but the first thing that ran across my mind is that this poor bastard is going to end up in court because some pervert used him to anonymously download kiddy porn off of the net.
those specs are not surprising. If you look at today's "Average" PC and factor in 6 years of technological progress that seems to be what most people will think of as upper middle range in 2010.
One decision is based on a personal preference for type of installer and the other is based on an irrational "religious" viewpoint of what "shall and shalt not" be included in a distro.
Both are based on a preference. Just because you find one of those preferences to be more reasonable doesn't make the other preference any less valid.
My grandfather was surprised when we sat down and came up with a very rough estimate of his lifetime earnings.
He was a steelworker for 37 years. I asked him if he earned 50,000 dollars for 20 or more of those years. He of course had, boom, one million out of the way! With all of his earnings during that time and before he had earned nearly 2 million dollars over the course of his lifetime.
No, he said it would be dumb for someone to specifically NOT want the graphical installer. Like, you wouldnt use the distro because of the fact that it has a graphical installer.
That's no dumber than the people who won't consider a distro that doesn't have one.
Clarity of the install. An installer need not be graphical to be clear. Remember Red Hat's old installer? Not graphical, but clear and easy to use.
Initial setup of hardware. Mandrake does a bang up job of detecting and setting up your hardware. Red Hat did a great job of detecting my hardware as well. Slackware couldn't even set up my USB keyboard.
Install/Upgrading of packages. The first time you run into an issue of dependency that goes more than 5 or 6 levels deep, you'll HATE life. And when you hit lib hell you'll want to murder someone.
After you take the time to get the machine up and running the way you like it, most distros are not much different. (sure different distros put config files and whatnot in different places)
I guess the point comes down to what you want to do. If you want to learn as much as possible and *NIX, use Slackware. If you want to get set up quickly and easily, use Mandrake. If you want to keep your packages as current as possible, use Debian. If you want all of your software to be tuned to your hardware, use Gentoo. If you need something more specialized, look into one of the more specialized distros.
Well I guess that this means we shouldn't be eating meals off our shower curtains.
Think about it for a minute. You get into the shower when you're dirty. Water splashes off of your skin. Some of that splash ends up on the shower curtain. Is anyone really surprised by the fact that there are bacteria on the shower curtain.
Always is a powerful word. Nothing is totally secure.
Then you need to read up on quantum cryptography.
An attacker may be able to intercept a bit or two out of the message but because these are single photons if you intercept one it will be obvious that someone has intercepted the photon.
Because you can never be 100% sure of the position of the photon it would take a fair bit of trial and error just to intercept one and all of those other photons that you blocked in your attempt to catch one will be missed by the recipient of the message.
Remember the difference between the words "safe" and "secure" when dealing with crypto. The transmission may not be secure, because it is possible to intercept some of the photons involved. Transmission is safe because no one can intercept it without tipping you off.
The Western business-minded viewpoint would factor in contracts, heavy industry, materials, and all the like into costs, whereas a more simple society would just get a ton of unskilled workers out there to assemble the project (instead of relying on earth moving equipment).
And these people would often be willing to do it for free. They were farmers, they needed to move their oxen, buffalo and goats (ok, I made up the goats part) across the river as well. They were helping themselves at the same time.
The injustices that I have faced at the hands of "law enforcement" are nothing compared to Kevin's, and as a result of that treatment I wouldn't turn in anyone for an offense short of a rape/murder/kiddy porn traffic.
I was driving home from work one day during a flash flood. The bridge that I needed to take was closed because some jackass in a semi truck recked in the storm. I had to drive through a lower elevation and the water was so deep that it got sucked into my air cleaner. In fact it was only an inch or two below my window. My car stalled because of the water in the air filter.
Pushing a Camaro out of 2.5 feet deep flowing water REALLY sucks.
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but the first thing that ran across my mind is that this poor bastard is going to end up in court because some pervert used him to anonymously download kiddy porn off of the net.
LK
I guess that could be a man's hand, but more striking is that to me it looks like it has "Jesus of Sweden" written on it.
LK
those specs are not surprising. If you look at today's "Average" PC and factor in 6 years of technological progress that seems to be what most people will think of as upper middle range in 2010.
LK
You might need to check out the lateral sensor array though.
If you reconfigure the primary deflector array into an interplexing beacon, you can avoid that problem entirely.
LK
Steve Jobs-The Pied Piper's Flute
Bill Gates-Wallet Harp
This proves more than ever that those who call the PC platform "Wintel" [windows + intel] are stuck in 1998.
Most of AMD's chips are still ia32, guess what the i stands for.
Wintel is still valid for Windows boxen. I got to laugh at my Mac centric friend who called my Duron based Linux box "Wintel".
LK
One decision is based on a personal preference for type of installer and the other is based on an irrational "religious" viewpoint of what "shall and shalt not" be included in a distro.
Both are based on a preference. Just because you find one of those preferences to be more reasonable doesn't make the other preference any less valid.
LK
My grandfather was surprised when we sat down and came up with a very rough estimate of his lifetime earnings.
He was a steelworker for 37 years. I asked him if he earned 50,000 dollars for 20 or more of those years. He of course had, boom, one million out of the way! With all of his earnings during that time and before he had earned nearly 2 million dollars over the course of his lifetime.
LK
No, he said it would be dumb for someone to specifically NOT want the graphical installer. Like, you wouldnt use the distro because of the fact that it has a graphical installer.
That's no dumber than the people who won't consider a distro that doesn't have one.
LK
I could see wanting the option for a text based install but to specifically NOT want a graphical installer is pretty dumb.
So, if I understand you correctly, it's dumb to want your distribution to offer you the choice of a non-dumbed down version of its installer?
LK
comes down to these factors.
Clarity of the install. An installer need not be graphical to be clear. Remember Red Hat's old installer? Not graphical, but clear and easy to use.
Initial setup of hardware. Mandrake does a bang up job of detecting and setting up your hardware. Red Hat did a great job of detecting my hardware as well. Slackware couldn't even set up my USB keyboard.
Install/Upgrading of packages. The first time you run into an issue of dependency that goes more than 5 or 6 levels deep, you'll HATE life. And when you hit lib hell you'll want to murder someone.
After you take the time to get the machine up and running the way you like it, most distros are not much different. (sure different distros put config files and whatnot in different places)
I guess the point comes down to what you want to do. If you want to learn as much as possible and *NIX, use Slackware. If you want to get set up quickly and easily, use Mandrake. If you want to keep your packages as current as possible, use Debian. If you want all of your software to be tuned to your hardware, use Gentoo. If you need something more specialized, look into one of the more specialized distros.
LK
how about we get 1MBS real downloadspeed in everyones home before we go shooting porn to reach ISP owners at the speed of light.
Hey buddy. Even on a 56k modem, you're still downloading your pr0n at pretty much the speed of light.
LK
Well I guess that this means we shouldn't be eating meals off our shower curtains.
Think about it for a minute. You get into the shower when you're dirty. Water splashes off of your skin. Some of that splash ends up on the shower curtain. Is anyone really surprised by the fact that there are bacteria on the shower curtain.
LK
that way, you're doing double duty.
Double doody! Brilliant!
LK
Always is a powerful word. Nothing is totally secure.
Then you need to read up on quantum cryptography.
An attacker may be able to intercept a bit or two out of the message but because these are single photons if you intercept one it will be obvious that someone has intercepted the photon.
Because you can never be 100% sure of the position of the photon it would take a fair bit of trial and error just to intercept one and all of those other photons that you blocked in your attempt to catch one will be missed by the recipient of the message.
Remember the difference between the words "safe" and "secure" when dealing with crypto. The transmission may not be secure, because it is possible to intercept some of the photons involved. Transmission is safe because no one can intercept it without tipping you off.
LK
The Western business-minded viewpoint would factor in contracts, heavy industry, materials, and all the like into costs, whereas a more simple society would just get a ton of unskilled workers out there to assemble the project (instead of relying on earth moving equipment).
And these people would often be willing to do it for free. They were farmers, they needed to move their oxen, buffalo and goats (ok, I made up the goats part) across the river as well. They were helping themselves at the same time.
Oh, that plus the NVA and Viet Cong had AK-47s.
LK
The injustices that I have faced at the hands of "law enforcement" are nothing compared to Kevin's, and as a result of that treatment I wouldn't turn in anyone for an offense short of a rape/murder/kiddy porn traffic.
LK
I think Bill's net worth has a bit to do with the fact that Microsoft nets millions of $ per day in profit.
Even 1% of the stock in such a profit machine is a bundle.
LK
I got the first post, bitch! My second in about 6 years of Slashdotting.
You fail it.
LK
The fine is not based on how much you make, or how much you are worth (such as setting bail amounts) .
True enough, but the punative value is very much linked to your net worth.
If you can make $800k in less than one day, it doesn't mean much to you.
I haven't earned that much in the last 10 years. So to me, $800 is a lot more money than it is to BillG.
LK
It's not like doesn't have the money. Fining him 800k is like fining me 5$.
LK
He has complained about the abuses of the Justice system that occured in his case,
And yet, he's willing to help put another person at the mercy of that same justice system.
LK
This seems like the kind of thing that would keep me from using "free" wireless access, but I've a feeling I'm in the minority.
I'm suddenly feeling perplexed as I type this message with a fucking banner ad across the top of the page!
In order to express righteous indignation, one must first be righteous.
LK
Before he was incarcerated do you think Mitnick would have helped to put someone else behind bars?
After spending ~4 years in jail with no trial, I am disappointed to see him be so willing to put someone else in jail.
LK
I was driving home from work one day during a flash flood. The bridge that I needed to take was closed because some jackass in a semi truck recked in the storm. I had to drive through a lower elevation and the water was so deep that it got sucked into my air cleaner. In fact it was only an inch or two below my window. My car stalled because of the water in the air filter.
Pushing a Camaro out of 2.5 feet deep flowing water REALLY sucks.
LK