I would like to announce that we will provide 100% indemnification against any company that uses Microsoft Products. If you use MS products or software built and run on top of MS products, you open yourself up to the possibility of liability for violating the GPL and related open source licenses, along with many other yet unknown IP technologies that are possibly stolen or built on invalid patents and violate third-party copyrights.
For a small monthly fee of $10,000,000 US, I will protect any company or individual that chooses to use such risky closed source products from the possibility that they will get their ass sued for violating public IP rights.
For a small additional fee of $10,000,000,0000 US a month I will also provide a full protection of damage caused by running MS related products while connected to the internet that such products may cause against third-party companies resulting from virus, instability, hacking, security breaches, and just bad design.
We provide special discounted rates on our insurance policies to any company or individual that certifies that they have completely wiped all MS products from their hard drives, including a complete 0 and 1 wipe, and have now installed Linux or similar open source products in full compliance with all GPL and similar public licenses. This special one time rate will cost you $0 us a year for life as long as you continue to run open source products and only open source products on your network.
CentOS / RH is a server distro. For the most part it is not intended for desktop surfing, or at least it is a really really low priority. It is built for long term stability, and also not breaking things with bleeding edge stuff. Server distros by nature are designed and maintained to grow long in the tooth so that hardware compatibility can be maintained. Server hardware is more expensive, thus why clients of companies like RH want to stretch the most life they can. Basically they are out of date by design.
Anyone that has run a mission critical server has come to appreciates the first rule is "don't fuck with it unless you have to". If you running anything mission critical, chances are you are compiling those core apps yourself for whatever reason, and the guys at RH selected those apps because they have been kicked around for a long time in the more bleeding edge distros. Thus, the reason RH split from Fedora way back before the ubuntu generation was born.
I bet most of the CentOS running in the World is just headless servers (likly virtuel machine servers now) with no desktop of any sort. At least my couple copies run that way. The xwindows environment is not installed on at least one, and the other one is only fired up in an emergencies or maintained through ssh shell. MC is likly the most gui like app on it. The one copy of firefox on the one server, was only there sufficently long to surf out and pick up some packages I needed. It has never been started again.
I have never encountered anyone so far discuss the possibility that MS could simply wipe out open source linux (or seriously damage it at least) as a possible contender on the desktop by creating and marketing its own MS linux distro.
Yea, I am sure everyone is chuckling at that thought, but think about it.
It would slam the door shut on any encroachment by linux and open source in general. Yea, Linux would be adopted on a wider scale, but fully under the marketing and monopoly control of MS. What is to stop them from doing it, and what is to stop them from doing the same with other open source projects? Essentially a World of MS forks of open source projects, that rebrand open source projects as MS projects and products. The end consumer will likly be just sufficiently stupid to buy a MS linux distro for instance as a low cost version that does not need to be presented in the best light. Something perhaps that makes Windows looks good, and Linux look like a poor mans free software.
There is nothing in the GPL or other license that says people that use the software have to present it in the best light, or they can not use it.
You know I bet the Greeks, Romans, Chinese had the same concerns. If it is good stuff, it will survive. For example, your porn collection would likly make it. The email from your mother, most likly not.
It is likly most similar to what people went through on ships crossing the Atlantic in the 17th century or earlier. Perhaps more like the Vikings. Perhaps we can put them all in a sub, and force them to go around the World or something several times. There is an element missing in the experiment. Essentially being on your own, with no hope of rescue or assistance in a place where even little things can be fatal. Even when everything is going well, there must always be that concern way in the back of the mind to get a real feel for the long-term impact.
I don't understand what the problem is with this. Someone please explain. ( Typing on his linux workstation, to connect to his linux server, in an all linux office).
Sorry, that would be guys with their Matrix / Hal fantasies pissing millions of dollars in research money away in labs around the World, with no real coherent plan or idea of what it is they are after.
Thus, we have the nearly weekly sensational articles that claim 'we stuck our peckers in a light socket in a new way and discovered AI and God all at the same time' type articles on slahdot over and over and over again.
On a practical note however, I do suspect it will be the porn industry that ultimately makes the real breakthrough in AI research. Just look what they did for Internet.
Actually yes and no. This dog has been beat and beat again fairly well in Philosophy of AI.
I appreciate what you are trying to get at, but your example is flawed. A true Islands examples for examining Intelligence in relation to AI are more like Helen Keller before she learned language or perhaps faro Children. Dropping a fully functional adult on an island, that has already learned language, culture, and essentially has learned to internalize or make self-reporting use of what is normally overt verbal expressions of internal states would just be a human on vacation by themselves. Essentially, your thoughts are not yours. They are on loan.
The "intelligence" is in fact a social construct. Yea, there is some sort of minor level intentionality involved in things like lizards, dogs, cats, and such, but fully robust use of language and thus culture really are the end game of AI. Intelligence, at least as far as we know it, is bench marked against human intelligence (thus the "artificial" part). Even relatively simple machines such as thermometers and coke machines are bench marked for their "intelligence" against the human social definition of "intelligence".
Whomever built whatever it is you are running that is that hardwired to IE6, should be taken out back and shot. They essentially ripped your company off. Your IT department (perhaps just the cheap manger) for not being able to replace it, should also be taken out back and shot. There is no excuse for hard wiring an application to a browser version that old (or ever), and not fixing it.
Strange, you think what Japanese conformity is doing is all that different from Western culture.
This has worked to organize armies of every country and every race for several thousand years. It has worked so well, companies started adopting it almost as soon as the idea of the company was developed. Yes, eliminating the individuals desires for increased productivity seems to work very well. The Asian cultures have been doing it for thousands of years. You know back when Europeans were still swinging wooden clubs in the caves.
Why do you think armies are built first at boot camp? It is not to teach people how to clean a gun. It is to teach them to conform.
Why do you think everyone at Wall Mart has the same colored clothing on. It is to make them conform, work as a group, comply.
The concept of the individual, with individual rights, is a fairly new invention even in the West. Like only the last few hundred years new (even the last few decades for many). The Individual is something for "citizens" in the Roman sense of citizen, kings, emperors, lords, but not for slaves, surfs, cogs, employees, and other low life's of society. There are owners and their are the owned. Most of the World, falls in to the owned catagory in spite of what mommy and daddy tried to convince you of regarding being an individuel (while also telling you not to be).
It still is something relatively unique in most of the World, and I might venture to most of you that think of yourself as "an individual with rights and freedoms" to stop for a second, check your delusion at the door, and think long and hard about just how free you really are. It might scare you to find out that you too had your individuality most likly beaten out of you one way or another. Right down to the way you put you select which words to put together has developed over thousands of years to force to you to conform to a cultural norm of what is correct and mistaken. Even your reaction to the oddity of Japanese culture, is in part the oddity of your own cultural conditioning. The Western has its own "smile machine" known as "freedom". If you use the word "freedom" sufficiently, you will get a good smiley report. Does not mean you actually ARE any more free or even any more aware of your condition than your average Japanese standing in front of the machine.
O.k. I am sure I am going to get an lot of shit for this. Please let the lashing begin. Still, there is nothing in what I said that is any less true, in spite of all our egos.
It was the including Jesus in the porn that made the conservative right-wing at the DOJ go ape shit. Had they just stuck to bin Laden, they likly would have been nominated for an Oscar by the attorney general.
I remember that Frontline documentary episode. I believe these where the people that made videos of women being kidnapped, beaten, and gang raped. They did not show anything in the documentary, but they did show the Frontline camera crew that was filming the making of video had to stop in the middle because they could not watch anymore. Now, it might have been shocking stuff at the edge of what is possible to do with actors, but it was still within the bounds of the law as far as consenting parties willing to be filmed.
At least it is the kind of thing that is not up to a judge to decide what they find repulsive, otherwise we are on the slippery slope back to the 70's where more conservative taste will make any portrayal of sex illegal.
I have been working the IT related fields in Latin America for over 10 years, both rural and urban. I have also spent some time teaching in China.
One problem I see with this article is that it makes no mention of how they get the internet connectivity. Is it sat? Is it connecting to an existing upstream provider? Both are often unrealistic is developing countries even inside urban areas because of reliability issues, corruption, cost, monopolies, and so on. In rural areas there simply are not options, and because of low population with limited economic resources it is too expensive to provide it.
The other problem that is an even greater issue is when the dam thing breaks, there are very very few people to maintain them. If someone has sufficient know how to fix something like this, chances are they are working for someone that pays a lot more (in local terms) because there is high demand for very few qualified IT people. Again, in rural areas they are often none existent. Anyone with those sorts of skills leaves. I have run in to this problem, even when money was no issue. There simply is no one to provide the support.
Better to think of it this way. The oil and gas companies are being subsidized by the cost of your health care from a polluted environment. They are not cheaper in an absolute sense. The oil and gas company is not paying for the cleanup currently. Thus, the conclusion to your same argument fully filled out would mean that the oil and gas companies should be eliminated because they are not competitive.
I say we just eliminate congress, the president, and the supreme court and just vote directly online through U-tube. Just think of the tax savings we could get by going to a full virtual government. We could all collectively push the big red button to nuke North Korea.
If a single individual did what companies routinely do, we would label them a terrorist / dictator / enemy of the state and have them taken out back for a good round of water boarding, put down with both barrels, or both. Hard to water board a stack of papers.
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Dude, you obviously still have a ways to go.
Yea, they call that formal logic. If you got that, the programing language does not really matter. You can figure it out.
I would say likly the bufflow routers, as they get bad reviews for their factory firmware but great reviews for their hardware.
By the way I run Tomato on both types.
I would like to announce that we will provide 100% indemnification against any company that uses Microsoft Products. If you use MS products or software built and run on top of MS products, you open yourself up to the possibility of liability for violating the GPL and related open source licenses, along with many other yet unknown IP technologies that are possibly stolen or built on invalid patents and violate third-party copyrights.
For a small monthly fee of $10,000,000 US, I will protect any company or individual that chooses to use such risky closed source products from the possibility that they will get their ass sued for violating public IP rights.
For a small additional fee of $10,000,000,0000 US a month I will also provide a full protection of damage caused by running MS related products while connected to the internet that such products may cause against third-party companies resulting from virus, instability, hacking, security breaches, and just bad design.
We provide special discounted rates on our insurance policies to any company or individual that certifies that they have completely wiped all MS products from their hard drives, including a complete 0 and 1 wipe, and have now installed Linux or similar open source products in full compliance with all GPL and similar public licenses. This special one time rate will cost you $0 us a year for life as long as you continue to run open source products and only open source products on your network.
CentOS / RH is a server distro. For the most part it is not intended for desktop surfing, or at least it is a really really low priority. It is built for long term stability, and also not breaking things with bleeding edge stuff. Server distros by nature are designed and maintained to grow long in the tooth so that hardware compatibility can be maintained. Server hardware is more expensive, thus why clients of companies like RH want to stretch the most life they can. Basically they are out of date by design.
Anyone that has run a mission critical server has come to appreciates the first rule is "don't fuck with it unless you have to". If you running anything mission critical, chances are you are compiling those core apps yourself for whatever reason, and the guys at RH selected those apps because they have been kicked around for a long time in the more bleeding edge distros. Thus, the reason RH split from Fedora way back before the ubuntu generation was born.
I bet most of the CentOS running in the World is just headless servers (likly virtuel machine servers now) with no desktop of any sort. At least my couple copies run that way. The xwindows environment is not installed on at least one, and the other one is only fired up in an emergencies or maintained through ssh shell. MC is likly the most gui like app on it. The one copy of firefox on the one server, was only there sufficently long to surf out and pick up some packages I needed. It has never been started again.
I have never encountered anyone so far discuss the possibility that MS could simply wipe out open source linux (or seriously damage it at least) as a possible contender on the desktop by creating and marketing its own MS linux distro.
Yea, I am sure everyone is chuckling at that thought, but think about it.
It would slam the door shut on any encroachment by linux and open source in general. Yea, Linux would be adopted on a wider scale, but fully under the marketing and monopoly control of MS. What is to stop them from doing it, and what is to stop them from doing the same with other open source projects? Essentially a World of MS forks of open source projects, that rebrand open source projects as MS projects and products. The end consumer will likly be just sufficiently stupid to buy a MS linux distro for instance as a low cost version that does not need to be presented in the best light. Something perhaps that makes Windows looks good, and Linux look like a poor mans free software.
There is nothing in the GPL or other license that says people that use the software have to present it in the best light, or they can not use it.
You know I bet the Greeks, Romans, Chinese had the same concerns. If it is good stuff, it will survive. For example, your porn collection would likly make it. The email from your mother, most likly not.
It is likly most similar to what people went through on ships crossing the Atlantic in the 17th century or earlier. Perhaps more like the Vikings. Perhaps we can put them all in a sub, and force them to go around the World or something several times. There is an element missing in the experiment. Essentially being on your own, with no hope of rescue or assistance in a place where even little things can be fatal. Even when everything is going well, there must always be that concern way in the back of the mind to get a real feel for the long-term impact.
I don't understand what the problem is with this. Someone please explain. ( Typing on his linux workstation, to connect to his linux server, in an all linux office).
Not if you sell the loan to some other sucker.
Sorry, that would be guys with their Matrix / Hal fantasies pissing millions of dollars in research money away in labs around the World, with no real coherent plan or idea of what it is they are after.
Thus, we have the nearly weekly sensational articles that claim 'we stuck our peckers in a light socket in a new way and discovered AI and God all at the same time' type articles on slahdot over and over and over again.
On a practical note however, I do suspect it will be the porn industry that ultimately makes the real breakthrough in AI research. Just look what they did for Internet.
Actually yes and no. This dog has been beat and beat again fairly well in Philosophy of AI.
I appreciate what you are trying to get at, but your example is flawed. A true Islands examples for examining Intelligence in relation to AI are more like Helen Keller before she learned language or perhaps faro Children. Dropping a fully functional adult on an island, that has already learned language, culture, and essentially has learned to internalize or make self-reporting use of what is normally overt verbal expressions of internal states would just be a human on vacation by themselves. Essentially, your thoughts are not yours. They are on loan.
The "intelligence" is in fact a social construct. Yea, there is some sort of minor level intentionality involved in things like lizards, dogs, cats, and such, but fully robust use of language and thus culture really are the end game of AI. Intelligence, at least as far as we know it, is bench marked against human intelligence (thus the "artificial" part). Even relatively simple machines such as thermometers and coke machines are bench marked for their "intelligence" against the human social definition of "intelligence".
I find a human monitoring system to be the most reliable. There is always someone to fire, if something goes wrong.
Great, it can now eat all the cores on my computer like it eats all the ram.
I dropped support for IE 6 a long time ago.
That said, I have had reports of some older web sites recently that are very broken in IE 7 and 8 all of a sudden.
Whomever built whatever it is you are running that is that hardwired to IE6, should be taken out back and shot. They essentially ripped your company off. Your IT department (perhaps just the cheap manger) for not being able to replace it, should also be taken out back and shot. There is no excuse for hard wiring an application to a browser version that old (or ever), and not fixing it.
Strange, you think what Japanese conformity is doing is all that different from Western culture.
This has worked to organize armies of every country and every race for several thousand years. It has worked so well, companies started adopting it almost as soon as the idea of the company was developed. Yes, eliminating the individuals desires for increased productivity seems to work very well. The Asian cultures have been doing it for thousands of years. You know back when Europeans were still swinging wooden clubs in the caves.
Why do you think armies are built first at boot camp? It is not to teach people how to clean a gun. It is to teach them to conform.
Why do you think everyone at Wall Mart has the same colored clothing on. It is to make them conform, work as a group, comply.
The concept of the individual, with individual rights, is a fairly new invention even in the West. Like only the last few hundred years new (even the last few decades for many). The Individual is something for "citizens" in the Roman sense of citizen, kings, emperors, lords, but not for slaves, surfs, cogs, employees, and other low life's of society. There are owners and their are the owned. Most of the World, falls in to the owned catagory in spite of what mommy and daddy tried to convince you of regarding being an individuel (while also telling you not to be).
It still is something relatively unique in most of the World, and I might venture to most of you that think of yourself as "an individual with rights and freedoms" to stop for a second, check your delusion at the door, and think long and hard about just how free you really are. It might scare you to find out that you too had your individuality most likly beaten out of you one way or another. Right down to the way you put you select which words to put together has developed over thousands of years to force to you to conform to a cultural norm of what is correct and mistaken. Even your reaction to the oddity of Japanese culture, is in part the oddity of your own cultural conditioning. The Western has its own "smile machine" known as "freedom". If you use the word "freedom" sufficiently, you will get a good smiley report. Does not mean you actually ARE any more free or even any more aware of your condition than your average Japanese standing in front of the machine.
O.k. I am sure I am going to get an lot of shit for this. Please let the lashing begin. Still, there is nothing in what I said that is any less true, in spite of all our egos.
Some sources say that over 80% of desktop computers are infected with a virus called Windows.
It was the including Jesus in the porn that made the conservative right-wing at the DOJ go ape shit. Had they just stuck to bin Laden, they likly would have been nominated for an Oscar by the attorney general.
I remember that Frontline documentary episode. I believe these where the people that made videos of women being kidnapped, beaten, and gang raped. They did not show anything in the documentary, but they did show the Frontline camera crew that was filming the making of video had to stop in the middle because they could not watch anymore. Now, it might have been shocking stuff at the edge of what is possible to do with actors, but it was still within the bounds of the law as far as consenting parties willing to be filmed.
At least it is the kind of thing that is not up to a judge to decide what they find repulsive, otherwise we are on the slippery slope back to the 70's where more conservative taste will make any portrayal of sex illegal.
They need the extra juice to power the free ice cream machine in the lobby.
I have been working the IT related fields in Latin America for over 10 years, both rural and urban. I have also spent some time teaching in China.
One problem I see with this article is that it makes no mention of how they get the internet connectivity. Is it sat? Is it connecting to an existing upstream provider? Both are often unrealistic is developing countries even inside urban areas because of reliability issues, corruption, cost, monopolies, and so on. In rural areas there simply are not options, and because of low population with limited economic resources it is too expensive to provide it.
The other problem that is an even greater issue is when the dam thing breaks, there are very very few people to maintain them. If someone has sufficient know how to fix something like this, chances are they are working for someone that pays a lot more (in local terms) because there is high demand for very few qualified IT people. Again, in rural areas they are often none existent. Anyone with those sorts of skills leaves. I have run in to this problem, even when money was no issue. There simply is no one to provide the support.
Better to think of it this way. The oil and gas companies are being subsidized by the cost of your health care from a polluted environment. They are not cheaper in an absolute sense. The oil and gas company is not paying for the cleanup currently. Thus, the conclusion to your same argument fully filled out would mean that the oil and gas companies should be eliminated because they are not competitive.
I say we just eliminate congress, the president, and the supreme court and just vote directly online through U-tube. Just think of the tax savings we could get by going to a full virtual government. We could all collectively push the big red button to nuke North Korea.
If a single individual did what companies routinely do, we would label them a terrorist / dictator / enemy of the state and have them taken out back for a good round of water boarding, put down with both barrels, or both. Hard to water board a stack of papers.