- ATI give specs
- an ATI Radeon Open source driver will be availlable soon
- ATI Radeon card are not far away from Geforce2 card in term of performance
are good arguments to not buy NVidia cards anymore
No. Because they use component.
That mean that *if* you have Mozilla,
you'll be able to browse the web using it
(in fact you're using a mozilla component using the mozilla rendering library to render web pages), as a component.
If you do not have it, it'll probably revert to gtkhtml which is a library used by a nautilus component.
For god sake, they are trying to do thing completly modular and that's nice...
For exemple, they avoid to directly link nautilus to gtkhtml but make a gtkhtml component :
this way you aren't dependant on it.
Nautilus is just dependant on standard gnome library...
We believe that NVidia, by not releasing a open source driver is a threat to:
Users
NVidia is harming their users, who are bound to only a subset of the
available programs and have no upgrade possibility if nvidia doesn't
want them to.
NVidia
NVidia is harming themselves, because their hardware will not work
any more when the software changes, unless nvidia is doing a lot of
work... this will cause people to avoid their hardware.
Security
By using closed source drivers you are at the mercy and unestablished trust of said software.
Hence you will never know what nasty code lies within these drivers and what could possibly be
exploited through said software. No one is able to understand how the driver work nor able audit the
driver for security purpose.
Stability
The past have given us the proof that kernel crashes are often related
to binary only drivers that no one can fix / audit.
Compatibility
Binary only drivers can not be ported to other architectures, or Unix operating systems.
Standards
The existing binary driver doesn't follow a developed standard ( DRI ).
GNU/Linux philosophy
In NVidia's efforts to gain market within the GNU/Linux community they have
underminded and devalued the users of their hardware by restricting the use
of the software that drives it, keeping it closed and off-limits to those who
only wish to improve the driver. Making the driver open source, making
it available for any user to look at/modify/and use would only push NVidia's
market in the GNU/Linux community and gain them face.
Why should _you_ the end user care ?
Quality
One of the over all goals is to walk away with a better driver for
NVidia's line of cards. As of now there is no way to improve the NVidia drivers
since there is no source, this is where we come in.
Freedom:
Last but certainly not least this is about freedom. If I buy a card from NVidia
I want to be able to look at, modify, and re-distribute the software that
drives it. I feel it is my right and yours.
Some will argue "But if the code is made available this will give other competitors
a chance
to gain on NVidia's market!".
We do not believe so. We feel this will only make for a better
driver, thus giving NVidia a better hold in the video card maket in the GNU/Linux community.
Bullshit. AMD memory bus kill the intel one. Don't forget that AMD memory bus is based on ev6 (alpha). http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q3/990809/athlon -20.html Athlon beat PIII in all benchmark.
Ok, let me explain (I'm the person from Mandrake Jay is talking about)...
Mandrake has its own security system, which was called Msec, and was renamed to Usec (Unix Security) because many people asked for Msec to not only work on Linux-Mandrake, but also on any kind of Unix system...
Msec was coded too quickly, it was a bunch of shell scripts, hardening your system security and doing some security check using a cron job; unfortunately, it was unmaintainable...
So Usec was coded with maintainability in mind, using two XML databases, one for security points (see questions, with predefined answer for default security level, etc etc ), and another database with defined actions for each answer to each questions...
All of that was coded in a library called libbus, that can be easily used by frontends.
Finally, Usec and Bastille-Linux decided to merge into one project called BUS ( Bastille Unix Security );
The point is that we keep all of the Usec stuff, excepted backend, and that we use the Bastille-Linux perl backend, which many people have put a lot of work in ( Bastille-Linux backend support, as an exemple, transaction, and any change can be backed out. )
All the Bastille-Linux security hardening point will be present in Bastille Unix Security, the security points just need to be rewriten in the XML databases (a lot is already done right now)
Ok, I'm using Gnome from the beginning ( cvs version 0.99.x ), it is true, that when 1.0.0 was launched, there was stability issue... however, today Gnome is fast and stable...
If you don't believe it, just try the unstable gnome version ( which are extremly stable )...
What i think is KDE look like windows, also, and it is probably related to QT : it is extremly slow, and it look really ugly.
And gnome use a newer architecture which made it far more evolutive than KDE.
Now just a hint, i've noticed that when gnome is used with enlightenment as a window manager, the memory that the X server use keep growing ( i've reached 60% on a machine with 128 Mb of ram )...
It doesn't occur with wm like sawmill, so if you want to experience a *fast* & light gnome, just have a try to the latest gnome tarball, with an other wm that enlightenment:)
what is going when american sue a french hacker ? -> French gov't collaborate. also, if the american gov't isn't agree with the judge decision ( exemple the hacker is relaxed and doesn't got anything ).
The american try to extrade it in their country in legal or *illegal* way...
so please don't say stupidity like that !
what is going when french sue an american hacker ? -> American gov't ignore it.
You should stop thinking that France is a small country with small technology : this is completly wrong, and even if they sue you, they do the same thing over you (spying ). Now i'm not sure this is for money purpose.
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The Prelude Hybrid IDS project is closed too...
Maybe sending us a bug report directly would be the right thing to do... ?
$20 is the price for a CD in France...
And France have a life level US...
:-(
Guess why everybody here use mp3...
Maybe the fact that ;
- ATI give specs
- an ATI Radeon Open source driver will be availlable soon
- ATI Radeon card are not far away from Geforce2 card in term of performance
are good arguments to not buy NVidia cards anymore
Maybe they should deposit a patent on neurons, then, they could sue all human being.
No. Because they use component.
That mean that *if* you have Mozilla,
you'll be able to browse the web using it
(in fact you're using a mozilla component using the mozilla rendering library to render web pages), as a component.
If you do not have it, it'll probably revert to gtkhtml which is a library used by a nautilus component.
For god sake, they are trying to do thing completly modular and that's nice...
For exemple, they avoid to directly link nautilus to gtkhtml but make a gtkhtml component :
this way you aren't dependant on it.
Nautilus is just dependant on standard gnome library...
So everybody here seem to complain without even trying the product...
> it looks as though Eazel, like many other interfaces, makes use of a single-window file browser.
[...]
There is a configuration options which permit you to use multiple windows.
Nautilus work fine with standard GNOME. Try then complain.
Users
NVidia is harming their users, who are bound to only a subset of the available programs and have no upgrade possibility if nvidia doesn't want them to.
NVidia
NVidia is harming themselves, because their hardware will not work any more when the software changes, unless nvidia is doing a lot of work ... this will cause people to avoid their hardware.
Security
By using closed source drivers you are at the mercy and unestablished trust of said software. Hence you will never know what nasty code lies within these drivers and what could possibly be exploited through said software. No one is able to understand how the driver work nor able audit the driver for security purpose.
Stability
The past have given us the proof that kernel crashes are often related to binary only drivers that no one can fix / audit.
Compatibility
Binary only drivers can not be ported to other architectures, or Unix operating systems.
Standards
The existing binary driver doesn't follow a developed standard ( DRI ).
GNU/Linux philosophy
In NVidia's efforts to gain market within the GNU/Linux community they have underminded and devalued the users of their hardware by restricting the use of the software that drives it, keeping it closed and off-limits to those who only wish to improve the driver. Making the driver open source, making it available for any user to look at/modify/and use would only push NVidia's market in the GNU/Linux community and gain them face.
Why should _you_ the end user care ?
One of the over all goals is to walk away with a better driver for NVidia's line of cards. As of now there is no way to improve the NVidia drivers since there is no source, this is where we come in.
Last but certainly not least this is about freedom. If I buy a card from NVidia I want to be able to look at, modify, and re-distribute the software that drives it. I feel it is my right and yours. Some will argue "But if the code is made available this will give other competitors a chance to gain on NVidia's market!". We do not believe so. We feel this will only make for a better driver, thus giving NVidia a better hold in the video card maket in the GNU/Linux community.
The only benchmark where P3 outperform athlon is in software (mostly games) that heavilly use SSE.
(Q3 for exemple).
But the difference is not that big.
They don't respect linux philosophy. That is bad. Hoping ATI Radeon will kick NVidia ass.
Bullshit. AMD memory bus kill the intel one. Don't forget that AMD memory bus is based on ev6 (alpha). http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q3/990809/athlon -20.html Athlon beat PIII in all benchmark.
You forgotten some issue here : What about NVidia not following the developed standard ( DRI is a good exemple ).
Ok, let me explain (I'm the person from Mandrake Jay is talking about)...
Mandrake has its own security system, which was called Msec, and was renamed to Usec (Unix Security) because many people asked for Msec to not only work on Linux-Mandrake, but also on any kind of Unix system...
Msec was coded too quickly, it was a bunch of shell scripts, hardening your system security and doing some security check using a cron job;
unfortunately, it was unmaintainable...
So Usec was coded with maintainability in mind,
using two XML databases, one for security points (see questions, with predefined answer for default security level, etc etc ), and another database with defined actions for each answer to each questions...
All of that was coded in a library called libbus,
that can be easily used by frontends.
Finally, Usec and Bastille-Linux decided to merge into one project called BUS ( Bastille Unix Security );
The point is that we keep all of the Usec stuff,
excepted backend, and that we use the Bastille-Linux perl backend, which many people have put a lot of work in ( Bastille-Linux backend support, as an exemple, transaction, and any change can be backed out. )
All the Bastille-Linux security hardening point will be present in Bastille Unix Security, the security points just need to be rewriten in the XML databases (a lot is already done right now)
> The Internet was invented by scientists and engineers in the US
No, by scientists and engineers around the world.
They don't have any authority.
US government is nothing in Europe.
Humm, it seem to me that the ka7 agp chipset Via Apollo Kx133 (VT8371) is currently unsupported by agpart.
Am i wrong ?
Solar designer patch only make your stack non executable which doesn't protect you against stack overflow.
Because you think artist are paid solding CD ?
You're completly wrong, artist are essentially paid with concert tour, and marketing business.
Ok,
:)
I'm using Gnome from the beginning ( cvs version 0.99.x ),
it is true, that when 1.0.0 was launched, there was stability issue... however, today Gnome is fast and stable...
If you don't believe it, just try the unstable gnome version ( which are extremly stable )...
What i think is KDE look like windows,
also, and it is probably related to QT :
it is extremly slow, and it look really ugly.
And gnome use a newer architecture which made it
far more evolutive than KDE.
Now just a hint,
i've noticed that when gnome is used with
enlightenment as a window manager, the memory
that the X server use keep growing ( i've reached
60% on a machine with 128 Mb of ram )...
It doesn't occur with wm like sawmill,
so if you want to experience a *fast* & light gnome, just have a try to the latest gnome tarball, with an other wm that enlightenment
Hypocrite are not us :
what is going when american sue a french hacker ?
-> French gov't collaborate.
also,
if the american gov't isn't agree with the judge
decision ( exemple the hacker is relaxed and doesn't got anything ).
The american try to extrade it in their country
in legal or *illegal* way...
so please don't say stupidity like that !
what is going when french sue an american hacker ?
-> American gov't ignore it.
French are maybe spying big american corp,
but they are probably not spying individual
as american do !
What is wrong in the report is that not only
corporation are listened by echelon,
but all communication private or not !
What is interesting is that all interesting american post get score 2 or 3
and that french interesting one get score 0...
not funny... this is hypocrisy
You never fight for yourself,
you fight for you state...
And they don't care if you want it or not.
You should stop thinking that France is a small country with small technology : this is completly wrong, and even if they sue you, they do the same thing over you (spying ). Now i'm not sure this is for money purpose.