> it also devotes a chunk of text cautioning the potential buyer that it's only legal to use the copy if they already own the game
This is a cdr copy of the game. In order to purchase this game, you must comply with Law section 117 which states you already own the original, and just want a backup copy for it.
If your a big fan of the Final Fantasy series, then this is a must have for all you of, it just wouldnt be the same if you didnt have it in your collection.
Hold on a second. The person selling the game starts by saying that it's for backups only and that you must own the game already. Then, 5 sentences later, he's goes into why you should buy it and why if you don't have it, you must add it to your collection. Sorry, I think that shows he doesn't have a clue that putting up a legal disclaimer before breaking the law doesn't work.
Why does it take the threat of a judge making a ruling on a case to actually get these two together and try to work out an arrangement/resolution to this mess? Wouldn't it have saved both Microsoft and the taxpayers a ton of money if they could have tried this out in the first place.
OK, that's out of the way (since I know everyone's going to flame it). I really don't see how Microsoft is going to get any more than a slap on the wrist and told not to do it anymore. We could fine them, but how do you financially fine a company that makes 100's of billions a year? We could break it apart, but they would still be owned by the same people and everyone would go on making their profits, just like before. Hell, 3Com/USR/Palm has shown that it can even be a usefull business strategy. So then what? They could force MS to quasi-open source their software but ask Red Hat how terrible that is for business.
Personally, I think that the Justice Department is just wasting time and money really pursuing this.
Sounds like this is bad news for the programmers. Basically, they avoided any further legal problems by giving Mattel all of the rights to cphack. But now that Mattel has learned about the GPL, the deal with the programmers may be considered invalid since the programmers had promised that they were the only ones with rights to the software.
Kind of interesting. I'm a huge supporter of the GPL, but it looks like it could come back and bite these programmers in the ass. Basically, they can "give" Mattel the rights to the program, but anyone who had already downloaded cphack and accepted the GPL owns the rights to their copy of the software and they are free to distribute and modify it how they choose.
Anyone have any ideas how to prevent this from happening again in the future?
That's exacty what I was thinking? Why would you want to go from a DVD to VHS? There is no point. If I wanted VHS, I'd buy it rather than the DVD and get it a hell of a lot cheaper.
Yeah, it's neat that somebody hacked it, but it's like going around boasting that you reprogrammed the PROM in your car to only go 25 miles per hour. (Only useful if you valet park alot or have teenagers that want to borrow it)
I just finished taking a tour of the New Mexico State University's Engineering and Computer Technology facility. The manufacturing and electronics programs got together and built an entire computer controlled manufacturing plant out of Lego bricks and a PLC (Programable Logic Controller).
So you're saying that the ammount of time that you hold onto a domain without posting anything to it changes whether it is right or wrong?
I don't see how this argument could have any validity. That's like a corporation asking you to give up a piece of land you own so they can make a mall. Would you say "Well, since I don't have anything on the property, take it. I'm not using it."? No. Coca Cola does not own the rights to the word coke. Why should they bully someone with a coke domain out of it?
I'v seen a lot of comments that focus on the fact that USR is becoming a separate company. The thing is, 3Com is doing this because it is an easy "fundraiser".
If this is anything like the Palm IPO, 3Com's stock will drop a few dollars and they'll raise a fortune selling the USR stock. 3Com profits because they can keep controll of USR and selling it to investors as a different company, they can raise tons of money.
Rank Name Solved Penalty 1 St. Petersburg State University 7 941 2 University of Waterloo 7 1641 3 Albert Einstein University Ulm 6 1003 4 St. Petersburg Institute of Fine Mechanics and Optics 6 1051 5 The University of Melbourne 6 1156 6 Tsinghua University 6 1358 7 Kyoto University 5 1096 8 The Chinese University of Hong Kong 4 712 9 Shanghai JiaoTong University 4 758 10 University of Alberta 4 818 11 Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology 4 11 California Institute of Technology 4 11 Charles University Prague 4 11 ZhongShan University 4 15 Carnegie Mellon University 3 15 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 3 15 Moscow State University 3 15 University of Central Florida 3 15 University of Toronto 3 15 University of Washington 3 15 Virginia Tech 3 22 Bucharest University 2 22 Georgia Institute of Technology 2 22 Harvard University 2 22 Iowa State University 2 22 Novosibirsk State University 2 22 Southern Ural State University 2 22 Stanford University 2 22 Universidad de Buenos Aires 2 22 Universidad Politécnica de Madrid 2 22 University of Pretoria 2
Are you trying to be a silly first poster? It would be stupid for Corel to bundle Corel Draw with Office 2000. 90% of the people that buy office suites do not need that type of powerful graphics program and the ones who do have a need for it can purchase it. Why should they drive the price up for something that most people don't need?
Remember, 99 out of 100 computer users don't know what half the functions in MS Paint are.
That's one small step for man, one giant step for the porn industry.
But seriously, I like these "toy shows". Just because this isn't something you can get right now, give it a bit. Chances are, in a few years, you'll be buying either this technology or something that is based off this technology.
Also, there is another good part to this news. It's the technology breakthrough that is cool here. It's a case of "if we can do this in a test environment, how would we better be able to use this technology in a more practical, useful manner". It's like cars. Much of the technology you see standard in our cars today were designed to be used in race cars and aircraft. Basically, if we can make things faster, why can't we keep the speed the same but make them cheaper and more efficient with the same technology.
Someone has to maintain this "Rights Protection System," just like someone has to maintain Cyber Patrol. What chance does it have to find even a fraction of the napster servers, hotline servers, IRC channels, and, yes, even websites where pirate MP3s are being traded?
Yeah, that's a huge task in itself. But what about Gnutella? Forget blocking it. It's not going to be possible. Anyone can set up a server and by it's very nature, it's meant to be uncensorable (AKA unblockable).
First off. You can enter your login at the same time you post.
Now, beyond that. There are a lot of legitimate MP3's out on the market. Is it right to block those just because there is also pirating going on. I mean, that's like the police trying to shut down your local mall to prevent more shoplifting.
You say: "You don't have a "right" to view mp3s, especially ripped off mp3s". That's only half right. The law doesn't give you the right to view (listen) to ripped off MP3s. I have every right in the world to listen to the interview with some celebrity that CNN just put on there site for download that I want to hear. I have every right to go to MP3.com and download the latest songs from these new artists. I have every right to go to an established artists page and download the MP3 that they are giving away in the months before they release their CD. And you can not take that right away (or make sure that I only do the things within my rights) with software.
Hey, "Relatioship Marketing" equals "Good Juju" for the stockholders.
kwsNI
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Well, first off. You raise a bunch of good points in the post, but I think you're missing the main point in the boycott. We aren't boycotting DVDs, we're boycotting the MPAA. We have nothing against DVDs, it's the people that are making the profit for selling them.
If there is a boycott, it has to be against all aspects of the MPAA. DVDs, VHS, movie theaters, etcetera.
Sorry, I almost think this thread is funny. For the time being, it's about as likely as any other Linux virus.
Right now, there are no Linux viruses and no one has really been able to back up a claim that they have made a virus for Linux. For the time being, I don't really know what they think we should do to "prepare" for the coming wave of viruses (besides removing all modems, NICs, FDDs, TBUs, and CD-ROM drives, punched tape readers and the power cord from my machine). I have to say that until I see one, I'm not going to be too concerned about it.
What a great concept. I can see the conversation now.
Monica: Mr. President, I'd like you to meet my clone. She's exactly like me in every way, only one eigth my size. Frau: Bring in the CLONE! Bill: I shall call her... Dotsucks.
Seriously though, why couldn't you GPL an API? If you write it, you can liscense it however you want. If you want to open source it, I'd say go for it.
My question would be is, are AMD and Intel going for quality now (sorry, is AMD going for quality now?) or is this processor race all about the frequency it runs at...
The competition between Intel and AMD has been good on the one hand in that it has increased processor speed, encouraged new innovation and dropped the price of the processors down. But I'm starting to wonder how many corners AMD and Intel are cutting trying to one up each other. I think they've both gotton so absorbed with processor frequency that they forget the real benchmark of processors: How fast they run applications. There are other, non-x86 processors out there that would blow an Intel/AMD processor out of the water, even running at half the clock speed. So what if I have a bajillion-kagillion megahertz processor when my Palm Pilot runs faster.
I think they need to start making the processors better, not faster. If they improve the quality of the CPU, the speed will come along naturally.
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Hold on a second. The person selling the game starts by saying that it's for backups only and that you must own the game already. Then, 5 sentences later, he's goes into why you should buy it and why if you don't have it, you must add it to your collection. Sorry, I think that shows he doesn't have a clue that putting up a legal disclaimer before breaking the law doesn't work.
kwsNI
OK, that's out of the way (since I know everyone's going to flame it). I really don't see how Microsoft is going to get any more than a slap on the wrist and told not to do it anymore. We could fine them, but how do you financially fine a company that makes 100's of billions a year? We could break it apart, but they would still be owned by the same people and everyone would go on making their profits, just like before. Hell, 3Com/USR/Palm has shown that it can even be a usefull business strategy. So then what? They could force MS to quasi-open source their software but ask Red Hat how terrible that is for business.
Personally, I think that the Justice Department is just wasting time and money really pursuing this.
Flame away... :)
kwsNI
Kind of interesting. I'm a huge supporter of the GPL, but it looks like it could come back and bite these programmers in the ass. Basically, they can "give" Mattel the rights to the program, but anyone who had already downloaded cphack and accepted the GPL owns the rights to their copy of the software and they are free to distribute and modify it how they choose.
Anyone have any ideas how to prevent this from happening again in the future?
kwsNI
Yeah, it's neat that somebody hacked it, but it's like going around boasting that you reprogrammed the PROM in your car to only go 25 miles per hour. (Only useful if you valet park alot or have teenagers that want to borrow it)
kwsNI
I just finished taking a tour of the New Mexico State University's Engineering and Computer Technology facility. The manufacturing and electronics programs got together and built an entire computer controlled manufacturing plant out of Lego bricks and a PLC (Programable Logic Controller).
kwsNI
BTW, check out Moller International. They've been prototyping a similliar type of sky car. I'd be willing to drop a million for one of these.
kwsNI
Acutally, it's Slashdot - not slashdot. :)
kwsNI
I don't see how this argument could have any validity. That's like a corporation asking you to give up a piece of land you own so they can make a mall. Would you say "Well, since I don't have anything on the property, take it. I'm not using it."? No. Coca Cola does not own the rights to the word coke. Why should they bully someone with a coke domain out of it?
kwsNI
If this is anything like the Palm IPO, 3Com's stock will drop a few dollars and they'll raise a fortune selling the USR stock. 3Com profits because they can keep controll of USR and selling it to investors as a different company, they can raise tons of money.
kwsNI
Rank Name Solved Penalty
1 St. Petersburg State University 7 941
2 University of Waterloo 7 1641
3 Albert Einstein University Ulm 6 1003
4 St. Petersburg Institute of Fine Mechanics and Optics 6 1051
5 The University of Melbourne 6 1156
6 Tsinghua University 6 1358
7 Kyoto University 5 1096
8 The Chinese University of Hong Kong 4 712
9 Shanghai JiaoTong University 4 758
10 University of Alberta 4 818
11 Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology 4
11 California Institute of Technology 4
11 Charles University Prague 4
11 ZhongShan University 4
15 Carnegie Mellon University 3
15 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 3
15 Moscow State University 3
15 University of Central Florida 3
15 University of Toronto 3
15 University of Washington 3
15 Virginia Tech 3
22 Bucharest University 2
22 Georgia Institute of Technology 2
22 Harvard University 2
22 Iowa State University 2
22 Novosibirsk State University 2
22 Southern Ural State University 2
22 Stanford University 2
22 Universidad de Buenos Aires 2
22 Universidad Politécnica de Madrid 2
22 University of Pretoria 2
Sorry for the slight loss in formatting.
kwsNI
Remember, 99 out of 100 computer users don't know what half the functions in MS Paint are.
kwsNI
But seriously, I like these "toy shows". Just because this isn't something you can get right now, give it a bit. Chances are, in a few years, you'll be buying either this technology or something that is based off this technology.
Also, there is another good part to this news. It's the technology breakthrough that is cool here. It's a case of "if we can do this in a test environment, how would we better be able to use this technology in a more practical, useful manner". It's like cars. Much of the technology you see standard in our cars today were designed to be used in race cars and aircraft. Basically, if we can make things faster, why can't we keep the speed the same but make them cheaper and more efficient with the same technology.
kwsNI
Yeah, that's a huge task in itself. But what about Gnutella? Forget blocking it. It's not going to be possible. Anyone can set up a server and by it's very nature, it's meant to be uncensorable (AKA unblockable).
kwsNI
Now, beyond that. There are a lot of legitimate MP3's out on the market. Is it right to block those just because there is also pirating going on. I mean, that's like the police trying to shut down your local mall to prevent more shoplifting.
You say: "You don't have a "right" to view mp3s, especially ripped off mp3s". That's only half right. The law doesn't give you the right to view (listen) to ripped off MP3s. I have every right in the world to listen to the interview with some celebrity that CNN just put on there site for download that I want to hear. I have every right to go to MP3.com and download the latest songs from these new artists. I have every right to go to an established artists page and download the MP3 that they are giving away in the months before they release their CD. And you can not take that right away (or make sure that I only do the things within my rights) with software.
kwsNI
Hey, "Relatioship Marketing" equals "Good Juju" for the stockholders.
kwsNI
If there is a boycott, it has to be against all aspects of the MPAA. DVDs, VHS, movie theaters, etcetera.
kwsNI
Yup, you're right. I meant to include that in the 1 GB limit of Screen Savers/Sounds/Desktop themes/AVI's :)
kwsNI
From: kwsNI
Dear Bill,
I wanted to officially challenge you to make and operating system large enough to fill this HDD up. Here are my official rules:
So, if you're up to the challenge, let's fill this bad boy up.
Sincerely,
kwsNI
Sorry, I almost think this thread is funny. For the time being, it's about as likely as any other Linux virus.
Right now, there are no Linux viruses and no one has really been able to back up a claim that they have made a virus for Linux. For the time being, I don't really know what they think we should do to "prepare" for the coming wave of viruses (besides removing all modems, NICs, FDDs, TBUs, and CD-ROM drives, punched tape readers and the power cord from my machine). I have to say that until I see one, I'm not going to be too concerned about it.
kwsNI
Even better, just put his e-mail address as your Slashdot e-mail address. He'll be getting Spam like there was no tomorrow.
kwsNI
Monica: Mr. President, I'd like you to meet my clone. She's exactly like me in every way, only one eigth my size.
Frau: Bring in the CLONE!
Bill: I shall call her... Dotsucks.
kwsNI
Just think about the new names that Ralph Nader proposed. It could have been Dotsucks.
kwsNI
Seriously though, why couldn't you GPL an API? If you write it, you can liscense it however you want. If you want to open source it, I'd say go for it.
kwsNI
You mean that DirectSound is going to have competition? Let's see if Microsoft doesn't try to buy it or sue it.
kwsNI
The competition between Intel and AMD has been good on the one hand in that it has increased processor speed, encouraged new innovation and dropped the price of the processors down. But I'm starting to wonder how many corners AMD and Intel are cutting trying to one up each other. I think they've both gotton so absorbed with processor frequency that they forget the real benchmark of processors: How fast they run applications. There are other, non-x86 processors out there that would blow an Intel/AMD processor out of the water, even running at half the clock speed. So what if I have a bajillion-kagillion megahertz processor when my Palm Pilot runs faster.
I think they need to start making the processors better, not faster. If they improve the quality of the CPU, the speed will come along naturally.
kwsNI