... what do you think would happen if ET did exist, had a spaceship, was feeling a bit nefarious, and manifested itself as a booming voice from the sky? How hard do you think it would be for ET to convince the world's populations that it is in fact god (especially given the technological advantage), then instruct them to do whatever the hell it wants?
What makes you think this hasn't already happened?"
"Back on Earth, I used to go to a little tavern called the Z-80 Club. Programmers from the nearby industrial park usually gathered there after work. A few students like myself were tolerated, but expected to keep out of the way. One guy always came in at 4:30. He looks about 40 years old with long hair and clean shaven. He'd walk in and be treated like he owned the place and always sit the same little table in the corner. 'Who's he?' I asked after noticing all the deference people showed him. 'Assembly programmer.' is all they would say as if that explained it."
checks whether your new product name means like goat humper in a foreign language? Or is a trademark?
That wouldn't have helped the guy who came up with ISIS Wallet though...
... a pack of rats might just burrow into its hide and make a nest, instead of fleas it might have ferrets like creatures crawling over it and biting it to drink its blood.
Thanks a lot. Now I have to live with that image in my mind.
Like the majority of voters in Oregon, I have voted against sales tax here (several times). I feel very strongly about this but I would go for a sales tax that applied to purchases over $100 IF there was also an equal reduction in income tax.
Going back to the time I learned to program my TRS-80 to play the Afghanistan national anthem on the little relay switch and except for teachers, three or four people have ever looked at my code. Perhaps I take the 'person' in personal computing a bit too personally. But it only took a week of working for a soulless minion of orthodoxy to get me to quit. I'm good at it and I love it. I still know the joy of programming. Years later, the first time I wrote and executed code on a Linux machine, well let's just say I didn't need Viagra for three days.
None of this should be taken as advice in making important life decisions.
It's a wonderful place where I can operate all kinds of devices with my smartphone from wherever I happen to be. All kinds things like toasters, security systems, cars, nuclear power plants... oh wait.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say we will NEVER be able to explore/exploit/colonize space unless we do away with war. It's dangerous out there. Very dangerous. Even just a fistfight in the ISS could destroy the whole thing.
I would add:
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Time Enough For Love by Heinlein, Neuromancer trilogy by Gibson, Snow Crash by Stephenson and anything by Asimov, Benford and Clarke.
"Kiwis could have their names, addresses, dates of birth and phone numbers exposed by flaws in the Christchurch public transport system that could also allow locals to travel on buses for free."
So I get free rides on the bus and anyone can see my (fairly public) directory information... not such a bad deal.
As I may have mentioned in years past, I don't think judging AI or chatbots by how "human" they are is very useful.
For instance, one of the questions mentioned in the article was "Why am I tired after a long sleep?" A bot that wasn't trying to pretend to be a human could say "I have no need for sleep, but maybe your cache expired." Or make a crack about 'puny humans.'
I studied some of the software that prize winners have shared and found it very interesting, but the questions people actually ask are more valuable to me as a botmaker. If the humans looked beyond this artificial limit, while designing (and using) this technology, very interesting interactions can take place.
I'd like to see Loebner redefine the parameters. perhaps categories.
Best performance as a taxi driver.
Best bot for making you think.
Best for getting answers to homework questions.
Bot most likely to take over the world.
Which E-mail service would you rather use? The one from a sleazy convicted criminal, but with impenetrable security? Or the one from a company that always rifles through the contents, but promises to only do it for the better good?
I'm in the philosophical camp that there's no difference of any kind between a 'perfect model' and the 'real thing'. If we create a device starts displaying what appears to be free-will, self-awareness and consciousness by any reasonable test that we can come up with then from my point of view it HAS those things (to the same extent as anyone else anyway). If there's no test that can show it's not 'thinking' like a human, then we should treat it as if it is.
Or to put it another way, if you can't tell the difference, there is no difference.
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... what do you think would happen if ET did exist, had a spaceship, was feeling a bit nefarious, and manifested itself as a booming voice from the sky? How hard do you think it would be for ET to convince the world's populations that it is in fact god (especially given the technological advantage), then instruct them to do whatever the hell it wants?
What makes you think this hasn't already happened?"
"Back on Earth, I used to go to a little tavern called the Z-80 Club. Programmers from the nearby industrial park usually gathered there after work. A few students like myself were tolerated, but expected to keep out of the way. One guy always came in at 4:30. He looks about 40 years old with long hair and clean shaven. He'd walk in and be treated like he owned the place and always sit the same little table in the corner. 'Who's he?' I asked after noticing all the deference people showed him. 'Assembly programmer.' is all they would say as if that explained it."
Nothing will change until someone at the bribing company is personally held responsible and faces the danger of jail time
Nothing will change until stockholders are personally held responsible.
Going by the first line, I have to hope you're being sarcastic. Sadly, I hear people saying (and believing) such things nearly every day.
checks whether your new product name means like goat humper in a foreign language? Or is a trademark? That wouldn't have helped the guy who came up with ISIS Wallet though...
... a pack of rats might just burrow into its hide and make a nest, instead of fleas it might have ferrets like creatures crawling over it and biting it to drink its blood.
Thanks a lot. Now I have to live with that image in my mind.
Why do you think your homemade chatbot has the same problem?
Eliza... is that you?
My homemade chatbot has the same problem.
It seems to me a camera ilke would be useful for viewing things that happen very quickly, for instance, particle collisions in an atom smasher.
That's what my sister said. But I was thinking about Eli Wallace in Stargate Universe. I guess I have a more optimistic outlook.
Like the majority of voters in Oregon, I have voted against sales tax here (several times). I feel very strongly about this but I would go for a sales tax that applied to purchases over $100 IF there was also an equal reduction in income tax.
Going back to the time I learned to program my TRS-80 to play the Afghanistan national anthem on the little relay switch and except for teachers, three or four people have ever looked at my code. Perhaps I take the 'person' in personal computing a bit too personally. But it only took a week of working for a soulless minion of orthodoxy to get me to quit. I'm good at it and I love it. I still know the joy of programming. Years later, the first time I wrote and executed code on a Linux machine, well let's just say I didn't need Viagra for three days. None of this should be taken as advice in making important life decisions.
It's a wonderful place where I can operate all kinds of devices with my smartphone from wherever I happen to be. All kinds things like toasters, security systems, cars, nuclear power plants... oh wait.
Steve
See: exactly zero Fortune-500 companies headquartered in the City
You say this like it's a bad thing.
Steve
What? WHAT?
Steve
It was sign someone posted that read "Thank's for visiting. Now go home." I think the motto is: Northwest of Normal.
I would add:
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Time Enough For Love by Heinlein, Neuromancer trilogy by Gibson, Snow Crash by Stephenson and anything by Asimov, Benford and Clarke.
I don't much like Javascript, but I haven't taken the time to look Dart over.
I do think the word standard should be better standardized.
So I get free rides on the bus and anyone can see my (fairly public) directory information... not such a bad deal.
As I may have mentioned in years past, I don't think judging AI or chatbots by how "human" they are is very useful.
For instance, one of the questions mentioned in the article was "Why am I tired after a long sleep?" A bot that wasn't trying to pretend to be a human could say "I have no need for sleep, but maybe your cache expired." Or make a crack about 'puny humans.'
I studied some of the software that prize winners have shared and found it very interesting, but the questions people actually ask are more valuable to me as a botmaker. If the humans looked beyond this artificial limit, while designing (and using) this technology, very interesting interactions can take place. I'd like to see Loebner redefine the parameters. perhaps categories.
Best performance as a taxi driver.
Best bot for making you think.
Best for getting answers to homework questions.
Bot most likely to take over the world.
There's already plenty of humans.
I don;t read reviews much so I never came across this phenomenon before today. This is terrific. A whole new subgenra of literature is born.
Which E-mail service would you rather use? The one from a sleazy convicted criminal, but with impenetrable security? Or the one from a company that always rifles through the contents, but promises to only do it for the better good?
Neither. I suppose I could do without.
Or investing in either cryogenics or machine digitization of human consciousness.
Because without one of the two, its just plain not going to happen.
If it's any comfort to you. I'm working on the second.
I'm in the philosophical camp that there's no difference of any kind between a 'perfect model' and the 'real thing'. If we create a device starts displaying what appears to be free-will, self-awareness and consciousness by any reasonable test that we can come up with then from my point of view it HAS those things (to the same extent as anyone else anyway). If there's no test that can show it's not 'thinking' like a human, then we should treat it as if it is.
Or to put it another way, if you can't tell the difference, there is no difference.