And yet in spite of this list's confirmed fakeness, Conroy has threatened that anyone distributing this confirmed fake list will be subject to investigation by federal police and suffer criminal prosecution.
Hey, it sounds like they've adopted scientology technology! Way to go Australia!
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It can be really frustrating to try to work with something that almost meets your needs, but you spend more time trying to get the tool to do what you want than actually using the tool to do anything productive.
Well, you pretty much echo my point.
You see, the thing is, I understand (I don't own an iPhone, but would if it weren't for the restrictions) a third party does make an app which works reasonably well for video recording. It'll record up to 45 frames per second (based in ambient light so they say), and encode to mpeg4 with in real time, and allow you to upload to Youtube from the phone once you're done recording. It costs $25, but Apple won't allow them to sell on their app server, because of various lame reasons.
There's also another free project which records to mjpeg at up to 15 frames/sec (which is actually reasonably smooth for most things), but to use any of these third party apps you have to jailbreak your phone... However, that you have to do anything at all to achieve what should have been basic functionality (it must have not been that difficult afterall) out of a luxury item like this... It's discouraging to say the least.
It can be really frustrating to try to work with something that almost meets your needs, but you spend more time trying to get the tool to do what you want than actually using the tool to do anything productive.
Again, I have to say, you're right. This is the one and only reason why I haven't been arsed to buy an iPhone and the ridiculously expensive plan which comes along with it. If they would have spent fewer man-hours making the DRM work, they could have had an excellent, Earth shattering product.
Seriously. If a couple amateurs can get it to work at some level despite every restriction they had in their way, there's just no excuse. Even if it sucked, it'd be better than nothing.
They market the phone to replace a number of gadgets people might carry around, and they sort of do it (mostly). That's the most frustrating thing of all. If Apple's iPhone division was running a marathon, it'd be like this: they'd start an hour and a half late, but regardless, they'd relentlessly catch up with the rest of the competitors. Then, they'd blaze ahead of the competition for the rest of the race--but they'd stop 20 feet before the finish line and just sit down right there, completely unexhausted, but protesting the idea of moving another inch.
I think secretly I want it to be true....no wait, not secretly, I just want that EMP to happen
After spending way too many hours in a datacenter today (which, incidentally sounds about like 10000 vacuum cleaners), I could care less about escaping kids, but if an EMP could put an end to the buzzing in my head, I'd strongly consider it.
You seriously need to relax because you're putting different words and trying to apply them to me. I said outright that the victim is justified in doing whatever is necessary to defend against an attacker. I said it explicitly in my reply which you replied to.
Perhaps your keyboard uses stealth technology because I still don't see where you explicitly stated this, furthermore, it seemed like you were passive-aggressively against people carrying what are some of the best tools to help avoid becoming a victim--besides the big organ between your ears, nature's most versatile defensive structure.
You're making a horrible assumption that a victim will know ahead of time that she is getting raped, by ahead of time I mean have enough time to recognize she's being attacked because once the confrontation has begun the attacker is just as close to the weapon as the defender, the shot will never get off.
I'm going to echo a lot with Shakrai, he beat me to it.
I'd hope she knows she's in danger, unlike hollywood's cliched "attractive young blond in high heels stumbling down into the basement", most people aren't completely oblivious to the threats which ultimately befall them. Just to be clear, we're not talking about a hypothetical Helen Keller here. Normal, able bodied, and fully sensed people, at the very least, have access to a thing people in lab coats like to call "situational awareness", or as a layman might say, "paying attention." Whether or not they chose to listen to (or aren't distracted from) their basic survival mechanisms, is ultimately up to the user.
A firearm is simply a tool which allows one to react in a useful way, against a stronger force. In most situations, if you're so late in reacting that you've been grabbed before your alarm bells go off, you've failed all of those fear responses developed during our evolution which helped keep our ancestors from being eaten by Siberian tigers more than 100,000 years ago. And, maybe this sounds callus, but a part of me can't help to be un-saddened when specimens like this are removed from the gene-pool.
One last thing, I teach all of my female students to never use a purse as a holster if they choose to carry a pistol. There are way too many downsides to doing so. You alluded to the biggest one: it's not attached to your body. This makes it susceptible to being removed from you (just what a purse-snatcher needs!), more likely to leave a deadly weapon around untrained people (like the 4 year old child who shot herself with her grandma's purse gun last June), more likely to have negligent discharges. It's just a bad idea. On-body carry might be more difficult for the fairer sex due to body design and want to be fashionable, but I make it a point to show how to integrate other types of carry into their wardrobe.
Furthermore, even if your attacker has managed to get his grubby paws on you, the fight isn't necessarily over, and a pistol isn't out of the equation. That's why there's also (ideally) a hand to hand component in self-defense training, even if it just happens to be centered mostly around firearms. Surprisingly, it happens that for a some women, a basic firearms self-defense course becomes a gateway to more advanced close combat training--which have benefits beyond teaching you how to survive encounters. A friend's Krav Maga class has recruited students by word of mouth from my referred customers, simply because his students were losing weight like crazy, and they were telling their friends--a few of which have become interested in guns. Couldn't make me happier.
I didn't suggest that they weren't justified in resisting, only that a gun is not a close combat weapon...
Whaaa? A gun isn't a close combat weapon? What kind of logic are you using? A Barrett M82 isn't a close range weapon, and it's a gun, so all guns are not close combat weapons? My snubbie S&W with a ~2 inch barrel is good for ranges from contact with a bad guy, maybe up to 20 feet with the adrenaline pumping--anything beyond that, all bets are off. If that's not close combat, nothing is. In fact, that's the primary purpose of every defensive handgun ever conceived.
and usually results in the original carrier losing the weapon
Usually?! LOL. I'd like to see the statistics which have brought you to that conclusion, because as far as I'm aware, when a potential victim brings out a concealed handgun, the confrontation USUALLY ends right there, with the perpetrator running away to find an easier target.. Unless the attacker also has a gun, then a few shots (almost always less than six, I wonder why) may be exchanged, and he still runs away--or he dies because he's not as trained as the person carrying the gun legally.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not attacking gun ownership, only implying that people like you are the reason so many have a problem with it.
No, people like you are the reason so many have a problem with it--because you all are on the side of the attacker. The GP said "women are perfectly justified in using deadly force to resist rape", and you INSTANTLY assume "OMG HE MEANS GUN HURR DURR!". Guns aren't the only kind of deadly force, and when you're being attacked, you're legally and morally justified in using any of them. If you're trained in a martial art, that may constitute a deadly force, and few people are gonna be sad that a woman kicked a rapist in the face and break his neck. Similarly with tree branch/knife/high heel/etc.
I didn't suggest that they weren't justified in resisting, only that a gun is not a close combat weapon and usually results in the original carrier losing the weapon. Pepper spray or stun guns are far better options to defend yourself when in close proximity to your attacker.
If you're so close to the rapist, you're just as likely to get a face full of the CS spray along with him. And you better be an awfully good shot with that stun gun, because you get one shot.
I'll also add that while pepper spray could be turned on a victim it wouldn't kill the victim but you're talking about a particularly violent crime so there are a lot of negative possible outcomes. A woman really should do like a few women in South Africa are trying and wear special protective gear that latches onto the attacker. It's proving quite effective.
Tell you what, we're going to take you and give you a really convincing sex change then we'll drop you off in the middle of Rapesville, South Africa. We'll give you the choice of one.38 loaded special revolver, a speed loader and a holster to effectively conceal it, or a twelve pack of vagina dentatas. I wonder which you'll find to be more reassuring.
really, except for things like cars that you register, have any of us paid "use tax"?
Hell, I'm pretty sure 99.5% of us don't even know it exists, and of the half percent which does, they probably don't fully comprehend just how incredibly retarded the idea is.
As for me, every time I have to tabulate and submit my small business' sales tax, there's a not-so-small part of me which would rather blow his brains out than have to deal with that bullshit. If I met the bastard who came up with this stuff in a dark alley, he'd be in big trouble.
US Subs at least, (can't speak to UK and French sub technology) are supposed to already have a pretty advanced array of non-emitting sensors, including very sensitive gravimeters capable of detecting and mapping gravitational fields around the ship (as I understand it, primarily for detecting and navigating around earthen features, but probably capable of detecting other vessels at shorter ranges), and a number of electromagnetic sensors for detecting things like mines, which probably work just fine for detecting other large metal objects (like other subs), and probably a few things which aren't supposed to exist...
That said, I expect neither the French or UK submarine fleet is quite as matured as the US fleet, just because of the sheer amount of moola the US has dumped into submarines.
If I were a manufacturer, I wouldn't make anything in the US either. I wouldn't even consider it.
And even if you really, really, wanted to have something made in the US you're almost certainly not going to find someone to manufacture it for you. I've tried. It's next to impossible. The manufacturing and raw materials sources, if they exist in the US at all, are already so specialized that they either won't or simply can't deal with you... Unless you have can order a million or more units from the start, that is.
Even if you wanted and had the capital to start up a plant to manufacture your generic widget, chances are you'd still have to import materials from Canada or Mexico or float it on a boat from China, just to start making something here. It's pretty of sad.
I can just see it now, suddenly the tinfoil hat guys will seem sane since they're marginally protected from being grazed by one of these things!
No, they'll be sane because they've elected to die a quicker death, than the slow, painful and likely death of those who suffer third-degree burns over their entire bodies.
Clearly, you're not familiar with current gun laws in the United States.
Except for a few states with high violent crime rates, you CAN just go around carrying a gun--out in the open, even! Most people don't even notice or care about it, because they're too busy being distracted by mobile phones and other things.
When you carry concealed, in most places you need the permit, as you say. Of course, you're right--even in places where people carry a sidearm openly, it's not the wild west. Then again, the wild west just wasn't all that wild, either... Except for how the white man acted towards the natives, that is. But that's another topic.
IOW, National Westminster, Barclays, HBOS, Lloyd's TSB, Credit Suisse, etc, etc, etc, owns all your Yank arses and every cubic inch of American soil, which they could call in any time they want but won't because they know that as long as they don't call in that loan made in the Teens they own you. The Federal Reserve answer to/them/, NOT the US Government.
Now, there's something I'd love to see. I must admit, I've been needing some target practice.
We have good reason to run away or viciously counterattack with electric flyswatters (my personal favorite).
I'm fond of good ol' CRC non-chlorinated break cleaner at ~$3.00 a can. Drops the bastards near instantly, and if you practice, you can shoot them out of the air! Still, if they leave me alone, I leave them alone.
I'm pretty sure the cult preys upon folks in Hollywood because they're loaded with money and are potentially insecure or can be swayed more easily by their emotions because they're artsy people.
I'm pretty sure they prey upon Hollywood folks simply because they're more visible to the public than Joe-Schmoe, often being at least quasi-celebrities, and are therefore more likely to attract non-Hollywood types to their recruiting centers. I mean, how many people would even know about scientology, if it weren't for just two people--those being Tom Cruise and John Travolta?
Being loaded with cash, insecure, emotionally vulnerable, and intellectually stunted is just icing on the delicious cake.
250g and you get cut off is a limitation in my book. If you don't want to use what you paid for, more power to you. I however, want to use what i purchase.
Sure, it's a limitation, but it's a pretty high limitation, and for most people--even for most power users, it may as well be unlimited. Honestly, what could a residential customer be doing to move that much data? Even if I saturated upload on my home line, for offsite backup, for instance, you're only going to be moving ~100GB/month. If it's really important that you need that kind of throughput, you can certainly afford their commercial offering, and get better data rates (three times the upload, 10Mbps + dl) and no cap. You'll be paying that in hard disk, if you need to download that much.
As to MS/Apple: I guess I missed the context which you replied to, because Canocial is indeed a commercial company, which does rely on good will from many people and institutions.
I don't want to share my now limited bandwidth for some commercial company to give out updates.
And you paid how much for your copy of Ubuntu? Yeah, I thought so.
Besides, if you're on comcast, your "now limited bandwidth", isn't all that limited. For 99.99% of comcast customers, it's practically unlimited, which isn't all that much worse. If you use so much bandwidth that you routinely approach the cap, maybe you aught to upgrade to a commercial service. Also, they actually appear to be using legitimate QoS these days, to appropriately set p2p data as low priority, instead of using the retarded policy of resetting torrent connections.
Well, isn't that funny, Mr. Anonymous. I've been taught by professional grammarians and linguists, that In English and most other Germanic base languages, words, phrases and clauses joined by conjunctions or prepositions admit a full pause between them, therefore they read like a comma.
You've missed it, Jimbo. That was "objects composed of metal, plastic *pause* and silicon based amorphous solids." Apparently your English parsing subroutine is also broken. At any rate, I'm still not sure about the existence, no less mass fabrication of your imaginary plastic and silicon based amorphous solid, or why such a homogenization would be desirable or useful in any way.
If you're still too dense to get what I was gently nudging at: how about the automobile? They've been around the last, oh, four generations or so. I think that counts as long; long enough anyway.
You have to get out more. The notion that "every man" is a shallow, childish consumer-bot who has sexual feelings for a chunk of metal and plastic (don't forget the glass!) is really sad.
No, sir. You must have met a very small, non random sample of set "every man", because your observations are obviously flawed. You are the one who must get out more. Men have long had passion for objects composed of metal, plastic and silicon based amorphous solids. This is just the maintenance of status quo.
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And yet in spite of this list's confirmed fakeness, Conroy has threatened that anyone distributing this confirmed fake list will be subject to investigation by federal police and suffer criminal prosecution.
Hey, it sounds like they've adopted scientology technology! Way to go Australia!
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It can be really frustrating to try to work with something that almost meets your needs, but you spend more time trying to get the tool to do what you want than actually using the tool to do anything productive.
Well, you pretty much echo my point.
You see, the thing is, I understand (I don't own an iPhone, but would if it weren't for the restrictions) a third party does make an app which works reasonably well for video recording. It'll record up to 45 frames per second (based in ambient light so they say), and encode to mpeg4 with in real time, and allow you to upload to Youtube from the phone once you're done recording. It costs $25, but Apple won't allow them to sell on their app server, because of various lame reasons.
There's also another free project which records to mjpeg at up to 15 frames/sec (which is actually reasonably smooth for most things), but to use any of these third party apps you have to jailbreak your phone... However, that you have to do anything at all to achieve what should have been basic functionality (it must have not been that difficult afterall) out of a luxury item like this... It's discouraging to say the least.
It can be really frustrating to try to work with something that almost meets your needs, but you spend more time trying to get the tool to do what you want than actually using the tool to do anything productive.
Again, I have to say, you're right. This is the one and only reason why I haven't been arsed to buy an iPhone and the ridiculously expensive plan which comes along with it. If they would have spent fewer man-hours making the DRM work, they could have had an excellent, Earth shattering product.
Compulsory big spike in the middle of the steering wheel.
I was going to suggest that "safety" barricades should be replaced with big 'ol rusty spikes, but I like your idea better.
Record video from the camera
Seriously. If a couple amateurs can get it to work at some level despite every restriction they had in their way, there's just no excuse. Even if it sucked, it'd be better than nothing.
They market the phone to replace a number of gadgets people might carry around, and they sort of do it (mostly). That's the most frustrating thing of all. If Apple's iPhone division was running a marathon, it'd be like this: they'd start an hour and a half late, but regardless, they'd relentlessly catch up with the rest of the competitors. Then, they'd blaze ahead of the competition for the rest of the race--but they'd stop 20 feet before the finish line and just sit down right there, completely unexhausted, but protesting the idea of moving another inch.
Get off your asses and finish the job, you jerks!
I think secretly I want it to be true....no wait, not secretly, I just want that EMP to happen
After spending way too many hours in a datacenter today (which, incidentally sounds about like 10000 vacuum cleaners), I could care less about escaping kids, but if an EMP could put an end to the buzzing in my head, I'd strongly consider it.
You seriously need to relax because you're putting different words and trying to apply them to me. I said outright that the victim is justified in doing whatever is necessary to defend against an attacker. I said it explicitly in my reply which you replied to.
Perhaps your keyboard uses stealth technology because I still don't see where you explicitly stated this, furthermore, it seemed like you were passive-aggressively against people carrying what are some of the best tools to help avoid becoming a victim--besides the big organ between your ears, nature's most versatile defensive structure.
You're making a horrible assumption that a victim will know ahead of time that she is getting raped, by ahead of time I mean have enough time to recognize she's being attacked because once the confrontation has begun the attacker is just as close to the weapon as the defender, the shot will never get off.
I'm going to echo a lot with Shakrai, he beat me to it.
I'd hope she knows she's in danger, unlike hollywood's cliched "attractive young blond in high heels stumbling down into the basement", most people aren't completely oblivious to the threats which ultimately befall them. Just to be clear, we're not talking about a hypothetical Helen Keller here. Normal, able bodied, and fully sensed people, at the very least, have access to a thing people in lab coats like to call "situational awareness", or as a layman might say, "paying attention." Whether or not they chose to listen to (or aren't distracted from) their basic survival mechanisms, is ultimately up to the user.
A firearm is simply a tool which allows one to react in a useful way, against a stronger force. In most situations, if you're so late in reacting that you've been grabbed before your alarm bells go off, you've failed all of those fear responses developed during our evolution which helped keep our ancestors from being eaten by Siberian tigers more than 100,000 years ago. And, maybe this sounds callus, but a part of me can't help to be un-saddened when specimens like this are removed from the gene-pool.
One last thing, I teach all of my female students to never use a purse as a holster if they choose to carry a pistol. There are way too many downsides to doing so. You alluded to the biggest one: it's not attached to your body. This makes it susceptible to being removed from you (just what a purse-snatcher needs!), more likely to leave a deadly weapon around untrained people (like the 4 year old child who shot herself with her grandma's purse gun last June), more likely to have negligent discharges. It's just a bad idea. On-body carry might be more difficult for the fairer sex due to body design and want to be fashionable, but I make it a point to show how to integrate other types of carry into their wardrobe.
Furthermore, even if your attacker has managed to get his grubby paws on you, the fight isn't necessarily over, and a pistol isn't out of the equation. That's why there's also (ideally) a hand to hand component in self-defense training, even if it just happens to be centered mostly around firearms. Surprisingly, it happens that for a some women, a basic firearms self-defense course becomes a gateway to more advanced close combat training--which have benefits beyond teaching you how to survive encounters. A friend's Krav Maga class has recruited students by word of mouth from my referred customers, simply because his students were losing weight like crazy, and they were telling their friends--a few of which have become interested in guns. Couldn't make me happier.
I didn't suggest that they weren't justified in resisting, only that a gun is not a close combat weapon...
Whaaa? A gun isn't a close combat weapon? What kind of logic are you using? A Barrett M82 isn't a close range weapon, and it's a gun, so all guns are not close combat weapons? My snubbie S&W with a ~2 inch barrel is good for ranges from contact with a bad guy, maybe up to 20 feet with the adrenaline pumping--anything beyond that, all bets are off. If that's not close combat, nothing is. In fact, that's the primary purpose of every defensive handgun ever conceived.
and usually results in the original carrier losing the weapon
Usually?! LOL. I'd like to see the statistics which have brought you to that conclusion, because as far as I'm aware, when a potential victim brings out a concealed handgun, the confrontation USUALLY ends right there, with the perpetrator running away to find an easier target.. Unless the attacker also has a gun, then a few shots (almost always less than six, I wonder why) may be exchanged, and he still runs away--or he dies because he's not as trained as the person carrying the gun legally.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not attacking gun ownership, only implying that people like you are the reason so many have a problem with it.
No, people like you are the reason so many have a problem with it--because you all are on the side of the attacker. The GP said "women are perfectly justified in using deadly force to resist rape", and you INSTANTLY assume "OMG HE MEANS GUN HURR DURR!". Guns aren't the only kind of deadly force, and when you're being attacked, you're legally and morally justified in using any of them. If you're trained in a martial art, that may constitute a deadly force, and few people are gonna be sad that a woman kicked a rapist in the face and break his neck. Similarly with tree branch/knife/high heel/etc.
I didn't suggest that they weren't justified in resisting, only that a gun is not a close combat weapon and usually results in the original carrier losing the weapon. Pepper spray or stun guns are far better options to defend yourself when in close proximity to your attacker.
If you're so close to the rapist, you're just as likely to get a face full of the CS spray along with him. And you better be an awfully good shot with that stun gun, because you get one shot.
I'll also add that while pepper spray could be turned on a victim it wouldn't kill the victim but you're talking about a particularly violent crime so there are a lot of negative possible outcomes. A woman really should do like a few women in South Africa are trying and wear special protective gear that latches onto the attacker. It's proving quite effective.
Tell you what, we're going to take you and give you a really convincing sex change then we'll drop you off in the middle of Rapesville, South Africa. We'll give you the choice of one .38 loaded special revolver, a speed loader and a holster to effectively conceal it, or a twelve pack of vagina dentatas. I wonder which you'll find to be more reassuring.
What else can a support of "intelligent" design be but a joke?
What is a pity?
really, except for things like cars that you register, have any of us paid "use tax"?
Hell, I'm pretty sure 99.5% of us don't even know it exists, and of the half percent which does, they probably don't fully comprehend just how incredibly retarded the idea is.
As for me, every time I have to tabulate and submit my small business' sales tax, there's a not-so-small part of me which would rather blow his brains out than have to deal with that bullshit. If I met the bastard who came up with this stuff in a dark alley, he'd be in big trouble.
US Subs at least, (can't speak to UK and French sub technology) are supposed to already have a pretty advanced array of non-emitting sensors, including very sensitive gravimeters capable of detecting and mapping gravitational fields around the ship (as I understand it, primarily for detecting and navigating around earthen features, but probably capable of detecting other vessels at shorter ranges), and a number of electromagnetic sensors for detecting things like mines, which probably work just fine for detecting other large metal objects (like other subs), and probably a few things which aren't supposed to exist...
That said, I expect neither the French or UK submarine fleet is quite as matured as the US fleet, just because of the sheer amount of moola the US has dumped into submarines.
If I were a manufacturer, I wouldn't make anything in the US either. I wouldn't even consider it.
And even if you really, really, wanted to have something made in the US you're almost certainly not going to find someone to manufacture it for you. I've tried. It's next to impossible. The manufacturing and raw materials sources, if they exist in the US at all, are already so specialized that they either won't or simply can't deal with you... Unless you have can order a million or more units from the start, that is.
Even if you wanted and had the capital to start up a plant to manufacture your generic widget, chances are you'd still have to import materials from Canada or Mexico or float it on a boat from China, just to start making something here. It's pretty of sad.
I can just see it now, suddenly the tinfoil hat guys will seem sane since they're marginally protected from being grazed by one of these things!
No, they'll be sane because they've elected to die a quicker death, than the slow, painful and likely death of those who suffer third-degree burns over their entire bodies.
Clearly, you're not familiar with current gun laws in the United States.
Except for a few states with high violent crime rates, you CAN just go around carrying a gun--out in the open, even! Most people don't even notice or care about it, because they're too busy being distracted by mobile phones and other things.
When you carry concealed, in most places you need the permit, as you say. Of course, you're right--even in places where people carry a sidearm openly, it's not the wild west. Then again, the wild west just wasn't all that wild, either... Except for how the white man acted towards the natives, that is. But that's another topic.
IOW, National Westminster, Barclays, HBOS, Lloyd's TSB, Credit Suisse, etc, etc, etc, owns all your Yank arses and every cubic inch of American soil, which they could call in any time they want but won't because they know that as long as they don't call in that loan made in the Teens they own you. The Federal Reserve answer to /them/, NOT the US Government.
Now, there's something I'd love to see. I must admit, I've been needing some target practice.
Awesome work.
We have good reason to run away or viciously counterattack with electric flyswatters (my personal favorite).
I'm fond of good ol' CRC non-chlorinated break cleaner at ~$3.00 a can. Drops the bastards near instantly, and if you practice, you can shoot them out of the air! Still, if they leave me alone, I leave them alone.
You know, you're... you're you don't even--you're glib. That's what you are.
I'm pretty sure the cult preys upon folks in Hollywood because they're loaded with money and are potentially insecure or can be swayed more easily by their emotions because they're artsy people.
I'm pretty sure they prey upon Hollywood folks simply because they're more visible to the public than Joe-Schmoe, often being at least quasi-celebrities, and are therefore more likely to attract non-Hollywood types to their recruiting centers. I mean, how many people would even know about scientology, if it weren't for just two people--those being Tom Cruise and John Travolta?
Being loaded with cash, insecure, emotionally vulnerable, and intellectually stunted is just icing on the delicious cake.
You've missed the most obvious one:
* covertly projecting goatse on the walls of fancy french restaurants.
Well, maybe they'll get it sorted out eventually. My torrents are doing much better than they were, at least.
250g and you get cut off is a limitation in my book. If you don't want to use what you paid for, more power to you. I however, want to use what i purchase.
Sure, it's a limitation, but it's a pretty high limitation, and for most people--even for most power users, it may as well be unlimited. Honestly, what could a residential customer be doing to move that much data? Even if I saturated upload on my home line, for offsite backup, for instance, you're only going to be moving ~100GB/month. If it's really important that you need that kind of throughput, you can certainly afford their commercial offering, and get better data rates (three times the upload, 10Mbps + dl) and no cap. You'll be paying that in hard disk, if you need to download that much.
As to MS/Apple: I guess I missed the context which you replied to, because Canocial is indeed a commercial company, which does rely on good will from many people and institutions.
I don't want to share my now limited bandwidth for some commercial company to give out updates.
And you paid how much for your copy of Ubuntu? Yeah, I thought so.
Besides, if you're on comcast, your "now limited bandwidth", isn't all that limited. For 99.99% of comcast customers, it's practically unlimited, which isn't all that much worse. If you use so much bandwidth that you routinely approach the cap, maybe you aught to upgrade to a commercial service. Also, they actually appear to be using legitimate QoS these days, to appropriately set p2p data as low priority, instead of using the retarded policy of resetting torrent connections.
Grammatical conjunction
Well, isn't that funny, Mr. Anonymous. I've been taught by professional grammarians and linguists, that In English and most other Germanic base languages, words, phrases and clauses joined by conjunctions or prepositions admit a full pause between them, therefore they read like a comma.
You've missed it, Jimbo. That was "objects composed of metal, plastic *pause* and silicon based amorphous solids." Apparently your English parsing subroutine is also broken. At any rate, I'm still not sure about the existence, no less mass fabrication of your imaginary plastic and silicon based amorphous solid, or why such a homogenization would be desirable or useful in any way.
If you're still too dense to get what I was gently nudging at: how about the automobile? They've been around the last, oh, four generations or so. I think that counts as long; long enough anyway.
You have to get out more. The notion that "every man" is a shallow, childish consumer-bot who has sexual feelings for a chunk of metal and plastic (don't forget the glass!) is really sad.
No, sir. You must have met a very small, non random sample of set "every man", because your observations are obviously flawed. You are the one who must get out more. Men have long had passion for objects composed of metal, plastic and silicon based amorphous solids. This is just the maintenance of status quo.