It's all about what's typical for the region.
I believe Opera will still run on the Win9x series, and Opera 9.5, like Firefox 3, will support EV certificates. They're apparently working up to a second beta any day now, so the final release could be out this summer. Opera's free as in beer, so it should be another option for your uncle's computer.