That wasn't the aim of the project. They don't want to replace Outlook/Exchange, they want to give an alternative for all the users that for one reason or another can't/won't/don't use Exchange.
eg there are a lot of small businesses and organisations that can't afford to install and/or manage Exchange.
The number of bits is a meaningless as counting the number of seats in a car, twice as many seats doesnt make a faster car. In fact it makes the car harder to design to be fast, so does 64bit processors.
It does let you transport people twice as fast though - although most trips will still end up being made with some empty seats.
I'll leave the car pooling analogy to someone else:)
The only place I've heard the term 'street furniture'* was in civil engineering to refer to road markers, cats-eyes, road paint etc. ie everything that went on after the top layer of seal and before the traffic.
* Although the term really was 'road furniture'. And is was just technical jargon for engineers to talk to other engineers about or to write as a category in a spec etc. Definately not as everyday language for the wider public.
But if you are suggesting it has the equivalent of Windows Update, in which a browser or other GUI app tells the user what security updates are required, and allows the user to download and install them in a point-and-click manner, then (a) I'll definitely be giving it another go, and (b) I am much more hopeful for Linux on the desktop. If you are referring to some command-line capability, than (a) may apply, but (b) won't.
Well you didn't mention a GUI just that it was free, easy to use and didn't need any manual choosing of downloads, compiling or manual restarting of services.
apt-get can tell you which packages need to be updated without upgrading them if you wish.
And although I haven't used them, there are graphical front ends to apt, so they might already be as easy as Windows Update. And if they aren't it wouldn't take much development because all the infrastructure is there and well tested.
And yes, I am familiar with Red Hat's GUI-bassed RHN service, but US$60/year for updates is a little steep. Nice, but steep.
I don't like the RHN. Even if it was free, you'd still have the hassles of registering and keeping your list of machines up to date. It also seemed slower than apt-get, and there was no local mirror in NZ (if I remember correctly) and we pay for nonlocal traffic here.
The one feature I like about Windows (& Mac OS) that I haven't seen in any Linux distribution yet is no cost, easy to install security patches. Windows Update, Critical Update Notification, and the like. Non-geeks aren't going to cope too well with, "download this patch, apply it, recompile, and restart the affected service (or reboot)."
You haven't heard of Debian have you?
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Don't you mean x86 OS independant rather than platform independant? As far as I'm aware it only works on PCs.
According to this article the most secure OS were SCO Unix, Mac OS and Tru 64
I would've thought that based on the number of reported vulnerabilities in the last year (ie the flawed evaluation in the article), Windows 3.1 could also be regarded as one of the most secure OSes.
MacOS (pre X) didn't have any services that listened on TCP/IP, and the other two don't have anybody trying to crack them anymore (or fix them for that matter).
Well I didn't know about the US, but it is out of copyright here (NZ). We 'only' have life + 50 yrs here - I think that's the copyright rules in most countries (don't quote me on that though).
There are copies of it on the web - I have seen an Aussie one around.
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Compare that to the difference between the mastif and any of those anoying 'pit' dogs (carried in the arm pit by little old ladies).
:)
Hehe I had visions of what a 'pit' bull would be like
Maybe that's how they'd get one in a china shop? (Score:-1, Lame)
Even man has only changed it's basic appearance, not it's over all function. Look how much more man has changed dogs.
Then again the dog was the first ever animal to be domesticated, and the cat was one of the last. Maybe that has something to do with it
The Romans used to say that you can't have freedom without slavery; a vastly different interpretation to today's, don't you think?
:)
Really, I thought it was Nine Inch Nails that said that. Oh well, you learn something new everyday
That wasn't the aim of the project. They don't want to replace Outlook/Exchange, they want to give an alternative for all the users that for one reason or another can't/won't/don't use Exchange.
eg there are a lot of small businesses and organisations that can't afford to install and/or manage Exchange.
its 75 degrees outside in december, anyone else have it better? i don't think so
Australia?
The number of bits is a meaningless as counting the number of seats in a car, twice as many seats doesnt make a faster car. In fact it makes the car harder to design to be fast, so does 64bit processors.
:)
It does let you transport people twice as fast though - although most trips will still end up being made with some empty seats.
I'll leave the car pooling analogy to someone else
You're talking about application level decentralisation there - which won't mean much if the centralised underlying IP network falls over.
You're correct, but irrelevant. Charles de Gaulle airport is in Paris which is in France.
Maybe they should just call it "Rosie". Now, that says FAT!
So that was what that old ACDC song was about - having a souped up Amiga!
The only place I've heard the term 'street furniture'* was in civil engineering to refer to road markers, cats-eyes, road paint etc. ie everything that went on after the top layer of seal and before the traffic.
* Although the term really was 'road furniture'. And is was just technical jargon for engineers to talk to other engineers about or to write as a category in a spec etc. Definately not as everyday language for the wider public.
Maybe, but it's the first time the insult "potty head" has made any sense to me.
I think they meant analog (or analogue) as in something that bears an analogy to something else, rather than the non-digital definition.
"This looks like a job for the boys"
"You'll never guess what i had to do"
"Um, drink some sick?"
"I'm coming to get you fellas!"
Sorry, couldn't resist. A masterpiece of modern cinema that was.
And why did they interview them?
Ummm, because it was the Sydney Morning Herald, and those two were the Australian representatives of KDE.
Maybe they wanted an article on local open source developers?
But if you are suggesting it has the equivalent of Windows Update, in which a browser or other GUI app tells the user what security updates are required, and allows the user to download and install them in a point-and-click manner, then (a) I'll definitely be giving it another go, and (b) I am much more hopeful for Linux on the desktop. If you are referring to some command-line capability, than (a) may apply, but (b) won't.
Well you didn't mention a GUI just that it was free, easy to use and didn't need any manual choosing of downloads, compiling or manual restarting of services.
apt-get can tell you which packages need to be updated without upgrading them if you wish.
And although I haven't used them, there are graphical front ends to apt, so they might already be as easy as Windows Update. And if they aren't it wouldn't take much development because all the infrastructure is there and well tested.
And yes, I am familiar with Red Hat's GUI-bassed RHN service, but US$60/year for updates is a little steep. Nice, but steep.
I don't like the RHN. Even if it was free, you'd still have the hassles of registering and keeping your list of machines up to date. It also seemed slower than apt-get, and there was no local mirror in NZ (if I remember correctly) and we pay for nonlocal traffic here.
The one feature I like about Windows (& Mac OS) that I haven't seen in any Linux distribution yet is no cost, easy to install security patches. Windows Update, Critical Update Notification, and the like. Non-geeks aren't going to cope too well with, "download this patch, apply it, recompile, and restart the affected service (or reboot)."
You haven't heard of Debian have you?
Don't you mean x86 OS independant rather than platform independant? As far as I'm aware it only works on PCs.
According to this article the most secure OS were SCO Unix, Mac OS and Tru 64
I would've thought that based on the number of reported vulnerabilities in the last year (ie the flawed evaluation in the article), Windows 3.1 could also be regarded as one of the most secure OSes.
MacOS (pre X) didn't have any services that listened on TCP/IP, and the other two don't have anybody trying to crack them anymore (or fix them for that matter).
Well I didn't know about the US, but it is out of copyright here (NZ). We 'only' have life + 50 yrs here - I think that's the copyright rules in most countries (don't quote me on that though).
There are copies of it on the web - I have seen an Aussie one around.
hehe, but seriously didn't the copyright on 1984 expire?
Good ... we'll have a miracle hybrid with the loyalty of a cat and the cleanliness of a dog!
If that's what you want, you may as well have children.
Well you're right, the average slashdot geek probably couldn't run from building 3 to building 4 anytime.
It's impossible to mix+match packages.
Not anymore...
I run a mixed testing/unstable system this way, and it works for me.
Wow, so the US arrests journalists who, y'know, break the law? Astounding.
What's your point? That's also why they arrest journalists in the worst countries eg North Korea etc.
I'm guessing not, which really surprises me, since I think W2K is pretty good (for an MS OS). : )
Hehe, I think they really peaked with W2K and it's all downhill from there. Oh well, they nearly made it.