Black Ice is suing MAPS over defamation and unfair business practices. This is not in any way a free speech issue, and the supreme court will never hear the case (unless MAPS wins). Free speech does not give you the right to defame others. By putting its IP addresses on the MAPS block list, MAPS is saying that those IP addresses originate spam. If this is untrue, that is defamation. Free speech does not give you the right to engage in unfair business practices. To use the consumer reports analogy that is used in the article, lets say Time Magazine comes out with a special consumer reports edition. Every month they rank ISPs, and every month they rank Earthlink at the top. One day AOL buys out Time Warner. The next month, Earthlink is ranked dead last. Even if everything is formulated as an opinion, such as to avoid a defamation suit, you can be sure that Earthlink will sue AOLTW for unfair business practices, and rightly so. It will then be up to Earthlink to show evidence that AOLTW acted in an unfair manner (evidence might show that a Time writer called up Earthlink to say "ha ha"), and it will be up to AOLTW to show that it acted fairly (maybe they could show that over the previous month busy signals went up 5000%). It will be up to the judge to decide who he believes. In any case, it's not a free speech issue, at all.
So now, thanks to this story on/., freeboxen is going to be inundated with hard-core geeks looking for boxes, and no new clueless newbies to donate new boxes. The website might not be/.ed, but...
Where can I get me one of these "quantum computer" things? Do they have the OS preinstalled?
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You bet! I'll be more than happy to use my cable modem to build up a shopping list, then use a free dialup to make the actual purchase. And I'll be sure to send a taunting email to AT&T every time I do it.
Oops, but when downloaded your modem software and clicked OK, you agreed that all shopping carts made while on the AT&T network will be purchased exclusively through the AT&T network. Now you're going to jail for contributory circumvention of shrink wrap licenses!
If you don't agree with this, and you were a shareholder of Microsoft as of September 8, 2000, be sure to vote NO on proposal 2: To approve the adoption of the 2001 Stock Plan. I need to read over the details before I decide how to vote my shares. Just think, if every one of us would just put our money where our mouth was we could have a hostile takeover of Microsoft, submit a shareholder proposal, and GPL the product. Or would we do the same thing if it was our money on the line? [Disclaimer and Disclosure - author of this post is a shareholder of Microsoft Corporation]
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mod the parent up. Something is fishy about this idea. It seems that anyone who has taken Internet 101 would see this as an impossible thing to do without the consent of the merchant. If a merchant refuses (and many if not most will), @home can't shut these merchants off without pissing off way too many customers. C'mon, even AOL allows users to use the web.
Of course, we know that Good Times really is a virus, which propagates itself around the internet. Instead of capitalizing on a bug in the OS, it capitalizes on a bug in the user, which causes the user to think the message is legitimate, and pass it on. See also, "The GPL Virus".
When I read "will fully disclose all vulnerabilities in software that come to it's notice 45 days after the fact whether or not companies have provided a fix", I took that to mean that they would never provide full disclosure before 45 days. Not true at all, they will provide dislosure within 45 days. Big difference. Also (pet peeve, but I wouldn't post if only for this), you spelled "its" wrong.
2) the point was not just one person doing it, but meny people... and when a store is loosing $4000 a week they WILL care
Yeah, and when the revolution comes, and the store owners find out that all these people weren't even going to actually buy a DVD player, but were just following advice by moron on slashdot, the store will more likely boycott slashdot, not start selling illegal players. Personally, I wish the best of luck to all these technical barriers. Let the companies have what they want, and let the people decide if they want they. I hate companies like Netscape who make a product illegal to use knowing that people are going to ignore the law and using it as a form of price discrimination (the 30 day free trial joke). I don't enjoy breaking the law but the current system makes you a sucker not to.
Robert Metcalfe founded 3Com Corporation and designed the Ethernet protocol for computer networks. Metcalfe's Law states that the usefulness, or utility, of a network equals the square of the number of users. I believe that this is true of internet traffic. If we had metered bandwidth, less people would post on slashdot, less people would share their napster files, there would be fewer downloads of linux, fewer patches posted for linux, a dramatically, exponentially smaller free software movement. The internet would suck.
That's a completely different quote. For all we know that was said 5 hours later.
Eric Raymond, author of the open-source manifesto "The Cathedral and the Bazaar," also sees room for others to get credit. "Cygnus (Tiemann's company before Red Hat bought it) has a claim to have started the open-source revolution; so does Richard Stallman; and for that matter so do I," he said.
It's interesting that Eric Raymond mentions Cygnus, but not Red Hat...
Of course Red Hat never said they invented open source either, as that quote was taken out of context, which just makes the Al Gore quote even more ironic and funny. "We did start the open-source revolution," chief technology officer Michael Tiemann boasted at a WR Hambrecht conference on open-source companies. Neither is Michael Tiemann Red Hat, nor does we necessarily mean Red Hat.
I'd like to hear why you need 100Mb from the internal network to the DMZ... Presumably the DMZ has 1.5Mb or so at most. So whatever service you have which is transferring data between the inside network and the DMZ, but not the DMZ and the internet, maybe you should consider putting that computer inside the network (and possibly/probably proxying to a different computer in the DMZ). This will not only solve your problem, it will probably be much more secure.
You don't even need a check! In fact, you can just give your bank account number over the telephone... Most banks will require the depositor to print out an actual draft, complete with account number in the special ink that can be read by the banks computer.
Telephone checks and all paper drafts are established as a legal method of payment as provided in the Uniform Commercial Code, Title 1, Section 1-201 (39) and Title 3, Sections 3-104, and 3-403;
Code of Federal Regulations, Title 12 chapter II, Part 210 and Regulations J, Federal Reserve Bank, Part 2, Sections 4a-201 to 4a-212. Only verbal agreement is required for authorization.
faxed signatures???? Oh c'mon, I was in 4th grade when I figured out how easy it was to copy my dad's signature from his checkbook onto my dentention notices. (Of course I got caught one time when I left the notice in the copying machine!)
actually, due to the deregulation of the telecomm industry, they can already do that... they still won't be a monopoly, because there is now competition.
An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted on by an outside force. No duh, that's why I go through the windshield when I try to stop my car really fast, unless acted on by my seatbelt. Seems pretty obvious to me. Why did it take thousands of years to be discovered? Sometimes things seem quite obvious after the fact. Sometimes the more obvious it seems after the fact, the more ingenious it really was.
Would one-click shopping have been "invented" if it weren't for the patent? Hell yeah. Not only would someone have come up with it by now if it weren't for Amazon.com, Amazon.com would have still "released" the idea if it weren't for patent law. Amazon.com's patent is legal, it's the law that's messed up. Amazon's (and Apple's) executives are required by law to perform in a way to maximize their companies profits. But go ahead, boycott away, but I hope you intend to live alone and build everything you ever use by yourself, if you intend to boycott every company that follows bad laws.
b) If you only encrypt your 'sensitive' data, then whoever you're hiding from know's what you think's important leaving them with only a few hundred K to decrypt. However, if you're whole hdd is encrypted, then they'll have to dig through multiple gigs of metalica MP3s in order to find your plans for bombing the UN building.
However, if your whole hdd is encrypted, then they'll have multiple gigs of metallica MP3s to perform cryptanalysis on too...
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Black Ice is suing MAPS over defamation and unfair business practices. This is not in any way a free speech issue, and the supreme court will never hear the case (unless MAPS wins). Free speech does not give you the right to defame others. By putting its IP addresses on the MAPS block list, MAPS is saying that those IP addresses originate spam. If this is untrue, that is defamation. Free speech does not give you the right to engage in unfair business practices. To use the consumer reports analogy that is used in the article, lets say Time Magazine comes out with a special consumer reports edition. Every month they rank ISPs, and every month they rank Earthlink at the top. One day AOL buys out Time Warner. The next month, Earthlink is ranked dead last. Even if everything is formulated as an opinion, such as to avoid a defamation suit, you can be sure that Earthlink will sue AOLTW for unfair business practices, and rightly so. It will then be up to Earthlink to show evidence that AOLTW acted in an unfair manner (evidence might show that a Time writer called up Earthlink to say "ha ha"), and it will be up to AOLTW to show that it acted fairly (maybe they could show that over the previous month busy signals went up 5000%). It will be up to the judge to decide who he believes. In any case, it's not a free speech issue, at all.
So now, thanks to this story on /., freeboxen is going to be inundated with hard-core geeks looking for boxes, and no new clueless newbies to donate new boxes. The website might not be /.ed, but...
Where can I get me one of these "quantum computer" things? Do they have the OS preinstalled?
You bet! I'll be more than happy to use my cable modem to build up a shopping list, then use a free dialup to make the actual purchase. And I'll be sure to send a taunting email to AT&T every time I do it.
Oops, but when downloaded your modem software and clicked OK, you agreed that all shopping carts made while on the AT&T network will be purchased exclusively through the AT&T network. Now you're going to jail for contributory circumvention of shrink wrap licenses!
If you don't agree with this, and you were a shareholder of Microsoft as of September 8, 2000, be sure to vote NO on proposal 2: To approve the adoption of the 2001 Stock Plan. I need to read over the details before I decide how to vote my shares. Just think, if every one of us would just put our money where our mouth was we could have a hostile takeover of Microsoft, submit a shareholder proposal, and GPL the product. Or would we do the same thing if it was our money on the line? [Disclaimer and Disclosure - author of this post is a shareholder of Microsoft Corporation]
mod the parent up. Something is fishy about this idea. It seems that anyone who has taken Internet 101 would see this as an impossible thing to do without the consent of the merchant. If a merchant refuses (and many if not most will), @home can't shut these merchants off without pissing off way too many customers. C'mon, even AOL allows users to use the web.
Of course, we know that Good Times really is a virus, which propagates itself around the internet. Instead of capitalizing on a bug in the OS, it capitalizes on a bug in the user, which causes the user to think the message is legitimate, and pass it on. See also, "The GPL Virus".
C'mon people, RSA is now in the public domain, you have no right to complain about not using it.
When I read "will fully disclose all vulnerabilities in software that come to it's notice 45 days after the fact whether or not companies have provided a fix", I took that to mean that they would never provide full disclosure before 45 days. Not true at all, they will provide dislosure within 45 days. Big difference. Also (pet peeve, but I wouldn't post if only for this), you spelled "its" wrong.
2) the point was not just one person doing it, but meny people... and when a store is loosing $4000 a week they WILL care
Yeah, and when the revolution comes, and the store owners find out that all these people weren't even going to actually buy a DVD player, but were just following advice by moron on slashdot, the store will more likely boycott slashdot, not start selling illegal players. Personally, I wish the best of luck to all these technical barriers. Let the companies have what they want, and let the people decide if they want they. I hate companies like Netscape who make a product illegal to use knowing that people are going to ignore the law and using it as a form of price discrimination (the 30 day free trial joke). I don't enjoy breaking the law but the current system makes you a sucker not to.
Robert Metcalfe founded 3Com Corporation and designed the Ethernet protocol for computer networks. Metcalfe's Law states that the usefulness, or utility, of a network equals the square of the number of users. I believe that this is true of internet traffic. If we had metered bandwidth, less people would post on slashdot, less people would share their napster files, there would be fewer downloads of linux, fewer patches posted for linux, a dramatically, exponentially smaller free software movement. The internet would suck.
some are illiterate, others just can't count :)
That's a completely different quote. For all we know that was said 5 hours later.
Eric Raymond, author of the open-source manifesto "The Cathedral and the Bazaar," also sees room for others to get credit. "Cygnus (Tiemann's company before Red Hat bought it) has a claim to have started the open-source revolution; so does Richard Stallman; and for that matter so do I," he said.
It's interesting that Eric Raymond mentions Cygnus, but not Red Hat...
Of course Red Hat never said they invented open source either, as that quote was taken out of context, which just makes the Al Gore quote even more ironic and funny. "We did start the open-source revolution," chief technology officer Michael Tiemann boasted at a WR Hambrecht conference on open-source companies. Neither is Michael Tiemann Red Hat, nor does we necessarily mean Red Hat.
I'd like to hear why you need 100Mb from the internal network to the DMZ... Presumably the DMZ has 1.5Mb or so at most. So whatever service you have which is transferring data between the inside network and the DMZ, but not the DMZ and the internet, maybe you should consider putting that computer inside the network (and possibly/probably proxying to a different computer in the DMZ). This will not only solve your problem, it will probably be much more secure.
You don't even need a check! In fact, you can just give your bank account number over the telephone... Most banks will require the depositor to print out an actual draft, complete with account number in the special ink that can be read by the banks computer.
Telephone checks and all paper drafts are established as a legal method of payment as provided in the Uniform Commercial Code, Title 1, Section 1-201 (39) and Title 3, Sections 3-104, and 3-403;
Code of Federal Regulations, Title 12 chapter II, Part 210 and Regulations J, Federal Reserve Bank, Part 2, Sections 4a-201 to 4a-212. Only verbal agreement is required for authorization.
Also see Romani V Harris, 255Md 389.
faxed signatures???? Oh c'mon, I was in 4th grade when I figured out how easy it was to copy my dad's signature from his checkbook onto my dentention notices. (Of course I got caught one time when I left the notice in the copying machine!)
hey now, how do you know that I didn't download my music to my DAT tape?
ftp.cdrom.com:
Xeon/500, 4GB memory, 1/2 terabyte RAID 5, FreeBSD, 100 MB colocation by Applied Theory.
ftp.freesoftware.com:
Xeon/550, 4GB memory, 400 GB RAID 5, FreeBSD, 1GB colocation by Lightning Internet.
actually, due to the deregulation of the telecomm industry, they can already do that... they still won't be a monopoly, because there is now competition.
An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted on by an outside force. No duh, that's why I go through the windshield when I try to stop my car really fast, unless acted on by my seatbelt. Seems pretty obvious to me. Why did it take thousands of years to be discovered? Sometimes things seem quite obvious after the fact. Sometimes the more obvious it seems after the fact, the more ingenious it really was.
Would one-click shopping have been "invented" if it weren't for the patent? Hell yeah. Not only would someone have come up with it by now if it weren't for Amazon.com, Amazon.com would have still "released" the idea if it weren't for patent law. Amazon.com's patent is legal, it's the law that's messed up. Amazon's (and Apple's) executives are required by law to perform in a way to maximize their companies profits. But go ahead, boycott away, but I hope you intend to live alone and build everything you ever use by yourself, if you intend to boycott every company that follows bad laws.
So if Microsoft is broken up, Windows becomes $1000, and everyone switches to Linux. Where's the problem?
huh? how could you change your password back if you forgot it? :)
boy, I hope they can handle the slashdot effect!
b) If you only encrypt your 'sensitive' data, then whoever you're hiding from know's what you think's important leaving them with only a few hundred K to decrypt. However, if you're whole hdd is encrypted, then they'll have to dig through multiple gigs of metalica MP3s in order to find your plans for bombing the UN building.
However, if your whole hdd is encrypted, then they'll have multiple gigs of metallica MP3s to perform cryptanalysis on too...