Right. But if you were from the opposite side, in the very south of Chili / Argentina, then you'd see the glaciers EXPANDING. So please don't just see what's happening on your doormat, and try to get the full picture. Also, even if this wasn't the case in south America, what's happening next to where you live tells nothing about WHY it's happening. Plus your "violent emotion" doesn't help...
We have certainly reached "Peak Oil" - we are not increasing oil production in the face of increasing oil demand.
Let's put it simple: NO! The day where not everybody gets what they order for hasn't come YET. Demand is still increasing, yet everyone gets what it is ready to pay for (but yes, it's getting more and more expensive). I believe it all depends on your definition of "peak oil", but for me, that's the peak of the "production" curve, and that curve is continuing to go up.
The problem isn't just how much oil there is remaining, but more how much it's going to cost. Yes, in 40 years, there WILL be oil remaining. But it's gona be too damned expensive to burn into a car engine, considering the costs of extractions. And this has already started. There's no oil as cheap as it used to be already.
You are being extremely naive. There was about 3 registrar issues last summer, and it's a well known FACT that governments (at least China and USA) are playing with certs (there was some real life cases reported, it's not just wild guesses here...). So if a government wants to get your key, it'd be really easy for them to replace the HTTPS hosted javascript. Do not forget too that there's the patriot act, and that you may very well be considered as a terrorist (everybody is, these days).
The problem isn't to demonstrate GW, or even AGW, everyone that is reasonable agrees both exist, the issue is HOW MUCH, and there, nobody agrees. If AGW is responsible for 0.01% of GW (with the rest of driven let's say by the sun), then there's nothing we can do and we shall adapt to the change. If it's 99%, we should do something.
And that's where the CRU emails are important. They show the danger of cooking the data used for the decision making process, delete points from the curves to show what you want, and escape FOIA requests, if you are working on the side of demonstrating the 99%. I don't mind if you are on one side or another, but please don't tell that it "is trivial" or that it "was easy", because if it was, there would be no debate.
Petrol based cars are polluting, that's a FACT, and nobody denies that. Go in LA or in Shanghai, and smell for yourself. And this has nothing to do with GW. Whatever happens, eliminating oil-based cars would be a good thing, but we never hear about acidic rains caused by the excess of CO2 production, or the effect of nasty pollution like benzene. Trying to mix both debate is just wrong and driving us away from the real debate about pollution.
That is, if you trust SSL and the certificate things, and trust that DigiNotar event can't happen, that there's no evil government running their own root CA, etc. To me, that's a big IF !
Well, that's how it goes nowadays. If it gets extremely hot, then it's global warming^W^W climate change fault. Same if it gets really cold. Whatever weather event you have, they say it's a climate problem due to AGW. As there will always be weak enough minds to believe such crap, it will go on and on and on...
I was expecting something like that from a denier like you. The bottom line is that I don't care if you trust only "main stream media". Some people also are denying world war 2 crimes you know, so this looks so tiny compared to it...
Citation needed... By the way, the personal situation of protesters has NOTHING to do with the protest itself, you are pointing fingers at the guys having a message rather than commenting the message itself.
Defacing property with no message is wrong.
Every time someone tells it's lazy hippies, they also say they have no messages. It's simply blind wrong.
If anything many support the tentants of communism and socialism that I find a problem rather than a solution.
So, they had no message, and suddenly they is "communism and socialism"? Please choose one of the 2. By the way, since you seem to vouch for the Tea Party, you'd be happy to learn that many of the protesters are Ron Paul supporters too. This is light-years away from the communism and socialism you are talking about.
I wrote about blocking news coverage and censorship, for which China, to an even bigger degree, is famous for. I didn't write about police violence, but of course, I can make the difference between murders in TianAnMen square and tents confiscation that park! Please don't put words in my mouth.
A lot of people living in an area with a lot of trash build up.
Why were the trash not managed by the mayor? Is the city of NY is too poor to manage trashes? Do you think the protestors would have been against cleaning by the city when they were on site?
Now the press tends to get sensitive whenever they are barred from anywhere and tend to make a big deal out of it.
But IT IS a big deal. That's called censorship.
It could just be the case they only want authorized personal who is part of the cleanup in the area. The press will only get in their way of doing their job.
You mean clean the area of protesters, right? Or are you really naive up to thinking that without tents, sleeping bags and so on, there can be people staying on site 24/24?
And I am willing to expect they will come back to a clean and safe protest spot.
I am expecting that with rain and without protection against it, nobody will be able to stay at night.
How do we know that they're doing it to "prevent news coverage" as opposed to simply implementing part of their plan to clean up the park?
Maybe because many journalists are reporting it? Or will you go up to pretending that all journalists are part of a conspiracy?
The morning news sure doesn't seem to be having any problems reporting it.
Reporting it on the morning news is certainly very different from having pictures of (violent?) police acts, destroying^W confiscating tents and pulling away protesters. By the way, the same happened in France at Occupons La Defence, if you want to see. Damned, I thought that only French were brutal enough to do that... yet few days later, NYC authorities found it to be a great idea!
And they mayor said that there "may be" some kind of court order from some judge somewhere.
Or RussiaToday, they said that the excuse was health and cleanness of the park (which I believe, the mayor must be accountable for). Did the NYC mayor say something else at a news conference?
TV? Citation? You mean this? Well, TV agrees that the journalists were blocked.
You might also be interested in looking up the definition of the word temporary. It might also help you not look like a complete fucking retard if you paid attention to the phrase[...]
Your shouldn't so sure who the fuck is paying attention and who is retarded. Exactly where did you see me commenting on the occupy movement or the fact they could return or not? I commented on journalists being blocked only.
I wrote about news coverage and journalist being blocked, which is an act of censorship. I didn't comment at all about the occupy movement itself, the eventual property damage they may or may not have done, or even their political message, or $whatever-about-them... Could you please learn how to read before you comment on me?
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Right. But if you were from the opposite side, in the very south of Chili / Argentina, then you'd see the glaciers EXPANDING. So please don't just see what's happening on your doormat, and try to get the full picture. Also, even if this wasn't the case in south America, what's happening next to where you live tells nothing about WHY it's happening. Plus your "violent emotion" doesn't help...
So, a factor of 2 equals to "slightly less"? That's a big "slightly less" to me...
We have certainly reached "Peak Oil" - we are not increasing oil production in the face of increasing oil demand.
Let's put it simple: NO! The day where not everybody gets what they order for hasn't come YET. Demand is still increasing, yet everyone gets what it is ready to pay for (but yes, it's getting more and more expensive). I believe it all depends on your definition of "peak oil", but for me, that's the peak of the "production" curve, and that curve is continuing to go up.
The problem isn't just how much oil there is remaining, but more how much it's going to cost. Yes, in 40 years, there WILL be oil remaining. But it's gona be too damned expensive to burn into a car engine, considering the costs of extractions. And this has already started. There's no oil as cheap as it used to be already.
You are being extremely naive. There was about 3 registrar issues last summer, and it's a well known FACT that governments (at least China and USA) are playing with certs (there was some real life cases reported, it's not just wild guesses here...). So if a government wants to get your key, it'd be really easy for them to replace the HTTPS hosted javascript. Do not forget too that there's the patriot act, and that you may very well be considered as a terrorist (everybody is, these days).
The problem isn't to demonstrate GW, or even AGW, everyone that is reasonable agrees both exist, the issue is HOW MUCH, and there, nobody agrees. If AGW is responsible for 0.01% of GW (with the rest of driven let's say by the sun), then there's nothing we can do and we shall adapt to the change. If it's 99%, we should do something.
And that's where the CRU emails are important. They show the danger of cooking the data used for the decision making process, delete points from the curves to show what you want, and escape FOIA requests, if you are working on the side of demonstrating the 99%. I don't mind if you are on one side or another, but please don't tell that it "is trivial" or that it "was easy", because if it was, there would be no debate.
Petrol based cars are polluting, that's a FACT, and nobody denies that. Go in LA or in Shanghai, and smell for yourself. And this has nothing to do with GW. Whatever happens, eliminating oil-based cars would be a good thing, but we never hear about acidic rains caused by the excess of CO2 production, or the effect of nasty pollution like benzene. Trying to mix both debate is just wrong and driving us away from the real debate about pollution.
Can you make the difference between lobby funding and research funding? Or is it too much to ask?
The problem, what if you dont wanna use an email client ?
If you don't want to use an email client, don't read/write emails. End of the story...
That is, if you trust SSL and the certificate things, and trust that DigiNotar event can't happen, that there's no evil government running their own root CA, etc. To me, that's a big IF !
I can't take it anymore! What has become of this planet?
Please do not confuse USA with the rest of the world!
I only use sourceforge to download ... software I want to make a package for! :)
"Desktop Linux" with PulseAudio
It works for me!
Well, that's how it goes nowadays. If it gets extremely hot, then it's global warming^W^W climate change fault. Same if it gets really cold. Whatever weather event you have, they say it's a climate problem due to AGW. As there will always be weak enough minds to believe such crap, it will go on and on and on...
Aaahh yes. An insult. Truly the highest form of arguing.
Where exactly did you read an insult from me? You must be hallucinating... By the way, nobody believes there's a conspiracy, just an evil government.
Show me some substantial evidence and I'll believe it.
What kind of "substantial evidence" do you think someone can bring in this case, if you don't want to trust witnesses?
I was expecting something like that from a denier like you. The bottom line is that I don't care if you trust only "main stream media". Some people also are denying world war 2 crimes you know, so this looks so tiny compared to it...
Sure! http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/u/15/tpq-moDIkl8
At 1:43 they say that it has been violent when removing the tents. At 2:10 they talk about blockades.
refusing to get jobs or at least look
Citation needed... By the way, the personal situation of protesters has NOTHING to do with the protest itself, you are pointing fingers at the guys having a message rather than commenting the message itself.
Defacing property with no message is wrong.
Every time someone tells it's lazy hippies, they also say they have no messages. It's simply blind wrong.
If anything many support the tentants of communism and socialism that I find a problem rather than a solution.
So, they had no message, and suddenly they is "communism and socialism"? Please choose one of the 2. By the way, since you seem to vouch for the Tea Party, you'd be happy to learn that many of the protesters are Ron Paul supporters too. This is light-years away from the communism and socialism you are talking about.
I wrote about blocking news coverage and censorship, for which China, to an even bigger degree, is famous for. I didn't write about police violence, but of course, I can make the difference between murders in TianAnMen square and tents confiscation that park! Please don't put words in my mouth.
Is that poll actually being used
It's being used to collect web browsing data about you... :)
A lot of people living in an area with a lot of trash build up.
Why were the trash not managed by the mayor? Is the city of NY is too poor to manage trashes? Do you think the protestors would have been against cleaning by the city when they were on site?
Now the press tends to get sensitive whenever they are barred from anywhere and tend to make a big deal out of it.
But IT IS a big deal. That's called censorship.
It could just be the case they only want authorized personal who is part of the cleanup in the area. The press will only get in their way of doing their job.
No, obviously, they don't want the press to see what it can look like when removing the tents of one of the occupy movements (here in Paris), which isn't fun to watch.
But I expect they just want to clean the area up.
You mean clean the area of protesters, right? Or are you really naive up to thinking that without tents, sleeping bags and so on, there can be people staying on site 24/24?
And I am willing to expect they will come back to a clean and safe protest spot.
I am expecting that with rain and without protection against it, nobody will be able to stay at night.
How do we know that they're doing it to "prevent news coverage" as opposed to simply implementing part of their plan to clean up the park?
Maybe because many journalists are reporting it? Or will you go up to pretending that all journalists are part of a conspiracy?
The morning news sure doesn't seem to be having any problems reporting it.
Reporting it on the morning news is certainly very different from having pictures of (violent?) police acts, destroying^W confiscating tents and pulling away protesters. By the way, the same happened in France at Occupons La Defence, if you want to see. Damned, I thought that only French were brutal enough to do that... yet few days later, NYC authorities found it to be a great idea!
And they mayor said that there "may be" some kind of court order from some judge somewhere.
Or RussiaToday, they said that the excuse was health and cleanness of the park (which I believe, the mayor must be accountable for). Did the NYC mayor say something else at a news conference?
Or maybe you could try turning on the TV
TV? Citation? You mean this? Well, TV agrees that the journalists were blocked.
You might also be interested in looking up the definition of the word temporary. It might also help you not look like a complete fucking retard if you paid attention to the phrase[...]
Your shouldn't so sure who the fuck is paying attention and who is retarded. Exactly where did you see me commenting on the occupy movement or the fact they could return or not? I commented on journalists being blocked only.
I wrote about news coverage and journalist being blocked, which is an act of censorship. I didn't comment at all about the occupy movement itself, the eventual property damage they may or may not have done, or even their political message, or $whatever-about-them... Could you please learn how to read before you comment on me?