"If you have information about the denial of service attacks or the infiltration of our network, please send the details."
Then Gabe goes on to say
"Important: Just to be clear, it's ok to talk about the leak and the possible implications, however we'll nuke you and your family if you even make the most slight clever hint of where to download it or even screenshots of it."
What? You ask for help and then you threaten?
Suck my nuts Gabe! I downloaded the source from BitTorrent, and anyone else who is remotely interested in finding out if this is the real deal should do the same.
After behavior like that, I wouldn't tell you who infiltrated your network even if that person had cracked into my system and deleted all of my pr0n.
"If you have information about the denial of service attacks or the infiltration of our network, please send the details."
Then Gabe goes on to say
"Important: Just to be clear, it's ok to talk about the leak and the possible implications, however we'll nuke you and your family if you even make the most slight clever hint of where to download it or even screenshots of it."
What? You ask for help and then you threaten?
Suck my nuts Gabe! I downloaded the source from BitTorrent, and anyone else who is remotely interested in finding out if this is the real deal should do the same.
After behavior like that, I wouldn't tell you who infiltrated your network even if that person had cracked into my system and deleted all of my pr0n.
We're protecting the Jews out of the kindess of our hearts?
Isarel is a secular state, the religion of its inhabitants isn't an issue for me.
You don't think having a military foot hold in the region in order to secure the middle east plays into it? Even a little bit?
Yuo don't think that our friendship with Egypt, or Joran, or Qatar would be enough to get us some bases? This country's support of Israel is in part due to guilt because we couldn't stop the holocaust, and out of fear to alienate Israel's supporters who vote here.
Most folks, again, would answer nope. There are those annoying little hard to calculate costs. For instance - if we weren't dependent on foreign engery - would we need a military the size we do?
Foreign oil isn't the reason why we need our military. Our unilateral support of Israel is far more important to our potential enemies than the fact that we put BILLIONS of dollars into their pockets by buying their oil.
It's only a matter of time before we move to Solar.
Yeah, a matter of a LONG time. We won't switch to solar on a widespread scale until we run out of fissionable material, and that assumes that we haven't developed a method of fusion electricity generation.
There are two possible widespread problems that come with the release of the source. 1. is making it easier for people to produce cheats, 2. is that people can reverse engineer cd-keys, that will lead to piracy.
But source code and source code alone does not a great game make. There are models, textures, maps, config files and myriad other items that the finished product contains that the source archive will not.
You're not going to see people rolling their own pirate releases of HL2 just because of this code, but it could help people to rip off the full version, once it's available.
It's not a new system, when I lived in USSR (back in the late 80's early 90's), even in that backward ass communist country you could return 3 empty bottles of pepsi (which was the only coke-like drink at the time) and get one new full one.
That is, is they used to dump crap in the water and cap it off with pavement/rock. I suspect they have curbed this habit in recent times due to envirenmental concerns, but they DO have a place to dump garbage.
I'm not sure why the practice ceased. I doubt that it was just because of environmental concerns, for God's sake we're talking about the Japanese. If anyone on the planet can figure out how to seal off a block of garbage from the elements, it's them.
Um... I hope you're joking... you're suggesting that it's desirable to create areas of landfill?
No, I'm saying that it is cheaper
Especially computer stuff... man that's got some toxic sh*t in it.
Precisely why people who live on former landfills do not drink well water. Fortunately the most toxic substances (lead, mercury) don't rise to the surface.
The Athlon FX is essentially an opteron rebadged as a desktop chip just the the P4 EE is essentially a 3500 top end Xeon with a higher bus speed rebadged as a desktop chip.
Almost. The Athlon FX is an Opteron with 32 bit processing abilities. The P4EE is a Xeon with more cache.
I know some mac zealot will respond that software hasnt been optimized for the G5 yet, well it hasnt been optimized for x86-64 yet either.
Slackware needs something akin to Kudzu or HardDrake. Automatic hardware detection would be a HUGE benefit to Slackware.
I first tried Slackware with version 7.1, it was clean, fast, wonderfully stable and streamlined, but it took me far too long to set up the hardware that Mandrake recognized right after installation. The setup for X windows was a bit trickier than Mandrake's as well.
I started off with Linux using Redhat 4.2, I was a big Redhat fan until I tried Mandrake 6.0, I've been a Mandrake loyalist ever since. I tried a few other distros (Storm, Turbo, SuSe) along the way since, but nothing has been able to win me back over from Mandrake.
I picked up Slackware 7.1 used for $15 with the full set of CDs and the books. I was very impressed with it. But for my needs, it's the third best choice.
Slackware would be great for a rackmount server that is rarely opened, but for a desktop system that is upgraded fairly often, I just don't see it making much progress.
I live in Pennsylvania, if I mail or telephone or internet order something from a company in Ohio, my state does not have the right to force that Ohio based company to collect sales tax on the transaction.
The state is within its rights to compell me to pay a usage tax when I order, but they will not go after millions of people to collect 6% on the $50 per year that they spend on internet commerce.
It amazes me how clueless some people can be. OK, so they may lose their jobs, but it's not entirely bad. Telemarketing costs money. Just because people aren't given the "opportunity" to spend their money on a telemarketer, doesn't mean they'll never spend that money on something else.
True, but the money will most likely be spent somewhere else.
The money that is normally spent on telemarketing won't just disappear, it'll be routed into other, (more worthy IMHO) things.
Again, true, but not the point. We're talking about one congressman(Ted Strickland), representing one district(Ohio's 6th), in which upwards of 500 people earn their incomes through telemarketing. That congressman was probably expressing the will of the people that he represents.
The country as a whole will do fine without telemarketers, but in the communities where these people live and SPEND their money, telemarketing provides vital income.
This isn't like shopping at Best Buy instead of Circuit City. This isn't even like buying a Toyota (that is made in the US) instead of a Chevrolet. This is about Ted Strickland, keeping 500 jobs in the district that he represents.
So what you're saying is that the other 630,500 people in Ohio's 6th district are wrong? Last I recall, the job of the representative is to 'represent' the views of his/her constituency. This seems to fly contrary to that charter.
What makes you so sure that the rest of the district don't agree? What do you think these telemarketers do after payday? I'll tell you what they do. They go to Walmart, they go the the bar, they go to McDonalds, they buy cars, they buy clothes, in other words they provide OTHER PEOPLE with jobs. That's the way economics works.
I hate telemarketing calls, in fact I hang up on them all of the time, but there is a difference between you and I hanging up on them and the federal government using the force of law to stop them from calling in the first place.
My political beliefs prevent me from supporting the federal government's acquisition of any additional power.
Like many of the other geeks here, my tastes are very peculiar. It takes me months to get my system customized just the way I want it. As soon as I do, Mandrake comes out with a new version of their distro with all kinds of creamy goodness that I just can't pass up.
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From the valve response
"If you have information about the denial of service attacks or the infiltration of our network, please send the details."
Then Gabe goes on to say
"Important: Just to be clear, it's ok to talk about the leak and the possible implications, however we'll nuke you and your family if you even make the most slight clever hint of where to download it or even screenshots of it."
What? You ask for help and then you threaten?
Suck my nuts Gabe! I downloaded the source from BitTorrent, and anyone else who is remotely interested in finding out if this is the real deal should do the same.
After behavior like that, I wouldn't tell you who infiltrated your network even if that person had cracked into my system and deleted all of my pr0n.
LK
From the valve response
"If you have information about the denial of service attacks or the infiltration of our network, please send the details."
Then Gabe goes on to say
"Important: Just to be clear, it's ok to talk about the leak and the possible implications, however we'll nuke you and your family if you even make the most slight clever hint of where to download it or even screenshots of it."
What? You ask for help and then you threaten?
Suck my nuts Gabe! I downloaded the source from BitTorrent, and anyone else who is remotely interested in finding out if this is the real deal should do the same.
After behavior like that, I wouldn't tell you who infiltrated your network even if that person had cracked into my system and deleted all of my pr0n.
LK
We're protecting the Jews out of the kindess of our hearts?
Isarel is a secular state, the religion of its inhabitants isn't an issue for me.
You don't think having a military foot hold in the region in order to secure the middle east plays into it? Even a little bit?
Yuo don't think that our friendship with Egypt, or Joran, or Qatar would be enough to get us some bases? This country's support of Israel is in part due to guilt because we couldn't stop the holocaust, and out of fear to alienate Israel's supporters who vote here.
LK
Most folks, again, would answer nope. There are those annoying little hard to calculate costs. For instance - if we weren't dependent on foreign engery - would we need a military the size we do?
Foreign oil isn't the reason why we need our military. Our unilateral support of Israel is far more important to our potential enemies than the fact that we put BILLIONS of dollars into their pockets by buying their oil.
It's only a matter of time before we move to Solar.
Yeah, a matter of a LONG time. We won't switch to solar on a widespread scale until we run out of fissionable material, and that assumes that we haven't developed a method of fusion electricity generation.
LK
to the first person who develops the hack to make a woman's clothes show me what's on the other side.
LK
Exactly... so a leak of game source does not help creation of these cd keys.
Sure it does, unless Valve has done something revolutionary with this game, the same key would be used for single and multiplayer.
Crack one, crack the other.
LK
Once you have the source code... Who cares about CD-Key. They can just produce a binary without any CD key requirements.
Internet play!!!!Remember how HL checks the CD key with WON? Bogus keys will not be allowed to connect to internet games.
LK
There are two possible widespread problems that come with the release of the source. 1. is making it easier for people to produce cheats, 2. is that people can reverse engineer cd-keys, that will lead to piracy.
But source code and source code alone does not a great game make. There are models, textures, maps, config files and myriad other items that the finished product contains that the source archive will not.
You're not going to see people rolling their own pirate releases of HL2 just because of this code, but it could help people to rip off the full version, once it's available.
LK
It's not a new system, when I lived in USSR (back in the late 80's early 90's), even in that backward ass communist country you could return 3 empty bottles of pepsi (which was the only coke-like drink at the time) and get one new full one.
So what you're saying is...
In Soviet Russia, the bottles recycle you!
LK
That is, is they used to dump crap in the water and cap it off with pavement/rock. I suspect they have curbed this habit in recent times due to envirenmental concerns, but they DO have a place to dump garbage.
I'm not sure why the practice ceased. I doubt that it was just because of environmental concerns, for God's sake we're talking about the Japanese. If anyone on the planet can figure out how to seal off a block of garbage from the elements, it's them.
LK
Right, they go down into the groundwater and diffuse out into nearby streams, resevoirs, and wells of those who don't live on former landfills.
While it is true that this can and does happen, it does not happen if the landfill is properly constructed.
LK
Um... I hope you're joking... you're suggesting that it's desirable to create areas of landfill?
No, I'm saying that it is cheaper
Especially computer stuff... man that's got some toxic sh*t in it.
Precisely why people who live on former landfills do not drink well water. Fortunately the most toxic substances (lead, mercury) don't rise to the surface.
LK
Oh please please please tell me you're trolling and not actually that much of a fucking retard.
Landfills are the preferable choice to recycling?
No, you jackass, I'm saying that landfills are cheaper than recycling.
In case you didn't notice, this thread isn't about the environmental benefits of recycling, it is about recycling costs passed along to consumers.
Because you have no immediate way to pave over/build on "unusable" land it should be filled in with garbage?
Sometimes, not always, not often but sometimes, yes.
You're an idiot.
You have no reading comprehension.
I wrote my sig for people like you.
LK
Too bad that Japan has so little land left. Here in the US we can use landfills to reclaim land that would otherwise be unusable.
In Japan, they have no choice but to recycle as much as possible, because they have no place to dump garbage.
LK
You're getting robbed, 6 years ago, I got more speed than that from an ISDN line.
LK
Slackware has hardware detection via the hotplug subsystem. Works fine over here.
That's great. As I said in my last poston the subject, it has been several releases since I have used Slackware.
At this point however, Mandrake has done nothing wrong enough to get me to try another distro.
LK
Mr Data, Make it so!
Engage!
The Athlon FX is essentially an opteron rebadged as a desktop chip just the the P4 EE is essentially a 3500 top end Xeon with a higher bus speed rebadged as a desktop chip.
Almost. The Athlon FX is an Opteron with 32 bit processing abilities. The P4EE is a Xeon with more cache.
I know some mac zealot will respond that software hasnt been optimized for the G5 yet, well it hasnt been optimized for x86-64 yet either.
And you'd both be right.
LK
Slackware needs something akin to Kudzu or HardDrake. Automatic hardware detection would be a HUGE benefit to Slackware.
I first tried Slackware with version 7.1, it was clean, fast, wonderfully stable and streamlined, but it took me far too long to set up the hardware that Mandrake recognized right after installation. The setup for X windows was a bit trickier than Mandrake's as well.
I started off with Linux using Redhat 4.2, I was a big Redhat fan until I tried Mandrake 6.0, I've been a Mandrake loyalist ever since. I tried a few other distros (Storm, Turbo, SuSe) along the way since, but nothing has been able to win me back over from Mandrake.
I picked up Slackware 7.1 used for $15 with the full set of CDs and the books. I was very impressed with it. But for my needs, it's the third best choice.
Slackware would be great for a rackmount server that is rarely opened, but for a desktop system that is upgraded fairly often, I just don't see it making much progress.
LK
to tax transactions made in other states.
I live in Pennsylvania, if I mail or telephone or internet order something from a company in Ohio, my state does not have the right to force that Ohio based company to collect sales tax on the transaction.
The state is within its rights to compell me to pay a usage tax when I order, but they will not go after millions of people to collect 6% on the $50 per year that they spend on internet commerce.
LK
Isn't this exactly the kind of thing we thought could happen when l0pht merged with these guys?
It's nearly impossible for free thinking hackers and suits to have common goals.
Perhaps Ohio should build up some more socially acceptable industries then.
When those people are out spending money in Ohio's society, I'm sure that it's very acceptable.
LK
It amazes me how clueless some people can be. OK, so they may lose their jobs, but it's not entirely bad. Telemarketing costs money. Just because people aren't given the "opportunity" to spend their money on a telemarketer, doesn't mean they'll never spend that money on something else.
True, but the money will most likely be spent somewhere else.
The money that is normally spent on telemarketing won't just disappear, it'll be routed into other, (more worthy IMHO) things.
Again, true, but not the point. We're talking about one congressman(Ted Strickland), representing one district(Ohio's 6th), in which upwards of 500 people earn their incomes through telemarketing. That congressman was probably expressing the will of the people that he represents.
The country as a whole will do fine without telemarketers, but in the communities where these people live and SPEND their money, telemarketing provides vital income.
This isn't like shopping at Best Buy instead of Circuit City. This isn't even like buying a Toyota (that is made in the US) instead of a Chevrolet. This is about Ted Strickland, keeping 500 jobs in the district that he represents.
LK
So what you're saying is that the other 630,500 people in Ohio's 6th district are wrong? Last I recall, the job of the representative is to 'represent' the views of his/her constituency. This seems to fly contrary to that charter.
What makes you so sure that the rest of the district don't agree? What do you think these telemarketers do after payday? I'll tell you what they do. They go to Walmart, they go the the bar, they go to McDonalds, they buy cars, they buy clothes, in other words they provide OTHER PEOPLE with jobs. That's the way economics works.
I hate telemarketing calls, in fact I hang up on them all of the time, but there is a difference between you and I hanging up on them and the federal government using the force of law to stop them from calling in the first place.
My political beliefs prevent me from supporting the federal government's acquisition of any additional power.
LK
For always releasing such sweet, sweet distros!
Like many of the other geeks here, my tastes are very peculiar. It takes me months to get my system customized just the way I want it. As soon as I do, Mandrake comes out with a new version of their distro with all kinds of creamy goodness that I just can't pass up.
LK