All great questions but what I really want to know is how can I get my hands on it and will it run on my Athlon? I'm also running FreeBSD 4.1 on here so I could start the thread if you would like.
1. Will it run on my dual PPro 200 box? (software decoding would be a joke if it doesn't use both CPU's)
2. Will it work with my Atheos setup?
(I'm sure that there are 10's of people wanting this one)
3. Will it work with a bewoulf cluster?
(I have several Pentium 133-233's in the closet and it would be great to spread the decoding among them)
I could go on about BeOS, Plan9, Eros, NeXT and many other OS's but I don't have any non-x86 hardware to whine about. I've considered buying a used G3 just to play with but haven't done it yet so I will have to leave it others. I know you were trolling but I just got back from a trip and am in a mood.
Oh great! I just had a hardware failure on my door and then a core dump. I'm going to have to use my ARM Linux powered ax(runs cooler than an Alph a and cheaper than a MIPS) to get out of here.
Looks interesting. Too bad you need their $200.00 Netstream card although there are beta drivers for Hollywood Plus at Freshmeat. You also need a REALmagic Remote Control or go again to Freshmeat for a free alternative. Has anyone any experience with this player?
I'd order a copy of Intervideo's player today if they would just produce it. I'm also waiting to get a look at the DVD plugin for QNX when it is released too
Several farmers I know here in Nebraska have degrees and a few have multiple degrees. Most farmers I know have satelite receivers for watching the livestock/grain markets like Wallstreet watches the Stock Market. I grew up on the farm but got hooked on computers when they brought a Commodore w/ a tape drive to my classroom when I was 8. It took 10 of my fifteen minutes to load anything from the tape but I loved it. I worked on the farm during the day and learned computers at night. You have to be dedicated to become a geek when you work on a farm and have football/basketball/track practice too. I decked my computer out as much as possible. I had an Apple IIgs in Junior High that had MIDI keyboard, 60MB external HD, battery backed-up RAM disk, 1.75Mb RAM, Phasor sound card, etc.. I used to do computer consulting for people around the neighboring towns when I was 13. I later went on to college and now have several certifications (MS, Vinca Clustering, etc.). The school I went to wasn't to big into Unix so I've been picking that up for the last 3 years or so. I wish I had gotten into it sooner but I'm making up for lost time now(Oh well).
We have it here in central Nebraska. I live in a town of 40k+ (this gives away where I live if you know anything about Nebraska) and a local ISP is doing wireless T1 off the grain elevator for $250/mo. Another ISP is doing home brew style DSL for $200/mo for 768k. Both of these are a little steep for my house(don't think I haven't talked about it with my wife though). At work we switched to Broadwing Communications for all our data/voice. There where some complications that started with USWest(now Qwest) and made the switchover last months and lots of headaches for us. They want to make things good so I thought I would take advantage of the situation. They have a local POP for dialup and have agreed to let me do SDSL to my house for under $50/mo. I may end up buying the 2 modems for both ends of the line but it would be worth it to me. Don't give up, there are solutions out there if you look for them and have some patience.
the distro won't even work for i386 machines as they've removed support for that to optimize it
They didn't remove support but they added support for 586 and up which is not supported by 386/486. A small detail. There are worse things than Mandrake 7.x servers. We have NT 4.0 servers at work and are looking at Win2000 and Citrix Metaframe. This is going to be a lot of work:( On a sidenote, If you have to run NT servers then check out Vinca/Legato's Co-Standby Server for failover. They were doing failover protection on a 2 node cluster while Microsoft was still just talking about it.
True, but Mandrake but this second release since Redhat's last one. MD7.0 came out before RH6.2 and went on to release MD7.1 (my current distro w/ Freebsd4.1) and now MD7.2beta.
Makes me want to change my sig to a Bible verse too. You must really be confident with your position if you are set off by an innocent sig. I believe that sigs are great and I enjoy the variety we have here.
Don't use a large AGP aperture, turn up latency timers, give the memory a couple extra clocks, etc. Maybe you don't understand what the bios does or perhaps you are just flaming for fun. There are quite a few things you can do to improve performance while running at the rated clock/bus speeds.
Consider me a nobody then. People have made some of the kind of comments about Linux too but times have changed. Can't crack it if you can't find an install to crack. Most of the Unices have similar security methods and can be locked down to similar levels depending on what is installed. The real complaint should be what is installed and what doors are left open. It wouldn't do you much good to install the latest patched up ftp server and then put the root at / with write access. If we were talking about how Atheos hasn't been cracked then maybe your comment would be a little more valid.
According to the site it will come with demos for Q3, UT and Redline Racer. It also comes with Renderware 3 which would allow for some cool games to be built. This has possiblities for console type systems. Add in the DVD plugin and it could be a versatile gaming platform. This all depends on the developers liking it and picking it up. BeOS seemed to be helped some by releasing but not as much as they hoped at least yet (we will see). I hope QNX gets a big shot in the arm from this. I can't wait to see how this will work on older hardware like my old 486 Thinkpad. Might be a nice little setup
From Atheos website "Qt GUI toolkit. (Only the 'tools' part needed to port Doxygen)". I wonder if Trolltech is aware of this. I need to dig deeper into the license to see if this is allowed.
I bought a couple of these controllers for $10.00 each(pulls). I have DVD, CDRW, 2 HDs and a Zip and this works pretty slick. The zip is the only thing hooked to the controller right now but I'm not done yet. I will find out tonight if it works good with FreeBSD 4.1 when I get home tonight.
Because Nvidia is much worse about binary drivers. ATI could be another alternative depending on what your are looking for. Matrox has given back to Linux and they are working on doing more but it would really suck if they did something stupid like releasing things they license from other people. Let them work out the legal details so they can do it right. I'd hate to see any company get shutdown because of legal problems just so you can have source. Ok, I might cry less if I didn't see another Trident or Savage chipset but I still would some. Just be patient with these companies. It takes a lot of work to turn one of these big ships and I believe that Matrox is coming on around. Hopefully Nvidia is making the swing too but it will take time to work out the legal issues. Have faith.
The links are all good. The troll is our helpful find. I thought I would find his improved links on his post. Maybe he just saw glx in the address and assumed.cx.
I would like to see them port to Atheos OS. It is Unixish without using X. I'd like to see what kind of performance is possible or if the whiners of X are just that(whiners).
Granite is a terrible heat sink. Heat sinks are designed to conduct heat and take it away from the critical component. Granite make a nice insulator which would hold the heat to the critical component.
Yet OS9 barely can tell there is another CPU in there. He is talking about software taking advantage of it. SMP PPC boards have been around but software still barely takes advantage of it if does anything with it at all.
Thanks for letting me know after the fact. I bought a Asus K7M for Christmas and it has been rock solid so I.......never mind, you just rant on. I only buy quality parts for my systems, none of that generic stuff for me. I have always done that with my Intel systems too. If you do this, don't overclock and load reliable device drivers then your system will be stable too no matter which chip is under the hood.
I've seen way too many people buying bargin hardware, not properly grounding their system, install every piece of beta software they can get there hands on and then they blame the OS/Hardware for being a piece of junk. Just because you can slap the parts together and get it to post doesn't make you any good at computers. Lockups don't make a successful overclock. I can run my Athlon in UT for hours and I quit when I'm ready not because of a lockup.
their performance over Pentiums is negligible
You need to check you tests again because Thunderbirds have a pretty good margin on the PIII and even if they were tied I would rather have a cheaper chip that I can actually get my hands on.
There were Motorola routers here at work when I started. They were purchased when this was a Novell network. Later the network was moved to NT on TCP/IP. They did have some nice voice over IP features but they are not as nice as the Cisco's we currently have. They are for sale if anyone is interested. (1) 6560 and (9) 6520
I can stop correcting people when they say that Maya is available for Linux. I have to keep reminding them that it is only the renderer. Those days are over and about time too. Now maybe we can get NT off that box for my brother-in-law. Does anyone know which OpenGL cards it will support under Linux?? I'm particularlly wondering about 3dlabs Oxygen RPM. It does work very well with Maya under NT as long as NT doesn't decide to shell out.
2 different boards though similar. Asus K7V is slota and uses KX133 chipset and A7V is socketa and uses KT133 chipset. One these boards will probably be in my next system.
I bought a Pentium 75Mhz 5 years ago and 133Mhz was on the shelf. I later upgraded the video to a Matrox Mystique 220. It came with Motoracer and I couldn't win a race to save my life. I started bumping the bus speed from 50Mhz and ended up on 66Mhz. I was now running an O/C P75 @100Mhz and the video was working great. The first game I played after bumping the bus, I blew the field out of the water after struggling for so long. I have tinkered with overclocking since then but now I run the heatsinks, grease and case fans to keep my rated clocked CPU's running cool and stable. Windows crashes are few and far between for me.
I build a lot of systems for people and make them deals on my old CPU's some I frequently go up. "I'll make you a deal on the 500Mhz Athlon so I can buy a Thunderbird" and so on. Overclocking doesn't pull me very much when I can keep my CPU speed up there pretty good. My wife had some surgery awhile back so I haven't upgraded since the Athlon 500Mhz but it is getting to be time again.
I used to work at a computer store testing returned equipment. You be surprised how much stuff is obviously O/Ced and messed up by ignorance.
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All great questions but what I really want to know is how can I get my hands on it and will it run on my Athlon? I'm also running FreeBSD 4.1 on here so I could start the thread if you would like.
1. Will it run on my dual PPro 200 box? (software decoding would be a joke if it doesn't use both CPU's)
2. Will it work with my Atheos setup?
(I'm sure that there are 10's of people wanting this one)
3. Will it work with a bewoulf cluster?
(I have several Pentium 133-233's in the closet and it would be great to spread the decoding among them)
I could go on about BeOS, Plan9, Eros, NeXT and many other OS's but I don't have any non-x86 hardware to whine about. I've considered buying a used G3 just to play with but haven't done it yet so I will have to leave it others. I know you were trolling but I just got back from a trip and am in a mood.
I'd order a copy of Intervideo's player today if they would just produce it. I'm also waiting to get a look at the DVD plugin for QNX when it is released too
At work we switched to Broadwing Communications for all our data/voice. There where some complications that started with USWest(now Qwest) and made the switchover last months and lots of headaches for us. They want to make things good so I thought I would take advantage of the situation. They have a local POP for dialup and have agreed to let me do SDSL to my house for under $50/mo. I may end up buying the 2 modems for both ends of the line but it would be worth it to me. Don't give up, there are solutions out there if you look for them and have some patience.
They didn't remove support but they added support for 586 and up which is not supported by 386/486. A small detail. There are worse things than Mandrake 7.x servers. We have NT 4.0 servers at work and are looking at Win2000 and Citrix Metaframe. This is going to be a lot of work :( On a sidenote, If you have to run NT servers then check out Vinca/Legato's Co-Standby Server for failover. They were doing failover protection on a 2 node cluster while Microsoft was still just talking about it.
True, but Mandrake but this second release since Redhat's last one. MD7.0 came out before RH6.2 and went on to release MD7.1 (my current distro w/ Freebsd4.1) and now MD7.2beta.
Makes me want to change my sig to a Bible verse too. You must really be confident with your position if you are set off by an innocent sig. I believe that sigs are great and I enjoy the variety we have here.
Don't use a large AGP aperture, turn up latency timers, give the memory a couple extra clocks, etc. Maybe you don't understand what the bios does or perhaps you are just flaming for fun. There are quite a few things you can do to improve performance while running at the rated clock/bus speeds.
Consider me a nobody then. People have made some of the kind of comments about Linux too but times have changed. Can't crack it if you can't find an install to crack. Most of the Unices have similar security methods and can be locked down to similar levels depending on what is installed. The real complaint should be what is installed and what doors are left open. It wouldn't do you much good to install the latest patched up ftp server and then put the root at / with write access. If we were talking about how Atheos hasn't been cracked then maybe your comment would be a little more valid.
According to the site it will come with demos for Q3, UT and Redline Racer. It also comes with Renderware 3 which would allow for some cool games to be built. This has possiblities for console type systems. Add in the DVD plugin and it could be a versatile gaming platform. This all depends on the developers liking it and picking it up. BeOS seemed to be helped some by releasing but not as much as they hoped at least yet (we will see). I hope QNX gets a big shot in the arm from this. I can't wait to see how this will work on older hardware like my old 486 Thinkpad. Might be a nice little setup
From Atheos website "Qt GUI toolkit. (Only the 'tools' part needed to port Doxygen)". I wonder if Trolltech is aware of this. I need to dig deeper into the license to see if this is allowed.
I bought a couple of these controllers for $10.00 each(pulls). I have DVD, CDRW, 2 HDs and a Zip and this works pretty slick. The zip is the only thing hooked to the controller right now but I'm not done yet. I will find out tonight if it works good with FreeBSD 4.1 when I get home tonight.
Because Nvidia is much worse about binary drivers. ATI could be another alternative depending on what your are looking for. Matrox has given back to Linux and they are working on doing more but it would really suck if they did something stupid like releasing things they license from other people. Let them work out the legal details so they can do it right. I'd hate to see any company get shutdown because of legal problems just so you can have source. Ok, I might cry less if I didn't see another Trident or Savage chipset but I still would some. Just be patient with these companies. It takes a lot of work to turn one of these big ships and I believe that Matrox is coming on around. Hopefully Nvidia is making the swing too but it will take time to work out the legal issues. Have faith.
The links are all good. The troll is our helpful find. I thought I would find his improved links on his post. Maybe he just saw glx in the address and assumed .cx.
I would like to see them port to Atheos OS. It is Unixish without using X. I'd like to see what kind of performance is possible or if the whiners of X are just that(whiners).
You could try a slot drive CD/DVD Rom. I have a Pioneer slot loading DVD and it works great.
Granite is a terrible heat sink. Heat sinks are designed to conduct heat and take it away from the critical component. Granite make a nice insulator which would hold the heat to the critical component.
Thanks for letting me know after the fact. I bought a Asus K7M for Christmas and it has been rock solid so I .......never mind, you just rant on. I only buy quality parts for my systems, none of that generic stuff for me. I have always done that with my Intel systems too. If you do this, don't overclock and load reliable device drivers then your system will be stable too no matter which chip is under the hood.
I've seen way too many people buying bargin hardware, not properly grounding their system, install every piece of beta software they can get there hands on and then they blame the OS/Hardware for being a piece of junk. Just because you can slap the parts together and get it to post doesn't make you any good at computers. Lockups don't make a successful overclock. I can run my Athlon in UT for hours and I quit when I'm ready not because of a lockup.
their performance over Pentiums is negligible
You need to check you tests again because Thunderbirds have a pretty good margin on the PIII and even if they were tied I would rather have a cheaper chip that I can actually get my hands on.
I build a lot of systems for people and make them deals on my old CPU's some I frequently go up. "I'll make you a deal on the 500Mhz Athlon so I can buy a Thunderbird" and so on. Overclocking doesn't pull me very much when I can keep my CPU speed up there pretty good. My wife had some surgery awhile back so I haven't upgraded since the Athlon 500Mhz but it is getting to be time again.
I used to work at a computer store testing returned equipment. You be surprised how much stuff is obviously O/Ced and messed up by ignorance.