Actually, I bought two copies of Linux Q3, on sale for $10 ea at EB. I was trying to pump at least a little cash into Linux games, plus I can have legit multiplayer on my LAN at home. Then I ended up downloading Windows code and using one Linux game under Windows. (Actually dual-boot, Win and Linux on that machine play by the same CD key.)
More to the point, IP laws in the US are generally becoming more restrictive, as corporate interests codify their wish-list into our legal system.
This will backfire, as it forces innovation out of the US.
Honestly, I expect Europe to follow the US lead. The same corporations that are doing this to the US are also well entrenched in Europe. So in effect, we're pushing innovation to India and China, the new growing world economies.
I have two nForce2 boards at home, the newer running the GB eth from a stock kernel, and the older running the nVidia driver. I'd prefer to run untainted, and it sounds like 2.6.6 will force me that way, at least temporarily. I patched the kernel on the new machine to run the 3com, but then found that the stock kernel already had the GB eth driver, so now I use that. I'm not afraid to patch a kernel, but would just as soon run stock, from a maintenance perspective.
You and others have pointed out 'defects' in my arguments of both reusable and SSTO. I won't argue with any of those.
My whole point was that we armchair space explorers have watched too many Galileo shuttles and X-Wings take off from planetary surfaces and go to Warp, and we have too little understanding of how truly HARD getting into orbit really is. As difficult and maintenance-intensive as it is for the Shuttle to do this, it really DOES do it. (IMHO both shuttle accidents were largely administrative, 'It happened before and didn't kill us,' in nature.) When you count the number of manned vehicle designs that have achieved orbit, I'm not sure, but I don't think you even need to use your toes, too.
I found it in lkml, so I'm not sure if I can really give you a link. You could search for 'Allen Martin' or 'Ross Dickson' in archives. The former is the nVidia employee who finally released the information, and the latter is the guy who'd been doing much of the hacking around the problem lacking official information.
But this doesn't sound like your problem. This problem didn't clutter syslog, it just plain caused the kernel to hang under certain conditions.
Last week someone from nVidia finally stepped up to the plate on lkml and told us all the real problem with the apic hangs. They'd told the BIOS writers long ago, but from what I can tell, only Shuttle had done anything about it. So they finally released the same info to the Linux community.
Hours after the information was released, the first patch followed. A little feedback and tweaking, and it's into the mainline kernel in less than a week. Kudos to Ross Dickson, et al, for all the work they'd done trying to fix this problem, prior to the official informatino release.
Does anyone know if the patch for either forceDeth or the 3com 2nd adapter on some nForce2 boards is in the mainline kernel, yet?
We have two pretty decent places in town, Perry's Fish House and Shanty By the Shore. For about the price of the ferry ride to Plattsburth to go to LJS, I could go to either of these fine establishments. My wife and I went to see Eric Idle last fall when he came to town, and sometime later she was checking his blog, and he raved about Shanty By the Shore.
No. I'm saying that getting to orbit is HARD. There is no easy way. I'm sure that there are ways easier than the Shuttle, and it's easy to arm-chair quarterback the job NASA has done.
But at the end of the day, not many people have access to orbit, and IMHO few of us really appreciate the difficulty of the task.
There is no Long John Silver's in Vermont. For me, the closest one is in Plattsburgh, NY. So I can spend $14.00 on the ferry plus gasoline plus a few hours driving time to get there and get some shrimp. Or I could put the same into a local restaurant and just buy some shrimp.
As much as everyone likes to dis the US shuttle as being expensive, it's the most affordable reusable VTHL SSTO vehicle in the world. Obviously it's also the ONLY such vehicle, but IMHO that's a bad side-effect of Star Trek and Star Wars, where we begin to think the task of getting into orbit is *easy* and any unfettered entrepreneur could do it, and it's obviously NASA's jealousy stopping them through regulatory means.
Ain't so. Getting into orbit is HARD. From a kinetic energy standpoint, it's 25X harder than the X-Prize, which probably will finally get awarded this year. That 25X is over an order of magnitude, and by the time you take compounding difficulties, it's probably more like 2 orders of magnitude harder than the X-Prize.
Transparency in government means you don't have trust the people, because you can trust the process to keep them honest. In an Opaque government it's not enough to trust the Man at the Top, you've got to trust EVERYONE under that Opaque shield.
The latter has something to do with why we're in the current mess.
The same holds for business, considering the opaque bookkeeping behind some recent scandals.
The concepts of Transparency vs Opacity are slightly different terms, but should be familiar to Open Source coders when considering security.
Look like you haven't read the book. When I said 'mindless' I meant 'mindless', and when I said 'hot', I meant 'HOT'. Wouldn't be around mentally to appreciate it, or physically afterward.
One of the things that's bugged me is that AFAIK, CSS and the like have NO provisions whatsoever for copyright expiration. I guess the ??AA can use this as a reason for never having any.
A while back on *bottomquark, there was an article about a guy who built a belly-dancing robot. Robotics work happened to be his day job, and he was fascinated by the motions. Turns out that belly-dancing, and spine movements in general turn out to be variations of the movements of swimming fish. Not surprising when you think about it, because both are spinal undulations. A little odder to think of erect spinal posture a a variation of spinal undulation, but still reasonable, when you add feedback.
Anyhow, nature has shown remarkable versatility in reusing simple fundamentals to do complex things.
This game looks like it has nothing to do with the Robert Charles Wilson book, where Europe disappears and is replaced by a primitive jungle. I had mixed feelings about the book, but I guess it could have been turned into a good shooter.
The thing I think will be different will be the relative sizes and strengths of the US and Chinese economies. No problems now, and China won't pull any overt tricks now, but they're in the catbird's seat as far as growth goes. The US economy is growing, but there are many fundamentals that are soft. I'll agree that China has a few things to watch, too.
If the US isn't careful, we could well acting the part of the Soviet Union in a repetition of the late 1980's. Not a perfect parallel, but there are similarities.
1) For now. They keep flirting with the idea, and people keep protesting. One of these days they'll find a way to sneak it through before it's noticed. 2) Not too far in the future, China will be a big enough market to sell infringing parts to itself. I'm sure they'll be happy to sell obsolete non-infringing stuff for higher prices to the US.
Yeah... I was speaking more of patents than copyrights, but I guess I lumped copyrights in because I was talking about IP, in general.
Interesting to think about the 'relative damage' levels of copyrights vs patents. At least patents expire, but they're harder to evade. IMHO the real evil about copyrights is the societal cruft that has accumulated around them, like DRM and payola.
The net effect of the current patent/copyright frenzy will be quite simple...
Progress will move away from the US and EU, and into India and China.
Both may be signatories to WIPO treaties, but IIUC they're not leading the charge. Both run rampant with piracy, though at the moment that seems to be passed off as an 'enforcement difficulty.' By the time we quit pussy-footing around, I expect both economies to have grown enough, and be busy enough modernizing their own nations that they'll be able to just chuck ^H^H^H^H^H withdraw regrettfully from the IP treaties, or renegotiate them. In any event, THEY'LL have the innovative lead, at that point.
Others have mentioned the IP-restrictive environment of New York being responsible for the rise of Hollywood.
IP laws, they way they're being misused today, circumscribe the pie so IP owners can own bigger chunks of it. Growth in the pie itself will happen elsewhere.
Oh yes, IMHO patents and copyrights were meant to compensate inventors and artists for their creative effort, and keep them in the creative business. For far too many copyrights and patents, the main expense is in filing, and the creative effort was trivial. The competitive roadblock is the reason. IMHO, this is abusive and retards progress in the US.
In 5 years when Quake Reality is introduced, maybe the Doom3 engine will be GPL'ed and someone can add co-op back into the PC version.
By then the X-Prize will have been won, Armadillo will have at least duplicated the feat, and the private space club will be working on X-Prize-2: Orbit.
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Actually, I bought two copies of Linux Q3, on sale for $10 ea at EB. I was trying to pump at least a little cash into Linux games, plus I can have legit multiplayer on my LAN at home. Then I ended up downloading Windows code and using one Linux game under Windows. (Actually dual-boot, Win and Linux on that machine play by the same CD key.)
More to the point, IP laws in the US are generally becoming more restrictive, as corporate interests codify their wish-list into our legal system.
This will backfire, as it forces innovation out of the US.
Honestly, I expect Europe to follow the US lead. The same corporations that are doing this to the US are also well entrenched in Europe. So in effect, we're pushing innovation to India and China, the new growing world economies.
In the mainline kernel, or applied as a patch?
I have two nForce2 boards at home, the newer running the GB eth from a stock kernel, and the older running the nVidia driver. I'd prefer to run untainted, and it sounds like 2.6.6 will force me that way, at least temporarily. I patched the kernel on the new machine to run the 3com, but then found that the stock kernel already had the GB eth driver, so now I use that. I'm not afraid to patch a kernel, but would just as soon run stock, from a maintenance perspective.
You and others have pointed out 'defects' in my arguments of both reusable and SSTO. I won't argue with any of those.
My whole point was that we armchair space explorers have watched too many Galileo shuttles and X-Wings take off from planetary surfaces and go to Warp, and we have too little understanding of how truly HARD getting into orbit really is. As difficult and maintenance-intensive as it is for the Shuttle to do this, it really DOES do it. (IMHO both shuttle accidents were largely administrative, 'It happened before and didn't kill us,' in nature.) When you count the number of manned vehicle designs that have achieved orbit, I'm not sure, but I don't think you even need to use your toes, too.
I found it in lkml, so I'm not sure if I can really give you a link. You could search for 'Allen Martin' or 'Ross Dickson' in archives. The former is the nVidia employee who finally released the information, and the latter is the guy who'd been doing much of the hacking around the problem lacking official information.
But this doesn't sound like your problem. This problem didn't clutter syslog, it just plain caused the kernel to hang under certain conditions.
Last week someone from nVidia finally stepped up to the plate on lkml and told us all the real problem with the apic hangs. They'd told the BIOS writers long ago, but from what I can tell, only Shuttle had done anything about it. So they finally released the same info to the Linux community.
Hours after the information was released, the first patch followed. A little feedback and tweaking, and it's into the mainline kernel in less than a week. Kudos to Ross Dickson, et al, for all the work they'd done trying to fix this problem, prior to the official informatino release.
Does anyone know if the patch for either forceDeth or the 3com 2nd adapter on some nForce2 boards is in the mainline kernel, yet?
We have two pretty decent places in town, Perry's Fish House and Shanty By the Shore. For about the price of the ferry ride to Plattsburth to go to LJS, I could go to either of these fine establishments. My wife and I went to see Eric Idle last fall when he came to town, and sometime later she was checking his blog, and he raved about Shanty By the Shore.
Even less worth going. I thought it was 'all you can eat'.
No. I'm saying that getting to orbit is HARD. There is no easy way. I'm sure that there are ways easier than the Shuttle, and it's easy to arm-chair quarterback the job NASA has done.
But at the end of the day, not many people have access to orbit, and IMHO few of us really appreciate the difficulty of the task.
There is no Long John Silver's in Vermont. For me, the closest one is in Plattsburgh, NY. So I can spend $14.00 on the ferry plus gasoline plus a few hours driving time to get there and get some shrimp. Or I could put the same into a local restaurant and just buy some shrimp.
But they wouldn't be Martian Brine Shrimp.
As much as everyone likes to dis the US shuttle as being expensive, it's the most affordable reusable VTHL SSTO vehicle in the world. Obviously it's also the ONLY such vehicle, but IMHO that's a bad side-effect of Star Trek and Star Wars, where we begin to think the task of getting into orbit is *easy* and any unfettered entrepreneur could do it, and it's obviously NASA's jealousy stopping them through regulatory means.
Ain't so. Getting into orbit is HARD. From a kinetic energy standpoint, it's 25X harder than the X-Prize, which probably will finally get awarded this year. That 25X is over an order of magnitude, and by the time you take compounding difficulties, it's probably more like 2 orders of magnitude harder than the X-Prize.
After all, this IS rocket science.
Transparency in government means you don't have trust the people, because you can trust the process to keep them honest. In an Opaque government it's not enough to trust the Man at the Top, you've got to trust EVERYONE under that Opaque shield.
The latter has something to do with why we're in the current mess.
The same holds for business, considering the opaque bookkeeping behind some recent scandals.
The concepts of Transparency vs Opacity are slightly different terms, but should be familiar to Open Source coders when considering security.
Look like you haven't read the book. When I said 'mindless' I meant 'mindless', and when I said 'hot', I meant 'HOT'. Wouldn't be around mentally to appreciate it, or physically afterward.
The execs are afraid that they'll be lured mindlessly away into secret underwater tunnels and communicate through hot sex.
The CD or the copyright?
One of the things that's bugged me is that AFAIK, CSS and the like have NO provisions whatsoever for copyright expiration. I guess the ??AA can use this as a reason for never having any.
Tivo.
I don't have one, but I've heard that it will "suggest" new programs for you and record them, based on your past taste.
Do you find this "helpful" or "annoying"?
If it were to erase something I wasn't done with yet in order to record a suggested program, I'd be annoyed. I don't know if Tivo does this, though.
A while back on *bottomquark, there was an article about a guy who built a belly-dancing robot. Robotics work happened to be his day job, and he was fascinated by the motions. Turns out that belly-dancing, and spine movements in general turn out to be variations of the movements of swimming fish. Not surprising when you think about it, because both are spinal undulations. A little odder to think of erect spinal posture a a variation of spinal undulation, but still reasonable, when you add feedback.
Anyhow, nature has shown remarkable versatility in reusing simple fundamentals to do complex things.
Your robot may not be as difficult as you think.
I was thinking more of shooting at the animals trying to eat you, and add some more human enemies.
Like the DDOS attack otherwise known as the /. effect?
This game looks like it has nothing to do with the Robert Charles Wilson book, where Europe disappears and is replaced by a primitive jungle. I had mixed feelings about the book, but I guess it could have been turned into a good shooter.
The thing I think will be different will be the relative sizes and strengths of the US and Chinese economies. No problems now, and China won't pull any overt tricks now, but they're in the catbird's seat as far as growth goes. The US economy is growing, but there are many fundamentals that are soft. I'll agree that China has a few things to watch, too.
If the US isn't careful, we could well acting the part of the Soviet Union in a repetition of the late 1980's. Not a perfect parallel, but there are similarities.
1) For now. They keep flirting with the idea, and people keep protesting. One of these days they'll find a way to sneak it through before it's noticed.
2) Not too far in the future, China will be a big enough market to sell infringing parts to itself. I'm sure they'll be happy to sell obsolete non-infringing stuff for higher prices to the US.
Yeah... I was speaking more of patents than copyrights, but I guess I lumped copyrights in because I was talking about IP, in general.
Interesting to think about the 'relative damage' levels of copyrights vs patents. At least patents expire, but they're harder to evade. IMHO the real evil about copyrights is the societal cruft that has accumulated around them, like DRM and payola.
The net effect of the current patent/copyright frenzy will be quite simple...
Progress will move away from the US and EU, and into India and China.
Both may be signatories to WIPO treaties, but IIUC they're not leading the charge. Both run rampant with piracy, though at the moment that seems to be passed off as an 'enforcement difficulty.' By the time we quit pussy-footing around, I expect both economies to have grown enough, and be busy enough modernizing their own nations that they'll be able to just chuck ^H^H^H^H^H withdraw regrettfully from the IP treaties, or renegotiate them. In any event, THEY'LL have the innovative lead, at that point.
Others have mentioned the IP-restrictive environment of New York being responsible for the rise of Hollywood.
IP laws, they way they're being misused today, circumscribe the pie so IP owners can own bigger chunks of it. Growth in the pie itself will happen elsewhere.
Oh yes, IMHO patents and copyrights were meant to compensate inventors and artists for their creative effort, and keep them in the creative business. For far too many copyrights and patents, the main expense is in filing, and the creative effort was trivial. The competitive roadblock is the reason. IMHO, this is abusive and retards progress in the US.
In 5 years when Quake Reality is introduced, maybe the Doom3 engine will be GPL'ed and someone can add co-op back into the PC version.
By then the X-Prize will have been won, Armadillo will have at least duplicated the feat, and the private space club will be working on X-Prize-2: Orbit.