Hey there is another way to explain this: This is why Europeans can be so damm thick skulled at times! Think about it, how many times do Europeans mullheaded stick to things because, well, that's how things are done...
Funny that you mention Ecuador... My sister just happens to live in Ecuador and lives in this BIG HAPPY family... It drives my sister bonkers. The reason is because the mother-in-law and grand-mother keep looking over my sister's shoulder to make sure the children are "reared" properly. My sister found it extremely stressful because she was constantly being monitored. Of course one could say that it was because she was from Europe and North America. The reality is that these "big and happy" families have many other stresses that I think you did not experience.
No I think mixing apples with oranges. The US government is not in the business of selling weapons to the average Joe on the street. I specifically said US company. US companies that make weapons will not sell weapons to the average Joe because that would mean breaking the export laws, and breaking many many laws in general.
One problem. In the article 77% of his sales are to Americans. There is the case in Canada where a guy sells pot seed to Americans. It's not illegal in Canada, but is in America. If this person steps foot in America he is a goner.
Or let's switch the table. America is pretty lax with its gun laws. What if an American company persistently sold high powered weapons to countries that banned weapons. I am guessing there would be quite the outrage in the other counteries. And if a CEO of such a company stepped foot in the other country the CEO would be arrested just the same.
My advice for the CEO would have been, "DON'T travel via the US!" When in Rome do as the Romans even if you think the Romans are bone-heads!;)
I completely agree. The reason why an exploit works is because the original software developers never thought about it. So let's add a layer, and what about the thing that the original software developers never thought about? Will the developers behind the extra layer think about it? I rather doubt it.
Like yourself I think if they had spent more time fixing IE maybe we would not have the problems we do.
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Why is it irresponsible for him to do what he did as a family man? I am sure all of the family members are aware of the circumstances and risks? This is what made Steve tick. I remember one episode where he had to be in New York and it drove him batty.
Is it irresponsible to become an American president and have a family? After all as American president you ARE target number 1 for many many crazies on this planet. Or how about race car drivers? Is it irresponsible for them to race and have a family?
Considering the type of person that Steve is, and the type of person his wife is and combination of the two for the kids I think everybody in the family understands what happened. They might not be happy about it, but they understand. And I am very sure that they knew this might happen.
Ok, so you put these people in registries and that is going to do what? Let's say that one of these registered people lives across the street from you. What are you going to do? Are you going to watch him everyday and every minute? Are you going to sell your house?
No I think what is going to happen, the person on the list will chased out of the neighbor for fear that the price of the properties will go down. And that will solve nothing other than the person moving into a seedy part of town getting ready to plan another crime.
If sex offenders tend to commit the crime over and over again in contrast to murders then does that not tell us sex offenders have deeper issues? And if they have deeper issues is not time that we treat them differently in the justice system? Because let's be frank thus far it would seem that the current justice is not working!
Now about Megan being blue-eyed and blond, do a search on Google "missing black children not reported". The search result is scary and it does prove the bias towards a white blue-eyed blond girl.
Let's say that there is this car I really liked. And well, I want this car?
What are my options?
I can buy the car from a dealer which would I have to put on a pair of pants, but get the car immediately.
Or I can order the car online and have to wait for the car to arrive?
Or I can get the tech specs to an electronic throbber letting me start the choice of my car immediately.
"Now, should I support a corrupt, backwards, outdated industry that is working overtime to make my life a pain in the ass by lobbying for all kinds of crazy laws and filing lawsuits left and right, even if this is less convenient to me?"
EG Ford, Chrysler, and GM lobbied to have a new car marker in the 50's off the market because they offered "gasp" seatbelts and safety.
I hate this attitude "Oh he would not have bought it anyways and therefore its ok to borrow"
Beep NO ITS NOT! Ask a BMW driver if you could take their car for a spin because 1) you don't have the money, 2) don't want to buy it because you prefer Lexus. Most likely the BMW driver would tell you to bugger off.
Imagine if Microsoft took this lax attitude to Open Source. Imagine if Microsoft said, "Hey let's borrow that threading code" and not follow the GPL. I am betting you and your brother would be the first in line to demand Steve Ballmer's head! Yet you think its ok to "borrow" movies.
Movies, Music, Open Source all depend on copyright. If you break copyright for one you break copyright for all. I am a firm supporter of Open Source and a firm believer of copyright.
So next time when you "borrow" a movie or music, you are saying it's ok for Microsoft to borrow pieces of Linux code without following the GPL.
I think you are getting this wrong. The LBO comes in a buys the firm using leveraged money. Typically these firms are like Microsoft that have very good, but conservative books. You could call them cash-cows. Their stocks tend to be undervalued, eg Microsoft.
In comes the the private equity firms and buy the company outright. They usually do this with the investors money and not banks. Usually these are hedge funds that have a huge pocket book with money to burn. So they buy this undervalued company. The first thing they do, like the article says is issue a dividend. The dividend is given to the investors and thus they have a good return. The dividend is added as debt to the company, but because the company is a cash cow it can support the debt without flinching.
The company that is a cash cow has debt, and is issuing dividends. This is interesting for investors because investors like good dividends. Thus the stock price increases, and the original hedge fund begins to sell their original investment making yet another profit for the investor. People would buy the stock for the dividend and the perception that the company is going to grow.
So does that mean that the stock investor that bought in at a higher price has been shafted? No, it depends what the cash cow company does. Cash cow companies do not need to be slow, but can be dynamic and grow. What the hedge funds are doing is forcing that growth. While many hate hedge funds they do force companies to work for the investor.
Here is what many people forget. If people hate hedge funds then those companies should not be on the market in the first place. The stock market has no love and thus anybody who likes the market for the employee options also has to live by the hedge fund rules.
[cynical]I am an engineer and I think I figured out what I could never be a scientist. Too darn pessimisstic. "Use fossil fuels = global warming", "change to non-fossil fuels = water shortage". How about instead of annoying us, come up with solutions! Oh yeah forgot that would require an engineer[/cynical]
I will admit that people like to find silver bullets. BUT, and this is where I get annoyed. It is not just management that preaches silver bullets! How about those that preach Open Source will solve all problems? Or how about Ruby? What about Perl, Java, Linux? And we get annoyed when people don't listen to our "silver bullets."
The problem here is that everybody has their own silver bullets, and if you don't happen agree then you think the other person is a bone head.
I think the reason why people want to know how much money they are making is because they want to know how to price the Apple stock. Right now the PE is about 30, and the question is how much more will this company grow. Personally I think Apple stock is a dud because Apple is nearing its peak.
Apple is a funny company that has highs and lows. Right now they are on a high, but with the introduction of the Intel chip they are sliding down (eg computers cost more, quality problems highlighted in ZDNet, and delays in the latest iPods).
With Steve Jobs antagonizing the stock market it will hurt. It will hurt for a couple of reasons.
1) Stock options: Who would want to work for a company with a dud stock, hint hint Microsoft. 2) Take over of other companies: If you have a sliding stock you have quite a bit less leverage when trying to buy another company. Apple is moving towards a content company and might be interested in taking over content companies.
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No they don't cover it in the SEC filing. They cover what everything costs, and do not do a breakdown.
I am not so sure here. I think if Microsoft or another company wanted to they could ask, "So what do you consider as world's best?" It is a reasonable question to ask since you made the claim. And then Microsoft could post that claim. So for example if the claim is freedom, Microsoft could turn that around with, "Office 2007 freedom to exchange data however, or whereever, and whenever you want." Of course OpenOffice could reply, but only so long as you use Excel. Well, oops, the original ad did not say that. OpenOffice has to respond... Ooops OpenOffice does not have the money...
As good as their intentions are, what many in the Open Source community fail to realize is that people DON'T REALLY care about their freedoms. It's a sad state, but what people care about is being mostly free, with some "restrictions."
And if I may be cynical (context I am German)... Would the founding father's really choose Open Office? After all Open Office is from a bunch of Germans! Microsoft on the other hand is true blue American. From the little I know of the founding fathers their focus was on America, and everything America! I am not critiquing the founding fathers. Just saying if you are going to raise that argument make sure it is a consistent argument!
Wow we are old;) I was thinking of the same thing. What worries me about these types of assertions is that Linux is just as much a mono culture as Windows.
At an OSCON talk, there was this business guy. His assertion was that if Apache were a company then they would be susceptible to monopoly rules like Microsoft should be.
The one million rows is a relief.... Wanna know where people use that many rows? Financial services! Traders, etc like using Excel to do mathematical analysis, and I don't blame them. Excel is easy to automate and to do things over and over again.
Some may say, "Oh but get a programmer". Oh yeah, and wanna see the costs as a result of getting a programmer involved? Traders wanna try out scenarios where the maths constantly change. Excel is perfect!
DRM as how it is implemented today is a bastardization of copyright. I am all for DRM, but I want to be able to change operating systems, and use my content for decades to come. Yet somehow I don't see that happening because each vendor has "figured" out the best DRM. There is fair use, and other copyright concepts that DRM conviently ignores. When France tries a first step towards a universal DRM, what does Apple do? "waaahhhh I am taking my toys away because I don't get my own way!"
I have been using Dell's for several years now, and have to say one of the advantages of a Dell is that Linux runs on it without any hassles. I have not had any issues with respect to Linux. In fact my latest Dell 6000 ran without a single flaw (ATI graphic card included). Because it runs so well (Ubuntu Dapper Drake) I always run Linux.
Let's take cancer. People don't know where cancer comes from and think that some habits are better than others. Yet we all can get cancer, regardless if you excercise, etc. We think that certain habits will increase the liklihood, but we cannot say, "Excercise and you will not get cancer".
Let me give you an example; Lance Armstrong, incredibly healthy and a great athlete, yet he was on the brink of death due to cancer. Or how about Andres Galarraga? Or how about Scott Hamilton? How about Mario Lemieux?
This is why I say healthcare is a societal issue because healthcare saps money and is a money looser! With a spin on the car insurance ananlogy. When a driver has an accident we as a society don't mind charging that driver more or not giving him car insurance. If a person gets cancer can we say, "No you can't get coverage, you are on your own?" This is exactly what private healthcare providers do. I know, my mother survived breast cancer, but the private healthcare providers are refusing to cover her for cancer. If she gets cancer again she is on her own. This is wrong! But it is business because she is a "problematic" person.
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Hey there is another way to explain this: This is why Europeans can be so damm thick skulled at times! Think about it, how many times do Europeans mullheaded stick to things because, well, that's how things are done...
What if they don't need the contest anymore? Last year's winner did amazingly well from what I remember. What if they already have what they want?
I hate these America = bad, and Europe = good arguments. The reality is that Europe and North America have divorces. http://www.divorcereform.org/gul.html. At the link you will find the real trends. But before you say, "But wait in Europe there are less divorces", you have to remember in Europe less people get married http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MaggieGallagher /2006/02/28/europes_marriage_crisis. Thus when they split they don't need a divorce.
Funny that you mention Ecuador... My sister just happens to live in Ecuador and lives in this BIG HAPPY family... It drives my sister bonkers. The reason is because the mother-in-law and grand-mother keep looking over my sister's shoulder to make sure the children are "reared" properly. My sister found it extremely stressful because she was constantly being monitored. Of course one could say that it was because she was from Europe and North America. The reality is that these "big and happy" families have many other stresses that I think you did not experience.
Bingo give the man a cigar! Those were my thoughts to a T
No I think mixing apples with oranges. The US government is not in the business of selling weapons to the average Joe on the street. I specifically said US company. US companies that make weapons will not sell weapons to the average Joe because that would mean breaking the export laws, and breaking many many laws in general.
One problem. In the article 77% of his sales are to Americans. There is the case in Canada where a guy sells pot seed to Americans. It's not illegal in Canada, but is in America. If this person steps foot in America he is a goner.
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Or let's switch the table. America is pretty lax with its gun laws. What if an American company persistently sold high powered weapons to countries that banned weapons. I am guessing there would be quite the outrage in the other counteries. And if a CEO of such a company stepped foot in the other country the CEO would be arrested just the same.
My advice for the CEO would have been, "DON'T travel via the US!" When in Rome do as the Romans even if you think the Romans are bone-heads!
I completely agree. The reason why an exploit works is because the original software developers never thought about it. So let's add a layer, and what about the thing that the original software developers never thought about? Will the developers behind the extra layer think about it? I rather doubt it.
Like yourself I think if they had spent more time fixing IE maybe we would not have the problems we do.
Why is it irresponsible for him to do what he did as a family man? I am sure all of the family members are aware of the circumstances and risks? This is what made Steve tick. I remember one episode where he had to be in New York and it drove him batty.
Is it irresponsible to become an American president and have a family? After all as American president you ARE target number 1 for many many crazies on this planet. Or how about race car drivers? Is it irresponsible for them to race and have a family?
Considering the type of person that Steve is, and the type of person his wife is and combination of the two for the kids I think everybody in the family understands what happened. They might not be happy about it, but they understand. And I am very sure that they knew this might happen.
Ok, so you put these people in registries and that is going to do what? Let's say that one of these registered people lives across the street from you. What are you going to do? Are you going to watch him everyday and every minute? Are you going to sell your house?
No I think what is going to happen, the person on the list will chased out of the neighbor for fear that the price of the properties will go down. And that will solve nothing other than the person moving into a seedy part of town getting ready to plan another crime.
If sex offenders tend to commit the crime over and over again in contrast to murders then does that not tell us sex offenders have deeper issues? And if they have deeper issues is not time that we treat them differently in the justice system? Because let's be frank thus far it would seem that the current justice is not working!
Now about Megan being blue-eyed and blond, do a search on Google "missing black children not reported". The search result is scary and it does prove the bias towards a white blue-eyed blond girl.
Let's say that there is this car I really liked. And well, I want this car?
What are my options?
I can buy the car from a dealer which would I have to put on a pair of pants, but get the car immediately.
Or I can order the car online and have to wait for the car to arrive?
Or I can get the tech specs to an electronic throbber letting me start the choice of my car immediately.
"Now, should I support a corrupt, backwards, outdated industry that is working overtime to make my life a pain in the ass by lobbying for all kinds of crazy laws and filing lawsuits left and right, even if this is less convenient to me?"
EG Ford, Chrysler, and GM lobbied to have a new car marker in the 50's off the market because they offered "gasp" seatbelts and safety.
I hate this attitude "Oh he would not have bought it anyways and therefore its ok to borrow"
Beep NO ITS NOT! Ask a BMW driver if you could take their car for a spin because 1) you don't have the money, 2) don't want to buy it because you prefer Lexus. Most likely the BMW driver would tell you to bugger off.
Imagine if Microsoft took this lax attitude to Open Source. Imagine if Microsoft said, "Hey let's borrow that threading code" and not follow the GPL. I am betting you and your brother would be the first in line to demand Steve Ballmer's head! Yet you think its ok to "borrow" movies.
Movies, Music, Open Source all depend on copyright. If you break copyright for one you break copyright for all. I am a firm supporter of Open Source and a firm believer of copyright.
So next time when you "borrow" a movie or music, you are saying it's ok for Microsoft to borrow pieces of Linux code without following the GPL.
I think you are getting this wrong. The LBO comes in a buys the firm using leveraged money. Typically these firms are like Microsoft that have very good, but conservative books. You could call them cash-cows. Their stocks tend to be undervalued, eg Microsoft.
In comes the the private equity firms and buy the company outright. They usually do this with the investors money and not banks. Usually these are hedge funds that have a huge pocket book with money to burn. So they buy this undervalued company. The first thing they do, like the article says is issue a dividend. The dividend is given to the investors and thus they have a good return. The dividend is added as debt to the company, but because the company is a cash cow it can support the debt without flinching.
The company that is a cash cow has debt, and is issuing dividends. This is interesting for investors because investors like good dividends. Thus the stock price increases, and the original hedge fund begins to sell their original investment making yet another profit for the investor. People would buy the stock for the dividend and the perception that the company is going to grow.
So does that mean that the stock investor that bought in at a higher price has been shafted? No, it depends what the cash cow company does. Cash cow companies do not need to be slow, but can be dynamic and grow. What the hedge funds are doing is forcing that growth. While many hate hedge funds they do force companies to work for the investor.
Here is what many people forget. If people hate hedge funds then those companies should not be on the market in the first place. The stock market has no love and thus anybody who likes the market for the employee options also has to live by the hedge fund rules.
[cynical]I am an engineer and I think I figured out what I could never be a scientist. Too darn pessimisstic. "Use fossil fuels = global warming", "change to non-fossil fuels = water shortage". How about instead of annoying us, come up with solutions! Oh yeah forgot that would require an engineer[/cynical]
Correction... He was talking about Cape Breton, not Nova Scotia.
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I will admit that people like to find silver bullets. BUT, and this is where I get annoyed. It is not just management that preaches silver bullets! How about those that preach Open Source will solve all problems? Or how about Ruby? What about Perl, Java, Linux? And we get annoyed when people don't listen to our "silver bullets."
The problem here is that everybody has their own silver bullets, and if you don't happen agree then you think the other person is a bone head.
So let's stop the blame game shall we.
I agree with you, and your analysis.
I think the reason why people want to know how much money they are making is because they want to know how to price the Apple stock. Right now the PE is about 30, and the question is how much more will this company grow. Personally I think Apple stock is a dud because Apple is nearing its peak.
Apple is a funny company that has highs and lows. Right now they are on a high, but with the introduction of the Intel chip they are sliding down (eg computers cost more, quality problems highlighted in ZDNet, and delays in the latest iPods).
With Steve Jobs antagonizing the stock market it will hurt. It will hurt for a couple of reasons.
1) Stock options: Who would want to work for a company with a dud stock, hint hint Microsoft.
2) Take over of other companies: If you have a sliding stock you have quite a bit less leverage when trying to buy another company. Apple is moving towards a content company and might be interested in taking over content companies.
No they don't cover it in the SEC filing. They cover what everything costs, and do not do a breakdown.
I am not so sure here. I think if Microsoft or another company wanted to they could ask, "So what do you consider as world's best?" It is a reasonable question to ask since you made the claim. And then Microsoft could post that claim. So for example if the claim is freedom, Microsoft could turn that around with, "Office 2007 freedom to exchange data however, or whereever, and whenever you want." Of course OpenOffice could reply, but only so long as you use Excel. Well, oops, the original ad did not say that. OpenOffice has to respond... Ooops OpenOffice does not have the money...
As good as their intentions are, what many in the Open Source community fail to realize is that people DON'T REALLY care about their freedoms. It's a sad state, but what people care about is being mostly free, with some "restrictions."
And if I may be cynical (context I am German)... Would the founding father's really choose Open Office? After all Open Office is from a bunch of Germans! Microsoft on the other hand is true blue American. From the little I know of the founding fathers their focus was on America, and everything America! I am not critiquing the founding fathers. Just saying if you are going to raise that argument make sure it is a consistent argument!
If I may be cynical. How about using a programming language that does not allow a construct like illustrated in the first place?
Wow we are old ;) I was thinking of the same thing. What worries me about these types of assertions is that Linux is just as much a mono culture as Windows.
At an OSCON talk, there was this business guy. His assertion was that if Apache were a company then they would be susceptible to monopoly rules like Microsoft should be.
The one million rows is a relief.... Wanna know where people use that many rows? Financial services! Traders, etc like using Excel to do mathematical analysis, and I don't blame them. Excel is easy to automate and to do things over and over again.
Some may say, "Oh but get a programmer". Oh yeah, and wanna see the costs as a result of getting a programmer involved? Traders wanna try out scenarios where the maths constantly change. Excel is perfect!
That's why you need 1 million records.
DRM as how it is implemented today is a bastardization of copyright. I am all for DRM, but I want to be able to change operating systems, and use my content for decades to come. Yet somehow I don't see that happening because each vendor has "figured" out the best DRM. There is fair use, and other copyright concepts that DRM conviently ignores. When France tries a first step towards a universal DRM, what does Apple do? "waaahhhh I am taking my toys away because I don't get my own way!"
I have been using Dell's for several years now, and have to say one of the advantages of a Dell is that Linux runs on it without any hassles. I have not had any issues with respect to Linux. In fact my latest Dell 6000 ran without a single flaw (ATI graphic card included). Because it runs so well (Ubuntu Dapper Drake) I always run Linux.
No.... I am right here...
Let's take cancer. People don't know where cancer comes from and think that some habits are better than others. Yet we all can get cancer, regardless if you excercise, etc. We think that certain habits will increase the liklihood, but we cannot say, "Excercise and you will not get cancer".
Let me give you an example; Lance Armstrong, incredibly healthy and a great athlete, yet he was on the brink of death due to cancer. Or how about Andres Galarraga? Or how about Scott Hamilton? How about Mario Lemieux?
This is why I say healthcare is a societal issue because healthcare saps money and is a money looser! With a spin on the car insurance ananlogy. When a driver has an accident we as a society don't mind charging that driver more or not giving him car insurance. If a person gets cancer can we say, "No you can't get coverage, you are on your own?" This is exactly what private healthcare providers do. I know, my mother survived breast cancer, but the private healthcare providers are refusing to cover her for cancer. If she gets cancer again she is on her own. This is wrong! But it is business because she is a "problematic" person.