Last time I looked, they wanted you to take a run on the treadmill verey year or so.
Why, why, why would you do this. If a piece of software is being distributed with no support, there is no reason for anyone to want to replace a working piece of software that does the job that it is meant to do with another one that might or might not work. For companies who support software, it is reasonable to say "Hey, get on the latest release. We may have fixed that problem a long time ago." but for non-supported open source, you gotta be smoking the Willy Weed to think scheme up.
For that kind of dough, I can roll a dual 2100+ system and run rings around it in most real life tasks that would require this sort of speed processor (like video encoding).
For the moment, Intel may even have the highest preformance, lower priced processor (so as to exclude the Alphas, Itanics, etc.), but on a total price performance basis, the AMD chips beat them hands down.
This is the penalty phase of the thing. The courts have decided that Microsoft is guilty. I personally don't care how costly it will be for them to do what is necessary. If you are a bank robber, extortionist or other such malafactor, it is not a concern of the court that it will be inconvenient or expensive for you to spend the next several years in the slammer.
There are a number of reasons why you have a penalty phase: First it is to deter folks from doing something similar in the future. Secondly, they must make restitution to society for their crime. Both usually involve extraction of a degree of pain from the convicted.
If Judge Jackson's penalty had remained in force (as it should have), you would be amazed how fast Microsoft would have done what they contend that they can't.
Gotta lotta AMD chips around this place, including some as dual in 2u servers. No problem with any of them. Most of them are grinding 100% load at 40->45C. I am afraid that you are a victum of Intel fud.
Btw, the XP and MP line implements a thermal diode. Your mobo can throttle or shutdown the same way the P4 does if you want, but if you are at all intelligent on your case design, etc. you will never have to do that. Many of the bioses today implement a shutdown temperature driven off the termistor (ECS for one makes mobos that do this).
I have never seen a fan melt off a heatsink. Can't quite imagine how he managed that one.
I am willing to subscribe to cable and pay for a box that I never use for the precise reason that I never use it. The signal is also playable (and recordable if I so desired) on all the PCs and Macs TVs and VCRs in my house. Take that away from me, and I have a problem paying for the service since I never watch TV sitting in front of the large screen in the living room. Its always at the kitchen table or down in the exercise room or on this machine when I am doing something else. I suspect that I am hardly alone here.
Bottom line, encrypted HDTV is not something I would buy even if there was no other alternative available.
When it it was first released, it was impressive. Now its not. I enjoyed it back when, but now, its time to move on. Why anyone who has any of the earlier versions would buy this is beyond me. Why anyone who does not have an earlier version would buy this is also beyond me. Its not like its even a different rendition of "Thick as a Brick".
That these same "consumer advocates" were high amuzed that Microsoft pays no federal income tax, has a larger political slush fund than Enron, and is cross subsidizing their game box from revenues that have been determined by a court of law to have come from a monopoly. Give me a break, telecom is a much freer market than M$.
You can stuff 8 60 gb disks into an antec server case. With a pair of 1600 XP processors, the total cost is 2 promise cards = $50, 8 drives = $720,
2 xp processors = $220, mobo = $220, memory = $200,
case = $150, total is about $1500 for.5 tb and $3000 for the full tb. Further, you have a bit more
i/o bandwidth with 6 ide controllers, and 2 pci busses than with the single. Also when one of them craps out, the other is still going in all probability. Going to 80 mb drives gives you about the same cost per gb of drive space and lets you put.6 tb into a case. When you are paying for floor space and cooling, the 160 gb drives make sense, but when you are tunning these in your basement, going for two boxes makes it a cheaper and more robust solution.
Be aware that you also have to switch your cable TV to RCN also. You cannot split the cable tv and cable modem. Not a big deal, but something to be aware of. Also I would check around to make sure that you are not signing up for something even worse (if that is indeed possible) than AT&T. Some RCN customers have told me horror stories worthy of AT&T and then some.
Finally AT&T is not doing this because they want to. They are doing this because they have to given the legal issues of the domain name. Not nice, not pleasant, but as long as the lawyers are going to play in the domain name space we should all get used to it even if we "own" our own domain names.
You can get a firewirecard for your laptop for not a lot of $$. Then drive it with a Sony media converter DVMC-DV1(rougly $300). The media converter runs off of 6v so you can either power it with a wall wart or some batteries. You can capture/play DV audio/video with this beast quite reasonably at a lot les $$ than buying a full dv deck.
What is more interesting is the corollary of your point of Mac/Linux users "doing it for themselves". In the Windoze shop, you often have a number of folks who are taking the easy route and putting up the system that everyone else does, just because everyone else does it. Origional thinking this isn't and usually shows in the products. Also, just because its easy to hire folks, doesn't mean you want to hire them. People are the driving force of any and all industries these days. Having a bunch of people that will do the same thing that everyone else does the same way everyone else does it, pretty much guarantees that they will get the results that every one else does. Total medocracy at best.
I would also reccomend to anyone that they take a listen to the Moyers/Campbell series or read Campbell's book "Hero with a Thousand Faces". The Trilogy is one of the finest of the "quest" gendre that has been produced. It is interesting to disect it in the light of Campbell's exposition of the mythology of the quest. Everything is there: The quest, the companions, the wise old man, the great evil, etc. Aside from being just plain good reading, the Trilogy says many things about who we are and where we want to go in this creation.
Trouble with most folks on this forum (including myself) is that we often forget about the "good enough" effect. That is for the average user, elegance doesn't matter. All they care about is that it is "good enough" to do some simple things and that it comes pre-installed on their computer. As horrid as Windoze is, it is "good enough" for most folks. In the company that I worked for, the average mentality maxed out at less than being able to write an excel macro. Terabyte file systems, etc. that Be had to offer were wasted on these folks. It was good enough that they could click on their mail (which as virus pre-filtered for them), and run the odd pre-canned application. Any of the elegance that most of us like was totally lost on them. It was good enough that it came on the machine complements of Michael Dell.
Mark Twain went broke investing in the best linotype machine on the face of the earth. It could do anything and everything. However, people wanted the machine that was easier to get and "good enough".
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Electricity and outlets. Run at least 30 amps of service and preferably 45 amps to your room. Have outlets installed every 9 inches or so along the base and have the breakers be ground fault interrupters. You shouldn't use anywhere near 30 or 45 amps under normal circumstances, but inrush current can be quite a lot when you have a whole room trying to power up at the same time.
Waste heat removal should he either to the exterior of the house in summer or the interior in winter. If you paid for it, you might as well use it to heat your house and not pay twice. Likewise, ventalation to the outside will keep your room within reason unless you get 90+ days where you are. Most commercial server rooms are in the "service core" of a building, do not have the luxery of ready access to lots of cool exterior air and can't do this.
You will want to make sure that you run some sort of humidification in the room. You may wish to include a belt humidifier into your air ducting.
Take one of your old slow machines and dump 120 gb of disk on it. Total cost assuming you have or can scrounge a spare machine (you don't need much of a processor or memory since it isn't going to be a "real" server) is all of $200. Then do a task on it that mirrors your other system(s) on a regular interval.
One of the biggest problems with any other sort of backup scheme is that you have to do it and you will usually have something better to do. With a dedicated machine running only this sort of thing you are much more likely to get it done than find the time to burn 20 DVD-RW disks (which will set you back $700 btw) or load 3 or 4 tapes or... The only downside on this sort of thing is that in the corporate setting, this is not a satisfactory "off site" solution.
1.6V, Alas the i-openers are only socket-7, but the k6-iii+ can do 550 Mhz in those kitties anyway, so the boost isn't very much even if you could pull it off (which you can't). The upgradability of the i-opener is highly limited by the constraints of power and heat dissapation. The wall wart only makes 18V at 2A, so you only have about 40 watts max to play with for everything. One of the biggest problems with the heat is the infamous Q16 transistor that drops the vcore. The only way you get it up high overclocks is to stick a resistor in the base and dump a heat sink on it.
please embed your self someplace far away. it seems like you have little to contribute to anything. however, it is just possible that you might win a darwin award someday.
Aside from the remarks made about your math, i will state that on a performance per watt basis, the amd chips are a much better bet. The equivalent performance chip by intel has to run at a faster clock. faster clock translates to more watts. Please remember that power is dissapated in a chip by the chip doing something (switching gates). An equivalent clock Amd chip simply does more than an Intel chip.
In any case, if we have the 10 watts times 112 servers, then = $2,700/year, the difference in price between an amd 1.2 ghz t-bird and an p3 xeon w/ 256k cache 1ghz clock this morning is roughly $600-$280 = $320. 112 times $320 = $30,000+. Deperciated over the 2 years of expected lifetime of such a server this is $15,00 per year. The xeon farm you suggest (even for single processor configurations) is thus over $12,00 per year more expensive. Add in the fact that the 1.2 Ghz t-bird runs rings around the xeon and the p4 with today's code and the price/performance issue is still solidly in AMD's court. However, your point is well taken that one has to consider the entire cost of ownership for a given level of performance.
Anyway, the power dissapation issues may be a thing of the past once AMD proceeds with SI-28 technology. They have produced 1.5 paliminos that are passively cooled. Kinda will throw the power argument on its ear after isonics irons out the problems with eagle-pritcher this quarter.
Intel may close the gap again and pull ahead at some point, but for a while AMD has the advantage.
As it currently stands, Intel produces a distinctly second place product since Andy Groves retired.
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Last time I looked, they wanted you to take a run on the treadmill verey year or so.
Why, why, why would you do this. If a piece of software is being distributed with no support, there is no reason for anyone to want to replace a working piece of software that does the job that it is meant to do with another one that might or might not work. For companies who support software, it is reasonable to say "Hey, get on the latest release. We may have fixed that problem a long time ago." but for non-supported open source, you gotta be smoking the Willy Weed to think scheme up.
For that kind of dough, I can roll a dual 2100+ system and run rings around it in most real life tasks that would require this sort of speed processor (like video encoding).
For the moment, Intel may even have the highest preformance, lower priced processor (so as to exclude the Alphas, Itanics, etc.), but on a total price performance basis, the AMD chips beat them hands down.
This is the penalty phase of the thing. The courts have decided that Microsoft is guilty. I personally don't care how costly it will be for them to do what is necessary. If you are a bank robber, extortionist or other such malafactor, it is not a concern of the court that it will be inconvenient or expensive for you to spend the next several years in the slammer.
There are a number of reasons why you have a penalty phase: First it is to deter folks from doing something similar in the future. Secondly, they must make restitution to society for their crime. Both usually involve extraction of a degree of pain from the convicted.
If Judge Jackson's penalty had remained in force (as it should have), you would be amazed how fast Microsoft would have done what they contend that they can't.
Gotta lotta AMD chips around this place, including some as dual in 2u servers. No problem with any of them. Most of them are grinding 100% load at 40->45C. I am afraid that you are a victum of Intel fud.
Btw, the XP and MP line implements a thermal diode. Your mobo can throttle or shutdown the same way the P4 does if you want, but if you are at all intelligent on your case design, etc. you will never have to do that. Many of the bioses today implement a shutdown temperature driven off the termistor (ECS for one makes mobos that do this).
I have never seen a fan melt off a heatsink. Can't quite imagine how he managed that one.
I am willing to subscribe to cable and pay for a box that I never use for the precise reason that I never use it. The signal is also playable (and recordable if I so desired) on all the PCs and Macs TVs and VCRs in my house. Take that away from me, and I have a problem paying for the service since I never watch TV sitting in front of the large screen in the living room. Its always at the kitchen table or down in the exercise room or on this machine when I am doing something else. I suspect that I am hardly alone here.
Bottom line, encrypted HDTV is not something I would buy even if there was no other alternative available.
When it it was first released, it was impressive. Now its not. I enjoyed it back when, but now, its time to move on. Why anyone who has any of the earlier versions would buy this is beyond me. Why anyone who does not have an earlier version would buy this is also beyond me. Its not like its even a different rendition of "Thick as a Brick".
That these same "consumer advocates" were high amuzed that Microsoft pays no federal income tax, has a larger political slush fund than Enron, and is cross subsidizing their game box from revenues that have been determined by a court of law to have come from a monopoly. Give me a break, telecom is a much freer market than M$.
You can stuff 8 60 gb disks into an antec server case. With a pair of 1600 XP processors, the total cost is 2 promise cards = $50, 8 drives = $720, .5 tb and $3000 for the full tb. Further, you have a bit more
.6 tb into a case. When you are paying for floor space and cooling, the 160 gb drives make sense, but when you are tunning these in your basement, going for two boxes makes it a cheaper and more robust solution.
2 xp processors = $220, mobo = $220, memory = $200,
case = $150, total is about $1500 for
i/o bandwidth with 6 ide controllers, and 2 pci busses than with the single. Also when one of them craps out, the other is still going in all probability. Going to 80 mb drives gives you about the same cost per gb of drive space and lets you put
Finally AT&T is not doing this because they want to. They are doing this because they have to given the legal issues of the domain name. Not nice, not pleasant, but as long as the lawyers are going to play in the domain name space we should all get used to it even if we "own" our own domain names.
You can get a firewirecard for your laptop for not a lot of $$. Then drive it with a Sony media converter DVMC-DV1(rougly $300). The media converter runs off of 6v so you can either power it with a wall wart or some batteries. You can capture/play DV audio/video with this beast quite reasonably at a lot les $$ than buying a full dv deck.
What is more interesting is the corollary of your point of Mac/Linux users "doing it for themselves". In the Windoze shop, you often have a number of folks who are taking the easy route and putting up the system that everyone else does, just because everyone else does it. Origional thinking this isn't and usually shows in the products. Also, just because its easy to hire folks, doesn't mean you want to hire them. People are the driving force of any and all industries these days. Having a bunch of people that will do the same thing that everyone else does the same way everyone else does it, pretty much guarantees that they will get the results that every one else does. Total medocracy at best.
I would also reccomend to anyone that they take a listen to the Moyers/Campbell series or read Campbell's book "Hero with a Thousand Faces". The Trilogy is one of the finest of the "quest" gendre that has been produced. It is interesting to disect it in the light of Campbell's exposition of the mythology of the quest. Everything is there: The quest, the companions, the wise old man, the great evil, etc. Aside from being just plain good reading, the Trilogy says many things about who we are and where we want to go in this creation.
Mark Twain went broke investing in the best linotype machine on the face of the earth. It could do anything and everything. However, people wanted the machine that was easier to get and "good enough".
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Waste heat removal should he either to the exterior of the house in summer or the interior in winter. If you paid for it, you might as well use it to heat your house and not pay twice. Likewise, ventalation to the outside will keep your room within reason unless you get 90+ days where you are. Most commercial server rooms are in the "service core" of a building, do not have the luxery of ready access to lots of cool exterior air and can't do this.
You will want to make sure that you run some sort of humidification in the room. You may wish to include a belt humidifier into your air ducting.
One of the biggest problems with any other sort of backup scheme is that you have to do it and you will usually have something better to do. With a dedicated machine running only this sort of thing you are much more likely to get it done than find the time to burn 20 DVD-RW disks (which will set you back $700 btw) or load 3 or 4 tapes or... The only downside on this sort of thing is that in the corporate setting, this is not a satisfactory "off site" solution.
this individual is a prime example of why the rules enforcing contraception MUST be enforced in houses of ill-repute.
o well, your mother probably committed suicide when she saw you.
But as you note it would be sweet.
considering she had you for a child, a very wise choice all in all.
please embed your self someplace far away. it seems like you have little to contribute to anything. however, it is just possible that you might win a darwin award someday.
pardon, but your mother wants you to log off aol so someone else can use the modem.
now please be a good little microserf and stick some part of your anatomy in a baseboard socket. i refuse to get into a pissing contest with a eunuch.
my, my they let the script kiddie out again. o well. btw, its jab not jap.
In any case, if we have the 10 watts times 112 servers, then = $2,700/year, the difference in price between an amd 1.2 ghz t-bird and an p3 xeon w/ 256k cache 1ghz clock this morning is roughly $600-$280 = $320. 112 times $320 = $30,000+. Deperciated over the 2 years of expected lifetime of such a server this is $15,00 per year. The xeon farm you suggest (even for single processor configurations) is thus over $12,00 per year more expensive. Add in the fact that the 1.2 Ghz t-bird runs rings around the xeon and the p4 with today's code and the price/performance issue is still solidly in AMD's court. However, your point is well taken that one has to consider the entire cost of ownership for a given level of performance. Anyway, the power dissapation issues may be a thing of the past once AMD proceeds with SI-28 technology. They have produced 1.5 paliminos that are passively cooled. Kinda will throw the power argument on its ear after isonics irons out the problems with eagle-pritcher this quarter.
Intel may close the gap again and pull ahead at some point, but for a while AMD has the advantage. As it currently stands, Intel produces a distinctly second place product since Andy Groves retired.