If you read the CNN article, it mentions that they were the only "live" experiment to be recovered -- i.e. an experiment involving living organisms. I don't think that they were alive when they hit the ground -- the articles mentioned that they were sprayed with formaldehyde in space.
Wasn't it the moss that was sprayed with formaldehyde?
with Sun now supporting the Opteron, lending more legitimacy, it was only a matter of time before Microsoft jumped on the bandwagon.
You can't seriously believe that MS only announced this because Sun said "umm we might maybe support Opteron" a day earlier. Do you think it would only take them a couple of months to ready a port for beta?
MS has been working at porting and testing x86-64 for quite a while now, and making favorable comments (unofficially) but it wasn't certain whether industry politics might doom this port to obscurity.
Even though I'm not a MS fan, I see this as a good thing for everyone except Intel. If MS ignored the Opteron and later Athlon64, AMDs future would be very dim and competition would suffer.
Jackson had already lined up King Kong in the mid 90's, but the studio pulled the plug (temporarily) when the found out it would be coming out soon after Godzilla and thought there wasn't room for two classic monster movie remakes so close to each other.
King Kong was the film Jackson has dreamed of making since he was a kid.
Way to go Theo. I hope you realize you're indirectly assisting the U.S. military in perpetuatating American hegemony around the globe while killing thousands of innocents. Oh, but you live in Canada, I guess you don't have to worry about that...
Way to go DARPA, I hope you realise that you are funding foreigners to indirectly assist Terrorists by making their systems harder to crack by US intelligence agencies.
Sound ridiculous? I hope so.
Or: Way to go Theo, I hope you realise that you are indirectly assisting civil rights and human rights groups by making their systems harder to crack by corrupt dictatorships.
which is really interesting since bsd supposedly has this superior bsd license (superior over gpl) that is supposed to be more enticing busines-wise.
It depends on what business wants to do.
If they just want to use open source code in their own products, then they would prefer BSD licensed code. eg Microsoft complaining about academic code being GPL licensed.
If they want to open up their own code eg to help the community, foster goodwill or commodotise something, then they would prefer to choose the GPL license to stop their competitors stealing it for use in closed source apps. for instance Sun with Open Office.
OTOH who is going to try to make a go of AMD/64? For sure not any of the system vendors who have commited to IA64. That means no Dell, no IBM, no HP.
Don't you just mean HP? I was under the impression that IBM has dropped Itanium, and Dell has decided to just wait and see if it ever amounts to anything.
The article is complaining about how software keeps changing and the users need retraining to use it. How often has the Windows user interface changed in the last decade?
These users aren't complaining about the lack of visual appeal, they're complaining about change (aww the poor wee dears, my heart bleeds).
Although I wouldn't trust a journalists complaints - he probably wishes they still used typewriters.
DICE was my first attempt at learning C in the early 90s. I only got a few stages past hello world - I couldn't tell whether the compiling problems were my icompetence or DICE bugs (I think it was a very early version).
It wasn't long after that I decided that I wasn't cut out to be a C hacker:)
More exposure for SVG is good too. I hope we'll have good SVG support for webpages soon. Scalable images in webpages is something badly needed for a long time. SVG is not a perfect standard for scalable, but it's a first step.
I agree with you totally, but fear that you are too optimistic. IE can't even do PNG alpha transperancy yet, I'd hate to think how long it would take for native SVG support in IE.
And yes, I know the Acrobat plugin also bundles Adobe's SVG plugin these days, but how many web designers or users have even heard of SVG?
I agree, Debian and OpenBSD seem to be unique in the way that they care about the legality of what they are doing and how it matches their project goals.
They seem to put a high value on their 'customers' never running into legal issues, while other distros seem to care more about what they can get away with.
The biggest slow down in recent years was during a ban on movement in the farmlands due to Mad Cow Disease. A farmer was called and asked by an unknown caller if the ban had been lifted. The farmer informed the caller it had. A crop circle miraculously appeared the next day in his field.
Aha!!! That makes perfect sense now! The cows are in on it! First the Chicago Fire, now this!?!
The aliens are infiltrating diary farms and subverting bovine intelligence against us!
Being Certified doesn't mean you can do it. I once had an MCSE ask me what port Telnet ran on.
Isn't that a bit like a unix only admin not knowing what port MS Terminal Services works on?
For an average MS admin, not knowing the telnet port would have zero effect on their ability to do their job - it's effectively only general knowledge to them (like a unix admin knowing about MS stuff).
I'm not claiming they wouldn't be a closed minded moron, but it's not generally something they would have to know to do their job.
Too True, mechanics are no smarter because they display a certificate.
True, but they can presumably have their cert taken off them if they are shown to be incompetent or blatantly rip people off or do unsafe work etc etc.
The Safari BETA may be less full featured than IE, but when it ships with new Macs I have a feeling that it will be on par with IE, just much, much faster.
Could be, but apparently Apple are keen to keep it small, fast and light. I can't remember which article I read that in though:)
Actually, OSX was already shipping with a 'full featured' browser. Now it will drop IE and will ship with a stripped down 'less featured' browser (still a pretty good one though by the sounds of it).
I would've thought that by itself (ie greater incentive for the user to install a 3rd party browser) would be a blessing for Omniweb - hardly being cut off at the knees.
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If you read the CNN article, it mentions that they were the only "live" experiment to be recovered -- i.e. an experiment involving living organisms. I don't think that they were alive when they hit the ground -- the articles mentioned that they were sprayed with formaldehyde in space.
Wasn't it the moss that was sprayed with formaldehyde?
Aha!!
Who stood to lose the most to a Concorde competitor?
Nasty tricksey Frenchies!
(yes, I'm kidding)
You're making a mountain out of a yamhill
with Sun now supporting the Opteron, lending more legitimacy, it was only a matter of time before Microsoft jumped on the bandwagon.
You can't seriously believe that MS only announced this because Sun said "umm we might maybe support Opteron" a day earlier. Do you think it would only take them a couple of months to ready a port for beta?
MS has been working at porting and testing x86-64 for quite a while now, and making favorable comments (unofficially) but it wasn't certain whether industry politics might doom this port to obscurity.
Even though I'm not a MS fan, I see this as a good thing for everyone except Intel. If MS ignored the Opteron and later Athlon64, AMDs future would be very dim and competition would suffer.
Does the NT port to Alpha count as a 64 bit BSoD?
Nah, that was only a 32bit bit port.
Sadly, many will miss this Jonestown reference.
:)
More sad is how accurate you are.
Not that accurate really, I thought the kool-aid had been drunk long ago
Jackson had already lined up King Kong in the mid 90's, but the studio pulled the plug (temporarily) when the found out it would be coming out soon after Godzilla and thought there wasn't room for two classic monster movie remakes so close to each other.
King Kong was the film Jackson has dreamed of making since he was a kid.
Way to go Theo. I hope you realize you're indirectly assisting the U.S. military in perpetuatating American hegemony around the globe while killing thousands of innocents. Oh, but you live in Canada, I guess you don't have to worry about that...
Way to go DARPA, I hope you realise that you are funding foreigners to indirectly assist Terrorists by making their systems harder to crack by US intelligence agencies.
Sound ridiculous? I hope so.
Or: Way to go Theo, I hope you realise that you are indirectly assisting civil rights and human rights groups by making their systems harder to crack by corrupt dictatorships.
Come on NZ. Didn't you pay any attention to what happened with the "censorship" in Australia? It was a complete failure.
Any attempt to censor the internet, short of taking over every router on the border, is destined to fail.
Come on Slashdot. Didn't you pay any attention to what was in the articles? Or just the sensational headline?
The committee's report itself said the Australian law was a failure.
Sorry - late reply.
:)
Yep I happily ran SS2 on W2K after finding it in a bargain bin. I had to download an update from the net though.
And it is pretty scary
which is really interesting since bsd supposedly has this superior bsd license (superior over gpl) that is supposed to be more enticing busines-wise.
It depends on what business wants to do.
If they just want to use open source code in their own products, then they would prefer BSD licensed code. eg Microsoft complaining about academic code being GPL licensed.
If they want to open up their own code eg to help the community, foster goodwill or commodotise something, then they would prefer to choose the GPL license to stop their competitors stealing it for use in closed source apps. for instance Sun with Open Office.
OTOH who is going to try to make a go of AMD/64? For sure not any of the system vendors who have commited to IA64. That means no Dell, no IBM, no HP.
:)
Don't you just mean HP? I was under the impression that IBM has dropped Itanium, and Dell has decided to just wait and see if it ever amounts to anything.
I could be wrong though
If you hadn't "smelled something funny" what whould have happened?
I'm guessing it would've locked up/rebooted like other Athlons I've seen when the fan dies. They work fine again once the fan is replaced.
To even have the possibility of frying a cpu, the heatsink itself would have to fall off.
That wasn't his point.
The article is complaining about how software keeps changing and the users need retraining to use it. How often has the Windows user interface changed in the last decade?
These users aren't complaining about the lack of visual appeal, they're complaining about change (aww the poor wee dears, my heart bleeds).
Although I wouldn't trust a journalists complaints - he probably wishes they still used typewriters.
Oh memories...
:)
DICE was my first attempt at learning C in the early 90s. I only got a few stages past hello world - I couldn't tell whether the compiling problems were my icompetence or DICE bugs (I think it was a very early version).
It wasn't long after that I decided that I wasn't cut out to be a C hacker
More exposure for SVG is good too. I hope we'll have good SVG support for webpages soon. Scalable images in webpages is something badly needed for a long time. SVG is not a perfect standard for scalable, but it's a first step.
:)
I agree with you totally, but fear that you are too optimistic. IE can't even do PNG alpha transperancy yet, I'd hate to think how long it would take for native SVG support in IE.
And yes, I know the Acrobat plugin also bundles Adobe's SVG plugin these days, but how many web designers or users have even heard of SVG?
I hope I'm wrong though
I agree, Debian and OpenBSD seem to be unique in the way that they care about the legality of what they are doing and how it matches their project goals.
They seem to put a high value on their 'customers' never running into legal issues, while other distros seem to care more about what they can get away with.
Hehe, and if anybody thinks my spelling mistake (or mistakes?) has any bearing on the discussion - Sorry, I'm neither Australian nor American.
:)
Doh!
Why do you arrogantly assume that Americans are 50% dumber than Austrailans?
:)
1) after loosing 50% that would be twice as dumb, not 50% dumber.
2) they can't spell Australians
I'm just kidding - BTW extra apologies for blindly assuming you are American
The biggest slow down in recent years was during a ban on movement in the farmlands due to Mad Cow Disease. A farmer was called and asked by an unknown caller if the ban had been lifted. The farmer informed the caller it had. A crop circle miraculously appeared the next day in his field.
Aha!!! That makes perfect sense now! The cows are in on it! First the Chicago Fire, now this!?!
The aliens are infiltrating diary farms and subverting bovine intelligence against us!
Being Certified doesn't mean you can do it. I once had an MCSE ask me what port Telnet ran on.
Isn't that a bit like a unix only admin not knowing what port MS Terminal Services works on?
For an average MS admin, not knowing the telnet port would have zero effect on their ability to do their job - it's effectively only general knowledge to them (like a unix admin knowing about MS stuff).
I'm not claiming they wouldn't be a closed minded moron, but it's not generally something they would have to know to do their job.
Too True, mechanics are no smarter because they display a certificate.
True, but they can presumably have their cert taken off them if they are shown to be incompetent or blatantly rip people off or do unsafe work etc etc.
The Safari BETA may be less full featured than IE, but when it ships with new Macs I have a feeling that it will be on par with IE, just much, much faster.
:)
Could be, but apparently Apple are keen to keep it small, fast and light. I can't remember which article I read that in though
Actually, OSX was already shipping with a 'full featured' browser. Now it will drop IE and will ship with a stripped down 'less featured' browser (still a pretty good one though by the sounds of it).
I would've thought that by itself (ie greater incentive for the user to install a 3rd party browser) would be a blessing for Omniweb - hardly being cut off at the knees.
It's kind of like asking: My Hyundai Excell keeps breaking down and it won't haul 6 tons of gravel - what can I do to make it work?
The real sloution, ditch the Hyundai and get a Terex
That truck looks waaay overkill for 6 tons of gravel - and it wouldn't help at all if you needed to haul it on a public road.
Seems a bit like recommending Solaris, Irix or AIX as a general purpose desktop OS.