Er, that wasnt our experience, people got fucked up all the time at my school, but it was worth it.
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This nambification has been going on for ages. When I was at school everyone used to play British Bulldogs [on tarmac], but that was banned (and this was decades ago) since it caused too many injuries [about one broken nose or equivalent per day]. Bloody fun game though - a bit like rugby, but not nearly as safe http://web.ukonline.co.uk/conker/games/sept.htm#bu lldog
I used to use 2 monitors all the time, I greatly preferred it to a single large montior for exactly that reason.. also I often need to use a virtual desktop to configure a server or the like where anything other than maximised is a massive pain to work with. However, I've recently switched to a triple monitor setup, and its far superior to dual monitor. There is a large psychological benefit to having a single central screen for whatever it is you are meant to be concentrating on and then having documentation/emails/IM/remote desktops or low priority tasks switched to the sides.
I agree the people complaining about America/USA are pedantic dickwads, but, just to be a pedantic dickwad:
> No one gets mad when you refer to people from that big island in the South Pacific as 'Australians', despite the fact that people from New Guinea also live on the continent of Australia.
> I don't agree that there are not ways to address this without imposing a huge tax on the > developed world while giving developing countries the freedom to burn with abandon.
Suppose that global warming was made worse by fossil carbon emmissions and that this was causing significant danger to the habitability of the planet could be reasonably demonstrated to you.
Would you still argue that there was no point doing anything about it until developing countries could be made to change their ways ?
Developing nations object to taking lead on dropping emissions because per capita carbon emissions are about 10x higher in US than in developing world. Its not the end of the argument, but it seems like a valid point to me.
Real men just input the entire program at the command line using cat>myprog.c Of course, "real men" score higher on machismo than common sense. C'mon.. there is nothing that really needs saying on this topic, let the flame wars begin.
Some things are easy to parallelise, a lot of things arent. Processing an image.. fine.. give each processor a chunk.. but wait.. you get edge artifacts since each pixel needs neighbour pixel information.. that has to be shared.. at what point does it take *longer* using multithreads.. doing a large matrix inversion that takes hours.. ok, parallelise it.. but wait.. standard algorithms that you can see in numerical recipes in C assume single thread.. u need a completely new algorithm, and u need a completely new mechanism for stabilisation bla bla bla.. and this is before u even get into resource contention etc etc.. These are not compiler issues, they are design issues, some of which are at least as hard to solve as writing the entire single thread program. Until computers are smarter than humans, they are not going to get solved automatically.
I grew up programming transputer clusters cos I figured Moore's law wqould have to slow down sometime and then we would have to move to multiprocessor systems. Efficiently using more than a couple of cores is *not* easy.. and it opens up a whole realm of interesting algorithmic work where basic problems with established solutions suddenly become open again.
I hope your not one of those of people [vast majority afaict] who have very different standards of evidence between a claim and the debunking of a claim.
Someone makes a claim and no matter what evidence they provide, the hearing from someone else that that person had heard it was "debunked" is enough for them to discard it.
I am familiar [and sympathetic to] the viewpoint that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but this phenomena is different. Just the use of the word "debunk" seems to short circuit many people's critical facilities.
Most people vote against someone rather than for someone. Anyone but Clinton, anyone but Bush... so, people vote for whoever is most likely to unseat the person they hate the most.
Dickhead. Put words in people's mouths and then label it anti-semtism. Maybe he forgot Israel was in middle east, last I checked ignorance and anti-semitism were not the same thing. And there are other reasons for not counting Israel as a proper democracy [eg that voting rights are partially based on race].
A very good start would be to read "toxic sludge is good for you" or "trust us, we're experts". These explain exactly how PR firms create the confusion you are experiencing. Smoking, asbestos, leaded fuel, etc etc.. even with very clear cut evidence that the science points one way, people who stand to lose money can muddy the waters successfully for decades.
A really beautiful trick the PR firms managed to pull on this one is to paint independent scientists as being part of some grant conspiracy, ie to make people think there is some vast amount of revenue to be gained by inventing global warming. So, who has more to spend: big oil, car companies and industry combined, or... institutions that are more likely to grant money to sensationalist, warped science supporting the global warming case because, um, I'm not quite sure what their motives would be, but somehow there is supposed to be a lot of money to made there.
Sorry, but without more details it would seem to me that your "expert" C++ guy wasn't an expert. Can you describe the problem a little better.. if what you say is true, I as a long term C++ programmer would consider switching, but I've looked at python, and I simply don't believe you.
I'll grant that C++ is a nightmare for beginners with more pitfalls than an indiana jones movie, but once you know them, writing poorly performing code is unlikely.
> What a spineless concept. Requires no risk on those objecting.
Go fuck yourself. What great risks did you take by posting your nonsense on/.
Since when did people have an obligation to put themselves at risk to object to something ?
Amazing how many fundamental mistakes you can cram in such a short post: 2. There are plenty of activists complaining about US trade with China 3. Governments *do* pay people to shut up if they complain in a particular way > Either stop all trade with countries whose labor practices don't agree with your local or shut the fuck up. 4. False choice, you're telling people: either do something impossible or do nothing > try to apply your laws to someone else's country before dealing with them 5. Nothing to do with the situation
Actually, I happen to agree that there is nothing particuarly wrong with employing people in china to build stuff cheaply, but since it puts me on the same side as you I should maybe rethink that.
This is offtopic, but while there are keyboard enthusiasts out there, if I have a USB and a PS2 keyboard hooked up simultaneously, does anyone know how to find out which was the last one to produce an event either in windows or in Linux ?
I'm writing a moderately complicated application where it would make large productivity improvements if the user could use two keyboards simultaneously. One keyboard would be marked up with the functions assigned to each button.
So.. if there is a way of doing this, I would then modify the gui library [FLTK, but that's irrelevent] to distinguish the events - eg if someone clicked 'R' on the 2nd [3rd ??] keyboard then this could trigger a different action in the application than what happens if he clicks 'R' on the primary keyboard.
This would be a big performance win for many applications and far cheaper than buying specialised input devices.
Actually, the "immigrants" come from everywhere.. smart nerds from the rest of the US, asia, russia, western europe, anywhere really, move to SV. That's what keeps SV on top, well, that, and several billion dollars of tech targeted VC money concentrated in SV.
What would make them chose an alternative... housing costs, congestion, lack of women, smog.. whatever, it doesnt matter for people who need to be where the action is.. nowhere is better than SV for tech concentration... so CHOOSE NOWHERE.. its far easier now for people to live whereever they are and collaborate virtually.
The one major disadvantage between doing things this way than living in SV is one doesnt run into so many engineers in day to day life. Personally, I consider this a great plus.. I am an engineer, I have to work with them, but I like not having to socialise with them or, um, smell them.
Open source may well be the future, but it isnt the present.
> as society enters the information age bla bla bla
The trouble with the services/support model is there is a built in conflict.. if software is free and support/service costs money, the more intuitive and less buggy the software is, the less money there is to be made from it.
In the long term society will be better off without the concept of IP at all, but we're in a transition period. Selling software for money is not going away any time soon and you getting all huffy and superior everytime someone commits the crime of not paying homage to opensource is not going to change that any faster.
Copyright and patents are different dude, Metallica's songs are not patented afaik. I get what you're saying, but your crticism is almost as misguided as the original.
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We played that game too and it was amazing fun.
> No-one was ever really injured
Er, that wasnt our experience, people got fucked up all the time
at my school, but it was worth it.
This nambification has been going on for ages. When I was at schoolu lldog
everyone used to play British Bulldogs [on tarmac], but that was banned
(and this was decades ago) since it caused too many injuries
[about one broken nose or equivalent per day].
Bloody fun game though - a bit like rugby, but not nearly as
safe http://web.ukonline.co.uk/conker/games/sept.htm#b
I used to use 2 monitors all the time, I greatly preferred it to
a single large montior for exactly that reason.. also I often
need to use a virtual desktop to configure a server or the like
where anything other than maximised is a massive pain to work with.
However, I've recently switched to a triple monitor setup, and its
far superior to dual monitor. There is a large psychological benefit
to having a single central screen for whatever it is you are meant
to be concentrating on and then having documentation/emails/IM/remote desktops
or low priority tasks switched to the sides.
I agree the people complaining about America/USA are pedantic dickwads, but, just to be a pedantic dickwad:
> No one gets mad when you refer to people from that big island in the South Pacific as 'Australians', despite the fact that people from New Guinea also live on the continent of Australia.
No, they live on the continent of Australasia
> I don't agree that there are not ways to address this without imposing a huge tax on the
> developed world while giving developing countries the freedom to burn with abandon.
Suppose that global warming was made worse by fossil carbon emmissions
and that this was causing significant danger to the habitability of the
planet could be reasonably demonstrated to you.
Would you still argue that there was no point doing anything about it
until developing countries could be made to change their ways ?
Developing nations object to taking lead on dropping emissions
because per capita carbon emissions are about 10x higher in US than
in developing world. Its not the end of the argument, but it
seems like a valid point to me.
Real men just input the entire program at the command line using cat>myprog.c
Of course, "real men" score higher on machismo than common sense.
C'mon.. there is nothing that really needs saying on this topic, let the flame
wars begin.
Are you being deliberately stupid or what ?
Some things are easy to parallelise, a lot of things arent. Processing an image.. fine.. give each processor a chunk.. but wait.. you get edge artifacts since each pixel needs neighbour pixel information.. that has to be shared.. at what point does it take *longer* using multithreads.. doing a large matrix inversion that takes hours.. ok, parallelise it.. but wait.. standard algorithms that you can see in numerical recipes in C assume single thread.. u need a completely new algorithm, and u need a completely new mechanism for stabilisation bla bla bla.. and this is before u even get into resource contention etc etc.. These are not compiler issues, they are design issues, some of which are at least as hard to solve as writing the entire single thread program. Until computers are smarter than humans, they are not going to get solved automatically.
I grew up programming transputer clusters cos I figured Moore's law wqould have to slow down sometime and then we would have to move to multiprocessor systems. Efficiently using more than a couple of cores is *not* easy.. and it opens up a whole realm of interesting algorithmic work where basic problems with established solutions suddenly become open again.
Its about fucking time...
Er, on most high end system the dvd player connects to the amp via fibre optic surely.. whats the point in doing high quality audio work in the dvd ?
If I had mod points right now, you would have them.
Each to their own. Personally I prefer http://www.fltk.org/
Given the slightly less than rigorous calculations going into your estimate
the +/- 50 billion seems a little on the low side.
> Anybody debunked it yet?
I hope your not one of those of people [vast majority afaict] who
have very different standards of evidence between a claim and
the debunking of a claim.
Someone makes a claim and no matter what evidence they provide,
the hearing from someone else that that person had heard it was
"debunked" is enough for them to discard it.
I am familiar [and sympathetic to] the viewpoint that extraordinary
claims require extraordinary evidence, but this phenomena is different.
Just the use of the word "debunk" seems to short circuit many people's
critical facilities.
w2003 is a great desktop OS.. after some tweaks. Much more stable than 2000 and much faster than XP. Expensive though...
Its just a shame it doesnt run battlefield 1942, but apart from that, it rocks.
Most people vote against someone rather than for someone.
Anyone but Clinton, anyone but Bush... so, people vote for whoever
is most likely to unseat the person they hate the most.
> Take your anti-semitism elsewhere
Dickhead. Put words in people's mouths and then label it
anti-semtism. Maybe he forgot Israel was in middle east,
last I checked ignorance and anti-semitism were not the
same thing. And there are other reasons for not counting
Israel as a proper democracy [eg that voting rights are partially
based on race].
> Wake me up when it's over and we have a winner.
... institutions that are more likely to grant money to sensationalist, warped science supporting the global warming case because, um,
WAKE THE FUCK UP THEN
A very good start would be to read "toxic sludge is good for you" or "trust us, we're experts". These explain exactly how PR firms create the confusion you are experiencing.
Smoking, asbestos, leaded fuel, etc etc.. even with very clear cut evidence
that the science points one way, people who stand to lose money can muddy the
waters successfully for decades.
A really beautiful trick the PR firms managed to pull on this one is to
paint independent scientists as being part of some grant conspiracy,
ie to make people think there is some vast amount of revenue to be gained
by inventing global warming. So, who has more to spend: big oil, car companies and
industry combined, or
I'm not quite sure what their motives would be, but somehow there is supposed
to be a lot of money to made there.
Before boost::regex was stable, ie 3 or 4 years ago, I would have agreed with you.
Sorry, but without more details it would seem to me that
your "expert" C++ guy wasn't an expert. Can you describe the
problem a little better.. if what you say is true, I as
a long term C++ programmer would consider switching, but
I've looked at python, and I simply don't believe you.
I'll grant that C++ is a nightmare for beginners with more pitfalls
than an indiana jones movie, but once you know them, writing
poorly performing code is unlikely.
> What a spineless concept. Requires no risk on those objecting.
/.
Go fuck yourself. What great risks did you take by posting your nonsense on
Since when did people have an obligation to put themselves at risk
to object to something ?
Amazing how many fundamental mistakes you can cram in such a short post:
2. There are plenty of activists complaining about US trade with China
3. Governments *do* pay people to shut up if they complain in a particular way
> Either stop all trade with countries whose labor practices don't agree with your local or shut the fuck up.
4. False choice, you're telling people: either do something impossible or do nothing
> try to apply your laws to someone else's country before dealing with them
5. Nothing to do with the situation
Actually, I happen to agree that there is nothing particuarly
wrong with employing people in china to build stuff cheaply, but
since it puts me on the same side as you I should maybe rethink that.
Sure, cos all civ companies are the same...
This is offtopic, but while there are keyboard enthusiasts
out there, if I have a USB and a PS2 keyboard hooked up simultaneously,
does anyone know how to find out which was the last one to produce an event
either in windows or in Linux ?
I'm writing a moderately complicated application where it would make large productivity improvements if the user could use two keyboards simultaneously. One keyboard would be marked up with the functions assigned to each button.
So.. if there is a way of doing this, I would then modify the gui library [FLTK, but that's irrelevent] to distinguish the events - eg if someone clicked 'R' on the 2nd [3rd ??] keyboard then this could trigger a different action in the application than what happens if he clicks 'R' on the primary keyboard.
This would be a big performance win for many applications and far cheaper
than buying specialised input devices.
Anybody know how to do this ?
Actually, the "immigrants" come from everywhere.. smart nerds from the rest of the US, asia, russia, western europe, anywhere really, move
.. its far easier now for people
to SV. That's what keeps SV on top, well, that, and several billion dollars of tech targeted VC money concentrated in SV.
What would make them chose an alternative... housing costs, congestion,
lack of women, smog.. whatever, it doesnt matter for people who need
to be where the action is.. nowhere is better than SV for tech concentration... so CHOOSE NOWHERE
to live whereever they are and collaborate virtually.
The one major disadvantage between doing things this way than living
in SV is one doesnt run into so many engineers in day to day life.
Personally, I consider this a great plus.. I am an engineer, I have
to work with them, but I like not having to socialise with them or,
um, smell them.
Quintessential /. patronising tripe.
Open source may well be the future, but it isnt the present.
> as society enters the information age
bla bla bla
The trouble with the services/support model is there is a built in conflict.. if software is free and support/service costs money, the more intuitive and less buggy the software is, the less money there is to be made from it.
In the long term society will be better off without the concept of IP at all, but we're in a transition period. Selling software for money is not going away any time soon and you getting all huffy and superior everytime someone commits the crime of not paying homage to opensource is not going to change that any faster.
Perhaps its just denial...
Copyright and patents are different dude, Metallica's songs are not patented afaik. I get what you're saying, but your crticism is almost as misguided as the original.