This is from the top of my head, and as such, may have some errors, especially dates.
Now that that disclaimer is done with... there are more reasons to think of One as prime that there are to not, and the primary reason to think of it as a non-prime, non-composite integer is one more of practical value than mathematical correctness.
You see, the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra says, briefly, that every number can be reduced to a unique, finite, multiplicative set of prime numbers.
Now, if one were prime, we would run into the terrible, horrible problem of this being false. And all mathematics would slowly fall with it. Because if one were prime, one would be equal to: 1 x 1 1 x 1 x 1 1 x 1 x 1 x 1... et all.
However, before the 1800's or so, one was in fact considered to be a prime number -- as math was not then a practical discipline. At all. And it was considered prime because, from a theoretical standpoint, it is, as it only has the factors of itself and one. Nowhere did it then say that those must be unique factors.
anyway, just thought I'd shed some light, given the posts on top of posts that are a bit off on what it is to be prime.
So, my dad has been acting as an anti-yucca mountain activist, meaning i got all the dope.
Here's what I've learned:
It would cost a THIRD the cost of the yucca mountain plan to build bunkers on site in which to put the stuff. This keeps it within highly controlled centers. With guns to protect the stuff.
They will be shipping for thirty years, all across America. I live 2 miles away from a highway it'll be passing down. You can find out how close you will be at: www.mapscience.com
Apparently this stuff is so radioactive that exposure for two minutes is a lethal dose.
It will be shipped all across the country, even across states that have no nuclear power, in trucks that would be utterly demolished by a rocket propelled grenade. Which would spread heavy metals across a several-mile area.
In case anyone doesn't know what heavy metal do to the body... they kill. Inhalation of a hundeth of a gram is good to get cystic fibrosis. Much more than that and you die. Rather painfully and quickly.
I'm from Oklahoma. Five years ago the Murrah Building was bombed. After September, how can anyone actually support the idea of transporting deadly radioactive waste all across America for the next thirty years?
Oh, and the best part -- when its all over, the amount of waste at each current dump site would have been reduced by about 10%.
Pardon any grammatical or spelling mistakes, I am not used to being awake so early.
A brown dwarf, especially one that much larger than jupiter is not a planet, but is a star.
So this isn't a planet orbiting a star, but would better be described as two starts orbiting each other, much like Alpha Centauri proxima (the dwarf one)
Nice... now my only excuse is that i have no money...
I wonder if I'll always use that excuse.
Oh well, music will be free. We'll pay for concerts and the like, things that exist as more than digits. something that can't be sent around time and time agian. Something that cannot be shared without a loss on one side.
Does that imply that programs will be free? Yep.
How about movies? Yep. We may pay to see it in the theatres, but the money from renting will be highly dimished. That's no good when one considers that Kevin Smith is big because of the money he made from rentals.
All digital media is going to be free, as in beer. It will happen. And the government will try to stop it. But there are more of us than them...
And if they attempt to stop us, we, the people, reserve the right to stop playing the game.
(which is what MP3.com should do, but that's a different rant)
I forsee a world in which everything digital is free. I'm not nessecarily saying this is better, but it is where the trend will lead us. They cannot stop us all, and the laws they declare have no place here. We are free of them, as they cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Pandora's Box has been opened, we and they must learn to live with it.
He's correct as far as he goes. Namely, that information cannot want anything.
However, what is missing is that 90%+ of all musicians are in contracts that do not allow them to leave to create music for other companies, or even to own the music they create. Take that and add in the profit-gluttony (illegal anti-trust stuff too) of the RIAA, and we have a problem that is not correctable through legal means.
So, we as a sub-society have taken to an extra-legal means of sharing with the purpose of destroying the RIAA. While most people don't recognize that as the purpose, it is clearly the intent when hundreds of songs are shared and never payed for.
If there was a means of "tipping" the artist directly for music, i can see napster falling to the wayside.
Was your CD-player made by sony?
Or someone else who is also a member of the RIAA?
Face it... its all one mega-corp except for the internet startups that are being squashed.
At this point, it is time for the internet community, or at least those who are being persecuted, to refuse to play the game anymore.
The courts have largely depended upon citizens and companies willing cooperation. Granted, with a court order, the assets of a corporation can be seized, but what if said company has no assets within the United States? Then the government would be reduced to seizing the property of a "person" that does not exist within its boundries. While this can certanly be done, even these United States would not sit for it for very long.
That which exists in only a cyber media does not and cannot fall within the jurisdiction of a land-based government.
surely, you would say that it is these courts that own the bat and ball and make up the rules... but it is our backyard, and we are the players. Without our willing cooperation, they are powerless. They rule with the consent of the governed, or in the very least without the governed being actively agianst them.
They may stop MP3.com, though the judge has issued a ruling which violates both the principles of copyright, and the meaning of fair use.
From here, we know what is coming. And we have two options. We can either sit idly by and watch events unravel to determine the course of our very lives, or we can refuse to play the game. By refusing, we need merely not admit to the existence of laws which we feel immoral, perhaps even ignore the existence of the US government itself.
Too bad I am posting this after several hours discussion, i doubt that anyone, even the moderators, will read this post.
If is they come out with a new one every year. And even then, it'd have to run all the old games. If they did that, then in a few years they might become a dominating force... otherwise... well, who wants to use a 3 year old nVidia card?
Instead of Baby-bills, a type of solution that didn't work with the baby bells, why not simply make the code open source, but keeping a central distro?
Microsoft could charge for the distro, like the linux companies do now. However, anyone could send in code updates or suggestions. MS could then review the code, ideas, whatever, that are coming in, with some sort of philosophy guiding the code.
This would allow for a good operating system, software, et all, and realistically stop Microsoft from "harming consumers" while keeping a uniform operating system -- which is good for professional programmers. (who wants to recompile/write software for every flavor of unix?)
Third party programs, such as games, could remain propreitory, but Microsoft would not be making these. MS could be limited to the creation of programs that fall under this new liscence, which would only be for essential programs, such as Word and a browser.
Is anybody else just all about cheap space travel? Unfortunately, i don't think things are much cheaper now than in '69, or am i mistaken? Oh sure, NASA is underfunded, but government isn't the best agency for creating new technology anyway, is it?
Why not privatize space travel, I'm sure that old age homes and honeymoon places will pop up almost overnight.
Just because a University receives some government money doesn't mean that every part of it belongs to the people, and it definetly doesn't mean that the instritution cannot say what their network can and cannot be used for.
Your statement is parralel(sp) to saying "The pentagon receives federal money, so i should be able to look through top secret files, because they belong to the people." The latter statement is obviously false, so how could the previous be true?
This'll propably get moderated down, but oh well, i had to say it.
It seems to me that this is by no means "unconstitutional"... as the University provides the internet service, and can therefore say what it can be used for. This doesn't mean that its a good thing, but the Universitiy's definetly make more money, what with the agreements they have with large communication companies. As for the predominance of Coke-a-cola products on a lot of campuses, i know that here, at the unversity of oklahoma, coke has an exclusive liscence for drinks, which means even fruit juices are cokacola products.
I'd have to recommend anything by Heinlein, with exception of Number of the Beast and things of that time period, basicly nothing writtin in the 80s. Stranger in a Strange Land is a great messiah story, but that gets into a religious argument that can be as silly as ways of indentation. The Ender's Game Quartet, by Orson Scott Card, (now 5 actually) is petty good, although the third and fourth books arn't wonderful.
Whats the current law on MP3s? From what i understand (perhaps completely wrong), the artist can say whether or not (s)he wants MP3s made of the song... but if an MP3 is illegally made, i was under the impression that the file itself was legal for transfer. That is, that it is the act not the storing of MP3s that can be illegal. Anybody know for sure?
The only way this could work is if transmeta created the JVM for the crusco, then I think it woudl work at the same level as the x86 instruction set, just coverting java straight to VLIM instead of whatever was running on the x86 system. It's a decent idea, but Sun woudn't be able to right the JVM, as they don't have access to the instruction set, like the rest of us.
Slashdot Mirror
Its not that it'll be canceled, it'll just be slashdotted.
Either that, we won't get to it.
This is from the top of my head, and as such, may have some errors, especially dates.
... there are more reasons to think of One as prime that there are to not, and the primary reason to think of it as a non-prime, non-composite integer is one more of practical value than mathematical correctness.
...
Now that that disclaimer is done with
You see, the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra says, briefly, that every number can be reduced to a unique, finite, multiplicative set of prime numbers.
Now, if one were prime, we would run into the terrible, horrible problem of this being false. And all mathematics would slowly fall with it. Because if one were prime, one would be equal to:
1 x 1
1 x 1 x 1
1 x 1 x 1 x 1
et all.
However, before the 1800's or so, one was in fact considered to be a prime number -- as math was not then a practical discipline. At all. And it was considered prime because, from a theoretical standpoint, it is, as it only has the factors of itself and one. Nowhere did it then say that those must be unique factors.
anyway, just thought I'd shed some light, given the posts on top of posts that are a bit off on what it is to be prime.
So, my dad has been acting as an anti-yucca mountain activist, meaning i got all the dope.
Here's what I've learned:
It would cost a THIRD the cost of the yucca mountain plan to build bunkers on site in which to put the stuff. This keeps it within highly controlled centers. With guns to protect the stuff.
They will be shipping for thirty years, all across America. I live 2 miles away from a highway it'll be passing down. You can find out how close you will be at:
www.mapscience.com
Apparently this stuff is so radioactive that exposure for two minutes is a lethal dose.
It will be shipped all across the country, even across states that have no nuclear power, in trucks that would be utterly demolished by a rocket propelled grenade. Which would spread heavy metals across a several-mile area.
In case anyone doesn't know what heavy metal do to the body... they kill. Inhalation of a hundeth of a gram is good to get cystic fibrosis. Much more than that and you die. Rather painfully and quickly.
I'm from Oklahoma. Five years ago the Murrah Building was bombed. After September, how can anyone actually support the idea of transporting deadly radioactive waste all across America for the next thirty years?
Oh, and the best part -- when its all over, the amount of waste at each current dump site would have been reduced by about 10%.
Pardon any grammatical or spelling mistakes, I am not used to being awake so early.
Chris Nichols
No Really, our boards are 100% AGP 2.0 compliant.
A brown dwarf, especially one that much larger than jupiter is not a planet, but is a star.
So this isn't a planet orbiting a star, but would better be described as two starts orbiting each other, much like Alpha Centauri proxima (the dwarf one)
First usage: Isacc Asimof, circa 1945.
Usage: Obituquos.
Tesla did in fact claim responsibility for the Tungaska blast, and it was something of an accident.
Here's a website that's part of a biography, you can find it from any search engine:
http://www.parascope.com/en/0996/tesla4.htm
As for where Tesla got the power to do such a thing, he was an Awakened Order of Hermes mage, he can do anything so long as paradox doesn't catch him.
Gotta send them home -- that way they cannot rise to the highest paying positions which our protectionism wants to reserve for americans.
Nice ... now my only excuse is that i have no money...
I wonder if I'll always use that excuse.
Oh well, music will be free. We'll pay for concerts and the like, things that exist as more than digits. something that can't be sent around time and time agian. Something that cannot be shared without a loss on one side.
Does that imply that programs will be free? Yep.
How about movies? Yep. We may pay to see it in the theatres, but the money from renting will be highly dimished. That's no good when one considers that Kevin Smith is big because of the money he made from rentals.
All digital media is going to be free, as in beer. It will happen. And the government will try to stop it. But there are more of us than them...
And if they attempt to stop us, we, the people, reserve the right to stop playing the game.
(which is what MP3.com should do, but that's a different rant)
I forsee a world in which everything digital is free. I'm not nessecarily saying this is better, but it is where the trend will lead us. They cannot stop us all, and the laws they declare have no place here. We are free of them, as they cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Pandora's Box has been opened, we and they must learn to live with it.
He's correct as far as he goes. Namely, that information cannot want anything.
However, what is missing is that 90%+ of all musicians are in contracts that do not allow them to leave to create music for other companies, or even to own the music they create. Take that and add in the profit-gluttony (illegal anti-trust stuff too) of the RIAA, and we have a problem that is not correctable through legal means.
So, we as a sub-society have taken to an extra-legal means of sharing with the purpose of destroying the RIAA. While most people don't recognize that as the purpose, it is clearly the intent when hundreds of songs are shared and never payed for.
If there was a means of "tipping" the artist directly for music, i can see napster falling to the wayside.
Was your CD-player made by sony? Or someone else who is also a member of the RIAA? Face it ... its all one mega-corp except for the internet startups that are being squashed.
At this point, it is time for the internet community, or at least those who are being persecuted, to refuse to play the game anymore.
... but it is our backyard, and we are the players. Without our willing cooperation, they are powerless. They rule with the consent of the governed, or in the very least without the governed being actively agianst them.
The courts have largely depended upon citizens and companies willing cooperation. Granted, with a court order, the assets of a corporation can be seized, but what if said company has no assets within the United States? Then the government would be reduced to seizing the property of a "person" that does not exist within its boundries. While this can certanly be done, even these United States would not sit for it for very long.
That which exists in only a cyber media does not and cannot fall within the jurisdiction of a land-based government.
surely, you would say that it is these courts that own the bat and ball and make up the rules
They may stop MP3.com, though the judge has issued a ruling which violates both the principles of copyright, and the meaning of fair use.
From here, we know what is coming. And we have two options. We can either sit idly by and watch events unravel to determine the course of our very lives, or we can refuse to play the game. By refusing, we need merely not admit to the existence of laws which we feel immoral, perhaps even ignore the existence of the US government itself.
Too bad I am posting this after several hours discussion, i doubt that anyone, even the moderators, will read this post.
Chris Nichols
If is they come out with a new one every year. And even then, it'd have to run all the old games. If they did that, then in a few years they might become a dominating force... otherwise ... well, who wants to use a 3 year old nVidia card?
Wonderful, I've been trying to remember that quote for a month. You've made my day.
Here's what i think might work:
Instead of Baby-bills, a type of solution that didn't work with the baby bells, why not simply make the code open source, but keeping a central distro?
Microsoft could charge for the distro, like the linux companies do now. However, anyone could send in code updates or suggestions. MS could then review the code, ideas, whatever, that are coming in, with some sort of philosophy guiding the code.
This would allow for a good operating system, software, et all, and realistically stop Microsoft from "harming consumers" while keeping a uniform operating system -- which is good for professional programmers. (who wants to recompile/write software for every flavor of unix?)
Third party programs, such as games, could remain propreitory, but Microsoft would not be making these. MS could be limited to the creation of programs that fall under this new liscence, which would only be for essential programs, such as Word and a browser.
Well, that's what i think. Does anyone agree?
Is anybody else just all about cheap space travel? Unfortunately, i don't think things are much cheaper now than in '69, or am i mistaken? Oh sure, NASA is underfunded, but government isn't the best agency for creating new technology anyway, is it?
Why not privatize space travel, I'm sure that old age homes and honeymoon places will pop up almost overnight.
Just because a University receives some government money doesn't mean that every part of it belongs to the people, and it definetly doesn't mean that the instritution cannot say what their network can and cannot be used for.
Your statement is parralel(sp) to saying "The pentagon receives federal money, so i should be able to look through top secret files, because they belong to the people." The latter statement is obviously false, so how could the previous be true?
This'll propably get moderated down, but oh well, i had to say it.
Chrislike
It seems to me that this is by no means "unconstitutional" ... as the University provides the internet service, and can therefore say what it can be used for. This doesn't mean that its a good thing, but the Universitiy's definetly make more money, what with the agreements they have with large communication companies. As for the predominance of Coke-a-cola products on a lot of campuses, i know that here, at the unversity of oklahoma, coke has an exclusive liscence for drinks, which means even fruit juices are cokacola products.
I'd have to recommend anything by Heinlein, with exception of Number of the Beast and things of that time period, basicly nothing writtin in the 80s. Stranger in a Strange Land is a great messiah story, but that gets into a religious argument that can be as silly as ways of indentation. The Ender's Game Quartet, by Orson Scott Card, (now 5 actually) is petty good, although the third and fourth books arn't wonderful.
Whats the current law on MP3s? From what i understand (perhaps completely wrong), the artist can say whether or not (s)he wants MP3s made of the song ... but if an MP3 is illegally made, i was under the impression that the file itself was legal for transfer. That is, that it is the act not the storing of MP3s that can be illegal. Anybody know for sure?
Firsties! Besides, I'm at a university and don't see how they can stop me using Napster, unless they kill my net connection.
The only way this could work is if transmeta created the JVM for the crusco, then I think it woudl work at the same level as the x86 instruction set, just coverting java straight to VLIM instead of whatever was running on the x86 system. It's a decent idea, but Sun woudn't be able to right the JVM, as they don't have access to the instruction set, like the rest of us.