I'd be more supportive if the Chrome devs just ditched their browser and offered the same functionality via Firefox mods (or code contributions). They could even replicate the Chrome UI in FF, for the many folks who like the de-cluttered style.
You obviously haven't the slightest clue about what makes Chrome such a revolutionary browser. Here, let me sum it up for you. Chrome has sandboxing features at every level of the application. Each tab runs in its own process in its own memory space, so if a tab crashes, the program as a whole remains stable. Each app within each tab also runs in its own process, so if Flash Player or Java crash, the tab as a whole remains stable. This memory handling nearly eliminates the possibility of memory leaks, because a tab's process is terminated (rendering its memory allocation empty) when you close a tab. Chrome uses WebKit, which is a very fast rendering engine on its own... but pair that with the javascript engine that Google wrote from scratch to be as fast and efficient as possible, and you get THE fastest graphical browser on the market at release date. I believe the betas of a couple browsers are faster than the current stable Chrome... but I'd like to see how this new beta Chrome holds up.
It is THAT, along with its open-sourcedness, and Google's announcements that their plan isn't to dominate the browser market, but to compete in it to promote more advanced browser technologies (remember that their services are AJAX, whose speed is more dependent upon engine efficiency than coding at this point) that make Chrome so great.
(Let it be known for the record that I used Chrome for about 4 months since it was released before I switched back to Firefox because of add-ons)
Still, that's beside the point. The USA has only a handful of main telecom companies that cover the entire nation. If we had only a couple in each state, and they were separate from the others in the other states, maybe your words would have some merit; but as it stands, they don't.
Okay. Technically, you're right, but that's still beside the point. This island we are on is many many times the size of these European countries rolfwind was talking about, and as such it takes much longer, costs much more money, and is logically more difficult to implement high-speed data connections in our lower-density areas. Add to that the fact that the lower-density areas are typically lower income and aren't as willing or able to pay for these higher-speed connections... it all adds up for the telecom companies.
Now, the old argument is population density one, but I feel that is a dead horse in many ways, with communities in Europe (Sweden) with comparable or lower density getting top notch speeds.
It's not just about population density... it's also about the sheer size of some of our low-density areas. The United States has areas twice the size of the UK with half the population density. Sure, if we were on an island and only had this small area to run wire all over the place, we would, but America is much bigger than the UK if you haven't noticed. It takes a longass time to get places wired, and certain areas have more priority than others in the race to high speed internet.
Will Joe Public be in position to notice them? The new engine might be indeed faster but I wonder whether an ordinary user will see a difference.
Who cares about Joe Public? This is just a simple update that happens to have a ton of changes, and they're only shifting the version to 3.5 for the sake of nerdy symbolism. Joe Public doesn't care. We don't need flashy new features to attract uninformed people to an automatic update... because... well... it's automatic.
..... why did they decide to become authors? It's a pretty well-known fact that becoming an author full-time, while fun if you like writing, is a pretty poor financial decision.
I find it kind of strange that a site as incredibly simple as Twitter had so much downtime. Granted, they probably don't have the multiple dedicated redundant datacenters to their name like MySpace and Facebook do... but still, they're only serving little tidbits of text.
The issue isn't that the woman doesn't want to pay for XP. She wants to get XP without paying for an unrelated and exta OS.
Welp. Sorry, but that's the way they're selling it. I'd like to get a PS3 without the hard drive so I can put my own in and save $50, but they don't sell them that way. Should I sue Sony?
Do you have to buy Terminator 2 to get Terminator 1?
No, but the thing is that the OEMs and Microsoft don't WANT to sell XP anymore... but there's a market for it. It's called supply and demand. Of course, there's as much supply as they feel like making, but if the demand is high, they're gonna raise the price as high as they can get away with... and so far looks to me like they can get away with the high prices, seeing how people keep paying the downgrade fees.
This lawsuit is a total joke, and if this woman wins it I will have even more concern for the current state of our judicial system that I already have. If she doesn't want to pay for her software, she should switch to Linux... that's the Slashdot philosophy anyway, isn't it?
Mod parent up. I'm thinking this story is falsified LOL EVERY1 SWITCH TO LINUX QUICK propaganda.
(Not that there's anything wrong with Linux... it's just that without any citations for this article, you 100%-Linux-All-The-Way-Fuck-Micro$oft guys look just as bad as the big corporations you work so hard to discredit.)
The issue is that they're effectively giving away Vista, while charging for XP.
So Microsoft isn't allowed to change their price scheme? Should they charge money for free buttons and hats they give you at conventions? Should they charge money for the public betas of their software? No. Windows XP is old. Very old. It costs Microsoft a lot of extra money to keep supporting it alongside Vista... and Ms Alvarado should be glad they still offer it for sale. Obviously she thinks XP is a better product, so why isn't she willing to pay more for it?
Well that's just the point of the antitrust case right there. I want applications to use the browser that I chose as default. Not the one that is declared default by the OS.
You obviously don't get it. These programs aren't using the default browser, they're using Internet Explorer. They are coded to embed the Internet Explorer framework. It doesn't work with other browsers.
On another note, why is it that any comment that doesn't say "MICRO$OFT $UCK$!!1! LINUX 4 LYFE!!!!!!!!!" gets modded down?
That wasn't a contradiction. Yes, many widely-used programs that have browser functionality use IE framework... and if you don't like that, then don't run those programs. But if IE were to suddenly disappear from Windows, those programs would be broken, and that would be no good.
How does a society that historically repressed individuality (aka "thinking for yourself") overcome these traditions and start to innovate (aka "thinking of NEW things")?
By constructing government-mandated R&D centers and forcing people to start innovating.
Who cares if IE is present on your computer? It doesn't pose a security risk if it's not running. And many widely-used programs use IE embedded in them (Steam, for instance), and I don't want to have to go download IE in order to be able to use it.
Chaos: Making a New Science by James Gleick is a pretty interesting math-related read. I couldn't make it all the way through it before my brain melted, but interesting nonetheless.
Apple is the king of installing background crap on your computer. (well, they are if you use their software on windows, at least)
Indeed. That's precisely the reason I do not have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer (and if somebody really wants to show me a quicktime-format video, I tell them to encode it to something else).
We all know Google runs Windows on all their computers... maybe this is their way of secretly getting back at Apple for all the trouble they've caused our RAM chips.
Classic move. People noticed. Two steps forward 10 steps back, eh? [emphasis added]
I can't tell if that's binary or decimal or what.
Given the choice, I'd say it's hexadecimal.
Seriously... look at my/. profile and you'll notice that I approve of Microsoft more often than not, but what they're doing here is utter bullshit. I don't want them fucking with things they have no business fucking with. Even though this extension is most likely harmless... they still shouldn't be installing it without one's express permission (checking the box that says "download and install all Windows updates automatically" != "fuck with firefox whenever you want, please").
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I'd be more supportive if the Chrome devs just ditched their browser and offered the same functionality via Firefox mods (or code contributions). They could even replicate the Chrome UI in FF, for the many folks who like the de-cluttered style.
You obviously haven't the slightest clue about what makes Chrome such a revolutionary browser. Here, let me sum it up for you. Chrome has sandboxing features at every level of the application. Each tab runs in its own process in its own memory space, so if a tab crashes, the program as a whole remains stable. Each app within each tab also runs in its own process, so if Flash Player or Java crash, the tab as a whole remains stable. This memory handling nearly eliminates the possibility of memory leaks, because a tab's process is terminated (rendering its memory allocation empty) when you close a tab. Chrome uses WebKit, which is a very fast rendering engine on its own... but pair that with the javascript engine that Google wrote from scratch to be as fast and efficient as possible, and you get THE fastest graphical browser on the market at release date. I believe the betas of a couple browsers are faster than the current stable Chrome... but I'd like to see how this new beta Chrome holds up.
It is THAT, along with its open-sourcedness, and Google's announcements that their plan isn't to dominate the browser market, but to compete in it to promote more advanced browser technologies (remember that their services are AJAX, whose speed is more dependent upon engine efficiency than coding at this point) that make Chrome so great.
(Let it be known for the record that I used Chrome for about 4 months since it was released before I switched back to Firefox because of add-ons)
Still, that's beside the point. The USA has only a handful of main telecom companies that cover the entire nation. If we had only a couple in each state, and they were separate from the others in the other states, maybe your words would have some merit; but as it stands, they don't.
You are on an island.
Okay. Technically, you're right, but that's still beside the point. This island we are on is many many times the size of these European countries rolfwind was talking about, and as such it takes much longer, costs much more money, and is logically more difficult to implement high-speed data connections in our lower-density areas. Add to that the fact that the lower-density areas are typically lower income and aren't as willing or able to pay for these higher-speed connections... it all adds up for the telecom companies.
If people would stop downloading free_porn.jpg from 4chan, renaming it to free_porn.exe, and running it... we would not be having these problems.
Or, hum, hey, how about leave it idle and advertise *maximum* battery life?
Umm... that's kind of what they already do.
Now, the old argument is population density one, but I feel that is a dead horse in many ways, with communities in Europe (Sweden) with comparable or lower density getting top notch speeds.
It's not just about population density... it's also about the sheer size of some of our low-density areas. The United States has areas twice the size of the UK with half the population density. Sure, if we were on an island and only had this small area to run wire all over the place, we would, but America is much bigger than the UK if you haven't noticed. It takes a longass time to get places wired, and certain areas have more priority than others in the race to high speed internet.
Then there could also be a matching "-1, Misuse of Meme"...
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Will Joe Public be in position to notice them? The new engine might be indeed faster but I wonder whether an ordinary user will see a difference.
Who cares about Joe Public? This is just a simple update that happens to have a ton of changes, and they're only shifting the version to 3.5 for the sake of nerdy symbolism. Joe Public doesn't care. We don't need flashy new features to attract uninformed people to an automatic update... because... well... it's automatic.
Sorry, I flipped them around. But the fact still stands that
You really shouldn't be using either.
Yeah, it's nice to attack McAfee, but what is YOUR alternative?
I had to stop using and installing Norton since it made systems unstable and crash.
Who's the dumbass that told you to use Norton instead of McAfee? You really shouldn't be using either.
..... why did they decide to become authors? It's a pretty well-known fact that becoming an author full-time, while fun if you like writing, is a pretty poor financial decision.
I find it kind of strange that a site as incredibly simple as Twitter had so much downtime. Granted, they probably don't have the multiple dedicated redundant datacenters to their name like MySpace and Facebook do... but still, they're only serving little tidbits of text.
The issue isn't that the woman doesn't want to pay for XP. She wants to get XP without paying for an unrelated and exta OS.
Welp. Sorry, but that's the way they're selling it. I'd like to get a PS3 without the hard drive so I can put my own in and save $50, but they don't sell them that way. Should I sue Sony?
Do you have to buy a PS3 to get a PS2?
Do you have to buy Terminator 2 to get Terminator 1?
No, but the thing is that the OEMs and Microsoft don't WANT to sell XP anymore... but there's a market for it. It's called supply and demand. Of course, there's as much supply as they feel like making, but if the demand is high, they're gonna raise the price as high as they can get away with... and so far looks to me like they can get away with the high prices, seeing how people keep paying the downgrade fees.
This lawsuit is a total joke, and if this woman wins it I will have even more concern for the current state of our judicial system that I already have. If she doesn't want to pay for her software, she should switch to Linux... that's the Slashdot philosophy anyway, isn't it?
Mod parent up. I'm thinking this story is falsified LOL EVERY1 SWITCH TO LINUX QUICK propaganda.
(Not that there's anything wrong with Linux... it's just that without any citations for this article, you 100%-Linux-All-The-Way-Fuck-Micro$oft guys look just as bad as the big corporations you work so hard to discredit.)
The issue is that they're effectively giving away Vista, while charging for XP.
So Microsoft isn't allowed to change their price scheme? Should they charge money for free buttons and hats they give you at conventions? Should they charge money for the public betas of their software? No. Windows XP is old. Very old. It costs Microsoft a lot of extra money to keep supporting it alongside Vista... and Ms Alvarado should be glad they still offer it for sale. Obviously she thinks XP is a better product, so why isn't she willing to pay more for it?
Well that's just the point of the antitrust case right there. I want applications to use the browser that I chose as default. Not the one that is declared default by the OS.
You obviously don't get it. These programs aren't using the default browser, they're using Internet Explorer. They are coded to embed the Internet Explorer framework. It doesn't work with other browsers.
On another note, why is it that any comment that doesn't say "MICRO$OFT $UCK$!!1! LINUX 4 LYFE!!!!!!!!!" gets modded down?
Did you mean to purposely contradict yourself?
That wasn't a contradiction. Yes, many widely-used programs that have browser functionality use IE framework... and if you don't like that, then don't run those programs. But if IE were to suddenly disappear from Windows, those programs would be broken, and that would be no good.
How does a society that historically repressed individuality (aka "thinking for yourself") overcome these traditions and start to innovate (aka "thinking of NEW things")?
By constructing government-mandated R&D centers and forcing people to start innovating.
Who cares if IE is present on your computer? It doesn't pose a security risk if it's not running. And many widely-used programs use IE embedded in them (Steam, for instance), and I don't want to have to go download IE in order to be able to use it.
'We ran a study which suggested that the average consumer has open just over two applications [at any time].'
Microsoft obviously hasn't seen my system tray.
Chaos: Making a New Science by James Gleick is a pretty interesting math-related read. I couldn't make it all the way through it before my brain melted, but interesting nonetheless.
Or if they do, they'll turn off their phone.
Don't forget that the government can track you with your phone of- OH GOD THEY'RE HERE BRB
Apple is the king of installing background crap on your computer. (well, they are if you use their software on windows, at least)
Indeed. That's precisely the reason I do not have iTunes or Quicktime installed on my computer (and if somebody really wants to show me a quicktime-format video, I tell them to encode it to something else).
We all know Google runs Windows on all their computers... maybe this is their way of secretly getting back at Apple for all the trouble they've caused our RAM chips.
Classic move. People noticed. Two steps forward 10 steps back, eh? [emphasis added]
I can't tell if that's binary or decimal or what.
Given the choice, I'd say it's hexadecimal.
Seriously... look at my /. profile and you'll notice that I approve of Microsoft more often than not, but what they're doing here is utter bullshit. I don't want them fucking with things they have no business fucking with. Even though this extension is most likely harmless... they still shouldn't be installing it without one's express permission (checking the box that says "download and install all Windows updates automatically" != "fuck with firefox whenever you want, please").