It is, after a short time, soul sucking and demeaning
So you mean... it's like... HAVING A JOB?!?!?!?!?
"Artists" who think that one weekend's work and a year or two of sacrifices and chances should allow them to live luxuriously for years after get no sympathy for me. Buck up and welcome to reality. This recession's full of it.
It is not a fine. It is compensatory and punative damages in a civil suit. There is an important difference.
I don't care if you call it a "Opposite-Day Gift Basket" -- if it's a punishment, and it's handed out on American soil, it must follow the 8th amendment or it must be ruled as unconstitutional. It escapes me how you could consciensiously disagree based on such a ridiculously trivial symantic difference.
See if any of you can get this through your heads: she did not get fined one dime for 'stealing' anything. She got fined $1.9M for violating someones constitutionally guaranteed rights. What value do you put on your rights?
Ah yes, the right of "not letting anyone having your information on their computer in a folder where others can possibly see it"... Right up there with "If someone tells me to shut up or drives by in a bus so loud that no one can hear what I'm saying, I can charge them 2 million dollars for violating my first amendment right"
Distributors have twisted copyright so hideously that what they do is the gross violation of what the constitution protected.
It has been shown, scientifically, that C02 contributes to the greenhouse affect, that C02 levels have been rising due to industrialization, and that global temperature is positively correlated with that C02 level. That you consider me brainwashed for looking at the science says more about you than me.
Only because you look at the scientist more than the science. I found myself in association with some of climate change's most vigorous proponents (on a science level, not political) and no -- they have not shown that CO2 affects temperatures outside of correlation. Methane? Yes. CO2, no. When I read up on the disputations of the "you got it backward" argument that I suggest, there is a lot of fiddlefaddle that says "Ice coverage of the earth was more reflective, so when I make a new calculation, it fits!" and doublehelix models... but no scientific method. Perhaps if I wait for another 10 years, I'll see some data that fits the models before someone has to spin it into place.
No, that's an Ad Hominem. The important thing to ask is, "Is the research scientifically sound?"
Is water from a poisoned well drinkable? Whenever a study has money involved, the first thing the scientists will buy is a Jump to Conclusions Mat. They've shown that increased temperatures causes a release of CO2, but they have NOT shown that CO2 increases temperatures, rather they can map almost direct correlations between CO2 levels and temperature levels. What does this data really tell you? If you're not brainwashed, working for the "green" industry, or running for office?
If you really want to see HR swoon at your resume, you should include that you took a 4-year programming course, and have extensive at-home experience, in Legacy. They hear about expensive, hard-to-run Legacy systems all the time that they need someone to take care of once Kyle quits or dies! Finally, the guy they've been looking for without knowing it is You!
Of course a faithless man can have a conscience -- but before you say the line was anything near incorrect, remove all the laws in the US based on the 10 Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount and tell me what your lawbooks look like. In their time, both sets of moral instructions were completely revolutionary -- ridiculous by the standards of their contemporaries -- and today, you literally take them for granted. Did people before 30 AD have consciences? Yes, but they did not have the same moral structures to hang them on. Did similar moral structures appear in different areas across the world? Yes, but it was, universally, a large religion that brought them about.
People are conditioning themselves to ignoring banner ads and google adwords, of course. They still haven't completely conditioned themselves to ignoring viral marketing. So if you've got a few thousand blog followers, to a savvy advertiser, your mini-market is tempting as a sweet, refreshing Coke!
They're not sending guns and ammunition, though. They're permitting the freedom of speech. The people providing proxies are not in power, and not making decisions outside of "Let a people speak when their government attempts to keep them from speaking." Which can be dangerous, but it's the right thing to do.
Personally, I think that superstition should be kept far far away from government, religion is the opiate of the masses, etc. etc. But I'm obviously in a minority. So just get rid of the thugs and puppetmasters, and hopefully the other stuff will take care of itself
Yes, because atheists are always the most tolerant people in the world. They never talk badly or try to enforce their personal views upon others (certainly not what this post suggested!). They always view someone who is considerate and tolerant of others, while holding their own religious view, as something other than a religious nutjob who has been duped by simple manipulation. They certainly don't extinguish all religious beliefs that may disagree with their own, selfish agendas when they come to power. Besides, spirituality and religion have never been able to construct a system of laws or behavioral guidelines for the masses that our modern world would consider valuable, such as moral underpinnings of our own society and constitution. Systems of morality and governing civilization are two things that should NEVER walk hand in hand. Dubious religious machinations such as law, marriage, tolerance, modesty, self-sacrifice, temperance, and honesty are the very things that tear apart a perfectly good community!
On a serious note: It's those who/pervert/ their religions to gain power that are the dangerous ones, like Ahmadinejad, Bin Laden, and the Inquisition. They are properly condemned in the scriptures they proport to hardline. If it were not religious views they were twisting to gain power, it would simply be social views. It is not the religion that wrecks these men, rather it is these men who wreck the religion... and their charisma will grant them followers no matter what flag they're claiming to wave.
Would a $4k-$12k out of court settlement (less than statutory damages for non-innocent infringement of 24 works) have been justice? That seems to be about what the recording companies would have asked for in a case like this. Enough to cover the cost of the initial investigative and legal work while reminding the alledged infringer that sharing copyrighted works online is not a risk-free endeavor.
The constable has no reason to appeal, he's already been fingered. I'm not sure who else would have standing...
Since he's been made the example, he should remain an example and appeal in the hopes that a better judgment might fiat the corrupt judge's rulings and that such a better judgement might be a standard, rather than the corrupt judge's admitted "I'm not going to listen to that argument, because I hate you." ruling be the standard for expectation of anonymity in whistleblowing. Then again, I don't know the British court system.
There are a few cases I've heard of where I would have to have been held in contempt of court, were I in attendance, after the judge had spoken, because I would scream out "You are not a judge! This is not a court of law! You are nothing but a crooked ringmaster and this is your circus!" -- this would probably be one of them.
I'm honestly amazed at the negitive comments about this suggestion, it reminds me of the story of the first cave man to see fire, who ran far away scared the gods were going to burn him up. Where is the spirit of giving an inovative technology a go... Where is the spirit of adventure, I guess the "greatest nation on earth" tm has lost its mojo... No wonder all the top US research scientist are moving to other countries... Well oll the better for the rest of the planet...
Save this soapbox for when people complain about sending glorified suicide attempters to Mars. When attempting to change things for the environment's sake, sometimes it's important to take into account what might happen to the environment. Google up "Tire Reef" for an example of a great idea that never asked "What about..."
Now, if they were trying to fly massive kites over New York just to see if they could, THEN I would have to agree with you.
Dark matter sounds like something invented by a writer for a Japanese cartoon series, and the scientific explanation sounds about as likely to be true.
Would you prefer they call it "Here-Be-Dragons Matter"?
Orin Hatch is renowned for being one of the most corrupt men in the United States (accepting larger bribes than any other senator from the shadiest industries in the country). He is the personification of both major parties' vitriol, not just republican. He, like Ted Stevens and the Kennedys, is proof that we need to limit the number of terms that anyone may stay in Washington. He's a royal family, all in and of himself.
No kidding, men are practically born with this instinct.
The most basic is dividing the images up according to hair color or the number of girls appearing in each photo. Then you usually divide them up between hardcore and softcore, type of performance, fetish, etc. For your favorites, you can keep a folder in the home directory, of course. I know this guy works for an aerospace company, but keeping track of 500,000+ files isn't rocket science! We've all been able to do that since the advent of the 200GB harddrive.
Thanks. After posting, I realized was completely wrong about one thing. I said that mankind was born on a world without libraries, which is the opposite of the truth. The universe is full of everything we'll ever need to know. It would be more accurate to say we were born into a library, filled with books, new and old, written in a thousand languages, whose translations all link one to another, and science is our attempt to read them.
Science is done for science's sake. You would be hard pressed to find any discovery in the field of astronomy which has led to a practical discovery (I won't say there is none, because I'm sure someone can come up with an example.) Who cares about the atmosphere of Venus, or the structure of the Sun? The point is, we do science for its own sake, and when it leads to a discovery, that's nice, but hardly the goal.
You speak way too soon. Humans are Macguyvers when it comes to science. You think astronomers spot a supernova and watch it supernove just for the hell of it? They use the things to test relativity, predict temperatures, build physics theories, and attempt to determine chemical makeup and elemental behaviors in such environments and all this from something that would never seem to affect us. These studies can lead to technological and medical breakthroughs here at home. It could give us a new fusion or propulsion technology, new branches to explore in math, better lasers, who knows? I challenge you to find ANY scientific finding [read: not philosophic] that humans have had no use for within 10 years of its discovery. We use every scrap of knowledge because we, as a species, have managed to create 100 problems for every discovery that will ever be made. We were born, as a species, a sentient life on a planet without libraries. Even according to the biblical religions, we were told that "by the sweat of our brow will we eat our bread" and so we began sweating. If there's knowledge to be found in this universe from the perspective of our world, we are the ones who have to do it. So it goes.
Our thirst for knowledge, however, is overdriven by our penchance for environmental mischief, and even life-benefitting discoveries cause problems on their own. Consider healthcare. We've ballooned our ability to rehabilitate a dying human so we can practically all live 100 years, but at costs greater than we, as an entire society, can truly afford for the rising number of those who rely on this technology. Where will the solution(s) to the cost issue come from? The mathmatics of economics will help. Chemistry and Biology must also come into play, somehow, to make healthcare cheaper. Will astronomy? Its runoff understandings of chemistry, physics, and the computers we've built using the mathmatics and technology we've learned to explore the stars will all come forward. To think that the only people who make scientific discoveries are those who seek science as a hobby is naive. Discovery is almost always made in seeking the answer to a problem, a question, or a mistake. Anyone who tells you that science for science's sake is a productive is either trying to get money from you without showing results or is buying into the lottery.
That's so lame. Duels are only fun for so long in an open world. It's the guerilla ambush tactics -- hit and run... People don't sit down for a nice, romantic picnic with their pretend girlfriend in TF2 in the middle of the woods, unwary that you and a small warparty are stealthed nearby, waiting to jump out and tear their heads off. Before the expansions, when I still played, I would go into the enemy's single auction house and clear out the auctioneers. It was hilarious watching 50 people, in shock, struggling to find out why their auction windows all closed down. That's what makes griefing so fun. It's not the combat, but the surprise, delayed reaction, and eventual attempt at combat before faltering. It's not about playing fair and waiting until the other guy is "ready" -- but waiting until the other guy goes for a sandwich (or thinks YOU just went for a sandwich)
It's the psychological battle that makes griefing so fun. Anyone can kill lower-level characters. It's the obsessive compulsive that camps a body until the person gives up (or calls in their level 60's-80's from the city to clear you out and camp Your body until You give up) -- in which case you may as well be camping their entire warband's corpses, because it's not like they're going anywhere! It's the black heart it takes to tell someone in the forums you'll meet them at Blackrock spire for a fair fight, after you've killed them 3 to 1 all night, and then never showing up -- knowing they missed their raids for the night. It's about roleplaying a poorly-spoken Shakespearean-Englische Trolle who seeketh the elve that hathe killed his forsootheth father when thou art on a non-RP PVP serverre. (If anything, trolls should RP with Jamaican accents)
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It is, after a short time, soul sucking and demeaning
So you mean... it's like... HAVING A JOB?!?!?!?!?
"Artists" who think that one weekend's work and a year or two of sacrifices and chances should allow them to live luxuriously for years after get no sympathy for me. Buck up and welcome to reality. This recession's full of it.
It is not a fine. It is compensatory and punative damages in a civil suit. There is an important difference.
I don't care if you call it a "Opposite-Day Gift Basket" -- if it's a punishment, and it's handed out on American soil, it must follow the 8th amendment or it must be ruled as unconstitutional. It escapes me how you could consciensiously disagree based on such a ridiculously trivial symantic difference.
See if any of you can get this through your heads: she did not get fined one dime for 'stealing' anything. She got fined $1.9M for violating someones constitutionally guaranteed rights. What value do you put on your rights?
Ah yes, the right of "not letting anyone having your information on their computer in a folder where others can possibly see it"... Right up there with "If someone tells me to shut up or drives by in a bus so loud that no one can hear what I'm saying, I can charge them 2 million dollars for violating my first amendment right"
Distributors have twisted copyright so hideously that what they do is the gross violation of what the constitution protected.
Re-engineering a 30 year old system that's been accreting features for 30 years, though, isn't an easy task.
for $10M per dude, it doesn't have to be. I'll bugfix this thing with badgers gnawing on both my arms for that kind of pay.
My camera took some pictures of memories being made on it's way out about two weeks ago, then.
Isn't that the point of cameras?
It has been shown, scientifically, that C02 contributes to the greenhouse affect, that C02 levels have been rising due to industrialization, and that global temperature is positively correlated with that C02 level. That you consider me brainwashed for looking at the science says more about you than me.
Only because you look at the scientist more than the science. I found myself in association with some of climate change's most vigorous proponents (on a science level, not political) and no -- they have not shown that CO2 affects temperatures outside of correlation. Methane? Yes. CO2, no. When I read up on the disputations of the "you got it backward" argument that I suggest, there is a lot of fiddlefaddle that says "Ice coverage of the earth was more reflective, so when I make a new calculation, it fits!" and doublehelix models... but no scientific method. Perhaps if I wait for another 10 years, I'll see some data that fits the models before someone has to spin it into place.
No, that's an Ad Hominem. The important thing to ask is, "Is the research scientifically sound?"
Is water from a poisoned well drinkable? Whenever a study has money involved, the first thing the scientists will buy is a Jump to Conclusions Mat. They've shown that increased temperatures causes a release of CO2, but they have NOT shown that CO2 increases temperatures, rather they can map almost direct correlations between CO2 levels and temperature levels. What does this data really tell you? If you're not brainwashed, working for the "green" industry, or running for office?
If you really want to see HR swoon at your resume, you should include that you took a 4-year programming course, and have extensive at-home experience, in Legacy. They hear about expensive, hard-to-run Legacy systems all the time that they need someone to take care of once Kyle quits or dies! Finally, the guy they've been looking for without knowing it is You!
Of course a faithless man can have a conscience -- but before you say the line was anything near incorrect, remove all the laws in the US based on the 10 Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount and tell me what your lawbooks look like. In their time, both sets of moral instructions were completely revolutionary -- ridiculous by the standards of their contemporaries -- and today, you literally take them for granted. Did people before 30 AD have consciences? Yes, but they did not have the same moral structures to hang them on. Did similar moral structures appear in different areas across the world? Yes, but it was, universally, a large religion that brought them about.
People are conditioning themselves to ignoring banner ads and google adwords, of course. They still haven't completely conditioned themselves to ignoring viral marketing. So if you've got a few thousand blog followers, to a savvy advertiser, your mini-market is tempting as a sweet, refreshing Coke!
They're not sending guns and ammunition, though. They're permitting the freedom of speech. The people providing proxies are not in power, and not making decisions outside of "Let a people speak when their government attempts to keep them from speaking." Which can be dangerous, but it's the right thing to do.
Personally, I think that superstition should be kept far far away from government, religion is the opiate of the masses, etc. etc. But I'm obviously in a minority. So just get rid of the thugs and puppetmasters, and hopefully the other stuff will take care of itself
Yes, because atheists are always the most tolerant people in the world. They never talk badly or try to enforce their personal views upon others (certainly not what this post suggested!). They always view someone who is considerate and tolerant of others, while holding their own religious view, as something other than a religious nutjob who has been duped by simple manipulation. They certainly don't extinguish all religious beliefs that may disagree with their own, selfish agendas when they come to power. Besides, spirituality and religion have never been able to construct a system of laws or behavioral guidelines for the masses that our modern world would consider valuable, such as moral underpinnings of our own society and constitution. Systems of morality and governing civilization are two things that should NEVER walk hand in hand. Dubious religious machinations such as law, marriage, tolerance, modesty, self-sacrifice, temperance, and honesty are the very things that tear apart a perfectly good community!
/pervert/ their religions to gain power that are the dangerous ones, like Ahmadinejad, Bin Laden, and the Inquisition. They are properly condemned in the scriptures they proport to hardline. If it were not religious views they were twisting to gain power, it would simply be social views. It is not the religion that wrecks these men, rather it is these men who wreck the religion... and their charisma will grant them followers no matter what flag they're claiming to wave.
On a serious note: It's those who
Would a $4k-$12k out of court settlement (less than statutory damages for non-innocent infringement of 24 works) have been justice? That seems to be about what the recording companies would have asked for in a case like this. Enough to cover the cost of the initial investigative and legal work while reminding the alledged infringer that sharing copyrighted works online is not a risk-free endeavor.
$4 per uploaded song seems fair.
The constable has no reason to appeal, he's already been fingered. I'm not sure who else would have standing ...
Since he's been made the example, he should remain an example and appeal in the hopes that a better judgment might fiat the corrupt judge's rulings and that such a better judgement might be a standard, rather than the corrupt judge's admitted "I'm not going to listen to that argument, because I hate you." ruling be the standard for expectation of anonymity in whistleblowing. Then again, I don't know the British court system.
There are a few cases I've heard of where I would have to have been held in contempt of court, were I in attendance, after the judge had spoken, because I would scream out "You are not a judge! This is not a court of law! You are nothing but a crooked ringmaster and this is your circus!" -- this would probably be one of them.
I'm honestly amazed at the negitive comments about this suggestion, it reminds me of the story of the first cave man to see fire, who ran far away scared the gods were going to burn him up. Where is the spirit of giving an inovative technology a go... Where is the spirit of adventure, I guess the "greatest nation on earth" tm has lost its mojo... No wonder all the top US research scientist are moving to other countries... Well oll the better for the rest of the planet...
Save this soapbox for when people complain about sending glorified suicide attempters to Mars. When attempting to change things for the environment's sake, sometimes it's important to take into account what might happen to the environment. Google up "Tire Reef" for an example of a great idea that never asked "What about..."
Now, if they were trying to fly massive kites over New York just to see if they could, THEN I would have to agree with you.
Actually, what we are most likely going to see is incremental
What I think we are more likely to see is excremental.
Dark matter sounds like something invented by a writer for a Japanese cartoon series, and the scientific explanation sounds about as likely to be true.
Would you prefer they call it "Here-Be-Dragons Matter"?
I looked at the title and read it "The 'Hidden' Cost of Piracy." Indicative of the type of articles I expect to see on /. these days?
It would have to have been "The 'Hidden' Benefits of Piracy" if it was going to ever make it through the editors.
whereas EVERY single gamebreaker shit i see belongs to republicans ?
That certainly sounds like a personal issue. Maybe pay more attention to the democrats for a while?
Orin Hatch is renowned for being one of the most corrupt men in the United States (accepting larger bribes than any other senator from the shadiest industries in the country). He is the personification of both major parties' vitriol, not just republican. He, like Ted Stevens and the Kennedys, is proof that we need to limit the number of terms that anyone may stay in Washington. He's a royal family, all in and of himself.
In college a student is paying to learn.
That's how it used to be. Now, they're just paying for a degree. Learning is done on your own time.
No kidding, men are practically born with this instinct.
The most basic is dividing the images up according to hair color or the number of girls appearing in each photo. Then you usually divide them up between hardcore and softcore, type of performance, fetish, etc. For your favorites, you can keep a folder in the home directory, of course. I know this guy works for an aerospace company, but keeping track of 500,000+ files isn't rocket science! We've all been able to do that since the advent of the 200GB harddrive.
...I would mod you up Insightful.
Thanks. After posting, I realized was completely wrong about one thing. I said that mankind was born on a world without libraries, which is the opposite of the truth. The universe is full of everything we'll ever need to know. It would be more accurate to say we were born into a library, filled with books, new and old, written in a thousand languages, whose translations all link one to another, and science is our attempt to read them.
Science is done for science's sake. You would be hard pressed to find any discovery in the field of astronomy which has led to a practical discovery (I won't say there is none, because I'm sure someone can come up with an example.) Who cares about the atmosphere of Venus, or the structure of the Sun? The point is, we do science for its own sake, and when it leads to a discovery, that's nice, but hardly the goal.
You speak way too soon. Humans are Macguyvers when it comes to science. You think astronomers spot a supernova and watch it supernove just for the hell of it? They use the things to test relativity, predict temperatures, build physics theories, and attempt to determine chemical makeup and elemental behaviors in such environments and all this from something that would never seem to affect us. These studies can lead to technological and medical breakthroughs here at home. It could give us a new fusion or propulsion technology, new branches to explore in math, better lasers, who knows? I challenge you to find ANY scientific finding [read: not philosophic] that humans have had no use for within 10 years of its discovery. We use every scrap of knowledge because we, as a species, have managed to create 100 problems for every discovery that will ever be made. We were born, as a species, a sentient life on a planet without libraries. Even according to the biblical religions, we were told that "by the sweat of our brow will we eat our bread" and so we began sweating. If there's knowledge to be found in this universe from the perspective of our world, we are the ones who have to do it. So it goes.
Our thirst for knowledge, however, is overdriven by our penchance for environmental mischief, and even life-benefitting discoveries cause problems on their own. Consider healthcare. We've ballooned our ability to rehabilitate a dying human so we can practically all live 100 years, but at costs greater than we, as an entire society, can truly afford for the rising number of those who rely on this technology. Where will the solution(s) to the cost issue come from? The mathmatics of economics will help. Chemistry and Biology must also come into play, somehow, to make healthcare cheaper. Will astronomy? Its runoff understandings of chemistry, physics, and the computers we've built using the mathmatics and technology we've learned to explore the stars will all come forward. To think that the only people who make scientific discoveries are those who seek science as a hobby is naive. Discovery is almost always made in seeking the answer to a problem, a question, or a mistake. Anyone who tells you that science for science's sake is a productive is either trying to get money from you without showing results or is buying into the lottery.
That's consensual PvP.
That's so lame. Duels are only fun for so long in an open world. It's the guerilla ambush tactics -- hit and run... People don't sit down for a nice, romantic picnic with their pretend girlfriend in TF2 in the middle of the woods, unwary that you and a small warparty are stealthed nearby, waiting to jump out and tear their heads off. Before the expansions, when I still played, I would go into the enemy's single auction house and clear out the auctioneers. It was hilarious watching 50 people, in shock, struggling to find out why their auction windows all closed down. That's what makes griefing so fun. It's not the combat, but the surprise, delayed reaction, and eventual attempt at combat before faltering. It's not about playing fair and waiting until the other guy is "ready" -- but waiting until the other guy goes for a sandwich (or thinks YOU just went for a sandwich)
It's the psychological battle that makes griefing so fun. Anyone can kill lower-level characters. It's the obsessive compulsive that camps a body until the person gives up (or calls in their level 60's-80's from the city to clear you out and camp Your body until You give up) -- in which case you may as well be camping their entire warband's corpses, because it's not like they're going anywhere! It's the black heart it takes to tell someone in the forums you'll meet them at Blackrock spire for a fair fight, after you've killed them 3 to 1 all night, and then never showing up -- knowing they missed their raids for the night. It's about roleplaying a poorly-spoken Shakespearean-Englische Trolle who seeketh the elve that hathe killed his forsootheth father when thou art on a non-RP PVP serverre. (If anything, trolls should RP with Jamaican accents)
I suppose you could do that last one on TF2...