This is the Aries from Celestix. The model linked has groupware apps, as well as file/web/Internet sharing. They make a few models. Some have embedded CheckPoint FW-1 (pricey). You can get a more basic config for about $700.00 USD.
But she's our fruitcake (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31, @01:26PM (#4990632)
She may be a few fries short of a happy meal, but on this issue she's on the right side.
If she's a fruitcake, make sure Anita Bryant doesn't hear about it!
All valid points, I am ready to conceed. I probably chose "luddite" poorly. I meant it in a social sense, rather than a technological one. I'm probably a bit off-base there too. People do not exist as strict categories - despite our best attempts to project ourselves as such on Slashdot!;-)
It is odd to me though, looking at this. I was one of those high-school students who was dismayed and outraged when the ERA failed to be ratified within the expiry provision.
But yeah, the Win32 command line is shocking. Try piping even two Borland GREP's together.
The NUL keyword doesn't function as a "Blackhole" for any kind of operation, like a *n?x device.
The culprit here is the same as your pipe. I/O is not mapped to files - but to generally arbitrary memory locations. Pipes work because of the stdout/stdin relationship to/dev/console, or equivalent. The CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM "device" is con. Where the hell is con? Fire up another prompt, it's in a different memory location. If there were some other useful unifying namespace in Windows systems instead of the filesystem, this could work. Unfortunately - there is not.
My understanding is that MS is trying to provide a clearing-house for accessing pluggable namespaces in.NET, via the clr. This is the worst of all! Particularly when the Win32 API is being promoted as a 'namespace' in this context.
O.K.,
The DOS shell syntax SUCKS. No ifs, ands, buts or apollogies. It's not much better than CPM/80 with directory recursion and crude pipes. And you think there are some people resistant to change!
Crap work in all Windows shell environments:
* Device access. What the hell IS the device name of the "2nd LAN Adaptor"? If it's PCMCIA? If there is also a 3rd? How does anyone ping from a specific interface, or sniff traffic from one?
* Equivalent of/dev/null. Essential for any shell-like environment.
* Variable handling, shell expansion/substitution, internal functions, library functions. Some of these shortcomings can be addressed by building your own extensive solutions, as.bat files. Sad. Even 4DOS and other CMD replacements miss this boat. Elementary parts of POSIX/ksh implementations. This is why MS systems shipped with BASIC for years.
* Brain-dead logical operations: conditional looping, etc. Chokes when variables are substituted in function-like context, etc.
* One word: MATH
I could go on in detail, but It's more painful than writing system scripts in csh...
Send to compressed folder to make a.zip file... why didn't I think of that, after all it makes so much sense!!
Not only that, the advice is misleading, and untrue. This will only use NTFS file-compression on the individual files. This does bear any of the hallmarks of a real compressed archive. It's definitely not a cross-platform unit with stored pathnames, etc. In fact, if you copy these individual files off onto other media, or send them by e-mail, they are in fact uncompressed.
The Arc Royal, England's answer to the Arc D'Triomph and the Brandenburg Gate! I think this was built according to the proportions specified by the Golden Mean - unlike the Golden Hinde, which was constructed according to Goedel's Mean.
Yep, I couldn't see a single instance of this being backed up by data. Its basically just a subjective article. What a bunch of trite!Yeah, but he's got a cross-section of an ear-canal! That ought to be good for, I dunno, 3 points or somethin'.
Do you think my parent's generation went all deaf because they were glued to A.M. radio, which distorted and dropped frequency ranges?
...you tipped your hand that you are not a US citizen. You have no rights in the US.
Where did you come up with this nugget of wisdom? Non-US citizens, at least while within US borders, are supposed to be extended the same rights and protections afforded citizens, with the exception of those rights afforded exclusively with citizenship - such as voting, serving in elected office and on juries, etc.
The Constitution and Declaration of Independance do not suppose rights because of fortuitous national origin, but because these are asserted to be the inalienable rights of mankind. It is this concept of rights afforded to all that made the US potentially more promising than other attempts to define what civilization means.
It is now this basic concept which is being callowly disregarded, as manifest in the suspension of habeus corpus, etc., that we have recently witnessed. These things are now so poorly cherished, and so carelessly transmitted by systems of news and education, that you are even in ignorance of them. These rights are not the ephemera of US nationality, they are its raison d'etre.
Every right and every respect denied someone because they are a foriegn national, is a right you, as an American, are being denied too...
Why is it that non-Americans are better informed and educated about the US than its own natives?
I think my firm is outsourcing this to a an "offshore," in Hyderabad...
We get better performance for the IT dollar this way.
Note to mods: This is not a troll. It is satirical and possibly unfunny, as it reflects a sad ironic observation about technology funding. A "troll" in the classic, USENET sense, is hallmarked by its intention and context - not by its content. A "troll" is successfull, because it is a perfectly acceptable message designed to provoke unacceptable attention or responses. Thanks for listening!
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This will be Bush science.
This is the Aries from Celestix. The model linked has groupware apps, as well as file/web/Internet sharing. They make a few models. Some have embedded CheckPoint FW-1 (pricey). You can get a more basic config for about $700.00 USD.
Where in Safeway do you work? :-)
All valid points, I am ready to conceed. I probably chose "luddite" poorly. I meant it in a social sense, rather than a technological one. I'm probably a bit off-base there too. People do not exist as strict categories - despite our best attempts to project ourselves as such on Slashdot! ;-)
It is odd to me though, looking at this. I was one of those high-school students who was dismayed and outraged when the ERA failed to be ratified within the expiry provision.
Bundled it with the long forgotten 123/G
When they say that politics makes strange bedfellows....
Phyllis Schlafly!!!!?
This is like Jerry Fallwell's buddies coming out on the side of small webcasters.
She's still a fundie luddite.
You make a great case against csh as a system shell.
I hope you didn't read my post as an endorsement of the practice! :-)
Link a cookies.txt file to the NUL keyword, during script runtime, while piping, looping, etc.
Feel free to research this. I can't bother.
The culprit here is the same as your pipe. I/O is not mapped to files - but to generally arbitrary memory locations. Pipes work because of the stdout/stdin relationship to /dev/console, or equivalent. The CMD.EXE or COMMAND.COM "device" is con. Where the hell is con? Fire up another prompt, it's in a different memory location. If there were some other useful unifying namespace in Windows systems instead of the filesystem, this could work. Unfortunately - there is not.
My understanding is that MS is trying to provide a clearing-house for accessing pluggable namespaces in .NET, via the clr. This is the worst of all! Particularly when the Win32 API is being promoted as a 'namespace' in this context.
Crap work in all Windows shell environments: /dev/null. Essential for any shell-like environment. .bat files. Sad. Even 4DOS and other CMD replacements miss this boat. Elementary parts of POSIX/ksh implementations. This is why MS systems shipped with BASIC for years.
* Device access. What the hell IS the device name of the "2nd LAN Adaptor"? If it's PCMCIA? If there is also a 3rd? How does anyone ping from a specific interface, or sniff traffic from one?
* Equivalent of
* Variable handling, shell expansion/substitution, internal functions, library functions. Some of these shortcomings can be addressed by building your own extensive solutions, as
* Brain-dead logical operations: conditional looping, etc. Chokes when variables are substituted in function-like context, etc.
* One word: MATH
I could go on in detail, but It's more painful than writing system scripts in csh...
No angles - very important! Even the cracks present a problem... Randolph Carter found out about this - the hard way.
The Arc Royal, England's answer to the Arc D'Triomph and the Brandenburg Gate! I think this was built according to the proportions specified by the Golden Mean - unlike the Golden Hinde, which was constructed according to Goedel's Mean.
Do you think my parent's generation went all deaf because they were glued to A.M. radio, which distorted and dropped frequency ranges?
Hell, youse ALL my friends!
Where did you come up with this nugget of wisdom? Non-US citizens, at least while within US borders, are supposed to be extended the same rights and protections afforded citizens, with the exception of those rights afforded exclusively with citizenship - such as voting, serving in elected office and on juries, etc.
The Constitution and Declaration of Independance do not suppose rights because of fortuitous national origin, but because these are asserted to be the inalienable rights of mankind. It is this concept of rights afforded to all that made the US potentially more promising than other attempts to define what civilization means.
It is now this basic concept which is being callowly disregarded, as manifest in the suspension of habeus corpus, etc., that we have recently witnessed. These things are now so poorly cherished, and so carelessly transmitted by systems of news and education, that you are even in ignorance of them. These rights are not the ephemera of US nationality, they are its raison d'etre.
Every right and every respect denied someone because they are a foriegn national, is a right you, as an American, are being denied too...
Why is it that non-Americans are better informed and educated about the US than its own natives?
Think hard. You know who betrayed you.
Amazing, my man!
You go for broad satire, with that closing-line giveaway.
Normally, this stuff turns into a flurry of refutational replies from the juniors who just didn't get it.
But you! You got 'em modding up to 5 Insightful!
There are trolls who dream of this kind of reaction... I'm marking you a friend.
"You may fire when ready, Gridley."
We get better performance for the IT dollar this way.
Note to mods:
This is not a troll. It is satirical and possibly unfunny, as it reflects a sad ironic observation about technology funding. A "troll" in the classic, USENET sense, is hallmarked by its intention and context - not by its content. A "troll" is successfull, because it is a perfectly acceptable message designed to provoke unacceptable attention or responses.
Thanks for listening!
We can have your equipment compliant with this simple, and nearly painless, compulsory surgical procedure!
What is the number 1 term, queryed by the Lycos search engine?
A:
"Google.com"
I think the science behind this smells pretty fishy, and the whole idea stinks!
Geez! I thought it was an expression of GLEE!
Watch the sourpusses mark this as a flame, or offtopic. They'll do it, practically on command. My suggestion? Lighten up a little, people!