Comparing the world-beating Nazi military & engineering structure to some guys in caves who arguably aren't even an actual organization is lunacy.
But fine, let's use your "real war" coffins as a metric. U.S. military deaths in WWII: 416,800. U.S. military deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan combined: 4,409+2,200 = 6,609 (source: Wikipedia). Using the military GDP numbers from upthread, we have GDP-Percent-Per-Coffin values:
So by your "real war" measure, the GDP-Percent-Per-Coffin expenditure has risen over 7-fold since WWII. The post-9/11 military situation is like about 1/60th as significant as WWII by the coffins metric, and your equating of the two is comically outlandish.
"I increasingly question the value of teaching coding first... I'm suggesting that teaching kids to attack and exploit vulnerable systems first might be more valuable... And as you probably know, you need to learn some programming anyway to be an effective attacker."
Walls are a sign of a society in decline: Great Wall of China, Hadrian's Wall, Berlin Wall, etc. They say: "here was our high-water mark, then we were swept back out".
Probably silly to spend time replying to a stupid-ignorant-crazy fraudulent political troll, but here's a few points with citations:
- Republicans were not the party of Martin Luther King, Jr. He said: "I feel someone must remain in the position of non-alignment", and "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_luther_king). King was most closely related to the socialist and labor-union movements, saying, "Today Negroes want above all else to abolish poverty in their lives and in the lives of the white poor. This is the heart of their program... It is natural for Negroes to turn to the labor movement because it was the first and pioneer anti-poverty program." (http://www.aft.org/yourwork/tools4teachers/bhm/mlktalks.cfm)
- On Planned Parenthood: Every year they give out the Margaret Sanger Awards for "individuals of distinction in recognition of excellence and leadership in furthering reproductive health and reproductive rights". In the first year of its existence (1966), one of the recipients was -- Martin Luther King, Jr. With King delayed in Chicago, the award was accepted in person by his wife Coretta Scott King. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger_Awards)
- Organization and parties change over time. For a recent example, while it's true that David Duke (KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana State legislator) was originally a Democrat, in 1989 he switched to the Republican party and became a GOP party chairman in the state. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics) When President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he famously acknowledged that he was conceding the South away from Democrats for the next generation -- racists would have to switch over to the GOP to maintain their position thereafter. (http://www.economist.com/node/17467202)
There's a giant urban department store near me. The cashiers actually recognize me as the only customer who doesn't give his address info for a cash purchase. Teller I've never seen before the other day: "Zip code?" "I don't give that out." "Oh right, you're that guy."
It's like you've never heard of (a) inalienable rights, (b) computers that can scan as many signals as you need (irrespective of NSA staffing levels), or (c) unhinged prosecutors who take a personal disliking to someone and then dig up every piece of dirt they need to destroy them (as evidenced by the USA's beating every country in the history of the world on imprisonment numbers).
You don't need to be exciting. You can just be the wrong person in some local cop's or prosecutor's crosshairs, or the wrong address on a sloppy search warrant. It happens EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
This kind of argument re: "the person watching will be bored/frustrated" may have worked circa 1948, but nowadays computers can do the work. When there's something useful then the computer signals it. No muss, no fuss. I'm always stunned by how many people refuse to get into the 21st century with their thinking on this issue.
If parent is flamebait, then here's more -- For a truly depressing conversation, try out this Ben Franklin quote: "That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved."
"The thing that baffles me is not that people are willing to give up freedom if it 'helps fight terrorism,' it's that they believe what the government does in the name of fighting terrorism is working, when they don't believe anything else the federal government does is working."
That is a good point. But: Third article link points out this is a partisan issue (52% GOP, 64% Dems now support) -- so Dems mindlessly support it because their man is in office, while GOP tends to be hyper pro-police and military anyway (to expand the point that you made). So it's somewhat consistent in its insanity. Of course, absurdly, these numbers are flipped from seven years ago (75% GOP, 37% Dems), which is the most depressing and unprincipled thing of all to me.
Whatever you're basing your observations on, it's in a completely corrupt and fraudulent school system. I have never heard of these practices (especially #1, that's totally ludicrous) being applied anywhere. And #3 is simply flat-out not applicable to this test: the official story is that they are "raw scores" on a test that awards points in half-percent increments.
As I wrote above: That's actually the point of the article. The fact that they didn't change the download button will trick people into not knowing that the contents have changed. Namely: a bunch of trivial account details, but no wall post content.
That's contradicted both by (1) the "Accessing Your Facebook Info" page that currently says Your Posts are only available online and not in the Downloaded Info, and (2) the fact that the downloaded archive really doesn't include them anymore (see linked article on both points).
That's actually the point of the article. The fact that they didn't change the download button will trick people into not knowing that the contents have changed. Namely: a bunch of trivial stuff, but no wall post content.
"He's clearly committed a crime and the common sense thing here is to try him and convict him accordingly."
Well, in theory this is supposed to be the other way around -- you try him and convict him, then you get to say that he's clearly committed a crime.
I mean, law enforcement might be lying here. They haven't proven that he has child porn in a court of law. It's a convenient claim to try and get around the guy's rights. I agree that if they really have evidence they should go to court and prosecute based on that, and the fishing for more files doesn't pass a "common sense" test, so something sounds fraudulent or corrupt here.
I think the younger generation is shockingly conformist. They've been raised in an environment of constant phone contact, tracking, and surveillance. Head of security at the school where I teach proudly says, "We've instituted a policy of thousands of bag inspections, and only had 3 people dispute it, usually faculty." I have students come to me freaked out because I don't track their attendance daily every day in our college class. Etc., etc.
"There are plenty of reasons to strongly suspect that humans are somewhat monogamous - eg human males and females are around the same size - for various reasons, strongly polygamous species tend to have larger males, smaller females."
How is that size ratio different from the polygamous bonobos? Humans and bonobos both have about the same size between genders (among other similarities in sex organs). Perhaps you're thinking of gorillas that have a 2:1 size difference and a polygynous (alpha male mates with all females) nature.
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Comparing the world-beating Nazi military & engineering structure to some guys in caves who arguably aren't even an actual organization is lunacy.
But fine, let's use your "real war" coffins as a metric. U.S. military deaths in WWII: 416,800. U.S. military deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan combined: 4,409+2,200 = 6,609 (source: Wikipedia). Using the military GDP numbers from upthread, we have GDP-Percent-Per-Coffin values:
WWII -- 38/416800 = 0.00009
Post 9/11 -- 4.5/6609 = 0.00068
So by your "real war" measure, the GDP-Percent-Per-Coffin expenditure has risen over 7-fold since WWII. The post-9/11 military situation is like about 1/60th as significant as WWII by the coffins metric, and your equating of the two is comically outlandish.
To me, that does sound exactly like GP said.
"I want the brainwashing used against me to be highly effective."
"I increasingly question the value of teaching coding first... I'm suggesting that teaching kids to attack and exploit vulnerable systems first might be more valuable... And as you probably know, you need to learn some programming anyway to be an effective attacker."
Thank you for my morning logical contradiction.
Walls are a sign of a society in decline: Great Wall of China, Hadrian's Wall, Berlin Wall, etc. They say: "here was our high-water mark, then we were swept back out".
Which brings up what I was going to say -- people don't understand how computers work.
Isn't that what all the MBA's are trying to achieve these days?
Probably silly to spend time replying to a stupid-ignorant-crazy fraudulent political troll, but here's a few points with citations:
- Republicans were not the party of Martin Luther King, Jr. He said: "I feel someone must remain in the position of non-alignment", and "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_luther_king). King was most closely related to the socialist and labor-union movements, saying, "Today Negroes want above all else to abolish poverty in their lives and in the lives of the white poor. This is the heart of their program... It is natural for Negroes to turn to the labor movement because it was the first and pioneer anti-poverty program." (http://www.aft.org/yourwork/tools4teachers/bhm/mlktalks.cfm)
- On Planned Parenthood: Every year they give out the Margaret Sanger Awards for "individuals of distinction in recognition of excellence and leadership in furthering reproductive health and reproductive rights". In the first year of its existence (1966), one of the recipients was -- Martin Luther King, Jr. With King delayed in Chicago, the award was accepted in person by his wife Coretta Scott King. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger_Awards)
- Organization and parties change over time. For a recent example, while it's true that David Duke (KKK Grand Wizard and Louisiana State legislator) was originally a Democrat, in 1989 he switched to the Republican party and became a GOP party chairman in the state. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics) When President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he famously acknowledged that he was conceding the South away from Democrats for the next generation -- racists would have to switch over to the GOP to maintain their position thereafter. (http://www.economist.com/node/17467202)
There's a giant urban department store near me. The cashiers actually recognize me as the only customer who doesn't give his address info for a cash purchase. Teller I've never seen before the other day: "Zip code?" "I don't give that out." "Oh right, you're that guy."
And I commend you for your thorough and profound commitment to the anti-English crusade.
No, no, it's got to be FULL, HALF-EMPTY, EMPTY.
(and some more lower-case letters to dodge filter)
It's like you've never heard of (a) inalienable rights, (b) computers that can scan as many signals as you need (irrespective of NSA staffing levels), or (c) unhinged prosecutors who take a personal disliking to someone and then dig up every piece of dirt they need to destroy them (as evidenced by the USA's beating every country in the history of the world on imprisonment numbers).
You don't need to be exciting. You can just be the wrong person in some local cop's or prosecutor's crosshairs, or the wrong address on a sloppy search warrant. It happens EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
This kind of argument re: "the person watching will be bored/frustrated" may have worked circa 1948, but nowadays computers can do the work. When there's something useful then the computer signals it. No muss, no fuss. I'm always stunned by how many people refuse to get into the 21st century with their thinking on this issue.
"The US... can't even detain people without trail in the US."
NDAA-2013, signed into law the first of this year, says otherwise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/ndaa-obama-indefinite-detention_n_2402601.html
If parent is flamebait, then here's more -- For a truly depressing conversation, try out this Ben Franklin quote: "That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved."
"The thing that baffles me is not that people are willing to give up freedom if it 'helps fight terrorism,' it's that they believe what the government does in the name of fighting terrorism is working, when they don't believe anything else the federal government does is working."
That is a good point. But: Third article link points out this is a partisan issue (52% GOP, 64% Dems now support) -- so Dems mindlessly support it because their man is in office, while GOP tends to be hyper pro-police and military anyway (to expand the point that you made). So it's somewhat consistent in its insanity. Of course, absurdly, these numbers are flipped from seven years ago (75% GOP, 37% Dems), which is the most depressing and unprincipled thing of all to me.
That is the dumbest goddamn thing you can say about statistics.
Whatever you're basing your observations on, it's in a completely corrupt and fraudulent school system. I have never heard of these practices (especially #1, that's totally ludicrous) being applied anywhere. And #3 is simply flat-out not applicable to this test: the official story is that they are "raw scores" on a test that awards points in half-percent increments.
As I wrote above: That's actually the point of the article. The fact that they didn't change the download button will trick people into not knowing that the contents have changed. Namely: a bunch of trivial account details, but no wall post content.
That's contradicted both by (1) the "Accessing Your Facebook Info" page that currently says Your Posts are only available online and not in the Downloaded Info, and (2) the fact that the downloaded archive really doesn't include them anymore (see linked article on both points).
That's actually the point of the article. The fact that they didn't change the download button will trick people into not knowing that the contents have changed. Namely: a bunch of trivial stuff, but no wall post content.
"He's clearly committed a crime and the common sense thing here is to try him and convict him accordingly."
Well, in theory this is supposed to be the other way around -- you try him and convict him, then you get to say that he's clearly committed a crime.
I mean, law enforcement might be lying here. They haven't proven that he has child porn in a court of law. It's a convenient claim to try and get around the guy's rights. I agree that if they really have evidence they should go to court and prosecute based on that, and the fishing for more files doesn't pass a "common sense" test, so something sounds fraudulent or corrupt here.
I think the younger generation is shockingly conformist. They've been raised in an environment of constant phone contact, tracking, and surveillance. Head of security at the school where I teach proudly says, "We've instituted a policy of thousands of bag inspections, and only had 3 people dispute it, usually faculty." I have students come to me freaked out because I don't track their attendance daily every day in our college class. Etc., etc.
"There are plenty of reasons to strongly suspect that humans are somewhat monogamous - eg human males and females are around the same size - for various reasons, strongly polygamous species tend to have larger males, smaller females."
How is that size ratio different from the polygamous bonobos? Humans and bonobos both have about the same size between genders (among other similarities in sex organs). Perhaps you're thinking of gorillas that have a 2:1 size difference and a polygynous (alpha male mates with all females) nature.
So you support a society in which everyone is permanently miserable, because it serves to successfully perpetuate the permanently-miserable society.
Well, you're certainly not alone.