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More on E-textiles: Electronic Smart Fabric

Little Hamster writes "The IEEE spectrum has an article on e-textile, where conductive fibers woven into fabric using standard textile techniques carry power to sensors, actuators and microcontrollers embedded in the cloth. The result is snowmobilers jacket that can detect crashes and txt an SMS message for help, carpet that can detect motion, or a T-shirt that shows videos. Oh, and the smart fabric is washable too."

150 comments

  1. TOO EASY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll let you have it.

    1. Re:TOO EASY. by gentoo_moo · · Score: 1

      All I can think of is Towley from Southpark yelling "Don't forget to bring a towel!" while he smokes out.

    2. Re:TOO EASY. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, my dear friend gentoo_moo, how does your asshole feel after spending the night with your faggot-compagnions Mikey, Timothy and Robby?

      Hope you did not catch anything.

      So, I just wanted to ask you something regarding your post:
      how does it feel to post some bullshit quote from a stupid TV-show for hardcore pedophiles in the expectation to get modded funny, but failing really bad to do so?

      Have a nice day; give your butt some rest tonight.

    3. Re:TOO EASY. by gentoo_moo · · Score: 1

      Im so hurt and ashamed. I only wish you had moderator status so you could have expressed how you really feel about my comments. ;)

  2. It's a start by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is the kind of thing we need for Invisiblity Cloaks, chameleon camouflage and Invisible Cars. Of course we still need a revolution in computing to handle the optic information but it's a start.

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    "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
    1. Re:It's a start by dustmote · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just want a t-shirt that changes picture every so often. Maybe one that I can set for "work mode", so it plays mostly subdued patterns that are suitable for work, and "casual mode", which has whatever t-shirt templates I have downloaded into it from iShirt, or the equivalent. (99 cents a pattern, although I hope some of you will still get seven of them, I know us geeks' reputation for BO already)

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    2. Re:It's a start by tuba_dude · · Score: 1

      that's a pretty cool idea. With enough processing power and an embedded microphone, you could probably build or download visualizations and have your shirt do trippy stuff in reaction to the sound around you.

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      "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
    3. Re:It's a start by mesach · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd rather have a carpet that would change.

      that way when I have a party and someone pukes on it, and its still stained after I clean it up, the carpet can change to match the color of the carpet, and thereby mask the stain...

      Just don't go drinking southern comfort, I don't think that a nuclear orange carpet would look good, but by that thought I can't think of any shade of puke that would look good.

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    4. Re:It's a start by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 1

      Unless your carpet was a painting ;)

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      "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
    5. Re:It's a start by E_elven · · Score: 1

      "The result is snowmobilers jacket that can detect crashes --" If a snowmobiler [sic] can't detect whether they've crashed or not, they shouldn't be snowmobiling :)

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      Marxist evolution is just N generations away!
    6. Re:It's a start by riffer · · Score: 1
      GammaGarb

      Specifically, the e-shirts section. But there's some other slightly amusing stuff on their.

      I picked up some "lobe strobes" at a local music store having a going-out-of-business sale. Compact little metal cylinder that flashes very bright orange and blue. Good for freaking out cats and co-workers.

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    7. Re:It's a start by taylorius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alas, this technology will not enable any (good) invisibility cloaks. If you look at the same piece of fabric from different directions, you'll need to see a different colour to match whatever background it's currently obscuring. Some kind of dynamic holographic cloth could do it, but I'm guessing that's more than a little way off yet.

      I envision a slew of early adopters creeping furtively into women's changing rooms, dressed head to toe in highly non-invisible, brightly patterned gimp suits.

    8. Re:It's a start by Vaughn+Anderson · · Score: 1
      Invisiblity Cloaks, chameleon camouflage and Invisible Cars

      Now these actually sounds useful, but having this does not-

      snowmobilers jacket that can detect crashes

      ...you are driving along, and boom!

      YOU HAVE JUST CRASHED! have a nice day.

      Thanks Mr. Coat... :P

  3. Let's see here... by Ikn · · Score: 2, Funny

    /me glances over today's headlines So, what we can look forward to seeing are t-shirts that can answer homework questions. Rock on!

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    I know nothing
    1. Re:Let's see here... by Ikn · · Score: 1

      I swear, it was funnier before I posted it. In Soviet Russia, pants display you! Alright, I'm done.

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      I know nothing
    2. Re:Let's see here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go home.

  4. Oh great... by djhankb · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens when my shirt or pants lock up?

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    1. Re:Oh great... by Nykon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Im more concerned about when someone hacks my underwear.

      --
      "It's better to be a pirate then join the Navy"
    2. Re:Oh great... by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 1


      Wow, talk about a dirty hack.

      At least your underwear would finally log some down time.

      ;]

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      Operator, give me the number for 911!
    3. Re:Oh great... by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Bend over so someone can reBOOT you.

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    4. Re:Oh great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, are you like 13 or something? Did you know you have a misspelling on your website? No one is going to benifit from your mad skilz.

      "Nykon Systems: Making Linux a little less scary since 2001" my ass.

    5. Re:Oh great... by Zildy · · Score: 1

      Someone may have penetrated a hole in your clothing, accessing critical components. We recommend that you sew on a patch.

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  5. Dammit honey by Soporific · · Score: 2, Funny

    I told you not to bleach my monitor, it causes all the colors to wash out!

    ~S

  6. Well...? by mschoolbus · · Score: 1

    What video inputs can I get on my T-shirt?

  7. slashdotted (posted AC to avoid kwhore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    2 seconds after posting and it's already loading slowly...gotta love /. :)

    The AC

    Ready To Ware

    Electronics and fabrics woven together will make smart dressers of firefighters, football players, and fashionistas alike

    By Diana Marculescu, Radu Marculescu, Sungmee Park & Sundaresan Jayaraman

    With cellphones hanging off shoulder bag straps, pagers hooked to our belts, digital cameras dangling from our necks, PDAs bulging in our pockets, and MP3 players clipped to our shirts, we're all beginning to look like electrogadget pack mules.

    Like a pack of ravid gorillas with ants stuck up their anuses, the editors of slashdot behave in a quite odd manner when it comes to censorship and poor journalism. Readers should rise up in sacred jihad against these practices; the moment draws near.

    We have a more versatile and, we dare say, elegant alternative: e-textiles. Your shirt, coat, or sweater, even your carpeting or wallpaper, is the device. Conductive fibers woven into the fabric using standard textile techniques carry power to sensors, actuators, and microcontrollers embedded in the cloth. Software controls the communications inside the on-fabric network and can send radio signals using Bluetooth or any flavor of the IEEE 802.11 wireless standard to PCs and PDAs, and over the Internet.

    Applications are astoundingly diverse. An Army commander, for example, could monitor a platoon of soldiers clad in SmartShirt gear developed by two of us (Jayaraman and Park) at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. The shirt communicates vital signs in real-time, and when all hell breaks loose on the battlefield, the commander sees at a glance who's been hit and who hasn't--and who is gravely injured and in need of immediate attention.

    Closer to home, a fire chief could keep tabs on a unit as it enters a burning building. He could order his team out when the sensors they're wearing transmit data back to his command center telling him that the firefighters are inhaling hazardous fumes or too much smoke or that the fire is too hot to handle.

    Imagine the boon to athletes. A swimmer stroking through the water, vital signs monitored by electrodes attached to wires hanging off her body like the tentacles of a jellyfish, would welcome a sleek, instrumented training suit. And five-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong, who lost an estimated 6.5 kg during the first individual time trial of this year's Tour, could have used a racing suit dotted with moisture, temperature, and pulse sensors. Such attire could have warned the U.S. Postal Service team manager that Armstrong was becoming dehydrated as he was warming up. In turn, the manager could have ordered Lance to drink replacement fluids before he launched from the starting line on his way to a rare time-trial defeat.

    Similar performance- and safety-enhancing garb has already been prototyped by Finnish researchers at Tampere University of Technology and the University of Lapland, and at outerwear maker Reima Oy in Kankaanpaa, Finland. They developed a machine-washable jacket, vest, trousers, and two-piece underwear set for snowmobilers. The jacket is embedded with a GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) chip; sensors monitoring position, motion, and temperature; an electric conductivity sensor; and two accelerometers to sense impact. If a crash occurs, the jacket automatically detects it and sends a distress message to emergency medical officials via Short Message Service. The message conveys the rider's coordinates, local environmental conditions, and data taken from a heart monitor embedded in the undershirt.

    O.K., you don't plan to join the Army, rush into a towering inferno, or compete in the Tour de France. You have no interest whatsoever in swimming and snowmobiling. Nevertheless, e-textiles are soon going to add functionality, fun, and style to whatever it is that you do like to do.

    Just last May, German chipmaker Infineon Technologies

    1. Re:slashdotted (posted AC to avoid kwhore) by Qwell · · Score: 0
      "Like a pack of ravid gorillas with ants stuck up their anuses, the editors of slashdot behave in a quite odd manner when it comes to censorship and poor journalism. Readers should rise up in sacred jihad against these practices; the moment draws near."

      Jesus christ mods, read the post before you mod it informative.

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    2. Re:slashdotted (posted AC to avoid kwhore) by WTFRUDOINBiotch · · Score: 1

      Like a pack of ravid gorillas with ants stuck up their anuses, the editors of slashdot behave in a quite odd manner when it comes to censorship and poor journalism. Readers should rise up in sacred jihad against these practices; the moment draws near.

      Ravid gorillas?

      You should check your grammar when discussing the manners of editors. :-)

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  8. Hmm... by JoeLinux · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't wait until the first time someone says, "Hey, you have a loose thread", yanks it, and gets a voltage shock.

    Hmm...come to think of it, that'd be a worthwhile application...I'd buy one. :)

  9. no cheating by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clothes that report whenever they are being removed to the spouse.

    1. Re:no cheating by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      And carpeting that lets her know when you try to sneak back in at 4 A.M.

      Yeah, that's gonna be a big seller.

      KFG

  10. Great... by LegendOfLink · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Now we're only a step away from having Spammers make our e-clothing so congested with crap that it won't be of any use.

    Even worse, what would happen once Spammers figure out how to broadcast video through the e-clothes, would we have people all over the place with Penis Enlargement ads on their new Old Navy cargo pants?

  11. "I am a consumer whore" by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    That's what I want animated on my T-shirt.

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    Life is not for the lazy.
    1. Re:"I am a consumer whore" by murphyslawyer · · Score: 1
      --
      I ain't evil, I'm just good looking.
  12. just what I need... by griffjon · · Score: 0, Troll

    pr0n spam to scroll down my jacket during an interview.

    Better, 'targeted' ads -- penis enlargement posts on boxers (hm, or panties? who's /really/ the target market?)

    This'll be fun. No, really. It'll bring the BSOD to the level of a fashion statement!

    --
    Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
    1. Re:just what I need... by Moth7 · · Score: 1

      Or even better, the clothing could actually check whether or not such advertising was necessary ;-)

  13. You could also make .... by pavon · · Score: 5, Funny

    a high tech chastity belt!

    Wondering what that guy is doing with your daughter? This sensors on her clothes will monitor everything from body temperature, to heart rate, to surface contact! Using this you can determine if articles have been removed and remotely activate an electric shock - or using the builting GPS, track down the guy and beat him to a pulp the old fasion way!

    Furthermore, the dancing images of Hello Kitty displayed on the clothing will ensure that any girl will be dying to have them! Yours for only $199.99!

    1. Re:You could also make .... by asscroft · · Score: 1

      scarily enough, you can already do most of this with that digital angel stuff.

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  14. Hmmm... by Moth7 · · Score: 1

    So if I want to clean these fabrics am I able to just reset the screen memory? o.0

    1. Re:Hmmm... by Telepathetic+Man · · Score: 1

      or maybe hit the degauss button...

      mmm... demagnetizing *slobber

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      Just because you can, does not mean you should.
  15. Landwarrior by BWJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Army has also been a big backer of this sort of technology for their Land Warrior program. They want the ability to dynamically update their cammo for a variety of conditions from light to dark, from desert to urban to forest.

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    1. Re:Landwarrior by sl0ppy · · Score: 1

      yes, but what if it crashes? does the whole outfit suddenly turn blue, making the wearer stick out like a sore thumb?

      plain ole cammo for me, thanks!

    2. Re:Landwarrior by BWJones · · Score: 1

      yes, but what if it crashes? does the whole outfit suddenly turn blue, making the wearer stick out like a sore thumb?

      Gives new meaning to "Blue screen of death" does it not? :-)

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  16. No Sweet-thing by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was staring at your video, honest.

    Great, just what the world needs, a Tommy Hilfiger jacket that can implement the [marquee] tag.

    KFG

    1. Re:No Sweet-thing by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      I was staring at your *video*, honest.

      funny as it sounds, but a girl with video on her shirt, would actually expect people to stare at it. I mean it's kind of hard to watch the video herself, so obviously it's for other people. And most girls do realize guys are breast fixated, so...

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  17. a likely scenario by sl0ppy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    someone walking down the hall, passes someone with a small handheld computer.

    the handheld computer quickly negotiates with the clothes on the walker's back, when bingo! the break in happens.

    from that point on, the subject walks around with Kick Me! labelled on their back.

    another victim, and a smile breaks out on the person holding the handheld computer.

    1. Re:a likely scenario by pavon · · Score: 2, Funny

      The best part of this is that the jocks would never be able to hack the nerds clothes, but nerds could hack their letterman jackets all day long and they would never know who was doing it! Oh, sweet revenge :)

      Until they decide to just pulverise the first nerd they see :(

  18. Yes, but can it... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 2, Funny

    detect when you've run out of TP in a public toilet and send txt for help?

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    They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
    1. Re:Yes, but can it... by Anomander · · Score: 1

      Wonder why I couldn't understand why you would want twisted pair in a public toilet...

    2. Re:Yes, but can it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      plain sms is outdated, this new tech would send MMS messages with evidence photo!

  19. I would sure hate.... by eclectro · · Score: 0


    for the underwear to short out.

    How well will "e-textile" hold up to moisture??

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    1. Re:I would sure hate.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I can see it now...

      Someone hot walks into room, a short time later, everyone is writhing in pain on the floor.

  20. How about... by JudgeDredd · · Score: 1

    How about a T-shirt that shows a video of the snowmobile crash?

    Otherwise your friends won't believe you when you say how big that cliff was

  21. It's worse than that: by Atario · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    carry power to sensors, actuators and microcontrollers


    Actuators. The spammers could program your clothes to walk you to their offices...forcibly.

    Oh, and Ashcroft wants regular updates on this technology.
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    "A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
  22. Obvious joke... by show+me · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that's what I call multi-threaded computing!

  23. Hmm. by Xenothaulus · · Score: 1

    Let's hope Microsoft doesn't get involved with this. All our clothes will be blue...

  24. Or better yet... by El · · Score: 2, Funny

    how 'bout shoes that can detect someone is trying to light a fuse stuck into them?

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    "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

  25. Great by netfool · · Score: 1

    How long until your house gives you a call at work to tell you it's burning down?

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    1. Re:Great by d3faultus3r · · Score: 1

      Hi, it's the house. just wanted to tell you I'm burning down. Could you call the fire department or something?

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  26. Darling.. by adeyadey · · Score: 1

    Why have you remolded your e-jacket into the shape of Darth Vaders Helmet?

    Its ok, I've modded it..

    --
    "You lied to me! There is a Swansea!"
  27. how long... by Schwartzboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Before we see the Blue Shorts of Death? Will we have to drop our pants to "reboot"?

    I can see a lot of potential here if the technology gets far enough...instead of a wrist-mounted little GPS device that shows "you are here" info, you might have the length of an entire shirt-sleeve for a display. Maybe Big Brother can implement some sort of forced personal information display so that wi-fi sensors in the shirt respond to remote commands issued by police to display your name, address, etc. across the front or back of your shirt. Heck, they could just forget that and track you using the homing signal in your cyber-undies.
    And, of course, the obvious: the day somebody ports an emulator or three to ThreadIX, the Clothing Operating System of the Future, "pocket pool" will take on a whole new meaning.

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    "Linux doesn't exist. Everyone knows Linux is an unlicensed version of Unix"- Kieren O'Shaughnessy
    1. Re:how long... by the_pooh_experience · · Score: 4, Funny
      ..instead of a wrist-mounted little GPS device that shows "you are here" ...
      I can tape a piece of paper to my wrist that has "you are here" written on it, and it will always be right! That paper doesn't even have to be e-textile-based.
    2. Re:how long... by Brahmastra · · Score: 1

      Can't be any worse than brown shorts of death

    3. Re:how long... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      Before we see the Blue Shorts of Death?

      Then abercrombie will start selling clothes that always show the bluescreen.

      Also, when will my pants run linux?

  28. Parent is Article Pasting Troll by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 3, Informative
    Come on moderators, can't you even read two paragraphs into a comment?
    Like a pack of ravid gorillas with ants stuck up their anuses, the editors of slashdot behave in a quite odd manner when it comes to censorship and poor journalism. Readers should rise up in sacred jihad against these practices; the moment draws near.
    Besides, the site isn't even remotely slow. Sheesh.
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  29. OMG! by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now when I get my coffee from that darling teeny-bopper downstairs I'll be forced to see Brittany Spears and Justin Timberlake VIDEOS on her shirts. Oh the pain.

    Well, at least that gives me an excuse to stare.
    "I was just entranced by your... video, HONEST!"
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    Operator, give me the number for 911!
  30. Interesting... by SirChris · · Score: 1

    So now when I stare at a girl's butt, I can say "No, no. I was just watching TV." Maybe criminals can walk around in jumpsuits that constantly replay their crime on it. So anyone who sees them can see exactly what horrific act they have done. Instead of pinning a note to my kid's shirt before they leave for home, now the teacher can just download a little movie clip of exactly what they did do. "No I wasn't grabbing your ass, I was adjusting the reception." The ideas are just endless.

  31. Re:mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Dear Slashdot-community,

    I am tired of my windows-friends always bragging about how many girls they get with their pretty XP-desktop and great games and about they always get all their holes exploited.

    So I just wanted to know:
    - how can I find a girl if I use Linux?
    - how can I make my Linux desktop so that it doesn't suck?
    - will anyone ever exploit my holes?

    Thank you,

    Your friend

    Fagomir Diroll

  32. Re:Then a Boewulf cluster would be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a Beowulf clusterfuck?

  33. That's all well and good, but... by Decaffeinated+Jedi · · Score: 1

    I'm still waiting on my spiffy new polo shirt made from unstable molecules, Mr. Fantastic.

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  34. Not like RFIDs or anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put a uniquie indentifier in your razor and everyone is pissed put an ENTIRE F***ing COMPUTER in your shirt and noone thinks that might be a little open to abuse?

  35. Um. by toothfish · · Score: 2, Funny

    A flexible data bus in Sensatex's SmartShirt prototype carries signals from various sensors plugged into connectors in the shirt to a controller at the waist. An optical fiber woven through the shirt can detect penetration by a bullet.

    I'm not sure I'd need sensors on my shirt to be able to tell if it had been penetrated by a bullet-- unless I was far enough away from my shirt, and then I'd wonder why it was getting shot at.

    1. Re:Um. by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
      unless I was far enough away from my shirt, and then I'd wonder why it was getting shot at.

      You mean, if you're in the shirt, you know why it's being shot at? What did you do?! ;)

      -T

  36. Burton Amp Jacket by MadHakish · · Score: 1

    I'm suprised there's no mention of the Burton Amp Jacket with sleeve based controls for your iPod. mmm.. me like.. They only mention this goofy looking jacket. Looks like he's got a PCB up his sleeve by the outline of the control surface surrounding the buttons. Burton/Apple did a better job IMHO.

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  37. Old news. by Quixo-tastic · · Score: 1

    Clothes have been smarter than many of the people who wear them for years.

  38. I can't wait... by Stingr · · Score: 0

    to hack someone's pants and make them fall down.

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  39. What about... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 5, Funny

    snowmobilers jacket that can detect crashes and txt an SMS message for help, carpet that can detect motion, or a T-shirt that shows videos

    What about some moral fiber that can detect corrupt CEO's?

    (rimshot)

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  40. What's KFG anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kentucky Fried Gorilla?

    1. Re:What's KFG anyway? by kfg · · Score: 1

      Initials. Duh.

      KFG

  41. I Can See It Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would make "Being Goatse'ed" all that much more hillarous!

  42. Mod him up.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I almost laughed..

  43. Kentucky Fried Gonads. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finger lickin' good.

  44. Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The biggest problem with ideas like this is that they sound so great in theory and work so poorly in reality. The CyberJack fans (Neuromancer (sp?), Tek War, etc.) would have you believe that in the future everyone will want technology integrated into their bodies. Yet look at the most popular Sci-Fi such as Star Wars and Star Trek. Note the general lack of bodily implants and the revulsion such ideas produce. Sure, use the technology to make a blind man see or change one's appearance for spy work, but as a standard procedure? Nobody wants it! They simply want their technology like a protective cocoon. The very idea of mutilating one's self in the name of "progress" is seen as evil. (Case and point: The Borg)

    Electronic wearables are an exciting field with tremendous possibilities (such as clothing that stays a constant temperature) but don't expect people to be too excited about anything more than passive systems.

    1. Re:Impractical by switcha · · Score: 2, Funny
      The biggest problem with ideas like this is that they sound so great in theory and work so poorly in reality.

      ... CyberJack ... Star Wars ... Star Trek ...

      Only on /. would you see a statement like the first, backed up by citing examples from Science Fiction. ;)

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    2. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Science Fiction is useful in this case for pointing out what people actually want the future to be like. The questionable science doesn't always make it practical, but that doesn't stop people from trying to make it a reality. Or are you arguing that Star Trek was popular because people don't want the future to be like it? ;-)

    3. Re:Impractical by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting that a few science fiction tv shows speak for everyone ?
      If so, why can't I point at Bladerunner, Neuromancer and a dozen other "cyberpunk" authors as counter example ?

      Perhaps they were popular because they were Soap Opera in Space ?

    4. Re:Impractical by ZerroDefex · · Score: 1

      Alistar Renyolds 'Revelation Space' series of books is another example. In fact, there is a war going on between two human factions, one who heavily augments their brains with nanotechnology and another who is quite revulsed by the concept and makes it look evil in their propaganda techniques.

    5. Re:Impractical by Moekandu · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the Butlerian Jihad.

      Anyway, I'm just waiting for the animated t-shirt. I want to be able to load up everything from animated fractal "tie-dye" patterns, to episodes of Radiskull and Devil Doll, to various 3D animated "Fuck You" sequences.

      Imagine walking into a night club and having your outfit connect to the local network and become a part of the light show.

      Imagine being able to tell everyone within fifty paces just how you feel, at any given moment.

      The reason that Star Trek never had this sort of thing was two-fold. One, they couldn't afford the special effects, and two, the show designed to cater to the mainstream, sci-fi or not.

      Moekandu

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    6. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      > Are you suggesting that a few science fiction tv shows speak for everyone ?

      Nope. I'm suggesting that the popularity of those shows speaks volumes for those who enjoy them. As another poster pointed out, the "cyber-elite" would most likely be in minority in the same way that the fans of various "cyberpunk" authors are in minority.

      > Perhaps they were popular because they were Soap Opera in Space ?

      Last I checked, Star Trek and Star Trek TNG hardly qualified as "Soap Opera" (DS9 is arguable, but it wasn't as popular). If you are referring to "Space Opera", you'll note that while Opera Houses enjoy quite a bit of popularity in large cities, they nowhere near attract the kind of crowd that mainstream SciFi has enjoyed.

    7. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      > The reason that Star Trek never had this sort of
      > thing was two-fold. ... and two, the show designed
      > to cater to the mainstream, sci-fi or not.

      And there-in you make my point. It is because the general populace finds this sort of SciFi interesting that we can infer their desire to have a future that conforms to the show.

      BTW, while I'm saying that techno-gaget cloths and bodily implants are rejected in Star Trek like universes, we still assume that their clothing is of far more advanced materials that better handle temperature changes, resist tearing, and don't stain. Perhaps they even go as far as to include "smart fibers" that adjust the garment automatically. But if they want extra abilities such as location reporting, armor, and built-in medical assistance, then they do the same thing we do today: wear a suit!

    8. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Gotta love this. Only on Slashdot would an intelligent opinion be proclaimed as "Troll". (rolls eyes)

    9. Re:Impractical by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      My main concern with getting actual implants would be upgradeability. As it is today, if my computer is old and doesn't do what I need it to anymore, I can buy a new one. Imagine if you had to have surgery whenever you wanted to upgrade? Imagine if some of the implants were non-reversible or upgradeable. We all know how computers die after a few years.....what about if something like this dies in your body and you can't remove it?

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    10. Re:Impractical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What fucktard moderator modded the parent as a troll? Cumon moderators, that is +1 informative, at least..

    11. Re:Impractical by SamSim · · Score: 1

      In this respect it would be an awful lot like getting a tattoo. Something I personally would never do.

    12. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      What fucktard moderator modded the parent as a troll? Cumon moderators, that is +1 informative, at least.

      Despite your rather abrasive language, my hat goes off to you, sir.

    13. Re:Impractical by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 1

      I think you'll find that your estimations of popularity are overblown.

      For example, Star Trek Nemesis took $97,500,000 gross at the box office world wide, while Terminator 2 took $514,800,000 (worldwide), and the Matrix Reloaded took in at least that world wide.

      By your logic, people are looking forward to being dominated by machines.

      Correlation != causation.

    14. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      > For example, Star Trek Nemesis took $97,500,000 gross
      > at the box office world wide, while Terminator 2 took
      > $514,800,000 (worldwide), and the Matrix Reloaded took
      > in at least that world wide.

      I assume you mean Terminator 3 as Nemesis and T2 were not contemporary.

      > By your logic, people are looking forward to being dominated by machines.

      Correction. By my logic, people believe that humans will defeat machines if at some point in the future we loose control of them. This is the standard belief (and core of story telling) that the human spirit will always prevail.

      As a counter-point, note the lack of movies where the machines win.

    15. Re:Impractical by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 1

      If I understand your argument, you believe that you can predict the kind of technologies that people will develop from the popularity of sci-fi movies.

      You reason that technologies which predominate cyber-punk stories will *not* be developed simply because dystopian cyberpunk stories are less popular than utopian Star Trek with their transporters and holodecks. My counter-example was to illustrate that movies with a darker view of technology are made, and are popular. The fact that the humans win at the end is hardly a point in your favour. In fact it stresses my point. The popularity of a movie is related to the story about the humans, irrespective of the technology. If Star Trek didn't have transporters, would it be as popular ? Probably. The transporters are ancillary to the characters and the grand sense of adventure in the final frontier.

      I suggest, in contrast, that the popularity of movies reflects the average persons desire for certain types of comfort. Loosely, one could classify all such films concerning possible futures into those which comfort and those which confront. Generally speaking, the average person desires more comfort than confrontation.
      On the other hand, those people who are driven enough to produce new technologies through diligent research are far from the average person.
      One might argue that the technologies which lead to the erosion of society in the dystopian views might come from the kinds of people who seek the edge, seek confrontation.
      Alternatively, I might suggest that the kind of people who are the forefront of thinking in these fields, and who might just be fans of Bladerunner or The Diamond Age, are aware of the dangers enough to do all in their power to prevent such a depressing future from coming about.

      Finally, I humbly suggest that the popularity of sci-fi movies probably has very little to do with what actually happens.

      After all - where's my robot maid and my flying car ?

    16. Re:Impractical by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      If I understand your argument, you believe that you can predict the kind of technologies that people will develop from the popularity of sci-fi movies.


      I don't think you do. My argument is not what technologies people will develop, but instead what technologies the public will be comfortable with. One can't develop a transporter if it violates the laws of nature. However, one can say that they would be comfortable with such a device if it were created.

      After all - where's my robot maid and my flying car ?

      Very simple. They materialized in more realistic forms such as dishwashers and microwaves. Despite the desire of the public for robots that would do their bidding, it was realized that the key enabler (the electronic computer) was missing thus derailing the real life attempts. It's only now that robots such as the Asimov and the Aibo are bringing us to the state of having a robotic maid. Similarly, flying cars have not been realistic due to the for traffic control and safety concerns. There have been several attempts over the years, but it's clear that the enabling technologies are advanced stabilization control, fly-by-wire that will prevent the pilot from making dangerous maneuvers, and remote traffic control to organize traffic into safe and efficient patterns.

    17. Re:Impractical by Razor+Blades+are+Not · · Score: 1

      Still not convincing.
      My point is : the movies of now aren't predictors of what the public of the future will be comfortable with, merely what the public of today is comfortable with.

      Furthermore, the most popular sci-fi movies are about people, not technology. It's the trials and tribulations of the characters which people relate to. The future is just another backdrop. All this tells me is that people like movies which are about people. How many all-alien movies are there ? None. It's about how we deal with the aliens that people want to know about. Substitute Robots, clones, Technology-with-social-ramifications for "aliens" and you see where this is going.
      Future technology in movies is usually Backdrop, Barrier or Social Issue. Transporters are merely a way of getting to the action quickly - backdrop. They've briefly soujourned as a "Barrier" when there's some technobabble reason they don't work, and they've moonlighted as social issue when there's some fundamental questioning about the way they work (they tear you into little pieces and re-assemble you somewhere else... what happens when your "pattern" is recreated but you aren't properly destroyed (Rikers twin) or two patterns are merged (Tuvix)? etc..)
      There are dozens of other examples, but in all of them it is the way the characters handle these issues, not the underlying technology itself which engages the viewer.

      What you're suggesting, however, is that we can guess that the public of the future will be comfortable with certain concepts just because they appear in entertainment media in the present.

      I don't think history supports your viewpoint. Extrapolate into the past and ask the question of Sci-Fi as of 60 years ago. Are there things we of the present tolerate now that were unheard of in the 40's and 50's ? Are there things we don't tolerate now that people then were looking forward too ?
      Of course there are. Ergo, I can't see your theory holds up.

  45. They watched Back to the Future II by robogun · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Drying mode on...
    "Your jacket is now dry."

    1. Re:They watched Back to the Future II by JediTrainer · · Score: 1

      Heh. I couldn't help but notice in the movie that his hair ended up being dry after that too.

      How long until I can get me one of those jackets? 2015 is only 12 years away, folks!....

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  46. Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now another thing to plug in every night... come on... let's perfect the solar cell first, huh?

  47. Why the obsession with Invisibility? by roxy-skya · · Score: 1

    Other than military use, why is there such an obsession here with being Invisible?

    Is it really necessary to accomplish what you're attempting? Besides wouldn't it be dangerous if other's couldn't see you and potentially put you in harm's way? Who would be at fault then, and how would the legal system handle those battles?

    How about using this technology to better society and do something practical, rather than the immature comments about porn and sex, usually found within every Slashdot article.

    Come on guys, you're smart...do something with this that is important to society.

    1. Re:Why the obsession with Invisibility? by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 1
      immature comments about porn and sex
      Funny, I didn't see anything in my post about sex or porn. As to the relevance of my post, I'm a technophile, this is a technology site .... come to think of it you are right it was completely out of line. I should listen to what pretensios pricks, with their panties in a knot from riding on their high horses, say more often.
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  48. Political lie detector ties? by wardk · · Score: 1

    This could be applied by a frustrated, untrusting citizenry.

    we could force all elected and appointed government officials to wear "lie detectorware". the fabric turns beet red whenever they spout bullshit.

    1. Re:Political lie detector ties? by Z-r0e_G · · Score: 1

      So it would only not be beet red when they are asleep? Maybe.

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  49. I was alarmed, at first... by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

    ...when I read this part:

    Eventually, buildings could also be augmented with camera arrays inconspicuously embedded into wallpaper fabric to scan for intruders. In CMU's prototype, every sensing node uses small cameras and Atmel 8051 processors, running at 70 MHz and consuming up to 500 mW each, to analyze images for possible security breaches and then stream the video to a central display. Redundant devices keep the system running in case of local battery depletion or other types of failures.

    But then quickly a quote from everyone's favorite movie sprung to mind:

    "There's way too much information to decode the Matrix. All I see anymore is blonde... brunette... redhead. ... I'll give ya a little piece of advice: If you see an agent, you do what we do. Run."

    And once again I realized that no matter how bad it gets, ultimately it's all the same as before, and no one can actually control or design any kind of dystopian future as described in the book 1984. All ya gotta do is reconcile whether you want to embrace the new technologies and make the best of what we've got, or if you want to relegate yourself to living "the old way" like an Amish person.

    1. Re:I was alarmed, at first... by mcglothi · · Score: 1

      Major corporate security systems today (for the most part) focus more on event based video rather than constant surveillance.

      The thinking here is that if a security officer stares at a bank of monitors for an entire shift, day after day, and nothing is happening, it just becomes a blur. However, with event based video, the video pops up only when events (such as door forced open, or door held open) occur. Much more of an attention getter.

      I would think the facilities folks would be more interested in this technology than the security groups, they could incorporate needed video coverage without having domes or cameras hanging from the ceiling.

  50. No thanks by ecantona · · Score: 2, Funny

    Software controls the communications inside the on-fabric network and can send radio signals using Bluetooth or any flavor of the IEEE 802.11 wireless standard to PCs and PDAs, and over the Internet.

    I am sure someone can find a way to hack it and put malicious content on your t-shirt. Let say you are walking down the street and suddenly someone put some porn on your shirt, that can be very embarrassing .

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    1. Re:No thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heheh, drive-by goatse-ing

  51. like my raincoat by ShaggyBOFH · · Score: 1
    Ya, but is it reversable?

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  52. stain matching by foxhound01 · · Score: 0

    now you can wear a white shirt to eat spaghetti, and leave with a spaghetti sauce colored shirt...maybe italian food WILL have a second coming...

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  53. Duh... by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
    Invisible clothes for women... Sheesh.

    How about using this technology to better society and do something practical, rather than the immature comments about porn and sex, usually found within every Slashdot article.

    Ooops. ;)

    -T

  54. Look at transmetropolitan for the alternate view. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    THe same people who are getting multiple piercings and tatoos with green hair and punk clotes today are the same ones who in 100 years will have the video screens built into their chests and the headlines playing across their forehead. Everyone else will just have animplanted hone and nanotech medical devices. Exelent comic series BTW

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  55. Re:Then a Boewulf cluster would be... by DrFlex · · Score: 0

    Whatever turns you on my friend.

  56. I will pay money by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    to the first person who develops the hack to make a woman's clothes show me what's on the other side.

    LK

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  57. I JUST LOGGED ONTO MY UNDERPANTS!! by stratjakt · · Score: 1


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    1. Re:I JUST LOGGED ONTO MY UNDERPANTS!! by mesach · · Score: 1

      I would think that you would have LOGGED INTO YOUR UNDERPANTS.

      Get it, see.... oh, nevermind.

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  58. Now teenagers have a new fear when dating.... by linkdead · · Score: 0

    Little Johnny might just find Suzie's daddy waiting shotgun in hand when he arrives home....electronic pants paged him...

  59. Amish Strip Clubs!!! by 4/3PI*R^3 · · Score: 1
    Now women can be fully dressed yet appear completely nude. As strippers dance each piece of clothing will slowly display the image of the persons body directly beneath it.
    Not only that but magine the other possibilities:

    furry bush for the first dance, landing strip for the second dance, slip & slide clean for the third dance, and back to furry bush for the fourth dance.

    If the guy requesting a lap dance likes big round nipples, no problem. When the next guy wants small nipples, he's happy too.

    Excuse me as I go to the ATM!!!!!

  60. Hate to be a naysayer, but ... by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

    Why would I want a cell phone/pda/mp3/etc. in my shirt/pants/jacket/etc? That would mean I would have to either wear the same shirt/pants/jacket/etc every day, or several articles of clothing would need to be wired.

    And if that happened, which one would ring when I got a call and was in the shower?? The towel or the toilet cover??

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  61. Idea for use by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    Teeshirt which can display text +
    GPS tracking of Daryl McBride =

    The perfect "I'm with stupid" teeshirt.

  62. Black Berets from China by spartan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is probably what China did when US Army GEN Eric Shinseki, formerly Chief of Staff of the Army, ordered the Army to wear Black Berets. China actually landed some of the contracts for producing these berets and are now tracking US soldiers as they deploy around the world.

    1. Re:Black Berets from China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except U.S. soldiers don't wear black berets into combat, so all they'd end up tracking is the laundromat.

  63. Glad bags + Symantec? by Zildy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Norton AntiVirus for Clothing 2003 3-Ply Edition

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  64. I'll have to get one... by TLouden · · Score: 1

    to go with my computer-in-an-overcoat. 10-20 years and maybe we'll all wear our entire business. Just put on your glasses and start working.

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  65. The clothes are washable, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For some reason, it seems like that is kind of redundant for slashdot readers..

  66. Are you insinuating something? by fruity1983 · · Score: 1

    Oh, and the smart fabric is washable too.

    Are you saying that us slashdotters would pursue technological godliness even if it meant we had to be stinky and sweaty all the time?

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  67. You're all missing the point... by IDigUNIX · · Score: 1

    ...the point isn't to stare at the "video" on some hottie's clothes. The point is to hack the zipper/clasps/belts/buttons HOLD the clothes on the hottie. Duh!

  68. Re:Look at transmetropolitan for the alternate vie by sexylicious · · Score: 1

    Those are going to be some old people.

  69. hmmm by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    sounds like a plan to track people down, all hail big brother, it could have noble uses, but also have uses (which are usually used) that will spy on people.

    scary, really.

  70. clothing i hear? by sewagemaster · · Score: 1


    woohoo! DeCess tshirts!

  71. Re:slashdotted (+1 Informative) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up...

  72. Actuators and sensors... The Tuxedo!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C'mon, this sounds like what the Tuxedo (starring Jackie Chan in a computer super-suit) could do...

    And hackers would become big bullies, remotely causing people to become victims of "Stop hittin' yerself. Stop hittin' yerself. Stop hittin' yerself."

  73. Re:slashdotted (+1 Informative) by Enraged_jawa · · Score: 1

    Mod parent's parent up.

  74. "txt" for help?? by lcsjk · · Score: 1

    Every oldtimer and HAM radio operator knows that you XMT for help, not txt. And for you newcomers and softies, that stands for "transmit".

  75. Hmm. Applications? by Shoten · · Score: 1

    Ok, not that I in any way doubt that there are immense applications for this technology, but the person/people who came up with the possible applications is/are morons. "A fire chief...could order his team out when the sensors they're wearing transmit data back to his command center telling him that the firefighters are inhaling hazardous fumes or too much smoke or that the fire is too hot to handle." How about just telling THEM so THEY can get the hell out under their own initiative? And "Such attire could have warned the U.S. Postal Service team manager that Armstrong was becoming dehydrated as he was warming up." Lance didn't lose 6.5 Kg of water warming up, he was cycling the fricking Tour de France! That kind of water loss is inevitable. As it is there is an entire cadre of team members for each team just to carry water in the pack so that he can replenish during a regular road race; during a time trial he is only able to carry one or two bottles and is not accompanied by other riders who can carry additional water. And in this example, what the HELL is a set of sensors going to do to change that?

    I guess what I'm saying here is that technology is wonderful, but before people start fawning over the possible applications, they need to actually KNOW about them first. Otherwise, they blow their proverbial load on a complete non-issue, discrediting themselves and jepoardizing the adoption of the tech in general. This is, in some cases, what happened with the dot com boom/bust.

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  76. Goddamn it. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    MAybe in 1000 years my brain will have a built in spellcheck.

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  77. Flying Cars by Bugmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The article is very heavy on breathless anticipation, and very light on details. It reminds me of all the "flying cars" types of articles from the 50s. Oh, how wonderful will it be when each household can have a flying car ! No more traffic congestion ! And the cars will fly themselves, too -- just push a button ! Golly gee ! Etc. etc.

    Yes, I agree, I would love to put on my e-textile t-shirt, hop into my flying car, and fly it to my vacation villa on the Moon. But, as far as I can tell, these technologies are a long, long way off from actual implementation. Our current limits right now are power storage (all that Bluetooth needs to be fed), durability and size (small chips are fine, but we are talking hundreds of pretty powerful computers), architecture (implementing that automatic handoff on failure is hard), cost (buy an e-shirt now ! Only $9999.99 !"), and dozens of other things. Until we can overcome these problems, I am not holding my breath.

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  78. A Beowulf cluster by Strandman · · Score: 1

    When you take your clothes to the laundry

  79. I think the idea... by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 1
    ... is that Mr. Coat tells someone else that you have crashed. You know, someone that can check to see if you are hurt, unconscious, face down in the snow, bleeding to death, etc.

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    1. Re:I think the idea... by Vaughn+Anderson · · Score: 1
      ... is that Mr. Coat tells someone else that you have crashed.

      Mr.Coat: Hey! Anybody out there? Heeeelllloooo! Hey, buddy just think, if you haddn't been so cheap I would have a cell card in me and I would actually be able to give you a hand..."

      Snowmobile driver: doh!