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Jens Of Sweden MP3 Player With OLED, Ogg
rune-bare-rune writes "Gadget manufacturer Jens of Sweden launches a nice-looking MP3 player with an unusual OLED display that doubles as a mirror. Supports MP3, WMA and OGG Vorbis. And as a few other really small players it handles the USB connection nicely."
the Tom of Finland MP3 player...
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
Jens of Sweden normally has excellent product design, so it's somewhat unfortunate that the button size appears to be as small as possible. The 4-way rocker doesn't look like it'll be fun to manipulate.
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Ah, great. A mirror. Just what I was looking for in an MP3 player.
Good thing, 'cause I think they're gonna need one. ;)
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It looks like a rebranded iRiver to me...
They're still making devices with USB 1.1? Especially for something like an MP3 player, where you're moving large amounts of data, USB 2 is a must. For low-end devices with only 512M of storage, you're going to be doing a lot of adding/removing of files, which makes having to constantly wait during every session a hastle; for the larger devices, it's insane to have to wait forever for your collection to transfer over the outdated 1.1 spec.
In a world where modern machines come with USB 2, and it's also backwards compatible with USB 1, there's no excuse to make an mp3 player that only supports USB 1.1.
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... assuming it's real and not vaporware.
I haven't seen any practical OLED apps, and if this is one of them consider me sold on the technology.
Also, it's worth mentioning that my agency did a fingerprint analysis on the user in the picture and our results have conclusively indicated that she is in fact:
A NATALIE PORTMAN CLONE!!! We knew it was possible!
Amen brothers!
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Personally, this form factor (similar to Creative Labs) has some appeal to me. I know everyone says that the HD's in iPods are shock proof and this and that, but for using at the gym or while running, you can't beat this super-mini form factor and solid state construction. Great to see they're offering some value-adds such as ogg support.
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Now if only it could run FLAC, i would be in love with it. Granted, FLAC is a niche market, but it's one of the things that attracts me to the Rio What-ya-may-call-it. Instead of Portable Audio players hard-coding support for file formats into there player, wouldnt it be nice for them to release an API for plug-ins to allow for a wide range of user customization? Hell, then we can get tux racer and nethack on them ;)
OOOOOoooh, you mean an IPOD CLONE. C'mon, this is Slashdot. Use the proper terminology - once Apple comes out with their own version of a product, even one that's been out for years, any other product like that is a clone of the Apple product.
Got it?
Anybody got a mirror?
The person holding that MP3 player is almost certainly a man.
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Look at that design. Although I wish they would have picked a better name for their company/smaller logo, I love it. Look at the hires images. Peerty!
Except clones don't share fingerprints.
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..does it play Ogg Vorbis?
-Copyright law #69:Whenever Mickey Mouse is about to enter the public domain,copyrights get extended by 25 years.
"And now with our included mirror, you can insure that your eye patch is correctly aligned so your other (music) pirate friends don't point and laugh!" Argh!
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This looks like a great product, as I'm sure anyone who's looking for a solid state Ogg Player will agree, but the website is a joke, and is bound to alienate the customers they are trying to market to. Just hitting the front page, I get an unrecognised "Flash animation" in the middle of the screen and get booted into a plugin download page. Surely most people will want to see pictures of the product, not some silly Flash animation (Has anyone seen the content of this -- is it at all useful?)
Something also strikes me as strange with their software requirements list: Windows 98-SE/ME/2000/XP
Mac OS 8.6 or newer (Linux as well) -- What's the deal with that? If it supports Linux, they can add it to the list. Do they really thing that putting one of their best features it in brackets like an afterthought is going to help endear their product to Linux users?
It's not an iPod clone simply because it's a flash media MP3 player, not a hard drive MP3 player like an iPod is.
[sarcasm]I thought OGG was a second rate codec that only 5 people on slashdot used? Why in the world would a hardware company release a new product that supports such a useless codec like OGG when the defacto standard MP3 is good enough?[/sarcasm]
While twins don't share fingerprints, i'd really like to see your source on clones not sharing fingerprints. i mean, just out of curiousity.
Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
I find the ad disturbing- why two left hands????
Look at the photo yourself- that's weird huh?
+5 Observant
As a true blue slashdotter, I have a bit of an acne problem. Can I get one without the mirror?
-Copyright law #69:Whenever Mickey Mouse is about to enter the public domain,copyrights get extended by 25 years.
Hammacher Schlemmer, the listed reseller of Jens of Sweden's product in the US, has one of the older models - the MP110 - for $249.95 with 256MB of storage.
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http://www.hammacher.com/publish/70549.asp?prom
I would think this model, the MP130, would be at least as expensive, but likely more.
-B
.. or does that look like a man's hand holding the mp3 player? From the angle, orientation of the hand, and the activity (applying lipstick) it's obvious the advertisers want us to think it's an attractive women holding the mp3 player to apply lipstick.
I get the feeling that women's face was photoshoped in, and not an actual reflection. But when were ads "touched up" (fast food commercials, SI swim suit issue, etc. etc.)
Details, details. It's an mp3 player, so it's an iPod clone. Just like any PDA is a Newton clone, and any GUI is an Apple OS ripoff. X-Box? Pippin ripoff. Blaster worm? Appletalk ripoff. ;)
Okay, that's just cool looking and I give them huge props on the look and feel. Even the USB-port-slide-out-feature is very cool. Not as certain about the "joystick" feature.
But what is with the 256MB capacity? I am not trying to be an Apple zelot here, but with the iPod Mini, hasn't Apple really drawn a line in the sand where Style and 4GB capacity intersect at a sub $250 price point?
The way I see it, no one who ever uses a high capacity digital music player (remember back when we called them MP3 players?) will ever go BACK to a low capacity sub 100 song player. Just won't happen. You get hooked on the ability BROWSE.
But anyway, nice looking toy
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
.. or does that look like a man's hand holding the mp3 player?
From the angle, orientation of the hand, and the activity (applying lipstick) it's obvious the advertisers want us to think it's an attractive women holding the mp3 player to apply lipstick.
I get the feeling that women's face was photoshoped in, and not an actual reflection. But when were ads "touched up" (fast food commercials, SI swim suit issue, etc. etc.)
..if it's targetted at women?
"What song is playing, let me check, oh shoot my hair is all messy. My good old jens of sweden MP3 player, let's me pretty up anytime i want"
prrrr
yes, the person holding the player is very manly, at least. also i think the mirror idea is really bad. i have a sony ericsson t610 and the dang thing has fingerprints on it all the time. so with this player, in order to see yourself, you'd have to bring along something to wipe the smudges off. when i read the article, i thought the player was going to be in the shape of a hand held mirror (eg. the one in beauty and the beast)
buffling news for nerds, isnt it? a mirror, gushhh. :)
>Isn't that a man's hand holding the mirror to allow
>lipstick to be applied to a woman's face??
It had BETTER be a different person, or they have two left hands...
*grin*
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Did anyone actually spot anything on their site that mentions that the display is OLED? Looks to me more like the OEL (Organic EL) display that some newer car stereos have (new Pioneers, etc). Last I heard blue OLED had some MTBF troubles...
I use the back of my iPod as a mirror all the time. Unless you're irresponsible and have an extremely scratched up iPod back...
That is, if you can keep it clean and free of scratches. I know some people who have their caseback so badly scratched up that its pretty much lost its reflective properties.
Yes yes, -1 Redundant. But no one's posted about it yet. Does it work with Linux? A friend of mine has an earlier model, and it doesn't seem to get detected as a USB mass storage device under 2.4.2x. He's a captive windows user and this is one of the main reasons he can't drop it completely.
I'd try it on 2.6.5, but he doesn't want to upgrade (?!) and he uses it too much to lend it to me to hack with. So do any of you fellow linux-only users have one of Jens' recent units working?
If twins don't share fingerprints, why *would* clones share them? Same DNA for both, right?
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I've been to the vorbis site and listened to the ogg samples (Scroll down to the bottom and listen to the 45k/sec samples) of low bit rate compression. It sounds really good at really low bit rates. Scroll up a little and listen to the mp3s at 64 and 128, and then listen to the OGG at 64. That's the quality of mp3 at 1/2 the space.
Couldn't these companies take better advantage of the ability to play OGG files and include the compressor to actually fit more music in less space? They could advertise a player that holds "more music" in a less expensive package. Instead of advertising the storage space, advertise the number of hours of music, and compare to competitors that cost 2x as much.
Did anyone else check out the "His and Her" .. um .. rectal probes?
Don't forget that the main point of USB 2.0 is dun-na-na-na!: Marketing!!! What they really need us USB 2.0 High Speed XP 10.4 Second Edition Tiger MX Superfly X800 Ultra Extreme Inferno. That is if you want to benefit from greater than 12 Mbps transfer speeds.
but I'll stick with firewire.
Would be good if the player is actually made and designed in Sweden. Too bad it's not. Fact is, the flash-based MP3 player market is largely dominated by the koreans.
But... hollywood shows that clones share spoooooooky connections - unlike twins (except in those movies that are otherwise). Or, more simply put, tequila and slashdot do not mix.
Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
Try to pose your hands like that in a mirror. You'd have to have some pretty funky elbows or a reality distortion field or something.
I guess the RSD(TM) is already patented
I agree that bashing a product or post the lifts up a product, simply because it is not made by Apple is bad. However, i would not go as far as to say we shouldn't be allowed to automatically hold the product to the standard Apple has set.
After all, Apple has created a 'reference standard' for the digital media player industry by which all other digital media players are, in my opinion, rightly judged. The same holds true for Windows. Apple Linux and before it Unix were and remain compared to Windows, the reference standard for desktop OS.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
kinda refreshing in a way :-D
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Clones are basically artificially created twins...
Fingerprints are formed during fetal developement and are not determined entirely by DNA
IOPS players have been on sale in Korea for some time now.
How long will the surface of that stay reflective? The back of my iPod which was a nice mirror is now scuffed to hell. Do you think the same would happen in this scenario as well?
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Although most of us will see the mirror display as, at best, a novel cosmetic touch, I've shown these pictures to a girl I happened to have about the place and her response was instant enthusiasm.
She pointed out that it's always good to have a mirror handy, especially in situations where you aren't carrying your usual bag-of-tricks, such as when you're jogging - with one of these and a tube of lippy in her pocket, a girl would be ready for anything.
Her one criticism was that that small mic hole, right in the middle of that otherwise unobstructed stretch, would be an irritating distraction for anyone giving their make-up a quick check. I figure that such an infrequently used feature could have been placed elsewhere without affecting its utility. Also, I think they should have extended the right up to or even around the corners, increasing the mirror's ease of use (I presuming that the mirror is just a protective fascia placed over the actual OLED display).
At the right price point (and I think it is), this could seriously challenge Apple's mostly female targetted Mini ipod.
I wonder how much of a kickback OSDN gets for every
sale of these MP3 players. Or was the above
designed to hurt sales, or perhaps OSDN is now
in the hardware review business to compete with
Ziff-Davis. Nah. Someone's knob is getting greased.
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Damn you, you got me :(
If Natalie Portman has hands like that, you can keep her (it)?.
Eeek.
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Tell me what you see here: IOPS
It will work with Linux 2.4+, according to the manufacturer.
It's amazing how many people on Slashdot can't spot irony even when it's smacking them in the face.
Presumably, the person who modded the parent post as "redundant" and the two ACs who added useless replies fall into this category.
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It's a male left hand holding the mirror for a woman. As pointed before, another hand would hold the camera (male right hand). Also note the camera angle - almost vertical (judging from the position of the shoes in the background) and still from the left of the woman in the mirror. How many left hands would have been needed for only one actor?
Weird effect anyway - they should have thought this through more.
Look under their pictures section for the picture that shows the device being used as a mirror. It has a woman putting on her lipstick as the image being reflected. Okay, great. Now look at the hand. Does that look like it belongs to a beautiful woman?
Samsung e700. I am holding it in my hand right now, and it's organic external display is just fabulus.
Don't you ever wear (sun)glasses, do you?
ACC support? I'm sure it'd hold OGG or MP3 encoded ACC (Atlantic Coast Conference) basketball games. That'll really get ya yelling.
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Organic Light Emitting Diode is the original name for the technology.
Other companies came out with different names like Organic Electro-Luminescent.
I, for one, am glad that these displays are getting into more gear, it will only drive the technology onwards.
Ya, but if it isn't in English I wouldn't trust it. I'm not saying this as a nationalist remark, just in my experience. Stuff that comes from the Far east has not Copyright laws on it. They can claim anything and not worry about false advertising. I'd get another reference.
No, I don't think so.
What is that play time based on ? 128kbit/s ? 64kbit/s ? 32kbit/s mono ?
Even if they said 'CD quality', style.. it would depends on whichever test said it sounded like the original CD of song X as heard by randomguy Y.
No. Storage space, in megabytes or so, is much more convenient, as you can determine for yourself how much music you can store on it - based on your actual files.
This is really everything that I want, except for the fact that it's only 512 MBs of memory. Here's to hoping that they make a hdd-based version.
----geppy -
My short review on the SanDisk Ultra II: I wasn't able to reach anywhere near the claimed speed with my G4 laptop and a PCMCIA adaptor, reading or writing. The 8x lexar that came with my camera (1.2Mbyte/sec) felt faster using the same setup.
I just did a speed test using 'time cp' - 13372kB in 5 files, transfered in 9.19 seconds = 1445 kB/sec = 10x 9000 kB/sec.
Of course, that's reading and not writing. And my cache wasn't cleared... but both of those things should have made it faster.
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I was wondering if anyone knew if this model has line in encoding for audio sources. I know the Iriver 3xx, 5xx, and 8xx have the line in encoding, and ogg support, and the 3xx series has linux support with a firm ware upgrade. I am just am considering that a key factor, and this seems tempting, if it was able to procure that feature. Well that and price too. All the iriver series @ 256MB are about $180. Anyone have information on this?
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The way I see it, no one who ever uses a high capacity digital music player (remember back when we called them MP3 players?)
my memory is also kind of burnt but i think i remember seeing someone call it that somewhere....
OH YEAH!, here it is
Jens Of Sweden MP3 Player With OLED, Ogg
Posted by timothy on Tuesday May 04, @10:49PM
As someone ignorant about OLED technology ... how exactly are they creating a mirror finish here. Is it dynamic? One minute it's translucent and not mirror-ish, the next minute it's reflective silver colored? I don't get it, and I don't speak "bork bork bork."
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
The IEC TC 110 WG/4 recently agreed in April 2004 to call them all OLED now. Here's a news report, in Korean. I can't find any links in English though.
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The capacity difference between the two cells is not
.53Ah = 6.7kJ for the Li-Ion cell.
as large as the Amp-hour rating would seem to indicate.
Li-ion cells operate at about 3.6 volts, while NiMH cells
operate at about 1.2. Thus, assuming constant voltage
during discharge and zero internal resistance (incorrect,
but it makes this easier), you can calculate capacities of:
1.2V * 2.2Ah = 9.5kJ for the AA cell and
3.6V *
Given the higher energy density per mass of Li-Ion
cells and the form factor flexibility ditching the
AA provides, this seems like a good tradeoff.
Finally, someone other than Apple has an attractive-looking player. Unfortunately, 512MB flash memory is a bit too little for me... I'd love to see a version of that player with a small hard drive, instead.
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>>doubles as a mirror.
:-)
Come on, folks. OGG is a nice bell and whistle, but a mirror? That's just chrome.
big Swedish hands...better to massage you with!
What I want to know is WHERE did they take those photos - they look industrial and abandoned!
Look at the desk - it has paint splattered all over it, the floor is filthy, old furniture.
Move over WeirdNJ, time for Weird Sweden!
[not sarcasm]Good question.[/not sarcasm]
Moof.
note that jenz of sweden does not create any mp3players at all: they just buy mp3players from asia and put the "jenz of sweden" logo on it.
Is it just me - or does it look like this woman has two left arms? If I'm right, her thumb in the reflection should be on the /other/ side.
Perhaps the Mirror (crystal clear polished metal) on the back of the "large" iPods added to thier succes in the feminie world as well.
Personally I'd be scared to meed this clone... seeing as she has two left hands...
How does one "meed" ??? I'd be scared just meeting her!
cool enough mp3 player, but why is it inscribed with "Jews of Sweden"?
Ive been holding off upgrading my 19 inch CRT hoping someone would come out with an OLED monitor. I'm seeing OLED displays in more and more things, so was hoping they had the blue lifetime thing licked...or at least improved.
Unfortunatly my CRT is now failing on me. I think it just might be a loose colour wire (monitor changing colours) so I'm going to poke around to check it out--no warnings about high voltages please, I know what I'm doing--. OLED monitors still seem fairly far away dispite some existing prototypes, but I am really hoping they come out soon.
I want to go flat panel but am very dissatisfied with LCD's economical and technical shortcomings. They have fairly poor contrast, only newly getting the viewing angle thing fixed, have a best possible response time(16ms) thats only barely good enough for a 60fps game (and thats a full on/off transition..transitions to/from partial states take much longer)...and to top it all off are friggin expensive compared to their nicer (bigger) CRT brothers.
SO, I'm holding out for OLED, but it seems I might be holding out for a few years before seeing a decent sized flat panel display based on this technology.
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Jriver had cooler shit than that years ago
this is for frugal geek cokeheads.
I mean... a mirror?
I'll show you MY USB stick.
I'm fairly certain it's the photographer's hand that is holding the player. It's easier to get a good shot when you can shift the mirror with your own hands. And besides, otherwise she'd have two left hands.
Jens of Sweden has never developed any technology of it's own. Their game is to rebrand other manufacturers mp3-players and make the exterior look somewhat better. I don't have the energy to find a link, but this is common knowledge.
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Although WE'D all hate it, marketing the player based on "Play time" would be an advantage that might help Ogg Vorbis gain market share.
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Why is it that the "design labels" of our days have the need for rebranding of far eastern goods? As someone already pointed out in this tread, this is a rebranded Iops player.
I remember Bang & Olufsen when they launched their failed cellphone series. It was just a rebranded Ericsson phone, in three more colors at twice the price. My guess is that todays consumers are too vary of these things and JoS will fail unless they cooperate and innovate like certain other companies.
The absolutely worst case of rebranding ever was the North Korean government: They bought / stole severeal Huyndai cars and rebranded them (illegaly) as their own brand. Everybody outside NK understood what was going on, but this was a publicity stunt for their own people to convince them that NK had an up to date booming car industry.
I bought their MP300 a couple of weeks ago and I absolutely love it.
One thing that isn't mentioned on the MP300 page (since usage is illegal in Scandinavia), is that the player includes an FM transmitter that can be enabled by running a small program.
Does the MP130 have this functionality as well?
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FLASH!!!
Man self imollates while accidentally trying to listen to his cigarette lighter!!!!
Genda
-- I'm wainting for someone to build a personal nuke with the same form factor...
This player is extremley similar to my Muzio (www.muzio.co.kr) player, which also has an OLED display (in fact, Jens one looks like the same one running on slightly updated software). Same button combination too. The Muzio is great - 512MB memory, line-in, direct MP3 encoding, FM radio, voice recording. BUT big drawback - the OLED display is shockingly bad. You can hardly see it at all, when at full brightness, in bright sunlight. Very annoying. Apart from this, I'd recommend the Muzio, but the Jen looks more stylish... and you get a free mirror!!!
If they did this, figuring it at 64kbs, next week the competition would be advertising playing time with 64kbs mp3 to match them. Then the next week someone would go to 48kbs, and a week later everyone would follow them...
It wouldn't help anyone, and it will probably happen, without Ogg being involved even. That's what marketing droids do. :(
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I think it's even more scary that one of her hands (the one holding the player, we can't be sure of just how many hands this creature has) is a man's hand!
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Yes, the problem with OLEDs is that they still have a very limited live time. There is a car radio (I belief it was only put to the japanese markets) that had such a nice display. But after as short as a year it begun to have the first visible defects. Once they've started to decease they are soon not usable any more.
The problem has to do with the fact, that smallest amounts of h2o destroy the stuctures of the OLEDs. Smallest amounts means the order of magnitude of few molecules. Yet there is no efficient way to build the display so that they are totally sealed from water. I'm not starting to talk about that there is not a really cheap way to achieve that in sight.
Even if this MP3-player looks really nice to me (ogg!) I would not invest my money in a product that is going to be broken not later that in two years or so.
Is that really true? If that's the case, how can an injured finger know how to grow the same pattern back?
Make a difference: move to a swing state.
Actually, they often develop the specs themself and let the koreans develop the tech.
Jens of sweden is a company that brings cool korean gadgets to europe. But not any cool gadget, only those up to their specs. If nothing fits the koreans adapt their products. Capitalism in a nutshell.
I have a link but its in swedish so its of no use anyway.
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and whats your point?
new above old will always make you notice the new, look at manequins clothes, they go with the device, not the environment
looked like the portal to some gay porn site
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Specs from the press release (which is only available in nordic languages it seems):
The recommended prices are SEK 1795/2495/3295, which translates to very roughly $240/$330/$430.
This HAS to be a different person.
She cannot see herself a the same time AND take a picture of herself, because the mirror has to point to a different direction each time (to see herself : point directly at her. to take a picture : point in the middle between her face and the camera).
So, some else has to do the shot and the correct camera/mirror orientation.
The girl herself only sees the camera in the mirror. Not herself.
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Actually the Fujitsu F504i mobile phone from NTT DoCoMo already had an OLED display 2 years ago.
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http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/article/showcase_t
If you read the original link, it says:
System requirementsUnits like this don't generally use a general purpose CPU running the decoder algorithms in software - they have a very small, low-power microcontroller controlling a dedicated decoder chip, which is a DSP with a mask-ROM version of the MP3 algorithm on it.
You cannot simply update a mask-ROM device (unless you are E.T.) - the data is encoded as the presense or absense of metal at a junction of the chip, not charge on a floating gate of a transistor (as in EEPROM/Flash).
Now, if the makers of such decoder chips start shipping chips with the Vorbis algorithm on them, then we might start seeing more small devices like this.
However, IIRC Fraunhoffer has stated that they believe Vorbis infringes on their patents, therefore it is unlikely that they would license the MP3 algorithm to anybody who plans to put it on the same device as Vorbis.
I'd be interested to see how this device solves the problem - are they using a non-mask-ROM DSP, and loading it from an external ROM, or has some company started shipping combination MP3/Vorbis decoders? Or did they just use an embedded device with enough beef to run MP3 and Vorbis directly?
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The MPIO FL-100 already havea mirrored surface. You can also but the FL-100 at your favorite retail outlet. No USB port though. But it does have some Linux support
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Well hi, welcome to 2004.
If you do decide to get a new monitor, you might want to check out the Iiyama E431S. 17" 1280x768 display, 16ms response time, and no visible ghosting that I've seen. And I play plenty of games, and watch DVD movies.
The thing has digital and analog inputs (not supplied with a DVI cable, though), which is good, and overall is an extremely nice piece of hardware. Better than a lot of competitors, and not the most expensive, either.
Wait, so does that mean slashdot is oil based?!
Not more than you need, just more than you want
It doesn't... it almost sounds like you've never gotten your fingertips shaved before!
The Signal/Noise ratio can be improved in two ways. Remaining silent is the OTHER way.
Apple must really be holding the aac info close. Then again..if apple finally releases an ipod with better a better s/n ratio and true playlist creation from the player...I'd be happy to buy one of those instead of the iriver or zen xtra.
Still...I wish Apple would find a way to make some money from selling music and not just ipods. That way more players would be able to play aac files and use iTunes to sync. Hell, I'd pay for iTunes, if it'd let me use any digital player on the market.
Just like Linksys! Only they use Taiwanese companies to develope the tech, not Korean.
They don't ship internationally, according to their faq.
It's a nice looking unit but any of those 256MB or 512MB players are just a toy compared to the gigabytes and thousands of songs you can put on a hard drive based player.
Sure hard drives can fail but I've had a normal 3.5 inch 40GB WD hard drive in my Dension DMP3 car player for 2 years now. It's gone through a full range of winter and summer weather and ~30 miles of daily driving, and it's still going strong. Even if it failed today I'd rather buy a $40 hard drive every few years rather than get by with ~64 songs on a solid-state player.
So companies don't need to use OGG to advertise "more music in less space".
Check out this: http://www.jensofsweden.com/media/MP-130/mp-130_3_ web.jpg
Then look at the hand of the "woman" sticking her lip.
Hello?? Fred?! Is this you?
Cool, so I can add this to my list of ogg-enabled personal music boxes.
Here's the list at the moment:
Rio Karma
Sharp Zaurus
Sony Ericsson P800
Neuros
Palm Tungsten
Frontier Labs NEXiA (via a promised firmware update)
iRiver iMP-250/350/400/550, iFP-1000("Prism Eye"), iFP-700/800
IOPS MFP-312/315/350
Jens of Sweden MP-130 (128,256 or 512MB) (rebadged IOPS?)
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
In France, the device seems to be distributed by ISM Technologies under the name ISM IOPS 512.