You know, we'll never hit a "don't-care-faster" point with 3d cards. There is no "good enough" speed because you ALWAYS want more polygons to work with. Look at the huge lengths people go to to approximate real per-pixel-lighting (as opposed to polygonal vertex based lighting that most people use today) and extreme surface detail in real time. Bump mapping, elevation maps, texture maps. All of these are there to simulate detail that isn't there. We have a very long way to go.
However, lets say someone makes a card that just pushes a huge amount of polys.. so much your computer can't drive the card fast enough. Whew. Great. But now there is the whole world of realtime raytracing to work with! Someday, we want to move out of fake lighting models and drawing polygons to realtime recursive raytracing, and dare I dream it, radiosity to solve the global illumination problem! Imagine.. assuming your textures are colors are photorealistc, your image will be too. Taaaddaaa.
So the reason this stuff is so important is because it's for legwork. Besides, lots of companies are trying to make massive multiuser shared environments. In 3d. Good 3d. Like what high end Nvidia and ATI cards (GeForce2, Quatro2 and Raedon) can support. That, my friend, is something right of out Snow Crash, and quite frankly I think it would kick ass. I'm looking forward to seeing this hardware become faster and faster.
'sides, the simulation people will scream "How can we get any work done if we can't SEE!". All this 3d hardware isn't applied to just games. I'm working at a company that is spending tons of money on SGI's and x86 machines with excellent video cards because they do VERY complex engineering modeling and they want to be able to see it! GeForce2's and Quatro2's being put to a very serious use. So don't laugh off this industry because you aren't a gamer. This is the future of interface design here. Try and keep up with it. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
It was one of the first games to take an astounding amount of memory for it's time. Something close to 4 megs. Voxel based rendering schemes can be more memory intensive. Also, you didn't have a full 6 degrees of freedom because doing this with voxel based systems is MUCH more complex and memory intensive. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Well, that ONLY works for modems with ludicrously short guard times. Most modems, when they get the +++, will wait a bit and discard any incoming data BEFORE accepting stuff like ATH0.I had an old hayes modem that didn't do that. You could type +++ATH0 in one of the old BBS chatrooms and it would hang up. My friends used to do it to me mercilessly.:(
Ping of Death was just sending a frickin huge IP packet to a listening computer and watching it try and deal with it. It's basically a buffer overflow, and I suppose if you were really, really good you could get arbitrary code to execute by doing it, back when it was effective. These days most OS's are smart enough to realize what's going on and not overwrite the buffer which is sitting in the kernel.:) - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Thank your for introducing some sanity into this debate on code resuse.
Everyone talks about code reuse as if it's the holy grail, and how everyone should reuse the same code because it speeds development and avoids duplication of work. But... actually many times people voluntarily DON'T use existing code on *nix machines, because of the hacker mentality. Look at the window manager blackbox. The author wrote a window manager because he was curious about the subject, and didn't really use much reusable code.
While I'm not partial to GNOME, I'll admit it isn't a Bad Thing, but I think these developers tend to take a very extremeist view of things. Admiring MS's model? Well.. sure.. but they can do it because they are one company, and because they implemented things One Way. This One Way might be a bit easier for mass development, but it also represents a large amount of control. Any windows developer is shackled by code reuse to what MS wants to allow them to do. You may disagree, but if you think about it, MS can basically torque any developer any which way.
I think MFC is proof of this. Essentially, MFC is another layer of abstraction over the win32 api (which.. well the win32api isn't great, but it certainly isn't total cruft), which is designed to be "easier" for "rapid" development of applications. It speeds the development of new applications, but, and here is the important part, ONLY USING EXISTING FEATURES. In MFC it is amazingly difficult to make NEW features. All you can do is recombine old ones.
This is the box MS wants to put you in. The reason that *NIX platfoms, and X, are so cool is that they make innovation easy. UNIX isn't stagnant, lots of new cool ideas, developers, and companies turn to *NIX solutions all the time. Maybe you end up doing work someone else did, but I personally believe that freedom has a small price... and I think a lack of general code reuse, while maybe not a Good Thing, certainly isn't as Bad as Miguel wants to make it out to be. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
It's not like the current TLD's are respected. Lots of.coms don't sell anything, and lots of.orgs aren't really organizations, and lots of.nets are just people who couldn't find the name they wanted in.com!
What to do? Add more TLDs? I say why the hell not? It's not like they are anything more than cosmetic anyways these days. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Uhh, lots of network utilities use raw sockets. These need to be root. A lot of other crap gets poured into the root category because they are stuff that only root should ever play with. I personally think all of these should be put in a user/group called "netadmin" instead of being lumped into root. Give this group what it needs to run.
I've done this to my system in the past where I was on college networks and it made me feel a hell of a lot safer. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Well, first of all let me say I've used computers in my classes for a long time, I was one of the privledged few that got to play with the apple 2 in first grade (I owned one before that) and I have to say that I'm a pretty good student, and I've always been a bit ahead of my class (back when grades weren't necessarily socially inflated).
I've been a TA to 3 teachers (English, Math, and C programming) that used computers. And my assessment is that the more the teacher knows about computers, and the application of computers in the the class's subject matter, the better compuers are.
The English teacher knew nothing about computers, and basically had kids watch powerpoint presentations about grammer. It sucked, and kids used the darkened room as a way to sleep through class.
The Math teacher was not very good with computers in general, and origially had a huge number of powerpoint presentatins to show. I managed to talk her out of it and instead we got her hooked up to a nice graphing caclulator program which was really classy. She only used the computer when introducing the students to 3-dimensional equasions and pre-calculus (like basic derivatives) and it seemed to help a lot. She would let the kids experiment with different functions, but she made them try and explain what the curves the computer would graph should look like, and why. All the kids said it was usefull.
The C class was a different story. That teacher knew a lot, but he insisted on using the computer for everything. I am a college student and I have attended some pretty stellar classes on various pogramming subjects, and none of them involved powerpoint. The class was difficult for the students to understand, and they didn't do too well. It was sad, because the teacher wouldn't listen to me when I advised him to try some new things (like letting the kids USE a computer:P)
So careful use of the computer, applied to the subject matter is good. Just dropping kids on the internet is dumb, unless they have the drive to learn about it like some of us did. Maybe it's Powerpoint's fault. Everyone uses that program way too much. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Seriously Rob, what gives with that comment? SSH is not really all THAT secure. Sure, it means a kiddie running a script probably can't find out your password or your nethack secrets or steal the code you are crafting, but SSH isn't so fearsome that someone who has decent skill in cryptography can't work it and milk out some info. Further, SSH has had some nasty security bugs in the past, and you never know when the next one might pop up.
The solution? Well, first of all, SSH is fine and good, but #1 don't use real passwords. Use one-time passwords if you are really serious about security. Second, don't use telnet, SSH or ftp (or sftp) to do critical stuff. You can't snoop a zip disk in your pocket.
If you think it's not worth the effort to cart around that way, it's probably not worth the effort to protect. One time passwords give a lot of protection in this case, but no one uses them because they don't like having to keep a card in their wallet with the latest passwords.
This challenge is great, but too bad I have no skills, good luck to entrants! Err, um, okay, nevermind, that sucked, I'll uh, go back into my cave now..
What Gundam Wing Is, and Isn't
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I have to say I agree that Gundam Wing isn't real "Gundam" and more of a cash cow, but if you take it on it's own as a shojo-type anime, it is actually pretty good.
It actually is a pretty good tradgedy.. take Heero Yui for example. Here is a kid who has been trained to be a berserker dragoon from day 1. He may even intellectually KNOW that fighting is wrong, but it's the only thing he knows how to do and so he does it. The whole story about him claiming a will to live is pretty good.
Gundam Wing dosen't have the flavor of most other Gundam shows. That's too bad.. I have seen lots of almost every gundam series and liked them all.
Take Gundam wing and subtract the gundam part (gundanium alloy!!!) and you actually have a good show. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Glad to see your professor is making sure the rich people in class have a better chance. What's this about wireless modems?!?! WTF is that?
This has got to be the single most unfair idea I have ever heard of. Your professor should be disciplined by his department!
I propose an Open Jet test. At any point in the test, you can hop in your private jet and fly around looking for information. It's about as fair. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Can you really hold yourself about those "butwipe kiddies?" What makes you any different?
From the way you act, nothing at all.
Oh, since you seem to be new to linux, try "man renice." Renice is this cute command that puts commands further in the background. So you can say... compile and do something else. It's called being productive, and multitasking. Even niced, it won't take more than 5 minutes, even on an old machine, to complie most "toys". Larger packages, of course, take longer. But I bet if you think really long and hard about it, you'll figure out why.
I know you must not be used to this, because you seem like you just been converted from Bill's army. That's ok. Were here to help you learn how to do things.
Me, my computer sucks. Not an Athlon 1000. Not even a 500 mhz computer (which seems pretty standard these days). And no, I don't even go to an alt.* usenet group. I tend to spend my time programming. You should try it. I hear visual basic is great for people like you. You could make ASP to spruce up your webpage. It seems a.. little.. nevermind.
Oh. By the way. How's Timmy and Bozo doing? Issues. 'Nuff said. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Great. Just great. It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about with slack. Further, its obvious that you deserve to be moderated down.
What scares me is how much you care. It's a webboard. Who cares? You actually look at what your Karma score is? I sure don't.
Slashdot is a festering shithole? If so, it's because of people like you. The kind of sad, little people that inhibit real discussion. Now, instead of writing an insightful question, I am wasting my time yelling at you because your idiocy ticks me off. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
I am a debian user, but I find that I only used the package system to get my system out of unstable and into frozen. Now that I have Xfree4.0 installed on my system, I really don't want to watch every X-related package break.
I miss FreeBSD's ports system. Quite frankly, compiling something isn't a hassle to me. Nor should it be to anyone. Even Xfree only took me d2 hours. Hell, I went out, had dinner, watched the simpsons, came back and it was done.
Don't give debian users a bad name with your chest-beating. Debian is a great distro, but it dosen't need people like you doing more harm than good. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
You'd be surprised. These days, it seems like companies suffer from ADD. They'll say one thing, make a few gestures towards it, then give up entirely when whoever in the higerups who was infatuated with the ideas moves on.
NVIDIA has basically made a commitment to supporting their cards under linux, with their first release. We now expect them to do it. If they are reluctant, they can simple claim there is no demand or some such.
Reminding them, forcefull, that there is demand, is a good way of doing it.
Oh, when I said FLOOD I meant the slashdot effect. If everyone who read slashdot and had one of the cards in question mailed, it would make a good reminder.
Anyone know? Who's email box should we FLOOD to get this done? The TNT2 is for the price a very nice card (some of us can't afford a huge amount of money for graphics cards).
Remember, NVIDIA's mail servers can only take so much. Let's remind them that they can move quickly if they want to.
Uhh.. so what? I don't really shine in math.. but I'm really rather good at writing. I'm also a pretty decent programmer (compared to who I'm around I suppose).
Programming is odd in that it isn't really related to anything else. People who are "born with the gift" are really just people who know how to think in a structured manner. That is one of the keys to clean, fast, working code. If you can see the problem, and the solution, in your head, you're much more likely to code a clean, efficient, and maybe even clever way to solve it. Maybe one dosen't code in a coherent manner (jumping from thought to thought, here to there) but.. that dosen't mean it's unstructured. - Paradox Man of the C!!!
Re:Why not just use BSD license?
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This silly idea that all software MUST be free, is a concept I'll never understand. Some programmers work their asses off to make a fine program, and they want to charge for it. To be honest, that is their prerogative, and their business.
The GPL is good for many things, and it has a very noble "spirit." But IMNSHO it's not the best idea. I'm not using the GPL even though I love the concept, because I want the users of my software to have OPTIONS.
One of the reasons the GPL is so unattractive is it restricts the users freedom in what they can do with the product, more so than the BSD liscense.
Maybe I'm just confused on my facts here, but I did a little homework and it seems that the GPL has several do-nots with derivative works. And twice now it's been called into question on slashdot about various holes.
Perhaps a revision is in order? Older releases can keep the old GPL, but newer releases can use the new "bug-free" GPL. - Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
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You know, we'll never hit a "don't-care-faster" point with 3d cards. There is no "good enough" speed because you ALWAYS want more polygons to work with. Look at the huge lengths people go to to approximate real per-pixel-lighting (as opposed to polygonal vertex based lighting that most people use today) and extreme surface detail in real time. Bump mapping, elevation maps, texture maps. All of these are there to simulate detail that isn't there. We have a very long way to go.
However, lets say someone makes a card that just pushes a huge amount of polys.. so much your computer can't drive the card fast enough. Whew. Great. But now there is the whole world of realtime raytracing to work with! Someday, we want to move out of fake lighting models and drawing polygons to realtime recursive raytracing, and dare I dream it, radiosity to solve the global illumination problem! Imagine.. assuming your textures are colors are photorealistc, your image will be too. Taaaddaaa.
So the reason this stuff is so important is because it's for legwork. Besides, lots of companies are trying to make massive multiuser shared environments. In 3d. Good 3d. Like what high end Nvidia and ATI cards (GeForce2, Quatro2 and Raedon) can support. That, my friend, is something right of out Snow Crash, and quite frankly I think it would kick ass. I'm looking forward to seeing this hardware become faster and faster.
'sides, the simulation people will scream "How can we get any work done if we can't SEE!". All this 3d hardware isn't applied to just games. I'm working at a company that is spending tons of money on SGI's and x86 machines with excellent video cards because they do VERY complex engineering modeling and they want to be able to see it! GeForce2's and Quatro2's being put to a very serious use. So don't laugh off this industry because you aren't a gamer. This is the future of interface design here. Try and keep up with it.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Commanche.
It was one of the first games to take an astounding amount of memory for it's time. Something close to 4 megs. Voxel based rendering schemes can be more memory intensive. Also, you didn't have a full 6 degrees of freedom because doing this with voxel based systems is MUCH more complex and memory intensive.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Well, that ONLY works for modems with ludicrously short guard times. Most modems, when they get the +++, will wait a bit and discard any incoming data BEFORE accepting stuff like ATH0.I had an old hayes modem that didn't do that. You could type +++ATH0 in one of the old BBS chatrooms and it would hang up. My friends used to do it to me mercilessly. :(
:)
Ping of Death was just sending a frickin huge IP packet to a listening computer and watching it try and deal with it. It's basically a buffer overflow, and I suppose if you were really, really good you could get arbitrary code to execute by doing it, back when it was effective.
These days most OS's are smart enough to realize what's going on and not overwrite the buffer which is sitting in the kernel.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Thank your for introducing some sanity into this debate on code resuse.
Everyone talks about code reuse as if it's the holy grail, and how everyone should reuse the same code because it speeds development and avoids duplication of work. But... actually many times people voluntarily DON'T use existing code on *nix machines, because of the hacker mentality. Look at the window manager blackbox. The author wrote a window manager because he was curious about the subject, and didn't really use much reusable code.
While I'm not partial to GNOME, I'll admit it isn't a Bad Thing, but I think these developers tend to take a very extremeist view of things. Admiring MS's model? Well.. sure.. but they can do it because they are one company, and because they implemented things One Way. This One Way might be a bit easier for mass development, but it also represents a large amount of control. Any windows developer is shackled by code reuse to what MS wants to allow them to do. You may disagree, but if you think about it, MS can basically torque any developer any which way.
I think MFC is proof of this. Essentially, MFC is another layer of abstraction over the win32 api (which.. well the win32api isn't great, but it certainly isn't total cruft), which is designed to be "easier" for "rapid" development of applications. It speeds the development of new applications, but, and here is the important part, ONLY USING EXISTING FEATURES. In MFC it is amazingly difficult to make NEW features. All you can do is recombine old ones.
This is the box MS wants to put you in. The reason that *NIX platfoms, and X, are so cool is that they make innovation easy. UNIX isn't stagnant, lots of new cool ideas, developers, and companies turn to *NIX solutions all the time. Maybe you end up doing work someone else did, but I personally believe that freedom has a small price... and I think a lack of general code reuse, while maybe not a Good Thing, certainly isn't as Bad as Miguel wants to make it out to be.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
It's not like the current TLD's are respected. Lots of .coms don't sell anything, and lots of .orgs aren't really organizations, and lots of .nets are just people who couldn't find the name they wanted in .com!
What to do? Add more TLDs? I say why the hell not? It's not like they are anything more than cosmetic anyways these days.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Uhh, lots of network utilities use raw sockets. These need to be root. A lot of other crap gets poured into the root category because they are stuff that only root should ever play with. I personally think all of these should be put in a user/group called "netadmin" instead of being lumped into root. Give this group what it needs to run.
I've done this to my system in the past where I was on college networks and it made me feel a hell of a lot safer.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Well, first of all let me say I've used computers in my classes for a long time, I was one of the privledged few that got to play with the apple 2 in first grade (I owned one before that) and I have to say that I'm a pretty good student, and I've always been a bit ahead of my class (back when grades weren't necessarily socially inflated).
:P)
I've been a TA to 3 teachers (English, Math, and C programming) that used computers. And my assessment is that the more the teacher knows about computers, and the application of computers in the the class's subject matter, the better compuers are.
The English teacher knew nothing about computers, and basically had kids watch powerpoint presentations about grammer. It sucked, and kids used the darkened room as a way to sleep through class.
The Math teacher was not very good with computers in general, and origially had a huge number of powerpoint presentatins to show. I managed to talk her out of it and instead we got her hooked up to a nice graphing caclulator program which was really classy. She only used the computer when introducing the students to 3-dimensional equasions and pre-calculus (like basic derivatives) and it seemed to help a lot. She would let the kids experiment with different functions, but she made them try and explain what the curves the computer would graph should look like, and why. All the kids said it was usefull.
The C class was a different story. That teacher knew a lot, but he insisted on using the computer for everything. I am a college student and I have attended some pretty stellar classes on various pogramming subjects, and none of them involved powerpoint. The class was difficult for the students to understand, and they didn't do too well. It was sad, because the teacher wouldn't listen to me when I advised him to try some new things (like letting the kids USE a computer
So careful use of the computer, applied to the subject matter is good. Just dropping kids on the internet is dumb, unless they have the drive to learn about it like some of us did. Maybe it's Powerpoint's fault. Everyone uses that program way too much.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Seriously Rob, what gives with that comment?
SSH is not really all THAT secure. Sure, it means a kiddie running a script probably can't find out your password or your nethack secrets or steal the code you are crafting, but SSH isn't so fearsome that someone who has decent skill in cryptography can't work it and milk out some info. Further, SSH has had some nasty security bugs in the past, and you never know when the next one might pop up.
The solution? Well, first of all, SSH is fine and good, but #1 don't use real passwords. Use one-time passwords if you are really serious about security. Second, don't use telnet, SSH or ftp (or sftp) to do critical stuff. You can't snoop a zip disk in your pocket.
If you think it's not worth the effort to cart around that way, it's probably not worth the effort to protect. One time passwords give a lot of protection in this case, but no one uses them because they don't like having to keep a card in their wallet with the latest passwords.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
This challenge is great, but too bad I have no skills, good luck to entrants! Err, um, okay, nevermind, that sucked, I'll uh, go back into my cave now..
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They just want to maximize their chances of getting it overturned...
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...there'll be just one Linux distribution... "CalSEdrakehatbianel".
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Ick, why'd they choose Caldera? I suppose if it works with Caldera, it'll probably work with other distros as well though...
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Still, not everyone in Canada has a .ca address... for example, most (all?) of the .wave.home.com people are Canada.
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http://www.alphapython.com/ for $20 domains
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Yes, yes you are. __
$20 domains @ alphapython.com
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I have to say I agree that Gundam Wing isn't real "Gundam" and more of a cash cow, but if you take it on it's own as a shojo-type anime, it is actually pretty good.
It actually is a pretty good tradgedy.. take Heero Yui for example. Here is a kid who has been trained to be a berserker dragoon from day 1. He may even intellectually KNOW that fighting is wrong, but it's the only thing he knows how to do and so he does it. The whole story about him claiming a will to live is pretty good.
Gundam Wing dosen't have the flavor of most other Gundam shows. That's too bad.. I have seen lots of almost every gundam series and liked them all.
Take Gundam wing and subtract the gundam part (gundanium alloy!!!) and you actually have a good show.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
I've found that the best place to register is http://www.alphapython.com/; they're not only cheap ($20/yr) but also provide great service as well.
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The Oxford University one is hilarious... except the link appears to be 404 not found :[
Glad to see your professor is making sure the rich people in class have a better chance. What's this about wireless modems?!?! WTF is that?
This has got to be the single most unfair idea I have ever heard of. Your professor should be disciplined by his department!
I propose an Open Jet test. At any point in the test, you can hop in your private jet and fly around looking for information. It's about as fair.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Can you really hold yourself about those "butwipe kiddies?" What makes you any different?
From the way you act, nothing at all.
Oh, since you seem to be new to linux, try "man renice." Renice is this cute command that puts commands further in the background. So you can say... compile and do something else. It's called being productive, and multitasking. Even niced, it won't take more than 5 minutes, even on an old machine, to complie most "toys". Larger packages, of course, take longer. But I bet if you think really long and hard about it, you'll figure out why.
I know you must not be used to this, because you seem like you just been converted from Bill's army. That's ok. Were here to help you learn how to do things.
Me, my computer sucks. Not an Athlon 1000. Not even a 500 mhz computer (which seems pretty standard these days). And no, I don't even go to an alt.* usenet group. I tend to spend my time programming. You should try it. I hear visual basic is great for people like you. You could make ASP to spruce up your webpage. It seems a.. little.. nevermind.
Oh. By the way. How's Timmy and Bozo doing?
Issues.
'Nuff said.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Great. Just great.
It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about with slack. Further, its obvious that you deserve to be moderated down.
What scares me is how much you care. It's a webboard. Who cares? You actually look at what your Karma score is? I sure don't.
Slashdot is a festering shithole? If so, it's because of people like you. The kind of sad, little people that inhibit real discussion. Now, instead of writing an insightful question, I am wasting my time yelling at you because your idiocy ticks me off.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
I am a debian user, but I find that I
only used the package system to get my
system out of unstable and into frozen.
Now that I have Xfree4.0 installed on my system,
I really don't want to watch every X-related package break.
I miss FreeBSD's ports system. Quite frankly, compiling something isn't a hassle to me. Nor should it be to anyone. Even Xfree only took me d2 hours. Hell, I went out, had dinner, watched the simpsons, came back and it was done.
Don't give debian users a bad name with your chest-beating. Debian is a great distro, but it dosen't need people like you doing more harm than good.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
You'd be surprised. These days, it seems like companies suffer from ADD. They'll say one thing, make a few gestures towards it, then give up entirely when whoever in the higerups who was infatuated with the ideas moves on.
NVIDIA has basically made a commitment to supporting their cards under linux, with their first release. We now expect them to do it. If they are reluctant, they can simple claim there is no demand or some such.
Reminding them, forcefull, that there is demand, is a good way of doing it.
Oh, when I said FLOOD I meant the slashdot effect. If everyone who read slashdot and had one of the cards in question mailed, it would make a good reminder.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Anyone know?
Who's email box should we FLOOD to get this done?
The TNT2 is for the price a very nice card (some of us can't afford a huge amount of money for graphics cards).
Remember, NVIDIA's mail servers can only take so much. Let's remind them that they can move quickly if they want to.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
Uhh.. so what?
I don't really shine in math.. but I'm really rather good at writing. I'm also a pretty decent programmer (compared to who I'm around I suppose).
Programming is odd in that it isn't really related to anything else. People who are "born with the gift" are really just people who know how to think in a structured manner. That is one of the keys to clean, fast, working code. If you can see the problem, and the solution, in your head, you're much more likely to code a clean, efficient, and maybe even clever way to solve it. Maybe one dosen't code in a coherent manner (jumping from thought to thought, here to there) but.. that dosen't mean it's unstructured.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
This silly idea that all software MUST be free, is a concept I'll never understand. Some programmers work their asses off to make a fine program, and they want to charge for it. To be honest, that is their prerogative, and their business.
The GPL is good for many things, and it has a very noble "spirit." But IMNSHO it's not the best idea. I'm not using the GPL even though I love the concept, because I want the users of my software to have OPTIONS.
One of the reasons the GPL is so unattractive is it restricts the users freedom in what they can do with the product, more so than the BSD liscense.
Maybe I'm just confused on my facts here, but I did a little homework and it seems that the GPL has several do-nots with derivative works. And twice now it's been called into question on slashdot about various holes.
Perhaps a revision is in order? Older releases can keep the old GPL, but newer releases can use the new "bug-free" GPL.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.