You are EXACTLY right, my friend. This kind of power has always been available. I can't help but believe that a lot of the screams of pain are due to the popularity of hating on anything attached to 'The Bush Administration'. Logic and reason are allowed to go out the window in these cases.
Someone said in a different thread but on this same topic that if you don't want something read or discovered by the Saigon-mirror-sunglasses pencil-neck TSA people...don't physically carry it across the border through customs.
Running a business is not a social experiment where the business sits around hand wringing over whether or not they are living up to some nebulous ideal that some of it's customers may or may not have in their pea brains.
They exist to make money. Period. Note that I'm not saying 'make money at any cost'.
My comment to those griping about eBay negating the fees for the bigger customers: Get over it. This happens every day and it's how commerce works. Don't like this policy? Don't use eBay.
This is no different than someone going in to Costco and getting a discount for buying the same bacon you can buy down the street.
Everyone loves to get a discount for themselves but they get pissy when they see someone else getting one. [rolls eyes]
Typical leftist. Intead of discussing the issue, you have to turn it into personal attacks.
But you've touched on yet another double standard. Using 'a bunch of desert' or clear cutting in the woods for these fly-by-night ideas somehow escapes any criticism from the usual special interest environmental groups (or at least not at the shrieking volumes we are accustomed to). But, dare we suggest that we should drill for oil in ANWAR and we get a virtual eruption of freakish yelling at the mere act of entertaining the thought.
Do try to to be civil. It's so unseemly in front of the kids.
Modern wind turbines are neither shaped like a propeller, nor do they operate at high speeds. Consequently, they don't make much noise, either.
Try living NEXT to one, as I have, and then you can cry FUD. Also, are you claiming that this supposedly low speed they operate at won't kill everything that comes in contact with it? Don't be absurd.
I just love how the alternative energy crowd, the same people that have a coronary over things like the Alaskan pipeline disturbing the delicate wildlife movements and oil spills that supposedly destroy every pristine shoreline known to man every 3 seconds, have noooo problem with snatching up miles of public (or at times private) land and plopping down hundreds or thousands of giant propellers and then pretend that it doesn't have any impact on that same delicate wildlife. Or they find a way to shrug it off. How convenient.
This constant drum beat for wind power is total crap, however
-For starters, for the majority of the area of the US, you can't depend on enough wind with the necessary velocity to sustain the necessary RPM's on the turbine. Think what you want about 'big energy', but, if there was a way for them to essentially generate FREE power don't you think they'd be putting up freaking towers like a madman? But they don't. Because it won't fill the need.
-Second, so many of those crying 'wind power' always want to plop them down on top of a building, or near a residential area. WRONG. Those wind turbines are LOUD. Let me put one in your back yard and you'll run screaming from the house in less than 24hrs.
Not to mention destroying what view you may have. And speaking of destroy, ask the bird population how much they like us sticking a bunch of food processor blades into the air?
Don't forget to mention that it is a DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress.
Yeah, by like 2 votes. Bush will veto anything he doesn't like, and the Dems can't get anything passed by a veto-proof margin.
You're missing the point. You leftist need to let go of your rage toward Bush, it warps your thinking.
A Democratic controlled congress made this bill happen folks. Bush didn't make them do this. The can-do-no-wrong Senator Obama(D) also voted for it.
...more like anarchy.
I don't know why I still get surprised when punk comments like this get modded 'insightful'.
'They' would wouldn't BE anywhere. Since it seems you think no one should ever earn a profit (e.g. 'pirate everything') while running a business, YOU would be forced to make your skater do-rags from palm-tree fronds and any movies you watched would consist of a light bulb (the yummy, warm incandescent kind) and a hand making animal shadows on a wall.
Wrong. Once you step on US soil, your 'rights' are viewed through the lens of US laws.
This may suck from your point of view, but this is reality. And, at the risk of being overly blunt, if this bothers you, don't come here.
I for one am not concerned in the slightest about issues like this one curtailing tourism to the US despite the hand wringing and whining already on display in this thread. We seem to have the OPPOSITE problem of too many people banging down the doors to get in here at all costs.
What 'change' are you people expecting? I've seen many posts alluding to this almost euphoric Change that will occur if Obama in the White House yet I've seen almost no official statement or speech of what this 'change' will be. He speaks words that amount to nothing.
It's as if you Obama acolytes have hired him as a general contractor, who has never built anything in his life, to do some work on your house. Instead of giving him (or getting) specific details of what he's about to do to your home, you say, 'Surprise me'.
Of course, no one does this in real life...till now...and the house is actually the country.
'Irresponsible' doesn't describe it strongly enough.
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You are EXACTLY right, my friend. This kind of power has always been available. I can't help but believe that a lot of the screams of pain are due to the popularity of hating on anything attached to 'The Bush Administration'. Logic and reason are allowed to go out the window in these cases.
Someone said in a different thread but on this same topic that if you don't want something read or discovered by the Saigon-mirror-sunglasses pencil-neck TSA people...don't physically carry it across the border through customs.
You've hit the nail on the head.
Running a business is not a social experiment where the business sits around hand wringing over whether or not they are living up to some nebulous ideal that some of it's customers may or may not have in their pea brains.
They exist to make money. Period.
Note that I'm not saying 'make money at any cost'.
My comment to those griping about eBay negating the fees for the bigger customers: Get over it. This happens every day and it's how commerce works. Don't like this policy? Don't use eBay.
This is no different than someone going in to Costco and getting a discount for buying the same bacon you can buy down the street. Everyone loves to get a discount for themselves but they get pissy when they see someone else getting one. [rolls eyes]
You're an ass.
Typical leftist. Intead of discussing the issue, you have to turn it into personal attacks.
But you've touched on yet another double standard. Using 'a bunch of desert' or clear cutting in the woods for these fly-by-night ideas somehow escapes any criticism from the usual special interest environmental groups (or at least not at the shrieking volumes we are accustomed to). But, dare we suggest that we should drill for oil in ANWAR and we get a virtual eruption of freakish yelling at the mere act of entertaining the thought.
Do try to to be civil. It's so unseemly in front of the kids.
FUD, FUD, FUD.
Modern wind turbines are neither shaped like a propeller, nor do they operate at high speeds. Consequently, they don't make much noise, either.
Try living NEXT to one, as I have, and then you can cry FUD. Also, are you claiming that this supposedly low speed they operate at won't kill everything that comes in contact with it? Don't be absurd.
I just love how the alternative energy crowd, the same people that have a coronary over things like the Alaskan pipeline disturbing the delicate wildlife movements and oil spills that supposedly destroy every pristine shoreline known to man every 3 seconds, have noooo problem with snatching up miles of public (or at times private) land and plopping down hundreds or thousands of giant propellers and then pretend that it doesn't have any impact on that same delicate wildlife. Or they find a way to shrug it off. How convenient.
I agree with your call for more nuclear power. It's the cleanest power source at our disposal. Even the founder of Greenpeace says so. MORE NUKES, MORE NUKES.
This constant drum beat for wind power is total crap, however
-For starters, for the majority of the area of the US, you can't depend on enough wind with the necessary velocity to sustain the necessary RPM's on the turbine. Think what you want about 'big energy', but, if there was a way for them to essentially generate FREE power don't you think they'd be putting up freaking towers like a madman? But they don't. Because it won't fill the need.
-Second, so many of those crying 'wind power' always want to plop them down on top of a building, or near a residential area. WRONG. Those wind turbines are LOUD. Let me put one in your back yard and you'll run screaming from the house in less than 24hrs.
Not to mention destroying what view you may have. And speaking of destroy, ask the bird population how much they like us sticking a bunch of food processor blades into the air?
Don't forget to mention that it is a DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress.
Yeah, by like 2 votes. Bush will veto anything he doesn't like, and the Dems can't get anything passed by a veto-proof margin.
You're missing the point. You leftist need to let go of your rage toward Bush, it warps your thinking. A Democratic controlled congress made this bill happen folks. Bush didn't make them do this. The can-do-no-wrong Senator Obama(D) also voted for it.
Don't forget to mention that it is a DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress.
...more like anarchy. I don't know why I still get surprised when punk comments like this get modded 'insightful'.
'They' would wouldn't BE anywhere.
Since it seems you think no one should ever earn a profit (e.g. 'pirate everything') while running a business, YOU would be forced to make your skater do-rags from palm-tree fronds and any movies you watched would consist of a light bulb (the yummy, warm incandescent kind) and a hand making animal shadows on a wall.
Wrong. Once you step on US soil, your 'rights' are viewed through the lens of US laws.
This may suck from your point of view, but this is reality. And, at the risk of being overly blunt, if this bothers you, don't come here.
I for one am not concerned in the slightest about issues like this one curtailing tourism to the US despite the hand wringing and whining already on display in this thread. We seem to have the OPPOSITE problem of too many people banging down the doors to get in here at all costs.
What 'change' are you people expecting? I've seen many posts alluding to this almost euphoric Change that will occur if Obama in the White House yet I've seen almost no official statement or speech of what this 'change' will be. He speaks words that amount to nothing.
It's as if you Obama acolytes have hired him as a general contractor, who has never built anything in his life, to do some work on your house. Instead of giving him (or getting) specific details of what he's about to do to your home, you say, 'Surprise me'.
Of course, no one does this in real life...till now...and the house is actually the country.
'Irresponsible' doesn't describe it strongly enough.