Canonical has bullshitted too much in the past to be taken seriously about this. Several times, they've announced that new products from major vendors (Asus, Dell) would run their version of Linux. Never happened.
I am writing this comment on a Dell that came with Ubuntu preinstalled.
What is this? A voice of reason and fact? I insist you take back your harsh statement and engage in fallacy and untruth!
Canonical has bullshitted too much in the past to be taken seriously about this. Several times, they've announced that new products from major vendors (Asus, Dell) would run their version of Linux. Never happened. They need to STFU until the product ships.
I hate to break it to you, but the Kyoto Accord is based on science, whether you like that science or not. This is exactly the point: you don't like the science, and neither do most conservatives, because it indicates that a BIG business (fossil fuel based energy) is bad. Since those businesses have a fair amount of money, the Kyoto Accord is pretty anti-fossil fuel business.
Despite that fact, it is still based on valid science.
I remember the Kyoto Accord very differently then you do. The Kyoto Accord was signed by the Liberals at the end of a very unpopular Liberal term. The Liberals never made a plan of how to meet the requirements of The Kyoto Accord because it was impossible for Canada to meet it in the specified time frame. Signing it was a recognized political joke at the time.
Full disclosure: I voted Conservative for that election and Liberal for the one after.
Well it depends on what continent you feel Central America fits under. It could go either way, but generally I would agree with you as most maps round out that corner of SA and attach Central to NA.
What a dumb thing to say. Most maps? How about every map.
Running from a murder charge from a South American country doesnt really deserve bold lettering. If the charges held any water at all they would be moving for extradition.
There's a subset of self- absorbed, arrogant twits that believe that if a programming language is "too simple," it's just wrong and You. Just. Don't. Understand. REAL. Programming! I tend to filter them out as noise and recommend you do the same.
Yeah, you're right. I hate PHP because exceptions like "Unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM" are just too simple. Or how about this line of code: if(new stdClass() instanceof get_class(new stdClass()).... Just try it. Or how about this error message: "Fatal error: Exception thrown without a stack frame in Unknown on line 0". Why not just stick to the classic message: "lol error".
PHP is full of these weird errors, odd behaviours and inconsistency and you have the nerve to say that programmers are complaining about it being too simple.
I just sent him an email telling him that we need to ban curtains because obviously only people that murder other people in their living rooms have any use for curtains. So if you support having curtains, you are supporting mass-murderers.
Now I'm worried that this analogy is too complex for him to grasp.
Agreed. besides why do the believers feel the need to handle insults for their deities? I'd think that all powerful beings would be amply capable of smiting anyone they themselves deem to have insulted them, and find it quite revealing that so far none have done so.
For the same reason that I feel compelled to correct people if they happen to insult / mock someone close to me (such as my mother). I think that it is a human affection thing. If my mother isn't around then there is no harm done right?
I am not saying that I agree that the law needs to get involved here. It is very mean and certainly without class to mock my mother but there shouldn't be a law against it. In my opinion this is the same for mocking someone's beliefs or core figures of said beliefs. However, not understanding how that can be offensive is willful ignorance.
You're MORE than welcome to disprove the data in my init. post here http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2523490&cid=38045322 and GOOD LUCK (you WILL need it, along with contrary facts supporting you vs. the facts & data I posted there...).
Oh no. My wall of text comment was of two purposes. One to point out that you posted a giant wall of text. I was mocking your format not the content. I didn't bother to read it. Second point was to see if I could look more inane than you. I don't think I did.
Also, how in the world did you come up with all that text in 15 minutes?! I am astounded, alarmed and slightly impressed. I didn't read it or anything but that is a long chunk of text!
I don't understand why they don't just send it to a crime scene investigators lab to have the image made crystal clear and so that we can view the asteroid at more angles.
I feel along with the sentiment. I do not look forward to putting Unity on my parents' computer but in my opinion there are a few changes that can be made to make it more friendly. First, remove the global menu bar, unless your users come from a Mac OS X background, it's not worth the retraining. Second change the backlight always on option in ccsm to toggle so it is easy to see when an application is running. I have big hopes for this alternate application launcher: https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-bliss
Unity's not so bad on my netbook where I mostly just run Firefox on a tiny screen, but on my 11.04 laptop the app-launcher sucks, the 'global menu' sucks and the stupid scrollbars suck.
Did they fix any of those in 11.10? Oh, they can't, because they're broken by design.
The overlay scrollbars have seen improvements in the last release. They don't bother me but I really never touch them anyway since I just scroll with my mouse. To remove them, copy and paste this into your terminal: sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0
I can understand why you would dislike the global menu on a desktop. To remove them, copy this into your terminal: sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
There have been some very nice changes made to the application launcher. In my opinion, the top one of these is performance improvement but there are also other changes that make it easier to use such as seeing only applications from certain categories.
I recommend that you try it and then come back here and post about the success or failure of the latest Ubuntu release. Trying it out would lend more credibility to your stated opinion.
I don't hate it either. In fact, the only thing that I don't like about it is the application launcher but it's performance has improved a lot from where it was in 11.04. I really do hope that all the people complaining about Unity have tried the version that got released today and are not just basing their opinion on an old version.
The problem with the Roswell folklore has always been that the story completely went away until the point in time when, coincidentally, the actual witnesses had died of old age.
If you want to read an eyewitness's account of what allegedly happened, then go read the book The Day After Roswell by Phillip Corso. I haven't read it but apparently it's interesting.
Out of the box experience? The last time I installed Windows it was missing not only wireless card drivers but also the ethernet drivers. That made getting the drivers tricky.
I thought experiments were carried out during the alpha phase, and the beta phase was only supposed to be used to fix bugs...
You're probably right.
Whatever the case, I'm loving the status bar that is not a status bar being moved back to the bottom. I had a very hard time getting used to it on top.
Mark Shuttleworth has gone off the deep end recently with a lot of his decisions for Ubuntu. Dropping Gnome for Unity, and in future even dropping X for Wayland. All in the name of some vague future usability bonus, but at the same time alienating a lot of software developers and Linux community members.
I agree with most of the points you made but I disagree with you in the quoted paragraph. I have a partition on my laptop devoted to the newest Ubuntu Alpha version and I have gnome shell on my laptop which I build every couple of weeks to see what changes are being made. In my opinion, Unity is by far the more usable of the two and is superior performance-wise. I do understand that both are in active development at the time though and this might change. I don't see shipping Unity as going off the deep-end at all.
I'm withholding my judgment on the decision to move to Wayland until it actually happens.
I recommend that you go and try gnome shell; it's not that hard to build. If I'm right, you're going to feel much better about Ubuntu's move to Unity. I could be wrong of course.
It took me a while to adapt to status bar at top, and now they have changed it back to bottom. Will these guys ever learn not to fuck with the UI.
Dude, you're using a beta product. This is where the developers test various UI changes. If you don't like this then maybe you shouldn't be running the beta edition.
Sounds like your computer must have problems. The only release I've found to be pretty poor was Visual Studio.NET 2002 release, they polished it up with a 2003 release, which is really what they should've just waited to release in the first place.
I did have problems with crashing one later release (2005) I think, but it turned out to be a plugin. Arguably, they could strengthen resilience against dodgy plugins but meh, so could the likes of Firefox etc. too, it's something the industry as a whole needs to improve on.
Well, I was using the 2008 version with some kind of Oracle database plugin. So that might have been the problem.
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I am writing this comment on a Dell that came with Ubuntu preinstalled.
What is this? A voice of reason and fact? I insist you take back your harsh statement and engage in fallacy and untruth!
Canonical has bullshitted too much in the past to be taken seriously about this. Several times, they've announced that new products from major vendors (Asus, Dell) would run their version of Linux. Never happened. They need to STFU until the product ships.
Who is voting up this dumbass?
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You must be a conservative.
I hate to break it to you, but the Kyoto Accord is based on science, whether you like that science or not. This is exactly the point: you don't like the science, and neither do most conservatives, because it indicates that a BIG business (fossil fuel based energy) is bad. Since those businesses have a fair amount of money, the Kyoto Accord is pretty anti-fossil fuel business.
Despite that fact, it is still based on valid science.
I remember the Kyoto Accord very differently then you do. The Kyoto Accord was signed by the Liberals at the end of a very unpopular Liberal term. The Liberals never made a plan of how to meet the requirements of The Kyoto Accord because it was impossible for Canada to meet it in the specified time frame. Signing it was a recognized political joke at the time.
Full disclosure: I voted Conservative for that election and Liberal for the one after.
Well it depends on what continent you feel Central America fits under. It could go either way, but generally I would agree with you as most maps round out that corner of SA and attach Central to NA.
What a dumb thing to say. Most maps? How about every map.
I was pointing out that Belize is not a South American country.
Running from a murder charge from a South American country doesnt really deserve bold lettering. If the charges held any water at all they would be moving for extradition.
Really?
The Bible lists a bunch of individuals who lived 900+ years. Do you take this literally? If not, how do you interpret this?
There's a subset of self- absorbed, arrogant twits that believe that if a programming language is "too simple," it's just wrong and You. Just. Don't. Understand. REAL. Programming! I tend to filter them out as noise and recommend you do the same.
Yeah, you're right. I hate PHP because exceptions like "Unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM" are just too simple. Or how about this line of code: if(new stdClass() instanceof get_class(new stdClass()).... Just try it. Or how about this error message: "Fatal error: Exception thrown without a stack frame in Unknown on line 0". Why not just stick to the classic message: "lol error".
PHP is full of these weird errors, odd behaviours and inconsistency and you have the nerve to say that programmers are complaining about it being too simple.
I just sent him an email telling him that we need to ban curtains because obviously only people that murder other people in their living rooms have any use for curtains. So if you support having curtains, you are supporting mass-murderers.
Now I'm worried that this analogy is too complex for him to grasp.
Agreed. besides why do the believers feel the need to handle insults for their deities?
I'd think that all powerful beings would be amply capable of smiting anyone they themselves deem to have insulted them, and find it quite revealing that so far none have done so.
For the same reason that I feel compelled to correct people if they happen to insult / mock someone close to me (such as my mother). I think that it is a human affection thing. If my mother isn't around then there is no harm done right?
I am not saying that I agree that the law needs to get involved here. It is very mean and certainly without class to mock my mother but there shouldn't be a law against it. In my opinion this is the same for mocking someone's beliefs or core figures of said beliefs. However, not understanding how that can be offensive is willful ignorance.
The iPhone version was $56,000. The Blackberry version was $40,000. Together, they were $96,000. It says this very clearly in the original scan.
Where does it say that?
The iPhone version cost $96,000, and a BlackBerry app that never got distributed cost an additional $40,000.
You're MORE than welcome to disprove the data in my init. post here http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2523490&cid=38045322 and GOOD LUCK (you WILL need it, along with contrary facts supporting you vs. the facts & data I posted there...).
Oh no. My wall of text comment was of two purposes. One to point out that you posted a giant wall of text. I was mocking your format not the content. I didn't bother to read it. Second point was to see if I could look more inane than you. I don't think I did.
Also, how in the world did you come up with all that text in 15 minutes?! I am astounded, alarmed and slightly impressed. I didn't read it or anything but that is a long chunk of text!
I don't understand why they don't just send it to a crime scene investigators lab to have the image made crystal clear and so that we can view the asteroid at more angles.
I feel along with the sentiment. I do not look forward to putting Unity on my parents' computer but in my opinion there are a few changes that can be made to make it more friendly. First, remove the global menu bar, unless your users come from a Mac OS X background, it's not worth the retraining. Second change the backlight always on option in ccsm to toggle so it is easy to see when an application is running. I have big hopes for this alternate application launcher: https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-bliss
Unity's not so bad on my netbook where I mostly just run Firefox on a tiny screen, but on my 11.04 laptop the app-launcher sucks, the 'global menu' sucks and the stupid scrollbars suck.
Did they fix any of those in 11.10? Oh, they can't, because they're broken by design.
The overlay scrollbars have seen improvements in the last release. They don't bother me but I really never touch them anyway since I just scroll with my mouse. To remove them, copy and paste this into your terminal: sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0
I can understand why you would dislike the global menu on a desktop. To remove them, copy this into your terminal: sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
There have been some very nice changes made to the application launcher. In my opinion, the top one of these is performance improvement but there are also other changes that make it easier to use such as seeing only applications from certain categories.
I recommend that you try it and then come back here and post about the success or failure of the latest Ubuntu release. Trying it out would lend more credibility to your stated opinion.
I don't hate it either. In fact, the only thing that I don't like about it is the application launcher but it's performance has improved a lot from where it was in 11.04. I really do hope that all the people complaining about Unity have tried the version that got released today and are not just basing their opinion on an old version.
The problem with the Roswell folklore has always been that the story completely went away until the point in time when, coincidentally, the actual witnesses had died of old age.
If you want to read an eyewitness's account of what allegedly happened, then go read the book The Day After Roswell by Phillip Corso. I haven't read it but apparently it's interesting.
Out of the box experience? The last time I installed Windows it was missing not only wireless card drivers but also the ethernet drivers. That made getting the drivers tricky.
Yet another dick measuring contest? Seriously?
This.
And once he is at +5, we'll raise you to +5 just to get the point across.
I thought experiments were carried out during the alpha phase, and the beta phase was only supposed to be used to fix bugs...
You're probably right.
Whatever the case, I'm loving the status bar that is not a status bar being moved back to the bottom. I had a very hard time getting used to it on top.
Mark Shuttleworth has gone off the deep end recently with a lot of his decisions for Ubuntu. Dropping Gnome for Unity, and in future even dropping X for Wayland. All in the name of some vague future usability bonus, but at the same time alienating a lot of software developers and Linux community members.
I agree with most of the points you made but I disagree with you in the quoted paragraph. I have a partition on my laptop devoted to the newest Ubuntu Alpha version and I have gnome shell on my laptop which I build every couple of weeks to see what changes are being made. In my opinion, Unity is by far the more usable of the two and is superior performance-wise. I do understand that both are in active development at the time though and this might change. I don't see shipping Unity as going off the deep-end at all.
I'm withholding my judgment on the decision to move to Wayland until it actually happens.
I recommend that you go and try gnome shell; it's not that hard to build. If I'm right, you're going to feel much better about Ubuntu's move to Unity. I could be wrong of course.
It took me a while to adapt to status bar at top, and now they have changed it back to bottom. Will these guys ever learn not to fuck with the UI.
Dude, you're using a beta product. This is where the developers test various UI changes. If you don't like this then maybe you shouldn't be running the beta edition.
I suppose one must take context into account when rtfa.
Let's not get carried away here. He read the RTFA. Let's make sure that he gets credit for that.
Sounds like your computer must have problems. The only release I've found to be pretty poor was Visual Studio .NET 2002 release, they polished it up with a 2003 release, which is really what they should've just waited to release in the first place.
I did have problems with crashing one later release (2005) I think, but it turned out to be a plugin. Arguably, they could strengthen resilience against dodgy plugins but meh, so could the likes of Firefox etc. too, it's something the industry as a whole needs to improve on.
Well, I was using the 2008 version with some kind of Oracle database plugin. So that might have been the problem.