I'd wager that you've got a problem with your computer, or your current windows setup. A good installation of Windows 2000 should get a few days of uptime as the absolute minimum.
Between the awful writing in the article, the broken examples, the Java/Javascript confusion, and the contrarian IE-is-safe-but-mozilla-isn't thing; this may very well be the worst slashdot story ever.
What the fuck are you talking about? You can get the virus one of the following ways:
Opening an email with an unpatched version of Outlook
Opening an unsolicited attachment from a stranger
Having open network shares
It wnn't just magically infect you because you're running windows. If you're up to date with windows update, you don't open unsolicited attachments from strangers, and you secure your network shares, you will be safe! Are you sure that you read the article?
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I'm one of a few people in charge of my uni's computer labs. I don't maintain 2000 computers, but I have no trouble with the 400 or so that I do maintain. I realise that this is small potatos, don't bother pointing this out.
You don't even need to reply at all- you obviously have nothing to say, and you know it. First you have your whole "STRAWMAN STRAWMAN STRAWMAN" defense, and now you've brought out your "YOU WHIPPERSNAPPER, RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!" arguement. Seriously, did you even read what you wrote?
As for accusing sysadmins of being lazy, incompetent, or outright negligent is not only disrespectful, it's downright arrogant of you. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's probably best to keep your mouth shut.
You sound like an old woman. If you can't do your job, I suggest you get a new one that you can handle.
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If Microsoft releases a patch, and you don't apply the patch, and you get a virus that would have been prevented by applying the patch, it's your own damn fault. This is not open for discussion.
Patch the workstations, so they don't catch viruses through outlook/IE exploits. Then you won't need to install all of the patches on your server, because you don't run Outlook on it anyway. If you don't install Windows service packs and updates on the server, you're just asking for trouble. You'll have to accept the possibility of some downtime, just as you do with any OS.
Now, you don't have to worry about the virus spreading through the network because the workstations don't have the virus and the server doesn't either. Nobody has the virus.
I'm just about sick of people defending themselves by calling the opposing viewpoint a 'strawman'. It's not my fault that your argument is weak.
A patch that fixes the problem that this worm exploits has been availible for 2 years. I should probably also add (d) Have virus protection, but that would have just stirred up a bunch of "LINUX DOESN'T NEED VIRUS PROTECTION BECAUSE NOBODY WRITE LINUX VIRI BECAUSE LINUX IS THE VERY INCARNATION OF SECURITY BLA BLA BLA" bullshit.
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So you absolutely can't afford a few hours of downtime, yet you run OUTLOOK on it? moron.
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Well then, any admin who runs outlook (or any email client, or browser, or ANYTHING that could potentially be comprimised) on a production server that absolutely can't stand to have any downtime needs to be terminated as well.
They patched the outlook bug that this virus uses 2 years ago. Anyone who isn't retarded has already patched their system, and anyone who runs outlook (or ANY email client) on a production server is off their rocker anyway.
Because it's Microsoft's fault that people write viruses? I guess I don't understand where you're coming from, because that sounds like suing Ford because someone broke a window in your car and stole your CD player.
And once again, those of us who know how to configure our windows systems and aren't stupid enough to (a) have open network shares with no passwords and (b) open random email attachments are safe.
So it makes sense to use the same symbol to mean two completely different things? I use metric measurements for most things, but this has nothing to do with the metric system.
The post was a reference to the movie "Austin Powers." The poster was not misspelling the word, he was imitating the villain's accent in the movie when he said the same line.
They're suing MS, because their (South Korea's) tech people suck? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that MS had a patch out for the slammer months before the outbreak... it's their own fault if they can't keep their servers updated.
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I'd wager that you've got a problem with your computer, or your current windows setup. A good installation of Windows 2000 should get a few days of uptime as the absolute minimum.
ever go to a lan party? all the lans I've been at, there's more talking in-game than otherwise.
hahahahahahahahahaha, he said "Social" and "Gaming" in the same sentence. hahahahahahaha
Yes you will... it will be a billion times slower.
uh... what? (the answer: nothing)
ETHANOL IS PEOPLE! PEEEEEE-PULLLLL!
Between the awful writing in the article, the broken examples, the Java/Javascript confusion, and the contrarian IE-is-safe-but-mozilla-isn't thing; this may very well be the worst slashdot story ever.
...unless you've patched outlook, like I said...
- Opening an email with an unpatched version of Outlook
- Opening an unsolicited attachment from a stranger
- Having open network shares
It wnn't just magically infect you because you're running windows. If you're up to date with windows update, you don't open unsolicited attachments from strangers, and you secure your network shares, you will be safe! Are you sure that you read the article?You don't even need to reply at all- you obviously have nothing to say, and you know it. First you have your whole "STRAWMAN STRAWMAN STRAWMAN" defense, and now you've brought out your "YOU WHIPPERSNAPPER, RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!" arguement. Seriously, did you even read what you wrote?
As for accusing sysadmins of being lazy, incompetent, or outright negligent is not only disrespectful, it's downright arrogant of you. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's probably best to keep your mouth shut.
You sound like an old woman. If you can't do your job, I suggest you get a new one that you can handle.
RECAP:
If Microsoft releases a patch, and you don't apply the patch, and you get a virus that would have been prevented by applying the patch, it's your own damn fault. This is not open for discussion.
Patch the workstations, so they don't catch viruses through outlook/IE exploits. Then you won't need to install all of the patches on your server, because you don't run Outlook on it anyway. If you don't install Windows service packs and updates on the server, you're just asking for trouble. You'll have to accept the possibility of some downtime, just as you do with any OS.
Now, you don't have to worry about the virus spreading through the network because the workstations don't have the virus and the server doesn't either. Nobody has the virus.
I'm just about sick of people defending themselves by calling the opposing viewpoint a 'strawman'. It's not my fault that your argument is weak.
(c) Keep windows up-to-date.
A patch that fixes the problem that this worm exploits has been availible for 2 years. I should probably also add (d) Have virus protection, but that would have just stirred up a bunch of "LINUX DOESN'T NEED VIRUS PROTECTION BECAUSE NOBODY WRITE LINUX VIRI BECAUSE LINUX IS THE VERY INCARNATION OF SECURITY BLA BLA BLA" bullshit.
So you absolutely can't afford a few hours of downtime, yet you run OUTLOOK on it? moron.
Well then, any admin who runs outlook (or any email client, or browser, or ANYTHING that could potentially be comprimised) on a production server that absolutely can't stand to have any downtime needs to be terminated as well.
They patched the outlook bug that this virus uses 2 years ago. Anyone who isn't retarded has already patched their system, and anyone who runs outlook (or ANY email client) on a production server is off their rocker anyway.
Because it's Microsoft's fault that people write viruses? I guess I don't understand where you're coming from, because that sounds like suing Ford because someone broke a window in your car and stole your CD player.
Yeah, because it's a lot of work to set windows to do updates automatically. Just a troll, nothing to see here.
And once again, those of us who know how to configure our windows systems and aren't stupid enough to (a) have open network shares with no passwords and (b) open random email attachments are safe.
The dreamcast server was up when I went... of course it probably only take a few seconds to powercycle it.
So it makes sense to use the same symbol to mean two completely different things? I use metric measurements for most things, but this has nothing to do with the metric system.
Then I remembered that European countries have the odd habit of using decimal points to seperate thousands rather than commas... blah.
The post was a reference to the movie "Austin Powers." The poster was not misspelling the word, he was imitating the villain's accent in the movie when he said the same line.
no pictures, so it's basically useless
Why not convert the whole mess to XviD and burn the XviDs to DVDs?
They're suing MS, because their (South Korea's) tech people suck? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that MS had a patch out for the slammer months before the outbreak... it's their own fault if they can't keep their servers updated.