You may or may not be mistaken, with your first statement. I think the HOSTS is parsed before DNS or any proxy is queried. But, even if you are right, the proxy server can be configured to use a HOSTS file. The IT guy has to do this, of course - Jane User can't set it up.
As pointed out by the previous post, there are better tools such as IPCop that the IT guy can put in place.
Nice try. You attempt to justify the user's failure to train himself in a job for which he is paid, to my failure to suck up to that user, for which I am NOT paid. Utter phail. When you are paid to use ANY sort of equipment, it is presumed that you have the technical skills to do so. When you demonstrate that presumption to be wrong, then you must be protected from yourself. More, I have to protect other people from your ignorance.
FFS, the workplace isn't SUPPOSED to be a day care center, or a group therapy session. Shut the fuck up, do your job properly, and let me do my job!! If you really need someone to stroke your ego, get a girl friend!!
I realize that you may be fishing here - but I'll bite. What's wrong with system monitor? Granted, there are other tools that may be more fine-grained, and there are also CLI tools for the purpose. But, why don't you like system monitor? You're an old-school purist? If that's the case, I'll readily admit that I am not. I spend most of my time using GUI.
Obviously, I can't mod you up. You deserve about 20 insightful points. "Run as" has been around forever, but no one wants to use it. Your method is pretty slick, I like it.
Actually - if you sit down and study most text books, you will realize that most of the content is indeed public domain. English, math, geography, whatever - copyright trolls are publishing nothing new. It isn't like they are researching a new field, and publishing original work. They sift knowledge that is public domain, reprint old, common knowledge, and try to pass it off as unique. In reality, the only thing that might be unique about them, is when some liberal group like the GLBT manage to insert left wing indoctrination material into a text book. None of that trash belongs in education anyway, and the group responsible should be raked over the coals for the attempt.
At a guess, javascript is enabled. That's why noscript is so good, and adblockplus. Assuming you can't install Firefox, at least disable javascript in your browser. Set all of your security settings to high in IE. Hopefully, you informed the IT department of the drive-by, so that they know their machines are vulnerable. HOST file can alleviate the problem, just download some of the readily available files from the internet, and copy them over your old file. Hostess program is good for merging files.
Point taken. I'll make a counter point, though. I'm not a people person. I don't hang at the water cooler to chat with people, because I just don't give a damn about the gossip. I don't care that the secretary's daughter's cheerleading team won an award, don't care that the forklift driver just bought a new motorcycle - I'm not a people person. I'm sure as hell not going to make some eye candy presentation to teach people about the hazards involved. I'm willing to send an email, telling them how stupid it is to install this crap, and detail how and why it's stupid.
If they can't or won't learn from a simple email explanation - I call trump with my authoritarian mindset. I'm responsible for the network, which implies the authority to put policy in place to protect the network. Anyone who failed to learn from my email WILL bow to authority when he is locked out. I just don't give a crap how offended he might be. We can go together to the front office, to explain the situation to the boss. No problem.
"Start with removing them from local Admin group for a start."
I'll second that. Make sure they have no privileges outside their specific job description. If "Limited User" isn't good enough, go to group policies and restrict them there. Lock the user down tight, and he won't be able to run these scripts or install anything. No mercy - if you have to protect a dumbass from himself, protect him. You wouldn't let your toddler play in traffic, would you?
I've had those things pop up on Linux machines, and they report dozens of infections. Once, I couldn't kill the blasted thing, nor could I close Firefox. I had to go to the system monitor, and kill Firefox to regain control of my browser. Aggravating bit of nonsense, especially since I had several windows and tabs open.
"with the implicit statement that your one outlier lemon opinion somehow trumps millions of the contrary"
Odd. Somehow, you failed to pick up on the real implied statement. Gaming is an unimportant aspect of computing that appeals to the juveniles amongst us. It has, after all, been noted by a number of people that our society coddles children today all the way through their '50's. I've read a number of articles in which women bemoan the lack of mature men who are willing and able to commit to supporting a family. How many neo-geeks live in their mama's basements, but own (tens of) thousands of dollars worth of games and gaming equipment?
Think about that for a bit, before responding, alright?
Does this open the door for politicos and other "celebrity" figures to sue people like me for voicing an opinion? The presidents for instance. Carter was an inept bungler - can he sue me for saying so? Clinton was a treasonous bastard, not to mention a philanderer. Should I fear another lawsuit? Bush was a freaking insane crusader, and his VP a bastard vivisectionist. I probably don't need to fear a suit from THEM - they'll just abduct me, and I'll be the next subject of a vivisection. All nice and legal, of course, in the interest of national security. Haven't said much bad about our current president, except that he's a funny looking nappy headed kid. Am I O.K. with that one?
In short, Jack threatens free speech. If he gets away with censoring people because it hurts his "good name" or some such meaningless drivel, it opens the door to a whole HELL of a lot more abuse of human rights.
Oh yeah - Jack, you're a fucking dickhead. Now go sit in your room do what you do best. Drool like an idiot, and watch the dust motes floating in the sunlight.
"Making copies without explicit permission of the copyright holder is also illegal under Copyright law."
This is what the "IP owners" would like you to believe. In fact, it is legal to make a backup copy, or more accurately, a "working copy" for use at the desk, then put the original disk into storage for safekeeping. This helps to protect against theft, amongst other things. Someone steals my disk, I just go to storage, make a new "working copy", and put the original back where it belongs. In storage. This is part of reasonable use.
Opinions are just like assholes. Everyone has one, they all stink, and the biggest assholes stink the worst. Unless you have a fetish, and happen to like big asses.
millions of opinions != and !> my personal opinion
Linux rocks, windows sucks, and precious few games have ever been published that were worth ten bucks, let alone the sticker price. For guidance, Age of Empires was worth about 7 bucks, and AOE sequels might be worth a dollar each.
I dunno - I thought it happened every time Nemesis came around. The Mayan calendar, and all that other nonsense. The dark star approaches (insert something sinister, like the theme from Jaws) and there's nothing we can do about it!!
The NERVE of those Chinese! Their site is written in CHINESE!! Don't they know that half the world is monolingual? oh - wait - wut did I just say? Whoops, they ARE almost half the world!
"As a pleasant side effect, disabling the Green Dam components within a running process actually increases the security of the end host as the vulnerable code paths within the Green Dam software are no longer exploitable by an attacker. "
That being true, I want to install Green Dam so that I can use Dam Burst. Awesome!! Our benevolent brothers in China have helped to make teh intartubez secure!!!
Reaching beyond the realms of ridiculous doesn't invalidate the point that the GP made. You concentrate on a conversation, sometimes to the exclusion of all else. The mechanics of holding the telephone to your ear isn't what makes the cell phone dangerous, it is the distraction of the conversation. Follow the links, look at the statistics, google around for more studies. Find the facts, and use them to evaluate the real problem. Mocking GP proves nothing except that you have limited wit.
Passenger CAN BE a distraction. Passengers CAN also warn you of a danger before you notice it. Tradeoff, there, right?
Children CAN BE a distraction. But, children also need to go to school, doctor's office, hospital, and a million other places. Do you propose that no one under the age of "x" can ride in a motor vehicle? As I said - beyond the realms of ridiculous - not even worth considering.
Sorry, sitting at a red light isn't the time to turn your brain off, and diddle with that telephone. Pay attention to the traffic. Among other things, a tractor trailer may be making a left turn, and you need to move a few feet to let him get by. Some fool may run the red light and cause an accident - you should be able to make a statement to the police. An old lady may stroke out, and fall to the pavement in front of you - you didn't see her, so when the light turns green, you just drive over her. Do you ever look in the rear view mirror while stopped? The guy behind you may NOT stop - you might wish to move out of his way at the last second.
In short, SHUT UP AND DRIVE!! If you're behind the wheel, no matter where, you have a responsibility to be ALERT!
Great, common sense wins for once. If the cops really need to track someone, they can still do so. It only takes a short period of time to ask a judge to sign a warrant. If a judge isn't willing to sign the warrant, then the cops have no case, simple as that. Lazy cops who would rather rely on technology instead of "police work" have no business being a cop.
Kinda off subject, maybe, but the US and Oz aren't all that terribly different. The American colonies had their share of convicts and/or people running from persecution, or outlaws dodging court dates etc. A large number of "bond servants" helped to settle our colonies. Who, exactly, were bond servants? People bought out of debtor's prison, people facing debtor's prison, scoundrels avoiding debts that might be coming due. Someone who was actually interested in the subject could probably write a thesis on the subject, "What motivated American immigrants to come to America?"
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You may or may not be mistaken, with your first statement. I think the HOSTS is parsed before DNS or any proxy is queried. But, even if you are right, the proxy server can be configured to use a HOSTS file. The IT guy has to do this, of course - Jane User can't set it up.
As pointed out by the previous post, there are better tools such as IPCop that the IT guy can put in place.
Nice try. You attempt to justify the user's failure to train himself in a job for which he is paid, to my failure to suck up to that user, for which I am NOT paid. Utter phail. When you are paid to use ANY sort of equipment, it is presumed that you have the technical skills to do so. When you demonstrate that presumption to be wrong, then you must be protected from yourself. More, I have to protect other people from your ignorance.
FFS, the workplace isn't SUPPOSED to be a day care center, or a group therapy session. Shut the fuck up, do your job properly, and let me do my job!! If you really need someone to stroke your ego, get a girl friend!!
I realize that you may be fishing here - but I'll bite. What's wrong with system monitor? Granted, there are other tools that may be more fine-grained, and there are also CLI tools for the purpose. But, why don't you like system monitor? You're an old-school purist? If that's the case, I'll readily admit that I am not. I spend most of my time using GUI.
Obviously, I can't mod you up. You deserve about 20 insightful points. "Run as" has been around forever, but no one wants to use it. Your method is pretty slick, I like it.
Actually - if you sit down and study most text books, you will realize that most of the content is indeed public domain. English, math, geography, whatever - copyright trolls are publishing nothing new. It isn't like they are researching a new field, and publishing original work. They sift knowledge that is public domain, reprint old, common knowledge, and try to pass it off as unique. In reality, the only thing that might be unique about them, is when some liberal group like the GLBT manage to insert left wing indoctrination material into a text book. None of that trash belongs in education anyway, and the group responsible should be raked over the coals for the attempt.
Education, by definition, is open source.
At a guess, javascript is enabled. That's why noscript is so good, and adblockplus. Assuming you can't install Firefox, at least disable javascript in your browser. Set all of your security settings to high in IE. Hopefully, you informed the IT department of the drive-by, so that they know their machines are vulnerable. HOST file can alleviate the problem, just download some of the readily available files from the internet, and copy them over your old file. Hostess program is good for merging files.
Point taken. I'll make a counter point, though. I'm not a people person. I don't hang at the water cooler to chat with people, because I just don't give a damn about the gossip. I don't care that the secretary's daughter's cheerleading team won an award, don't care that the forklift driver just bought a new motorcycle - I'm not a people person. I'm sure as hell not going to make some eye candy presentation to teach people about the hazards involved. I'm willing to send an email, telling them how stupid it is to install this crap, and detail how and why it's stupid.
If they can't or won't learn from a simple email explanation - I call trump with my authoritarian mindset. I'm responsible for the network, which implies the authority to put policy in place to protect the network. Anyone who failed to learn from my email WILL bow to authority when he is locked out. I just don't give a crap how offended he might be. We can go together to the front office, to explain the situation to the boss. No problem.
"Start with removing them from local Admin group for a start."
I'll second that. Make sure they have no privileges outside their specific job description. If "Limited User" isn't good enough, go to group policies and restrict them there. Lock the user down tight, and he won't be able to run these scripts or install anything. No mercy - if you have to protect a dumbass from himself, protect him. You wouldn't let your toddler play in traffic, would you?
I've had those things pop up on Linux machines, and they report dozens of infections. Once, I couldn't kill the blasted thing, nor could I close Firefox. I had to go to the system monitor, and kill Firefox to regain control of my browser. Aggravating bit of nonsense, especially since I had several windows and tabs open.
"with the implicit statement that your one outlier lemon opinion somehow trumps millions of the contrary"
Odd. Somehow, you failed to pick up on the real implied statement. Gaming is an unimportant aspect of computing that appeals to the juveniles amongst us. It has, after all, been noted by a number of people that our society coddles children today all the way through their '50's. I've read a number of articles in which women bemoan the lack of mature men who are willing and able to commit to supporting a family. How many neo-geeks live in their mama's basements, but own (tens of) thousands of dollars worth of games and gaming equipment?
Think about that for a bit, before responding, alright?
Does this open the door for politicos and other "celebrity" figures to sue people like me for voicing an opinion? The presidents for instance. Carter was an inept bungler - can he sue me for saying so? Clinton was a treasonous bastard, not to mention a philanderer. Should I fear another lawsuit? Bush was a freaking insane crusader, and his VP a bastard vivisectionist. I probably don't need to fear a suit from THEM - they'll just abduct me, and I'll be the next subject of a vivisection. All nice and legal, of course, in the interest of national security. Haven't said much bad about our current president, except that he's a funny looking nappy headed kid. Am I O.K. with that one?
In short, Jack threatens free speech. If he gets away with censoring people because it hurts his "good name" or some such meaningless drivel, it opens the door to a whole HELL of a lot more abuse of human rights.
Oh yeah - Jack, you're a fucking dickhead. Now go sit in your room do what you do best. Drool like an idiot, and watch the dust motes floating in the sunlight.
"Making copies without explicit permission of the copyright holder is also illegal under Copyright law."
This is what the "IP owners" would like you to believe. In fact, it is legal to make a backup copy, or more accurately, a "working copy" for use at the desk, then put the original disk into storage for safekeeping. This helps to protect against theft, amongst other things. Someone steals my disk, I just go to storage, make a new "working copy", and put the original back where it belongs. In storage. This is part of reasonable use.
Opinions are just like assholes. Everyone has one, they all stink, and the biggest assholes stink the worst. Unless you have a fetish, and happen to like big asses.
millions of opinions != and !> my personal opinion
Linux rocks, windows sucks, and precious few games have ever been published that were worth ten bucks, let alone the sticker price. For guidance, Age of Empires was worth about 7 bucks, and AOE sequels might be worth a dollar each.
I dunno - I thought it happened every time Nemesis came around. The Mayan calendar, and all that other nonsense. The dark star approaches (insert something sinister, like the theme from Jaws) and there's nothing we can do about it!!
Louisiana? Isn't that somewhere near Texarkana? I've heard of it.....
People in Lower Alabama resent the way Californians just take LA for their own use.
My Google homepage gives me some neat quotes everyday. I naturally thought of you when I read this.
The only way to be truly misogynistic is to be a woman.
- Randy K. Milholland
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The NERVE of those Chinese! Their site is written in CHINESE!! Don't they know that half the world is monolingual? oh - wait - wut did I just say? Whoops, they ARE almost half the world!
"As a pleasant side effect, disabling the Green Dam components within a running process actually increases the security of the end host as the vulnerable code paths within the Green Dam software are no longer exploitable by an attacker. "
That being true, I want to install Green Dam so that I can use Dam Burst. Awesome!! Our benevolent brothers in China have helped to make teh intartubez secure!!!
Reaching beyond the realms of ridiculous doesn't invalidate the point that the GP made. You concentrate on a conversation, sometimes to the exclusion of all else. The mechanics of holding the telephone to your ear isn't what makes the cell phone dangerous, it is the distraction of the conversation. Follow the links, look at the statistics, google around for more studies. Find the facts, and use them to evaluate the real problem. Mocking GP proves nothing except that you have limited wit.
Passenger CAN BE a distraction. Passengers CAN also warn you of a danger before you notice it. Tradeoff, there, right?
Children CAN BE a distraction. But, children also need to go to school, doctor's office, hospital, and a million other places. Do you propose that no one under the age of "x" can ride in a motor vehicle? As I said - beyond the realms of ridiculous - not even worth considering.
Sorry, sitting at a red light isn't the time to turn your brain off, and diddle with that telephone. Pay attention to the traffic. Among other things, a tractor trailer may be making a left turn, and you need to move a few feet to let him get by. Some fool may run the red light and cause an accident - you should be able to make a statement to the police. An old lady may stroke out, and fall to the pavement in front of you - you didn't see her, so when the light turns green, you just drive over her. Do you ever look in the rear view mirror while stopped? The guy behind you may NOT stop - you might wish to move out of his way at the last second.
In short, SHUT UP AND DRIVE!! If you're behind the wheel, no matter where, you have a responsibility to be ALERT!
"After a horn honking at them the texter is going to be alert and aware of what's going on around them."
Should read more like this:
After a horn honking at him, the texter found himself aware of scrap metal, and bodies lying beside him in the ditch.
The thing is, it's stupid. You can screw up. And, sometimes you don't GET A SECOND CHANCE!! How much more can it be broken down?
Great, common sense wins for once. If the cops really need to track someone, they can still do so. It only takes a short period of time to ask a judge to sign a warrant. If a judge isn't willing to sign the warrant, then the cops have no case, simple as that. Lazy cops who would rather rely on technology instead of "police work" have no business being a cop.
Waitress? Hey, Waitress! I don't mean to be rude, but I only get 30 minutes for lunch!! One big bowl of Browser Soup, and extra addons, please!!
Kinda off subject, maybe, but the US and Oz aren't all that terribly different. The American colonies had their share of convicts and/or people running from persecution, or outlaws dodging court dates etc. A large number of "bond servants" helped to settle our colonies. Who, exactly, were bond servants? People bought out of debtor's prison, people facing debtor's prison, scoundrels avoiding debts that might be coming due. Someone who was actually interested in the subject could probably write a thesis on the subject, "What motivated American immigrants to come to America?"
Oh yeah, we had our share.