Ditto. Some people just don't know how to configure a browser, or addons, and probably have little idea what a HOSTS file is for. I won't even go into the possibilities of blocking sites and content on the router.
Different lines of products. Mmmmm. How about, same products, aimed at different markets? Or, we could decide that Windows Home Edition is a different product than Windows Pro.
Automotive analogy would be the old Chevy Nova, Buick Skylark, and Oldsmobile Omega. The vehicles came down the same assembly line, bolted and welded together by the same people and same robots, had the same paint applied, used the same motors and transmissions, rearends, everything. The only differences were really cosmetic. A Nova got some thin carpeting, cheaper vinyl seats, and a bad bowtie. Buick got thicker carpeting, choices of better seats and stereo, and a Buick decal. Olds got even thicker carpeting, I think tinted windows were standard, a nicer speaker system for the stereo, and of course the Olds markings inside and out.
Now, for MARKETING PURPOSES, we can agree that all three vehicles were different products. But, when the car started making weird noises, and the mechanic told you that your discombobulator was percolating nanobots through the wazoo, you were equally fucked, and you bought your repair parts from the same manufacturer, at the same retail store.
The biggest difference between server editions and consumer editions are the rules put into place, in observance of security needs.
Bradley Manning is a spiteful little shit, who betrayed his country for petty reasons. Had Manning been promoted, praised, and given money, cars, and women, he would never have done what he did. But, because he wasn't promoted as fast as he thought he should be, he lacked money, and couldn't get laid, he decided to "get even" with everyone.
Logistically more difficult? Not really. We have these things called "virtual machines" today. Teach secures his/her machines, then makes her students members of the VM user's group. Teach now teaches the kids to manipulate those virtual machines, where they can have elevated permissions, and do anything they want to do. Susie messes up her machine, Teacher restores a snapshot, and tells Susie not to be such a dunce the next time. Kids can do ANYTHING with their VM's, but they can't touch the OS installed on the hardware.
Personally, I don't care much about the user. I care about the system. I have no control over the user. He can delete every single file in his workspace, for all I care. He can download and run viruses intentionally, for all I care. My concern is, he doesn't compromise the system, the network, or his fellow workers. The user is responsible for his own stuff. Kinda like, the guys I work with are all responsible for their own tools, their own desks, their own housekeeping. I'm not vacuuming cookie crumbs out of their desks, but I'll make sure that the workspaces are locked after hours.
You should have said, "Linux is more secure than Windows, and we generally don't worry to much about viruses and other trash." Left at that, your statement would have been good.
Now, don't take this the wrong way. I very strongly dislike Microsoft. You might even say I hate Microsoft. And, I think that Microsoft should have concentrated on security from MSDOS 3.1, instead of waiting til they had cornered the market. But, the minute we forget that we have our own vulnerabilities, then we have effectively given control of Linux to the hackers.
In fact, the average vacuum headed Windows user who migrates to Linux brings his bad habits to LInux. And, his box is only slightly more secure than it was when it was running Windows.
If you walk down the street, dropping hundred dollar bills from your pocket, are you going to demand that the kids running after you, and rescuing the bills be locked up?
People have been doing this for a long time. You'll notice that they are conducted at speed, in some awfully rough sea conditions, on small targets. We don't just land those things on aircraft carriers and troop ships. That last scene, of a helicopter landing aboard a destroyer is the scene that I'm most familiar with. Sometimes, you can feel the landing throughout the ship. The pilot gets his timing just the tiniest bit off - not enough to be catastrophic, just the tiniest bit off - and those few tons of aircraft just SLAM into the deck.
Doc Ruby must be a worker drone who hates to see people enjoy life. Come on, Doc, I've worked for 40 years now. I've served my country in the military. I've paid my taxes faithfully, if grudgingly. I've voted, I've led boy scouts and girl scouts, I've raised a family.
If I were to buy a bike, and hit the dusty trail tomorrow, if I were to head down to Daytona to hang with the motorcycle crowds for a few months or years, you would accuse me of being a bum?
Sounds to me like you need to try living for yourself for awhile, instead of being the boss's good worker drone.
The illegal alien invader sends most of his money to another country, removing thousands of dollars annually from the local economy. A citizen and resident of the United States spends his money in the United States, contributing to economic growth of the United States. (Except when he's shopping at Wal Mart, and contributing to the economic growth of China.)
LOL - Someone made a similar observation just last week. I made a comment that got modded down.
Friends, I speak my mind. I say what I think. Sometimes, it generates a lot of comments, sometimes I get modded up past the moon, sometimes I get modded way down out of sight.
Funny thing is, I routinely have tons of mod points of my own to use.
A lot of controversial subjects come up here on slashdot, and controversy is a good thing. It makes us all think. Sometimes, an opinionated old bastard like myself finds himself rethinking his positions. I hope that I help to cause some of you opinionated young bastards to do the same!
How many illegal alien invaders do you have in your country? In MY country, the US of A, we have in excess of twenty million illegal alien invaders, raping our economy for everything they can get. If we ran the invaders out, all our unemployed could have those jobs.
And, NO - it is NOT only the menial jobs working in the fields that have been taken. An entire industry has been taken over by the illegals, namely construction. The illegals helped to fuel the "housing bubble" that should have bankrupted dozens of our banks.
So, tell me, who are the chumps in all of this? We are. Citizens, taxpayers, government officials, all of us.
It's good to know that the money stolen from smokers has been successfully used to brainwash the masses. Yeah, cigarettes can cause cancer. It's been proven that soaking rats in a nicotine bath for weeks and months causes them to get cancer. But, I don't bathe in it, or wear nicotine soaked gauze patches all day, every day. Yeah, I probably have a much higher chance of getting cancer than you do. But, then, my dad died of cancer - and he never smoked in his life. Go figure, huh? But, you'll never believe that you've been brainwashed by the politically correct club.
There is no one who is "not able to find a job". There are many people who can't find a job that they are willing to do at prevailing wages, but there is no one "not able to find a job".
Not only do individual people need some reeducation, along with an attitude adjustment, but our society needs an attitude adjustment as well. Our nation is facing a crisis, with millions (literally millions) of illegal aliens sneaking in for the opportunities available here. Meanwhile, millions of worthless American citizens lie around their government supplied apartments, doing nothing constructive. I say, put those lazy no-goods to work picking lettuce, tomatoes, and cotton. Just stop feeding them, and they will be happy to go work in the sun all day.
I guess I assumed the "bullshit" to mean any insane laws meant to suck money out of the masses. In France's case, the government wants to suck the money, in SOPA's case, the government would allow the corporations to suck the money. All bullshit, really. SOPA, ACTA, DMCA, all of them are designed with the same goal in mind: to enrich the corporations, by milking the common man of pocket change, and/or punishing the common man with exorbitant penalties.
We don't? Than, what is that SOPA thing all about? Don't tell me that you think THAT battle is finished! They'll be back in mere months with a newer, sexier version, complete with a "Think of the children" soundbyte!
Wait - that went over my head. I drink coffee, and smoke cigarettes. I hate the government because the government taxes my cigarettes beyond any reasonable or rational expectation. Do I need any more reason to hate the government? I mean - anything else isn't even icing on the cake of hate, is it?
I think your field of view is to narrow. The United States and Europe both pay millions of people to do nothing. Cut welfare, and make those people get off their asses, and DO SOMETHING!!! Some of the welfare recipients are quite talented, and capable. Pushed out of their comfort zone, some (yeah, few, but some) will likely go into medical fields, energy, and all your etc.
Welfare hamstrings us as badly as some of our other problems.
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How can you get your paid shill's income, if you post anonymously?
Ditto. Some people just don't know how to configure a browser, or addons, and probably have little idea what a HOSTS file is for. I won't even go into the possibilities of blocking sites and content on the router.
Different lines of products. Mmmmm. How about, same products, aimed at different markets? Or, we could decide that Windows Home Edition is a different product than Windows Pro.
Automotive analogy would be the old Chevy Nova, Buick Skylark, and Oldsmobile Omega. The vehicles came down the same assembly line, bolted and welded together by the same people and same robots, had the same paint applied, used the same motors and transmissions, rearends, everything. The only differences were really cosmetic. A Nova got some thin carpeting, cheaper vinyl seats, and a bad bowtie. Buick got thicker carpeting, choices of better seats and stereo, and a Buick decal. Olds got even thicker carpeting, I think tinted windows were standard, a nicer speaker system for the stereo, and of course the Olds markings inside and out.
Now, for MARKETING PURPOSES, we can agree that all three vehicles were different products. But, when the car started making weird noises, and the mechanic told you that your discombobulator was percolating nanobots through the wazoo, you were equally fucked, and you bought your repair parts from the same manufacturer, at the same retail store.
The biggest difference between server editions and consumer editions are the rules put into place, in observance of security needs.
Bradley Manning is a spiteful little shit, who betrayed his country for petty reasons. Had Manning been promoted, praised, and given money, cars, and women, he would never have done what he did. But, because he wasn't promoted as fast as he thought he should be, he lacked money, and couldn't get laid, he decided to "get even" with everyone.
I suppose Ted Bundy is another of your heros?
Logistically more difficult? Not really. We have these things called "virtual machines" today. Teach secures his/her machines, then makes her students members of the VM user's group. Teach now teaches the kids to manipulate those virtual machines, where they can have elevated permissions, and do anything they want to do. Susie messes up her machine, Teacher restores a snapshot, and tells Susie not to be such a dunce the next time. Kids can do ANYTHING with their VM's, but they can't touch the OS installed on the hardware.
" typically run by competent users"
Ahhhh - the refreshing sound of "personal responsibility".
Personally, I don't care much about the user. I care about the system. I have no control over the user. He can delete every single file in his workspace, for all I care. He can download and run viruses intentionally, for all I care. My concern is, he doesn't compromise the system, the network, or his fellow workers. The user is responsible for his own stuff. Kinda like, the guys I work with are all responsible for their own tools, their own desks, their own housekeeping. I'm not vacuuming cookie crumbs out of their desks, but I'll make sure that the workspaces are locked after hours.
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/12/various-ways-of-detecting-rootkits-in.html
I want to agree with you, but can't do it.
Major outbreaks? I read of one not to long ago - - - here it is: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14723/no_more_linux_security_bragging_botnet_discovery_worry
You should have said, "Linux is more secure than Windows, and we generally don't worry to much about viruses and other trash." Left at that, your statement would have been good.
Now, don't take this the wrong way. I very strongly dislike Microsoft. You might even say I hate Microsoft. And, I think that Microsoft should have concentrated on security from MSDOS 3.1, instead of waiting til they had cornered the market. But, the minute we forget that we have our own vulnerabilities, then we have effectively given control of Linux to the hackers.
In fact, the average vacuum headed Windows user who migrates to Linux brings his bad habits to LInux. And, his box is only slightly more secure than it was when it was running Windows.
If you walk down the street, dropping hundred dollar bills from your pocket, are you going to demand that the kids running after you, and rescuing the bills be locked up?
The comic probably does look retarded, to someone who doesn't grasp the concept. You better go now, I can hear the short bus honking for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmJi6fZikDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG5c-zGWLCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk3HRrMhrjw&feature=related
People have been doing this for a long time. You'll notice that they are conducted at speed, in some awfully rough sea conditions, on small targets. We don't just land those things on aircraft carriers and troop ships. That last scene, of a helicopter landing aboard a destroyer is the scene that I'm most familiar with. Sometimes, you can feel the landing throughout the ship. The pilot gets his timing just the tiniest bit off - not enough to be catastrophic, just the tiniest bit off - and those few tons of aircraft just SLAM into the deck.
Doc Ruby must be a worker drone who hates to see people enjoy life. Come on, Doc, I've worked for 40 years now. I've served my country in the military. I've paid my taxes faithfully, if grudgingly. I've voted, I've led boy scouts and girl scouts, I've raised a family.
If I were to buy a bike, and hit the dusty trail tomorrow, if I were to head down to Daytona to hang with the motorcycle crowds for a few months or years, you would accuse me of being a bum?
Sounds to me like you need to try living for yourself for awhile, instead of being the boss's good worker drone.
A real man's RV
http://digiads.com.au/motorbikes/used-motorbikes/bike_ad_photos/digiads_motorbike_ads_86171_1.jpg
Pakis only have 1800 words in their dictionary, don't they? How the hell are they going to communicate with the remaining 200 words?
The illegal alien invader sends most of his money to another country, removing thousands of dollars annually from the local economy. A citizen and resident of the United States spends his money in the United States, contributing to economic growth of the United States. (Except when he's shopping at Wal Mart, and contributing to the economic growth of China.)
LOL - Someone made a similar observation just last week. I made a comment that got modded down.
Friends, I speak my mind. I say what I think. Sometimes, it generates a lot of comments, sometimes I get modded up past the moon, sometimes I get modded way down out of sight.
Funny thing is, I routinely have tons of mod points of my own to use.
A lot of controversial subjects come up here on slashdot, and controversy is a good thing. It makes us all think. Sometimes, an opinionated old bastard like myself finds himself rethinking his positions. I hope that I help to cause some of you opinionated young bastards to do the same!
I say, "Make the welfare bums work for their food."
And, you say, "Alright, let's do away with all human rights!"
Obviously, we're not in the same conversation. You couldn't get much more preposterous.
How many illegal alien invaders do you have in your country? In MY country, the US of A, we have in excess of twenty million illegal alien invaders, raping our economy for everything they can get. If we ran the invaders out, all our unemployed could have those jobs.
And, NO - it is NOT only the menial jobs working in the fields that have been taken. An entire industry has been taken over by the illegals, namely construction. The illegals helped to fuel the "housing bubble" that should have bankrupted dozens of our banks.
So, tell me, who are the chumps in all of this? We are. Citizens, taxpayers, government officials, all of us.
It's good to know that the money stolen from smokers has been successfully used to brainwash the masses. Yeah, cigarettes can cause cancer. It's been proven that soaking rats in a nicotine bath for weeks and months causes them to get cancer. But, I don't bathe in it, or wear nicotine soaked gauze patches all day, every day. Yeah, I probably have a much higher chance of getting cancer than you do. But, then, my dad died of cancer - and he never smoked in his life. Go figure, huh? But, you'll never believe that you've been brainwashed by the politically correct club.
There is no one who is "not able to find a job". There are many people who can't find a job that they are willing to do at prevailing wages, but there is no one "not able to find a job".
Not only do individual people need some reeducation, along with an attitude adjustment, but our society needs an attitude adjustment as well. Our nation is facing a crisis, with millions (literally millions) of illegal aliens sneaking in for the opportunities available here. Meanwhile, millions of worthless American citizens lie around their government supplied apartments, doing nothing constructive. I say, put those lazy no-goods to work picking lettuce, tomatoes, and cotton. Just stop feeding them, and they will be happy to go work in the sun all day.
"bullshit like this"
I guess I assumed the "bullshit" to mean any insane laws meant to suck money out of the masses. In France's case, the government wants to suck the money, in SOPA's case, the government would allow the corporations to suck the money. All bullshit, really. SOPA, ACTA, DMCA, all of them are designed with the same goal in mind: to enrich the corporations, by milking the common man of pocket change, and/or punishing the common man with exorbitant penalties.
We don't? Than, what is that SOPA thing all about? Don't tell me that you think THAT battle is finished! They'll be back in mere months with a newer, sexier version, complete with a "Think of the children" soundbyte!
Wait - that went over my head. I drink coffee, and smoke cigarettes. I hate the government because the government taxes my cigarettes beyond any reasonable or rational expectation. Do I need any more reason to hate the government? I mean - anything else isn't even icing on the cake of hate, is it?
Luckily for me, I'm an American. "I invoke my rights under the fifth amendment, and refuse to offer self incriminating evidence, thank you very much!"
I think your field of view is to narrow. The United States and Europe both pay millions of people to do nothing. Cut welfare, and make those people get off their asses, and DO SOMETHING!!! Some of the welfare recipients are quite talented, and capable. Pushed out of their comfort zone, some (yeah, few, but some) will likely go into medical fields, energy, and all your etc.
Welfare hamstrings us as badly as some of our other problems.