too bad people can remember their popular cultural references, i.e.: V for Vendetta - Governments should be afraid of their citizens... not the other way around.
The problem of the 'heroic resistance of individuals' is that as stated above this only works in Hollywood. The fact of the matter is that due to individual fear a dozen people can be held off by a lone 'bad guy' with a revolver that has 6 shots. When societal issues arise that affect everyone society loses because the individuals that comprise it wont act out of fear for their individual lives.
Mind you, when 'society' (aka: governments usually, but sometimes the actual society) decides that some must die in a war... well, you can fix a problem with a solution that in other instance (like war) are an atrocity (i.e.: drafts).
You're preaching to the choir unfortunately. Far too often the people that need to hear this message are not the ones listening. Not only are the Mean Bastard Accountants (aka: MBAs) not listening but neither is HR - I was once told by a HR "friend" that since she had a stack of resumes for IT people 6 inches high that she could replace any IT person without impact to the company... something it took a year of persuasion to dissuade her of.
Unfortunately I have no suggestions on how to get the people that we need to listen to actually listen - particularly since kidnapping is illegal and tying them to educate them is frequently misunderstood. This goes for both the "leadership" of a company and the Mean Bastard Accountants.
Once you learn to cope with a new born - namely learning to sleep when you can for however long is available & sleeping through 3AM nursing or diaper changes - you'll find that there are no problems with coping with the on call alerts.
However, unless the company you work for has pictures of you that you don't want public... go find a better job.
It is cheaper to find a better job than to have a baby.
I say... if it is the first experimental ship: definitely send the politicians, MBAs, lawyers, movie/sports stars.
Let's just avoid sending the phone sanitizers so as to avoid the tragedy noted in HHGTTG.
DO: Die your hair, shave your face, dress in "current" fashion, listen to "modern" music.
DON'T: talk about things that obviously date you, expect those younger than you to "respect" you automatically, think that you can get by on what you've already done.
Keep in mind that things that no longer grow are functionally... if not literally... dead; so don't stop learning and growing your skills base.
And finally, quit thinking that society owes you anything. If you aren't willing to offer what they are buying, then don't expect them to buy what your selling.
For instance, "the audience here" isn't much more likely to view these as absolutes... too many of us run into the "standards aren't" in our day-to-day lives to really have any faith in "absolutes".
Second, some "descriptives" actually are correct. My MBTI is INTJ and the description/explanation given by Dr. Keirsey in his book 'Please Understand Me' is exceedingly accurate for me.
Now if you were trying to make the point that assumptions based on description of a person by a third party can not only be inaccurate but harmful... sure. However... as an INTJ that is not how I interpreted what you wrote.;)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If only they would...
but I seriously doubt they they could resist the urge to get free porn/mp3s/movies for their personal use (under the guise of looking for "bad things")
So what happens when the malware guys decide to have their malware fire off images that are on this list of banned files/images?
Suppose that their 'smart' and have the image embeded in the malware (or otherwise obscured). the malware sits there for a while and infects as many systems as possible... then the SPAM event happens. With this crap... I mean "wonderful, keep-our-kids-safe" software kicks in and drags even more of the internet down, who's gonna pick up the tab?
I know... have the **AA morons... I mean overlord masters, sign an iron-clad agreement to pick up that tab and I'll gladly get infected.:|
Except... I don't really feel like being arrested for having been infected by perverted malware.:(
[and yes... I stopped reading after awhile, there were too many repeats]
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First: IT changes too quickly for a seniority system to function.
Second: Lots of bitch, whine and complain.
Third: Lots of narrow-focused argueing about slightly related topics.
Forth: A few truely insightful comments (see first point).
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I'll close with a question: Do you really want your network potentially held hostage in a strike driven by newbies, no-nothings or 'technical sales' morons? How could a 'technical union' be structured to work and yet protect against such unqualified twits from destroying your ability to use your own network?
If all you are using it for is email... ask yourself just how sensitive the info you email is.
If it's just jokes and crap like that, or even if it is mailing list... why worry to much. Sell it to them with the requirement that you still keep your email address. Even if it is just a redirect.
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Of course, if there are confidential emails or stuff that would be FYOS appropriate (or that could cause legal problems)... don't do the "keep your email address" part.
Either way... both these options should have been obvious, so it seems that you just want someone to justify your already made decision for you...
you gonna tell us what you are trying to have justified?
Why? Cause since I know how completely disfunctional this place is (and I work in government) I know just how hard it would be for "Big Brother" to do anything to me.
Not that BB doesn't hit a few targets by accident... but we're all pretty much safe from intentional action.
From the press release: "Xbox LIVE connects more than 12 million members across 26 countries ".
So... if they are 'hoping to connect/register' 2 million young voters, and that 'the LIVE community would be the 7th laargest state' if it were a state - then why even make statement in the above quote?
It's like they didn't even read their own press release.
Consider: putting your electronic devices through the airport X-ray screening devices does nothing.
Consider: almost all devices currently made are either already shielded
Consider: Sarcasm - a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark
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Since everyone else would likely either deride this for the obvious problems it still has to overcome... and I am wanting to at least put a smile on faces... I figured that I would make an oblique reference to old magnetic field problems.
Unfortunately for you... you simply didn't get it.
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However, this tech does require that whatever will use it or be near it be shielded against or tolerant of magnetic fields.
So... you'll give up on plugging things in so that you can put your iPod (or whatever) onto what is essentially a pulsating magnetic field device... otherwise known in the past as a "mass magnetic media wipe" device?
I mean, really, are you a geek or not? Just make everyone play from home (or their parent's basements as the cases may be), use a VPN as needed.
It's not like you gonna have gurlz there, right?
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too bad people can remember their popular cultural references, i.e.: V for Vendetta - Governments should be afraid of their citizens... not the other way around.
The problem of the 'heroic resistance of individuals' is that as stated above this only works in Hollywood. The fact of the matter is that due to individual fear a dozen people can be held off by a lone 'bad guy' with a revolver that has 6 shots. When societal issues arise that affect everyone society loses because the individuals that comprise it wont act out of fear for their individual lives.
Mind you, when 'society' (aka: governments usually, but sometimes the actual society) decides that some must die in a war... well, you can fix a problem with a solution that in other instance (like war) are an atrocity (i.e.: drafts).
I offer not solutions, just and observation.
Unfortunately I have no suggestions on how to get the people that we need to listen to actually listen - particularly since kidnapping is illegal and tying them to educate them is frequently misunderstood. This goes for both the "leadership" of a company and the Mean Bastard Accountants.
Once you learn to cope with a new born - namely learning to sleep when you can for however long is available & sleeping through 3AM nursing or diaper changes - you'll find that there are no problems with coping with the on call alerts. However, unless the company you work for has pictures of you that you don't want public... go find a better job. It is cheaper to find a better job than to have a baby.
You're married? Clearly YOU aren't in IT.
I say... if it is the first experimental ship: definitely send the politicians, MBAs, lawyers, movie/sports stars. Let's just avoid sending the phone sanitizers so as to avoid the tragedy noted in HHGTTG.
DO: Die your hair, shave your face, dress in "current" fashion, listen to "modern" music.
DON'T: talk about things that obviously date you, expect those younger than you to "respect" you automatically, think that you can get by on what you've already done.
Keep in mind that things that no longer grow are functionally... if not literally... dead; so don't stop learning and growing your skills base. And finally, quit thinking that society owes you anything. If you aren't willing to offer what they are buying, then don't expect them to buy what your selling.
- Captain Obvious
Are you sure you need NNTP to get your kitty pr0n?
For instance, "the audience here" isn't much more likely to view these as absolutes... too many of us run into the "standards aren't" in our day-to-day lives to really have any faith in "absolutes".
Second, some "descriptives" actually are correct. My MBTI is INTJ and the description/explanation given by Dr. Keirsey in his book 'Please Understand Me' is exceedingly accurate for me.
Now if you were trying to make the point that assumptions based on description of a person by a third party can not only be inaccurate but harmful... sure. However... as an INTJ that is not how I interpreted what you wrote. ;)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If only they would... but I seriously doubt they they could resist the urge to get free porn/mp3s/movies for their personal use (under the guise of looking for "bad things")
So what happens when the malware guys decide to have their malware fire off images that are on this list of banned files/images?
Suppose that their 'smart' and have the image embeded in the malware (or otherwise obscured). the malware sits there for a while and infects as many systems as possible... then the SPAM event happens. With this crap... I mean "wonderful, keep-our-kids-safe" software kicks in and drags even more of the internet down, who's gonna pick up the tab?
I know... have the **AA morons... I mean overlord masters, sign an iron-clad agreement to pick up that tab and I'll gladly get infected. :|
Except... I don't really feel like being arrested for having been infected by perverted malware. :(
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First: IT changes too quickly for a seniority system to function.
Second: Lots of bitch, whine and complain.
Third: Lots of narrow-focused argueing about slightly related topics.
Forth: A few truely insightful comments (see first point).
---
I'll close with a question: Do you really want your network potentially held hostage in a strike driven by newbies, no-nothings or 'technical sales' morons? How could a 'technical union' be structured to work and yet protect against such unqualified twits from destroying your ability to use your own network?
If it's just jokes and crap like that, or even if it is mailing list... why worry to much. Sell it to them with the requirement that you still keep your email address. Even if it is just a redirect.
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Of course, if there are confidential emails or stuff that would be FYOS appropriate (or that could cause legal problems)... don't do the "keep your email address" part.
Either way... both these options should have been obvious, so it seems that you just want someone to justify your already made decision for you...
you gonna tell us what you are trying to have justified?
Ain't the 'Backspace' key a great thing?
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Of course you must have a few gold disks laying around... maybe talk to NASA and see if they have any left over.
Not that BB doesn't hit a few targets by accident... but we're all pretty much safe from intentional action.
So... if they are 'hoping to connect/register' 2 million young voters, and that 'the LIVE community would be the 7th laargest state' if it were a state - then why even make statement in the above quote?
It's like they didn't even read their own press release.
Consider: almost all devices currently made are either already shielded
Consider: Sarcasm - a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark
Since everyone else would likely either deride this for the obvious problems it still has to overcome... and I am wanting to at least put a smile on faces... I figured that I would make an oblique reference to old magnetic field problems.
Unfortunately for you... you simply didn't get it.
...
However, this tech does require that whatever will use it or be near it be shielded against or tolerant of magnetic fields.
I'll stick to my cables thanks.
I mean, really, are you a geek or not? Just make everyone play from home (or their parent's basements as the cases may be), use a VPN as needed. It's not like you gonna have gurlz there, right?
So the point of your reply is: if you post about money/assets/etc, do it from a Slashdot account with a HIGH member number?