Starz is notorious for showing crappy B-Rated movies that you'd certainly never intentionally see in the movie theatre. Every so often, perhaps once a month they'll have 1 block buster movie that you'd consider watching...
This is precisely what I have been saying in this entire thread. So thank you for agreeing with me, although it would have been nice if you had spared me the 30 posts of bs.
Running on a computer with a hard drive covers the 0.000001% of the computer users of the world. That doesn't convince me to use Linux over Windows.
All the issues Linux has are not difficult issues to deal with. It requires unity and persistence. Apple managed to pump out OS X based on BSD with a super-solid implementation with excellent standards for hardware and software configurability. Until Linux gets up to that level, it'll only be good for the server market. There is a specific reason why Linux doesn't dominate the Desktop OS market. That reason is simply because its not usable for the average end-user. If it were, you'd bet your ass that Gateway, Dell, Micron, etc would be jumping on the linux band wagon to reduce costs.
Install and run the OS on a computer that has no graphics card.
(That is what the serial port is for... running a console until you get the ethernet port working)
This is my point. Nobody using a Desktop OS would have the need to do this. This sort of operation might be nice for a server, but to check your email, browse the net, designing software/buildings/vehicles, editing photos and videos, editing audio, etc etc, the user will need a graphics card on a Desktop OS.
If Linux wants to grab the "install the OS on a machine with no graphics card" niche, they've got that one solid (0.00000001% of the computer industry has a need for this). Perhaps now they should work on standardizing its windowing interface so that it can grab the 99.9999999% niche which is Desktop OS usage by the average computer user.
Like I said, I stopped using Linux as anything other than a server a few years ago because its a royal pain in the ass with respect to usability. I don't have time to deal with library dependencies or compiling the kernel or building an install diskette because the kernel panics on boot because its missing a drive. All of these things are configuration details that are fixed in multiple different distros and software installations, each with their own learning curve. Linux is only good for server apps... its very powerful there. As a Desktop OS its got a lot of cool bells and whistles, but when it comes down to it, you still need to fuck around with it for hours just to set up your printer properly and other ridiculous features that it should support long before people can claim its a viable Desktop OS. Until that point, its only painful to the end-user.
Like what? What can you do on a Linux machine that you cannot on a Windows machine?
Besides, that wasn't the point of my post. The point was that Linux distros have no standard usability and likely never will because the community is so losely coupled.
I used Linux from '96 - ~2002, when I finally gave up because I simply didn't have the time to keep on top of all the usability changes and library dependency hell whenever I upgraded. I'm not bashing Linux. I love Linux. I use it for server applications and its very realiable, but the whole "Why isn't Linux adopted as a Desktop OS??" question is a farce and nobody in the community will even acknowledge its serious issues. The mere fact that my original post was marked as Flamebait is a perfect demonstration of the community's attitude towards constructive criticism.
I am a developer on UNIX systems, specifically Solaris, in C++.
Developing software is COMPLETELY irrelevent to this conversation because we're talking about why people stay away from Windows (or Linux). The End-User is RARELY a developer.
This is bogus. There is not a single feature supported in Windows that is easier to configure in Linux. Linux has a severe issue with documentation, usability and general "stupid-user friendliness" that will always keep it bound to the elitist geek population rather than the mainstream world. There are a gazillion distributions of the OS itself that configure things in wildly different ways with virtually NO usability standards other than what it inherited from the Unix world.
Linux has its place, and yes I do love it; its an excellent work horse, but I don't have the time to spend hours working on getting some obscure software/hardware to install and run properly. Go ahead and flame me, but this is just my personal experience from a Linux user since '96.
I challenge that, what about small businesses that use devices such as this for their internet connection?
Because by using the hardware/software you have to agree to certain terms. One of the terms is that the software manufacturer is not responsible for monetary damages incurred by using their product. This is entirely different from sueing for damages because a Doctor left some scissors in your belly or your car self-imploded causing you to get hurt.
On top of that, your "far fetched situations" involve an assailant who is committing crimes. Someone can just as easily toss a grenade in your window because the window was shipped "open" and you never bothered to close it, but that doesn't mean you would have a lawsuit against the window mnufacturer...
You *can* sue software companies for their software. The problem is that it needs to be something serious, like "the software failed to sew up the hole in my stomach" or "the software failed to build the support beam properly", although both situations require human interaction.
If the cruise control in your car were to go berserk and drive you into a brick wall, you'd bet your ass you'd be sueing the car manufacturer (read: company that wrote the firmware). Having your firewall vulnerable on the Internet is hardly a serious issue.
Whats amusing about this whole topic is that I *only* play my games when my wife is home and its to no disrespect to her. I liken it to the same reason my dog would only eat his food after I come home.
You're definately right though, you need to make some sacrifices. Watering your relationship is just as important as watering your plants... it only takes a couple weeks of neglect to kill them!
Yes, he let them in. He was also spying on the weapons inspectors and sabotaging their vehicles in order to stall them. For example, flattening all 4 tires on all their SUV's, etc etc
Maybe they're talking about the Portable Media Center. Its basically a device with a PocketPC size screen that has super high resolution. Plays movies, mp3s, etc.
Barring cost, why not use the same technique as those filterless air purifiers. They produce directional air flow, which I have always assumed the velocity of the air was a function of the amount of electricity used in the system.
... because when the movie makes a shit-ton of money, some dumbass will sue the movie company demanding compensation for their charity work. This follows the same path as the AOL Tech Support people who donated free time to help users and got "free AOL time" as a result.
Starz is notorious for showing crappy B-Rated movies that you'd certainly never intentionally see in the movie theatre. Every so often, perhaps once a month they'll have 1 block buster movie that you'd consider watching...
perform literally "mission critical" operations in a combat environment
When was the last time the Swedish did anything with their military... WW2??
Linux has an incredibly high barrier to entry
This is precisely what I have been saying in this entire thread. So thank you for agreeing with me, although it would have been nice if you had spared me the 30 posts of bs.
See this post here
Running on a computer with a hard drive covers the 0.000001% of the computer users of the world. That doesn't convince me to use Linux over Windows.
All the issues Linux has are not difficult issues to deal with. It requires unity and persistence. Apple managed to pump out OS X based on BSD with a super-solid implementation with excellent standards for hardware and software configurability. Until Linux gets up to that level, it'll only be good for the server market. There is a specific reason why Linux doesn't dominate the Desktop OS market. That reason is simply because its not usable for the average end-user. If it were, you'd bet your ass that Gateway, Dell, Micron, etc would be jumping on the linux band wagon to reduce costs.
Install and run the OS on a computer that has no graphics card.
(That is what the serial port is for... running a console until you get the ethernet port working)
This is my point. Nobody using a Desktop OS would have the need to do this. This sort of operation might be nice for a server, but to check your email, browse the net, designing software/buildings/vehicles, editing photos and videos, editing audio, etc etc, the user will need a graphics card on a Desktop OS.
If Linux wants to grab the "install the OS on a machine with no graphics card" niche, they've got that one solid (0.00000001% of the computer industry has a need for this). Perhaps now they should work on standardizing its windowing interface so that it can grab the 99.9999999% niche which is Desktop OS usage by the average computer user.
Like I said, I stopped using Linux as anything other than a server a few years ago because its a royal pain in the ass with respect to usability. I don't have time to deal with library dependencies or compiling the kernel or building an install diskette because the kernel panics on boot because its missing a drive. All of these things are configuration details that are fixed in multiple different distros and software installations, each with their own learning curve. Linux is only good for server apps... its very powerful there. As a Desktop OS its got a lot of cool bells and whistles, but when it comes down to it, you still need to fuck around with it for hours just to set up your printer properly and other ridiculous features that it should support long before people can claim its a viable Desktop OS. Until that point, its only painful to the end-user.
But... there are a LOT of things that Windows is not good at. Most people aren't inclined to do those things. Hell... most couldn't if they wanted to.
Tell me what those things are and I'll explain to you precisely why Linux is not a viable Desktop OS.
How many End-Users use Perl in their everyday usage of a computer?
Like what? What can you do on a Linux machine that you cannot on a Windows machine?
Besides, that wasn't the point of my post. The point was that Linux distros have no standard usability and likely never will because the community is so losely coupled.
I used Linux from '96 - ~2002, when I finally gave up because I simply didn't have the time to keep on top of all the usability changes and library dependency hell whenever I upgraded. I'm not bashing Linux. I love Linux. I use it for server applications and its very realiable, but the whole "Why isn't Linux adopted as a Desktop OS??" question is a farce and nobody in the community will even acknowledge its serious issues. The mere fact that my original post was marked as Flamebait is a perfect demonstration of the community's attitude towards constructive criticism.
I am a developer on UNIX systems, specifically Solaris, in C++.
Developing software is COMPLETELY irrelevent to this conversation because we're talking about why people stay away from Windows (or Linux). The End-User is RARELY a developer.
This is bogus. There is not a single feature supported in Windows that is easier to configure in Linux. Linux has a severe issue with documentation, usability and general "stupid-user friendliness" that will always keep it bound to the elitist geek population rather than the mainstream world. There are a gazillion distributions of the OS itself that configure things in wildly different ways with virtually NO usability standards other than what it inherited from the Unix world.
Linux has its place, and yes I do love it; its an excellent work horse, but I don't have the time to spend hours working on getting some obscure software/hardware to install and run properly. Go ahead and flame me, but this is just my personal experience from a Linux user since '96.
Testing, testing
I challenge that, what about small businesses that use devices such as this for their internet connection?
Because by using the hardware/software you have to agree to certain terms. One of the terms is that the software manufacturer is not responsible for monetary damages incurred by using their product. This is entirely different from sueing for damages because a Doctor left some scissors in your belly or your car self-imploded causing you to get hurt.
On top of that, your "far fetched situations" involve an assailant who is committing crimes. Someone can just as easily toss a grenade in your window because the window was shipped "open" and you never bothered to close it, but that doesn't mean you would have a lawsuit against the window mnufacturer...
You *can* sue software companies for their software. The problem is that it needs to be something serious, like "the software failed to sew up the hole in my stomach" or "the software failed to build the support beam properly", although both situations require human interaction.
If the cruise control in your car were to go berserk and drive you into a brick wall, you'd bet your ass you'd be sueing the car manufacturer (read: company that wrote the firmware). Having your firewall vulnerable on the Internet is hardly a serious issue.
Exactly... the sooner I can get off this crazy fucking planet, the better!
Whats amusing about this whole topic is that I *only* play my games when my wife is home and its to no disrespect to her. I liken it to the same reason my dog would only eat his food after I come home.
You're definately right though, you need to make some sacrifices. Watering your relationship is just as important as watering your plants... it only takes a couple weeks of neglect to kill them!
Yes, he let them in. He was also spying on the weapons inspectors and sabotaging their vehicles in order to stall them. For example, flattening all 4 tires on all their SUV's, etc etc
Maybe they're talking about the Portable Media Center. Its basically a device with a PocketPC size screen that has super high resolution. Plays movies, mp3s, etc.
Barring cost, why not use the same technique as those filterless air purifiers. They produce directional air flow, which I have always assumed the velocity of the air was a function of the amount of electricity used in the system.
"A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey."
:-P
Not to discourage people's efforts for commercial space ventures, but I think that quote is suitable in this case
wtf... did you barter for this or did they offer?
Prove it.
MOD this up, this is great!
s/created/wrote to
yeah, he sounds like a great doctor... I wonder if he's taking his Paxil :-P