Cant be more than $10,000? I have single switches worth 6x that. Depends very much on the numbe and type of users. 5 engineers working on 3d mining models need much more capable network hardware than 5 accountants for example.
Be very careful in meeting requirements. You shitty home grade un managed gigabit switch is not suitable for pushing gigabit to office desktops for example. Leave home user grade shot at home. Not all "gigabit" switching hardware is equal. Pay attention to backplane bandwidth. If it's not listed in the product specs, there is probably a reason for that (i.e. It's shit:-P)
Hire consultants. Buy juniper. Point finger if it breaks. If you have no experience, getting dropped in the deep end is a recipe for failure. Read up as much as you can to get an overview of the concepts involved but leave implementation details to someone who knows what they are doing. Then learn by example. Maintaining an existing well set up network will keep your hands full enough for a while.
Or... y'know... restore otheros. Or... get outside of the hypervisor to get full access to the hardware. Or for curiosity's sake. Or a million other reasons.
just one thing to add "more power than any regular user will ever need" = for the life of the box they purchase. Of course CPU requirement will continue to scale eventually, but by the time the ARM based machine they buy is no longer quick enough it will be 5+ years old and due for replacement due to wear/warranty expiry/etc.
Alternatively, even though intel has won, he is acknowledging that for 99.9% of people, CPU performance no longer matters as much as it used to.
In general use for example, I see no difference between the core i5 in my work machine, and then Pentium D in my oldest home box.
Gaming? Sure, however even that is becoming more GPU constrained.
Both AMD and intel are on notice. Hence both are putting more focus into GPUs. In terms of CPU, it won't be that long before some random multi-core strongarm variant is more power than any regular user will ever need, and they absolutely kill x86 in terms of performance per watt.
The focus is no longer absolute CPU performance, it is shifting towards price, size, heat and power consumption. Computing is going mobile and finding its way into ever smaller devices. Rather than building one large box, distributed computing is the new wave (the cloud, clustering, etc).
AMD's CPU business might have a tricky path ahead, bu thent so does x86 in general, barring niche markets. If AMD are doomed, then intel's traditional dominance using x86 won't be too far behind them.
Don't forget that IPC isn't the be all and end all. If you're stalled due to cache misses, then IPC goes out the Window. Modern CPUs have much more cache and much faster buses to main memory than we had in 2004. That is a large reason as to why they're faster. They also have additional instructions that can do more work per instruction - so comparing IPC from CPUs released today to CPUs released last decade is even more meaningless.
Well yes, if such GPUs were available today, sure. They're not. However the gaming benchmark is not useless, because its a real-world mix of code in a typical app the CPU might be used to run. You're looking at the benchmarks expecting them to be some absolute result. They're not. You have to use your head and interpret the results, as with any experiement. A benchmark isn't a "you need to buy this cpu for this game" statement. Its a performance indication on a particular code path.
Synthetic benchmarks might give you a number to compare CPUs with, but if they're not doing real world tasks (or even better, the exact tasks you intend to use the box for, such as running a game if you're a gamer) they are easily cheated on - the cpu vendor can simply spend transistors on optimizing for the instructions most commonly used on the benchmark.
In summary: without thoughtful analysis, all benchmark results are useless. Also, no one benchmark should be taken as "authoritative". Compare multiple benchmarks, pay special attention to those that run similar code/apps was you will be running, and make your choice that way.
that wasn't the point. the point is the gp was acting all smug like running linux instantly makes him more secure/suprior.
In the past decade i've dealt with many hacked machines, and they haven't all been windows. An idiotic enough user will result in any system being compromised. Which was the GP's point.
Not stupid at all. It shows that if your video is not a factor or you upgrade to an adequate video card when one is available,the better cpu to buy is X.
This is common practice that has been used for at least a decade now.
furthermore - its a SYNTHETIC BENCHMARK. no one wants to play crysis at 800x600, but its a tool we can use to measure cpu performance. no one wants to buy a PC soley to sit and calculate prime numbers all day either, but stressprime and other stuff is used for benchmarking also.
My only caveat with the current apple TV2 = lack of flash. it has 8gb sure, but that won't go very far unless they're planning to use it merely as cache and stream content from the cloud (possibility? would suck without decent net speed though).
Perhaps they can re-jig the usb port to support additional storage?
or, you know... could just be that they want to support a single architecture to make debugging and porting code between OS X and IOS a whole shitload easier.
Could be interesting if they have a cut down x86/x64 based console coming out - cross platform IOS/OS X apple games anyone?
multiple $3 releases for 100 million copies > $50 release with associated longer dev time selling maybe 1 million copies to "hard core" gamers. development costs likely far less, too - and also due to the dev costs being far less, more outrageous ideas are less risky to pursue.
besides controllers via blu-tooth would be piss easy to support with a firmware upgrade.
i reckon an appleTV style box for say 300 dollars with ipad 2 hardware would be well within the ballpark given that it won't need gps, 3g, gyroscope, touch screen, etc.
There's a HUGE developer base currently writing for IOS who will be able to do some pretty interesting things with more powerful hardware. to develop for a console has previously required learning a new API/toolkit, etc. IOS is already familiar.
I emailed jobs a few months ago with just such an idea. There a millions of developers on IOS who are surely chomping at the bit for a beefy system comparable to the ps3 to code for using the same familiar API.
I had no response, so i reckon it was close to the mark:D
more to the point, 30 days of playstation plus will give me approximately 10-40 minutes of value (I am busy, and use the ps3 mostly for media). for the multiple hours i had to spend dealing with people changing my cc details. not good enough sony.
Ahhh but you fail at marketing speak 101. "no evidence to suggest there has been compromise of credit card information" is NOT "we have not lost any credit card info". a good hacker will not leave evidence of that, and from TFA they had lacking intrustion detection and network monitoring software to detect it. So no evidence is no surprise. But they didn't lie, they were just very selective with the truth.
Given that i have a life and time spent with the "free" offers of stuff over 30 days is likely to be approximately 45 minutes, what the fuck are sony going to do to compensate me for the 4+ hours of wasted time that I had to spend changing credit card details everywhere because they were so un-forthcoming with the distribution of my personal details?
Good old Vlad the Impaler used to do this - deliberately leave gold items in the middle of town. Stealing was still punishable by impalement though. His crime rate was remarkably low.
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Cant be more than $10,000? I have single switches worth 6x that. Depends very much on the numbe and type of users. 5 engineers working on 3d mining models need much more capable network hardware than 5 accountants for example.
Be very careful in meeting requirements. You shitty home grade un managed gigabit switch is not suitable for pushing gigabit to office desktops for example. Leave home user grade shot at home. Not all "gigabit" switching hardware is equal. Pay attention to backplane bandwidth. If it's not listed in the product specs, there is probably a reason for that (i.e. It's shit :-P)
Hire consultants. Buy juniper. Point finger if it breaks. If you have no experience, getting dropped in the deep end is a recipe for failure. Read up as much as you can to get an overview of the concepts involved but leave implementation details to someone who knows what they are doing. Then learn by example. Maintaining an existing well set up network will keep your hands full enough for a while.
Or... y'know... restore otheros. Or... get outside of the hypervisor to get full access to the hardware. Or for curiosity's sake. Or a million other reasons.
just one thing to add "more power than any regular user will ever need" = for the life of the box they purchase. Of course CPU requirement will continue to scale eventually, but by the time the ARM based machine they buy is no longer quick enough it will be 5+ years old and due for replacement due to wear/warranty expiry/etc.
Alternatively, even though intel has won, he is acknowledging that for 99.9% of people, CPU performance no longer matters as much as it used to.
In general use for example, I see no difference between the core i5 in my work machine, and then Pentium D in my oldest home box.
Gaming? Sure, however even that is becoming more GPU constrained.
Both AMD and intel are on notice. Hence both are putting more focus into GPUs. In terms of CPU, it won't be that long before some random multi-core strongarm variant is more power than any regular user will ever need, and they absolutely kill x86 in terms of performance per watt.
The focus is no longer absolute CPU performance, it is shifting towards price, size, heat and power consumption. Computing is going mobile and finding its way into ever smaller devices. Rather than building one large box, distributed computing is the new wave (the cloud, clustering, etc).
AMD's CPU business might have a tricky path ahead, bu thent so does x86 in general, barring niche markets. If AMD are doomed, then intel's traditional dominance using x86 won't be too far behind them.
Don't forget that IPC isn't the be all and end all. If you're stalled due to cache misses, then IPC goes out the Window. Modern CPUs have much more cache and much faster buses to main memory than we had in 2004. That is a large reason as to why they're faster. They also have additional instructions that can do more work per instruction - so comparing IPC from CPUs released today to CPUs released last decade is even more meaningless.
Well yes, if such GPUs were available today, sure. They're not. However the gaming benchmark is not useless, because its a real-world mix of code in a typical app the CPU might be used to run. You're looking at the benchmarks expecting them to be some absolute result. They're not. You have to use your head and interpret the results, as with any experiement. A benchmark isn't a "you need to buy this cpu for this game" statement. Its a performance indication on a particular code path.
Synthetic benchmarks might give you a number to compare CPUs with, but if they're not doing real world tasks (or even better, the exact tasks you intend to use the box for, such as running a game if you're a gamer) they are easily cheated on - the cpu vendor can simply spend transistors on optimizing for the instructions most commonly used on the benchmark.
In summary: without thoughtful analysis, all benchmark results are useless. Also, no one benchmark should be taken as "authoritative". Compare multiple benchmarks, pay special attention to those that run similar code/apps was you will be running, and make your choice that way.
Don't rely on a single number to do it for you.
that wasn't the point. the point is the gp was acting all smug like running linux instantly makes him more secure/suprior.
In the past decade i've dealt with many hacked machines, and they haven't all been windows. An idiotic enough user will result in any system being compromised. Which was the GP's point.
... my job is hard, i don't want to do it. but pay me any way. cheers.
Not stupid at all. It shows that if your video is not a factor or you upgrade to an adequate video card when one is available,the better cpu to buy is X.
This is common practice that has been used for at least a decade now.
furthermore - its a SYNTHETIC BENCHMARK. no one wants to play crysis at 800x600, but its a tool we can use to measure cpu performance. no one wants to buy a PC soley to sit and calculate prime numbers all day either, but stressprime and other stuff is used for benchmarking also.
My only caveat with the current apple TV2 = lack of flash. it has 8gb sure, but that won't go very far unless they're planning to use it merely as cache and stream content from the cloud (possibility? would suck without decent net speed though).
Perhaps they can re-jig the usb port to support additional storage?
or, you know... could just be that they want to support a single architecture to make debugging and porting code between OS X and IOS a whole shitload easier.
Could be interesting if they have a cut down x86/x64 based console coming out - cross platform IOS/OS X apple games anyone?
i use arrange by penis
ctrl+U then enter is reasonably safe on cisco stuff.
multiple $3 releases for 100 million copies > $50 release with associated longer dev time selling maybe 1 million copies to "hard core" gamers. development costs likely far less, too - and also due to the dev costs being far less, more outrageous ideas are less risky to pursue.
besides controllers via blu-tooth would be piss easy to support with a firmware upgrade.
i reckon an appleTV style box for say 300 dollars with ipad 2 hardware would be well within the ballpark given that it won't need gps, 3g, gyroscope, touch screen, etc.
There's a HUGE developer base currently writing for IOS who will be able to do some pretty interesting things with more powerful hardware. to develop for a console has previously required learning a new API/toolkit, etc. IOS is already familiar.
I had no response, so i reckon it was close to the mark :D
those two outcomes (osama and friends safe and sound, and your kids eating lead) are not mutually exclusive.
oh i don't know, go ask some of the inmates of guantanamo
you're assuming those things weren't the actual agenda in the first place.
more to the point, 30 days of playstation plus will give me approximately 10-40 minutes of value (I am busy, and use the ps3 mostly for media). for the multiple hours i had to spend dealing with people changing my cc details. not good enough sony.
Ahhh but you fail at marketing speak 101. "no evidence to suggest there has been compromise of credit card information" is NOT "we have not lost any credit card info". a good hacker will not leave evidence of that, and from TFA they had lacking intrustion detection and network monitoring software to detect it. So no evidence is no surprise. But they didn't lie, they were just very selective with the truth.
Given that i have a life and time spent with the "free" offers of stuff over 30 days is likely to be approximately 45 minutes, what the fuck are sony going to do to compensate me for the 4+ hours of wasted time that I had to spend changing credit card details everywhere because they were so un-forthcoming with the distribution of my personal details?
Good old Vlad the Impaler used to do this - deliberately leave gold items in the middle of town. Stealing was still punishable by impalement though. His crime rate was remarkably low.