.... is safari. the corp types are wanting to use apps on their i-devices, and IE doesn't run on them. iPad and other mobile device compatibility is essential.
"We need to spend money to get rid of IE" doesn't fly with management.
"You can't run that on your iPad because it needs IE" however, does.
We get ripped off on most things here. Rear tyres for my car - US price: $300/each. Local price? $900 each. Computer stuff is generally more expensive in terms of AU vs US dollars by a factor of 1.5 or more. Our dollar is currently above parity...
Fuel is about $1.50 per litre. A coffee from a cafe is about $5. A subway 11" long sandwich is about $6-7.
Yeah, but "some point" is usually fairly promptly. HURD has been in development for decades. USB has been out for over a decade. SATA has been out for about 8 years?
They can't expect people to support/develop/test it if it won't run on anything.
This. People running IE don't WANT to be running IE. Managing the security problems is just a lot easier than replacing apps that break, dealing with no central policy management or update management, etc.
Firefox, Chrome and Opera have their own issues. Firefox has issues with multiple levels of proxy chaining in certain environments. IE security can be managed via filtering proxies, security zones, UAC, etc. Incompatibility between other browser and business apps often can not.
You don't have to be in a grey market. I'll give you my example. We are an international mining contractor based in Australia. If we host our stuff "in the cloud" - what legal juristdiction applies? Where do we stand with regards to data retention legal requirements if the cloud provider has a massive disaster and can not recover from backup (as has happened over east to a cloud provider in this country?
Where do we stand with regards to foreign corporations via governments in dubious places (e.g., DRC, Mali, etc. where we currently have operations) potentially gaining access to our data for the entire group which may not be applicable to our company in other countries?
Just because some businesses are currently running on Google, doesn't necessarily mean it's a smart idea. Plenty of businesses are still running IE6 on Windows XP, too.
Put it this way - in an ideal world, I agree with your premise. But the reality is that people expect email to work, and don't care WHY it failed. The fact that you bounced their legitimate correspondence is unacceptable to the business side of the company. The one that brings IN money.
I manage to cut over 75% of spam before it gets to content filtering by greylisting, and the spamhaus zen block list. The vast majority of spam doesn't even get to my content filter.
No, it's not perfect, but if your boss isn't willing to shell out for an ironport or you're trying to do it yourself, cutting 75% out before it even sends the content to your server is a win in my book.
Of limited usefulness. MD walks in "i'm expecting this email for a potential tender, the client tells me we are rejecting their email, and submissions close today!".
The MD receiving the odd spam is not a career limiting prospect. Missing a multi-million dollar contract due to non-delivery of business correspondence (or that reason being used as a scapegoat by your company's tendering department) potentially is.
If you are in the business world this will simply NOT work. Presumably, you are talking about russia and china - big businesses are doing a lot of work both in those regions and with companies located in those regions. For your home connection, sure....
If email filtering was as simple as dropping non-SPF approved mail, spam would not exist. There is no single silver bullet in the war against spam. And besides, when domains cost a couple of dollars to register, it's entirely possible to set up an SPF enabled domain and spam from that.
Because of course SMTP administration competence of the company's (possibly hosted) email is directly proportional to competence in the field the company works in.
Pull your head out of your arse - in the real world, businesses need to communicate.
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Not everywhere has drivers so retarded. In germany it is a massive fine for tailgating. That problem can be easily fixed.
"We need to spend money to get rid of IE" doesn't fly with management.
"You can't run that on your iPad because it needs IE" however, does.
difference is, we actually export oil and gas....
sure, they are premium tyres (265/35r18). but tyres for my bike are 600 a pair as well, and in the us they are 300 for a set.
apple recently dropped their prices as per tfa...
Except all this shit generally comes from CHINA and we are closer to China than the US is. We export far more per capita than the US does actually.
It's not just Apple, MS, etc. either.
We get ripped off on most things here. Rear tyres for my car - US price: $300/each. Local price? $900 each. Computer stuff is generally more expensive in terms of AU vs US dollars by a factor of 1.5 or more. Our dollar is currently above parity...
Fuel is about $1.50 per litre. A coffee from a cafe is about $5. A subway 11" long sandwich is about $6-7.
He said problems in software people actually use.
Shipping code beats vapor, no matter the design. Linux won. Mach/OS X won. Hurd is still a steaming pile of shit, about 30 years in.
So he hasn't written any software for about 30 years then? Sounds about right.
Yeah, but "some point" is usually fairly promptly. HURD has been in development for decades. USB has been out for over a decade. SATA has been out for about 8 years?
They can't expect people to support/develop/test it if it won't run on anything.
Roll on 2004!
In other words, blame all the "you'll prise XP from my cold dead hands" blow-hards.
This. People running IE don't WANT to be running IE. Managing the security problems is just a lot easier than replacing apps that break, dealing with no central policy management or update management, etc.
Firefox, Chrome and Opera have their own issues. Firefox has issues with multiple levels of proxy chaining in certain environments. IE security can be managed via filtering proxies, security zones, UAC, etc. Incompatibility between other browser and business apps often can not.
You don't have to be in a grey market. I'll give you my example. We are an international mining contractor based in Australia. If we host our stuff "in the cloud" - what legal juristdiction applies? Where do we stand with regards to data retention legal requirements if the cloud provider has a massive disaster and can not recover from backup (as has happened over east to a cloud provider in this country?
Where do we stand with regards to foreign corporations via governments in dubious places (e.g., DRC, Mali, etc. where we currently have operations) potentially gaining access to our data for the entire group which may not be applicable to our company in other countries?
Just because some businesses are currently running on Google, doesn't necessarily mean it's a smart idea. Plenty of businesses are still running IE6 on Windows XP, too.
Put it this way - in an ideal world, I agree with your premise. But the reality is that people expect email to work, and don't care WHY it failed. The fact that you bounced their legitimate correspondence is unacceptable to the business side of the company. The one that brings IN money.
Sure. But shit rolls down-hill, and it's not the MD who's going to get fired.
I manage to cut over 75% of spam before it gets to content filtering by greylisting, and the spamhaus zen block list. The vast majority of spam doesn't even get to my content filter.
No, it's not perfect, but if your boss isn't willing to shell out for an ironport or you're trying to do it yourself, cutting 75% out before it even sends the content to your server is a win in my book.
See megaupload. If you're a business, using cloud a service for email storage is just WAY too legally grey right now. IMHO.
Of limited usefulness. MD walks in "i'm expecting this email for a potential tender, the client tells me we are rejecting their email, and submissions close today!".
The MD receiving the odd spam is not a career limiting prospect. Missing a multi-million dollar contract due to non-delivery of business correspondence (or that reason being used as a scapegoat by your company's tendering department) potentially is.
If you are in the business world this will simply NOT work. Presumably, you are talking about russia and china - big businesses are doing a lot of work both in those regions and with companies located in those regions. For your home connection, sure....
This.
If email filtering was as simple as dropping non-SPF approved mail, spam would not exist. There is no single silver bullet in the war against spam. And besides, when domains cost a couple of dollars to register, it's entirely possible to set up an SPF enabled domain and spam from that.
Because of course SMTP administration competence of the company's (possibly hosted) email is directly proportional to competence in the field the company works in.
Pull your head out of your arse - in the real world, businesses need to communicate.
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