Maybe it's been pointed out before (gimme a break, there are like 400 posts before mine!) but isn't this a violation of copyright? Tristan Louis pointed me to it last week with that same question!
In any case, I say let the Window fans live in their self-deluded world... and be sure to get a copy or two. Each time you download that thing it takes bandwidth away from the Borg.
You must be thinking of the Dragonball series... CB is pretty much faithful to the original.
Funimation has been doing a real butcher job with DB-DBZ though... whole subplots have been eliminated, objects obviously not in the original show up to strategically hide some characters' nakedness, etc. I guess America needs to have everything "Disneyfied" before they muster the courage of watching it.
The "Windows Update" icon on my taskbar failed to retrieve the patch last night, I had to manually go to the Windows update site and download it. I only discovered this when I started wondering why my VAIO was getting so damn warm, and why the fan hadn't stopped in several hours...
And then they "recommend" that you go for automatic updating. Typical.
Yes, it's said on all sides that we are in a state of war. Yes, it's true that under a state of war the civil rights of people get abridged, that is indeed the usual case. Yes, it's also true that essentially negating crypto is a small price to pay compared to, say, the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII.
HOWEVER, the most current argument that I hear about this, and apparently the most widely-accepted reason behind these measures, is that this is war and that measures have to be taken. This is an extremely dangerous argument, and one which I fear most people are taking way too lightly. This same line of reasoning has been used in the past to detain Japanese-Americans without any other stated reason; it has been used during the so-called "war on drugs" to pass all sorts of laws that directly violated a number of constitutional protections... you know where I am going with this, I think.
If we blindly accept this as a reason to accept repressive government measure without giving the matter another thought, who knows where it might go?
As Katz mentioned, this is no time for knee-jerk reactions, but I think that this goes for both sides. While the current situation pretty much explains itself, I think we ought not to forget that America tends to spend its time involved in some "war" or other and use this self-described state of affairs to justify way too many things. I mean, we gave the Taliban millions of dollars under the guise of the "war on drugs", and more millions to fight the "war on the Soviets" (back when they were just the mujaheddin), so the historical record seems highly doubtful on whether the US response will end up easing the situation or merely making it worse.
Sorry if this is not what people want to hear these days, but the observations are valid. The last thing I want to see is more of what took place last week -- I live and work right across the river from the scene in NYC, and the images are burned in my mind, I assure you -- but I don't think it really serves the greater good if the events make us all turn into unquestioning yes-men.
Atmosphere? Sounds great... unless you have Linux. Or a Mac. Or anything but Windows. You know, there was a time when Adobe released stuff for non-Microsoft OS's...
That is the whole point -- keeping the customer waiting is simply not good policy.
You seem to have a shipping date for Photoshop for X -- that makes exactly one of you. Adobe has consistently refused to commit themselves to a ship date for any of their X-native product, except for Acrobat Reader -- and even then the installer itself was a Classic app, which tells me a lot about Adobe's attitude to the whole thing.
In fact, Adobe seems to have only two projects for X which are currently anywhere near beta -- Illustrator (mostly due to Macromedia's releasing Freehand for X months ago) and InDesign, an app no one apparently wants to buy.
Linux 1.0 may have sucked (frankly I don't know), but no one had to dish out $100 to get it. Nor was it being pushed onto an existing customer base.
For some reason I have always had a predilection for underdogs... and that's why I'll always have a soft spot for Cupertino. Without Apple I really do feel that the computer industry is headed in a very dull and bloated way, especially with the Gates-and-Uncle-Fester mantra of "all your base are belong to us".
At the same time I am frankly quite tired of fighting that old fight. OS X is good, but frankly, where are the big apps? Adobe is shamelessly dragging its feet, even after Apple went out of their way to create Carbon as a way to port the "classic" apps to the new OS natively. Apple itself has dumped some technologies that were pretty essential to the old OS (like Input Sprockets), and for all its UNIX underpinnings OS X remains a classic Jobsian top-down project. Sure, you can hack it, but only to a certain extent. So it fails in achieving the sheer usefulness in graphic design that the "classic" MacOS has, the do-it-yourself aspects of Linux, and the ubiquitousness of the lowest common denominator, which shall here remain nameless.
Technologically OS X was a great idea. In the practical world it didn't quite turn out that way. This isn't about whether people like Aqua or not, this is about whether the OS can deliver a platform which is useful in my daily life, and sadly I can't say that it does at this point.
And that's why my Mac gets used less and less, and my cheap "roll-your-own" Linux box with a 1.3G Athlon processor gets most of the attention at my place these days. "Back in the day" I was an ardent a fan of Apple as they get (I'm one of those weirdos with a tatoo, of all things), and I don't regret those days, but people change. Computers change. And computer companies sure as hell change. I just think that Apple has seriously lost its way, and that instead of concentrating on their concrete, established strengths they have decided to open whole new cans of worms for the sake of some abstract (though very valid) OS concepts, and in doing so they really lost track of what put them where they were -- not the majority by any stretch, but a strong minority that was loyal as hell and a constant pain the Borg's butt.
I've been running it for over a year now, very few complaints. 7.2 is definitely worth it. Another plus is, it comes in i386, PowerPC, Alpha and SPARC varieties.
...in a USA which places cops squarely above the law in just about every respect?
Yes, these databases are pretty damn frightening, but they would be a whole lot less spooky if law enforcement officials were held to the rule of criminal law and tort law to which the "rabble" (read: rest of us) are bound.
The only highly public case which I can think of offhand of a police officer going to prison for misdeeds was the Abner Louima case, and this occurred mostly because the behavior in question had nothing to do with law enforcement, and the act itself was so egregiously subhuman that nothing could excuse it. Yet Louima is still alive.
The same cannot be said for Amadou Diallo. Or Patrick Dorismond. The undercover cops who were involved in these cases are, today... still weapon-carrying cops.
Seeing CNET, an Intel-owned company (to a great extent) actually granting OS X the palm.
This sounds like a better story for Plastic than Slashdot, however, as OS X weakly points at the existing open-source projects in the software section. It sounds like it's the first time the CNET people have heard of X-Windows. Where have these people been all these years?
I had to giggle when I heard the Win2k guy say, "well if you have to recompile doesn't that mean that it's not compatible?" LOL! I'll bet this guy wouldn't know a tarball if it came up and bit him on the tuckus!
Actually, if I may play the devil's advocate here -- Apple was marketing its dual processor G4 systems "MP" at least a year ago, way before "XP" was even the proverbial "glint in the milkman's eye" over at Redmond! This being said, 'MP' has been the short way to say "multi-processor" for as far back as I can remember, so I'm not claiming they came up with it.
And Apple was the first to decide on X as the monicker for its BSD-based OS, though at least it had the taste to point out that X was merely the roman numeral for 10.
Of course they royally screwed that explanation by (currently) referring to the system as OS X 10.0 (!). Must be something in the air in Cupertino:-)
Microsoft's naming efforts are rather pathetic in this area. The XP "brand" was a clear steal from Apple's "OS X", unless Steve Ballmer is going to claim that the new versions of Office and Windows (are you eXPerienced?) will make you high like you're on acid, or lose your virginity, or (more likely) lose all the hair on top of your head, presumably by making you pull it all out in frustration.
It's not to say that "OS X" was terribly original in light of Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" (1989?) and "The X Files", but at least OS X/10 did follow OS 9.
And wouldn't you know, there is an OS X native solution for those who use X-10 home automation devices... it's all a conspiracy, I tell ya!
Now if only Apple could find a way to make sure people don't think Microsoft came up with it first...
400W is no biggie, it's being recommended even for a single P4 processor. You can get one of those at J & R's Computer World in NYC for $80, or order it from them.
You'll definitely need a case full of fans though! My 1.2G Athlon system will be heating my home office this winter all by itself!
Could be useful for those of us in the northern parts of America as a furnace:-) As one man who's seen a 1G Athlon fry itself in seconds just because its heatsink was misaligned I can tell you that these babies are hot!
Didn't prevent me from replacing it with a 1.2G Athlon though... it's still "Anything but Intel Inside" for me...
Good old John, it's nice to see just how "on the ball" he has tended to be in his predictions of the past four years or so...
You know, things like, say, the iMac will fail because it doesn't have a floppy, the iBook will fail because it's too "girly"... those two models may have sold in the millions, but you can still bet that John's shaking the ol' finger of doom!
And he used to be so widely respected... oh well. I guess that's what happens when people stay on way past their prime retirement time.
This "tuxpenguin" doesn't sound like the most astute of guys. The PDF clearly mentions that it was made by the Institute of Policy Studies. What's that nonsense about "I don't know where it came from"?
Well, in any case it sounds like the IPS, which as has been pointed out already is a leftist think-tank out of DC, has wised up to how to get./ers to read anything -- present it as some kind of a so-called "secret document" distributed (possibly) on a P2P network. I'd expect a little more street cred on this forum, but evidently we're all begging to be "had" by that sort of tactic.
Also a little odd is that M$ is nowhere to be seen, as several have pointed out.
I would've thought of donating old servers to some non-profit start-up
As someone who has been struck by the current recession a little more than most, I would think that the expression non-profit startup is a little redundant...
Sheesh, I've been looking through the posts, and boy does everyone here seem confused.
SuSE 7.1 has been available for download for at least a month now on ppc, and includes k_2.4.2 (pretty stable, a few kinks) and Xfree 4. With drivers for the R128, I might add.
I can't say for YDL, since I can't install it entirely off FTP (I can, and have, done that with SuSE). They seem to have a pretty good system -- if you buy the package you get licensed, commercial sw which is not offered online, and you also get installation support, etc. Perhaps YDL ought to consider this sort of arrangement for their next release... by the time the FTP distro is available I'll have customized my system way too much to consider installing new core sw, and as a result I doubt I'll be likely to install it...
Don't get me wrong -- I don't want to take the sail out of YDL, but they're not the only one apart from LinuxPPC, and they're not the first one with Xfree 4.
Let's own up, it's not exactly like Spam had a terrific reputation before "unwanted commercial email" came along, now is it?
Kudos to Hormel for at least realizing that accidental and even ironic product placement can be good publicity sometimes. How many of us techies (and esp. network administrators) have bought a can of the stuff just to use as a sort of "mascot"?
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Maybe it's been pointed out before (gimme a break, there are like 400 posts before mine!) but isn't this a violation of copyright? Tristan Louis pointed me to it last week with that same question!
In any case, I say let the Window fans live in their self-deluded world... and be sure to get a copy or two. Each time you download that thing it takes bandwidth away from the Borg.
Oh my! I think we found the one /.er who actually thinks this administration has a plan for anything.
Didn't I read about this on Fark this morning? :-)
You must be thinking of the Dragonball series... CB is pretty much faithful to the original.
Funimation has been doing a real butcher job with DB-DBZ though... whole subplots have been eliminated, objects obviously not in the original show up to strategically hide some characters' nakedness, etc. I guess America needs to have everything "Disneyfied" before they muster the courage of watching it.
The "Windows Update" icon on my taskbar failed to retrieve the patch last night, I had to manually go to the Windows update site and download it. I only discovered this when I started wondering why my VAIO was getting so damn warm, and why the fan hadn't stopped in several hours...
And then they "recommend" that you go for automatic updating. Typical.
We might still be rodent like creatures...
That explains politicians, the MPAA and the RIAA...
Yes, it's said on all sides that we are in a state of war. Yes, it's true that under a state of war the civil rights of people get abridged, that is indeed the usual case. Yes, it's also true that essentially negating crypto is a small price to pay compared to, say, the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII.
HOWEVER, the most current argument that I hear about this, and apparently the most widely-accepted reason behind these measures, is that this is war and that measures have to be taken. This is an extremely dangerous argument, and one which I fear most people are taking way too lightly. This same line of reasoning has been used in the past to detain Japanese-Americans without any other stated reason; it has been used during the so-called "war on drugs" to pass all sorts of laws that directly violated a number of constitutional protections... you know where I am going with this, I think.
If we blindly accept this as a reason to accept repressive government measure without giving the matter another thought, who knows where it might go?
As Katz mentioned, this is no time for knee-jerk reactions, but I think that this goes for both sides. While the current situation pretty much explains itself, I think we ought not to forget that America tends to spend its time involved in some "war" or other and use this self-described state of affairs to justify way too many things. I mean, we gave the Taliban millions of dollars under the guise of the "war on drugs", and more millions to fight the "war on the Soviets" (back when they were just the mujaheddin), so the historical record seems highly doubtful on whether the US response will end up easing the situation or merely making it worse.
Sorry if this is not what people want to hear these days, but the observations are valid. The last thing I want to see is more of what took place last week -- I live and work right across the river from the scene in NYC, and the images are burned in my mind, I assure you -- but I don't think it really serves the greater good if the events make us all turn into unquestioning yes-men.
Atmosphere? Sounds great... unless you have Linux. Or a Mac. Or anything but Windows. You know, there was a time when Adobe released stuff for non-Microsoft OS's...
Out of curiosity, are laptop batteries always made up of a large number of linked, smaller, cylindrical batteries?
Actually shouldn't it be "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you"?
Take that, monkey boy!
That is the whole point -- keeping the customer waiting is simply not good policy.
You seem to have a shipping date for Photoshop for X -- that makes exactly one of you. Adobe has consistently refused to commit themselves to a ship date for any of their X-native product, except for Acrobat Reader -- and even then the installer itself was a Classic app, which tells me a lot about Adobe's attitude to the whole thing.
In fact, Adobe seems to have only two projects for X which are currently anywhere near beta -- Illustrator (mostly due to Macromedia's releasing Freehand for X months ago) and InDesign, an app no one apparently wants to buy.
Linux 1.0 may have sucked (frankly I don't know), but no one had to dish out $100 to get it. Nor was it being pushed onto an existing customer base.
For some reason I have always had a predilection for underdogs... and that's why I'll always have a soft spot for Cupertino. Without Apple I really do feel that the computer industry is headed in a very dull and bloated way, especially with the Gates-and-Uncle-Fester mantra of "all your base are belong to us".
At the same time I am frankly quite tired of fighting that old fight. OS X is good, but frankly, where are the big apps? Adobe is shamelessly dragging its feet, even after Apple went out of their way to create Carbon as a way to port the "classic" apps to the new OS natively. Apple itself has dumped some technologies that were pretty essential to the old OS (like Input Sprockets), and for all its UNIX underpinnings OS X remains a classic Jobsian top-down project. Sure, you can hack it, but only to a certain extent. So it fails in achieving the sheer usefulness in graphic design that the "classic" MacOS has, the do-it-yourself aspects of Linux, and the ubiquitousness of the lowest common denominator, which shall here remain nameless.
Technologically OS X was a great idea. In the practical world it didn't quite turn out that way. This isn't about whether people like Aqua or not, this is about whether the OS can deliver a platform which is useful in my daily life, and sadly I can't say that it does at this point.
And that's why my Mac gets used less and less, and my cheap "roll-your-own" Linux box with a 1.3G Athlon processor gets most of the attention at my place these days. "Back in the day" I was an ardent a fan of Apple as they get (I'm one of those weirdos with a tatoo, of all things), and I don't regret those days, but people change. Computers change. And computer companies sure as hell change. I just think that Apple has seriously lost its way, and that instead of concentrating on their concrete, established strengths they have decided to open whole new cans of worms for the sake of some abstract (though very valid) OS concepts, and in doing so they really lost track of what put them where they were -- not the majority by any stretch, but a strong minority that was loyal as hell and a constant pain the Borg's butt.
You gotta love that Geeko (the mascot)!
I've been running it for over a year now, very few complaints. 7.2 is definitely worth it. Another plus is, it comes in i386, PowerPC, Alpha and SPARC varieties.
...in a USA which places cops squarely above the law in just about every respect?
Yes, these databases are pretty damn frightening, but they would be a whole lot less spooky if law enforcement officials were held to the rule of criminal law and tort law to which the "rabble" (read: rest of us) are bound.
The only highly public case which I can think of offhand of a police officer going to prison for misdeeds was the Abner Louima case, and this occurred mostly because the behavior in question had nothing to do with law enforcement, and the act itself was so egregiously subhuman that nothing could excuse it. Yet Louima is still alive.
The same cannot be said for Amadou Diallo. Or Patrick Dorismond. The undercover cops who were involved in these cases are, today... still weapon-carrying cops.
Bring... the cushions!
And the comfy chair too!
Seeing CNET, an Intel-owned company (to a great extent) actually granting OS X the palm.
This sounds like a better story for Plastic than Slashdot, however, as OS X weakly points at the existing open-source projects in the software section. It sounds like it's the first time the CNET people have heard of X-Windows. Where have these people been all these years?
I had to giggle when I heard the Win2k guy say, "well if you have to recompile doesn't that mean that it's not compatible?" LOL! I'll bet this guy wouldn't know a tarball if it came up and bit him on the tuckus!
Actually, if I may play the devil's advocate here -- Apple was marketing its dual processor G4 systems "MP" at least a year ago, way before "XP" was even the proverbial "glint in the milkman's eye" over at Redmond! This being said, 'MP' has been the short way to say "multi-processor" for as far back as I can remember, so I'm not claiming they came up with it.
And Apple was the first to decide on X as the monicker for its BSD-based OS, though at least it had the taste to point out that X was merely the roman numeral for 10.
Of course they royally screwed that explanation by (currently) referring to the system as OS X 10.0 (!). Must be something in the air in Cupertino :-)
Microsoft's naming efforts are rather pathetic in this area. The XP "brand" was a clear steal from Apple's "OS X", unless Steve Ballmer is going to claim that the new versions of Office and Windows (are you eXPerienced?) will make you high like you're on acid, or lose your virginity, or (more likely) lose all the hair on top of your head, presumably by making you pull it all out in frustration.
It's not to say that "OS X" was terribly original in light of Douglas Coupland's "Generation X" (1989?) and "The X Files", but at least OS X/10 did follow OS 9.
And wouldn't you know, there is an OS X native solution for those who use X-10 home automation devices... it's all a conspiracy, I tell ya!
Now if only Apple could find a way to make sure people don't think Microsoft came up with it first...
400W is no biggie, it's being recommended even for a single P4 processor. You can get one of those at J & R's Computer World in NYC for $80, or order it from them.
You'll definitely need a case full of fans though! My 1.2G Athlon system will be heating my home office this winter all by itself!
Could be useful for those of us in the northern parts of America as a furnace :-) As one man who's seen a 1G Athlon fry itself in seconds just because its heatsink was misaligned I can tell you that these babies are hot!
Didn't prevent me from replacing it with a 1.2G Athlon though... it's still "Anything but Intel Inside" for me...
Good old John, it's nice to see just how "on the ball" he has tended to be in his predictions of the past four years or so...
You know, things like, say, the iMac will fail because it doesn't have a floppy, the iBook will fail because it's too "girly"... those two models may have sold in the millions, but you can still bet that John's shaking the ol' finger of doom!
And he used to be so widely respected... oh well. I guess that's what happens when people stay on way past their prime retirement time.
Come on, this sounds pretty blatant...
This "tuxpenguin" doesn't sound like the most astute of guys. The PDF clearly mentions that it was made by the Institute of Policy Studies. What's that nonsense about "I don't know where it came from"?
Well, in any case it sounds like the IPS, which as has been pointed out already is a leftist think-tank out of DC, has wised up to how to get ./ers to read anything -- present it as some kind of a so-called "secret document" distributed (possibly) on a P2P network. I'd expect a little more street cred on this forum, but evidently we're all begging to be "had" by that sort of tactic.
Also a little odd is that M$ is nowhere to be seen, as several have pointed out.
I would've thought of donating old servers to some non-profit start-up
As someone who has been struck by the current recession a little more than most, I would think that the expression non-profit startup is a little redundant...
Sheesh, I've been looking through the posts, and boy does everyone here seem confused.
SuSE 7.1 has been available for download for at least a month now on ppc, and includes k_2.4.2 (pretty stable, a few kinks) and Xfree 4. With drivers for the R128, I might add.
I can't say for YDL, since I can't install it entirely off FTP (I can, and have, done that with SuSE). They seem to have a pretty good system -- if you buy the package you get licensed, commercial sw which is not offered online, and you also get installation support, etc. Perhaps YDL ought to consider this sort of arrangement for their next release... by the time the FTP distro is available I'll have customized my system way too much to consider installing new core sw, and as a result I doubt I'll be likely to install it...
Don't get me wrong -- I don't want to take the sail out of YDL, but they're not the only one apart from LinuxPPC, and they're not the first one with Xfree 4.
Let's own up, it's not exactly like Spam had a terrific reputation before "unwanted commercial email" came along, now is it?
Kudos to Hormel for at least realizing that accidental and even ironic product placement can be good publicity sometimes. How many of us techies (and esp. network administrators) have bought a can of the stuff just to use as a sort of "mascot"?