This is an important sentimentality to reflect on. Banks and other businesses count on emotion and habit to keep our business even when their quality suffers. Does the BofA you see today reflect the values of Seafirst? Would your parents still recommend that you do business there? If you are feeling sentimental, frame your debit card after you close the account.
Many credit unions are part of the CU Service Center and share ATMs and even teller services. My CU is in Seattle and I have deposited checks at CUs in Minnesota. Not true for all CUs, but many are part of this system.
This is an excellent option with one exception. You become the guy that is never around because he is using his special time off, or the guy that never takes his time off. Also most accounting rules require that you book time off as a expense just as if they had paid you.
The telecommuting could work if you value that, but then you have the 'special' problem every week as opposed to every couple of months.
I would also consider doing some after hours consulting for the old company at a reasonable rate if it is short term.
Give them a rate 1.5 to 2X your new hourly rate (translated from your new jobs salary if needed). Otherwise you are working for less than it cost to keep you on. Also realize that this can turn into the long tail from hell and result in loss of that loyalty you value when (not if) there is a miscommunication in what you offered vs what they THINK you offered.
That's a very different circumstance. In your cases you weren't being loyal to a company but to a person who reciprocates, which is just good networking.
This is an important distinction. Organizations cannot return loyalty. People can. People who care about you will want what is best for you and not only think about the companies needs. Those people may work to keep you, but it is the people not the organization that make the effort.
Talk to your manager. If his/her first response is about the company and not about you, leave. You have made a simple attribution error in assuming extended proximity and a friendly work environment equates to loyalty.
If your manager's first response is about you then talk it out. Tell them why this is better for you. Communicate your concerns about asking for a counter-offer (well defined above). Most every day at a job is about the company, with the exception of when your paycheck arrives, when you get a raise or are disciplined, and days like this. If they cannot make an effort then you know where you stand.
Do not take this over your bosses head. If he/she is competent and cares/returns your loyalty, then he/she will do that for you. If not, then the senior managers you feel loyalty for have not filled their side of the implicit contract and anything you do will undermine your boss who you will have to work for afterwards. If you give notice and they go around your boss to try to keep you, then that is a problem too. I cannot cover every edge case, but you see where I am going.
Oh, and you are eminently replaceable. They may have to spend more money to get someone who can do your job (sometimes hiring two people to cover your duties). They may have to move deadlines or change scope on their project to get it out without you. If it is true that "You can't leave, the company will fail" then someone has not done basic risk mitigation and that isn't a company that will be around for you to be loyal to in a year. I have worked for companies that saw 100% turnover in developers and survived just fine.
Yeah, but if they notice (like when doing reference checks) they may not hire you if your resume is not completely honest. There was a guy I didn't hire because he led me to believe that he had been working for the last six months instead of job-hunting. If you are giving someone root/dba level access to your companies assets, do you want someone who is dishonest by omission?
If you examine the parallel to its logical conclusion this is kind of scary. Do you really want to allow political action groups (such as all officers of the Microsoft corporation) the opportunity to affect the election of the Open Source Commissioner? Part of the state-sponsored common good is to put it under the control and regulation of elected officials. This is not a win to my mind...
The software that is 'pirated' is from a UK company. Sen. Hatch is not interesting in protecting the rights of anyone but the big American companies that pay his bills...
...coders can refuse to write such code, its called quitting. The real problem is that prospective employers are not all that keen people who quit their jobs for reasons of personal ethics.
MS may have paid no income tax and their employees may have. That seems to me to be an irrelevant argument. GPL software generates no tax revenue and the people who write it have jobs and pay taxes. Are we going to make hobbies illegal because they do not generate tax revenue?
It all depends on what IT agreements and policies are out there. If the policy states "No install this list o' bad s**t" and they do it anyway, can 'em. If there is no stated policy and they can 'em, prepare the lawyers, there's a suit in them thar hills.
... for me is do they want MAPS to have better safeguards, a challenge process or to die on the vine? The first two are all right with me. If it is the last one I think I will start looking for Spamford and his old buddies under a rock nearby.
Thank you for a reasoned responce to a half thought out attack. This is the kind of information I would love to see more often. Until we as developers get a chance to discuss and study other peoples mistakes we shall forever live in the world of Software Artistry where personal opinion/pride and marketing goons get to set the standards we all get to live up to instead of the world of Software Engineering where an engineer says NO and a product stops on the line. Openness in source is important, especially for the entities that do not have bottomless pockets, but openness about our mistakes is more important so we don't repeat those mistakes.
Well....com.net and.edu domains would die... NetworkSolutions is in the US. And how much of the trans-oceanic cable is owned by US companies... No maintainance... It would suck.
It would be too long to wait for a proper betting pool, but any guesses as to how long it will be before they try this in space?
Also, by Newtons Third Law, shouldn't the source be pushed back as well? And what about conservation of momentum? If the photons have given up some of their velocity (momentum) does that mean they drop below the speed of light? How does this work?
I can understand this. In my previous life as a network admin some of the comments in configuration files were nuts at best. Not the sorta stuff I would want John Q. Public reading.
(Next on 'America's Funniest Code Comments', C.A. stays up until 5 in the morning, and...)
As far as T vs. DS numbers, the value of data is the same. A T-1 is a DS-1 provisioned on copper, as is a T-3. At one job, we started with six T-1, then moved to an OC-3 with two fractional DS-3's provisioned on it.
If I am not mistaken, a DS-3 is roughly equivalent to 28 DS-1's. A DS-1 is roughly equivalent to 24 DS-0's (64000 bps/ea)
I, for one, have never met any of the/. guys in person (they are all guys, right?), but when you read their comments every day you get to feel like you know them. CmdrTaco and Hemos and the rest of the Slashdot gang are the Net generation's version of Tom Brokaw or Larry King. I for one am pleased for Hemos and wish him and his the very best.
Congrats, Hemos! We don't want to see ANYTHING from you for about a week or two!
(God, if only we had known... We could have had a bachelor party online!)
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This is an important sentimentality to reflect on. Banks and other businesses count on emotion and habit to keep our business even when their quality suffers. Does the BofA you see today reflect the values of Seafirst? Would your parents still recommend that you do business there? If you are feeling sentimental, frame your debit card after you close the account.
Many credit unions are part of the CU Service Center and share ATMs and even teller services. My CU is in Seattle and I have deposited checks at CUs in Minnesota. Not true for all CUs, but many are part of this system.
This is an excellent option with one exception. You become the guy that is never around because he is using his special time off, or the guy that never takes his time off. Also most accounting rules require that you book time off as a expense just as if they had paid you.
The telecommuting could work if you value that, but then you have the 'special' problem every week as opposed to every couple of months.
Also, if you DO decide to leave and the old company can't fix their problems, offer to stick around longer than normal.
If they can't fix their problems then they probably are going to have problems paying you real quick.
I would also consider doing some after hours consulting for the old company at a reasonable rate if it is short term.
Give them a rate 1.5 to 2X your new hourly rate (translated from your new jobs salary if needed). Otherwise you are working for less than it cost to keep you on. Also realize that this can turn into the long tail from hell and result in loss of that loyalty you value when (not if) there is a miscommunication in what you offered vs what they THINK you offered.
That's a very different circumstance. In your cases you weren't being loyal to a company but to a person who reciprocates, which is just good networking.
This is an important distinction. Organizations cannot return loyalty. People can. People who care about you will want what is best for you and not only think about the companies needs. Those people may work to keep you, but it is the people not the organization that make the effort.
Talk to your manager. If his/her first response is about the company and not about you, leave. You have made a simple attribution error in assuming extended proximity and a friendly work environment equates to loyalty.
If your manager's first response is about you then talk it out. Tell them why this is better for you. Communicate your concerns about asking for a counter-offer (well defined above). Most every day at a job is about the company, with the exception of when your paycheck arrives, when you get a raise or are disciplined, and days like this. If they cannot make an effort then you know where you stand.
Do not take this over your bosses head. If he/she is competent and cares/returns your loyalty, then he/she will do that for you. If not, then the senior managers you feel loyalty for have not filled their side of the implicit contract and anything you do will undermine your boss who you will have to work for afterwards. If you give notice and they go around your boss to try to keep you, then that is a problem too. I cannot cover every edge case, but you see where I am going.
Oh, and you are eminently replaceable. They may have to spend more money to get someone who can do your job (sometimes hiring two people to cover your duties). They may have to move deadlines or change scope on their project to get it out without you. If it is true that "You can't leave, the company will fail" then someone has not done basic risk mitigation and that isn't a company that will be around for you to be loyal to in a year. I have worked for companies that saw 100% turnover in developers and survived just fine.
*Jobs holds up his fingers pinched together*
So the Force has a multitouch interface? Cool!
Yeah, but if they notice (like when doing reference checks) they may not hire you if your resume is not completely honest. There was a guy I didn't hire because he led me to believe that he had been working for the last six months instead of job-hunting. If you are giving someone root/dba level access to your companies assets, do you want someone who is dishonest by omission?
Or, more likely, Slashdot users are more suspect of spyware than Wikipedia.org users.
If you examine the parallel to its logical conclusion this is kind of scary. Do you really want to allow political action groups (such as all officers of the Microsoft corporation) the opportunity to affect the election of the Open Source Commissioner? Part of the state-sponsored common good is to put it under the control and regulation of elected officials. This is not a win to my mind...
The software that is 'pirated' is from a UK company. Sen. Hatch is not interesting in protecting the rights of anyone but the big American companies that pay his bills...
...coders can refuse to write such code, its called quitting. The real problem is that prospective employers are not all that keen people who quit their jobs for reasons of personal ethics.
MS may have paid no income tax and their employees may have. That seems to me to be an irrelevant argument. GPL software generates no tax revenue and the people who write it have jobs and pay taxes. Are we going to make hobbies illegal because they do not generate tax revenue?
It all depends on what IT agreements and policies are out there. If the policy states "No install this list o' bad s**t" and they do it anyway, can 'em. If there is no stated policy and they can 'em, prepare the lawyers, there's a suit in them thar hills.
... for me is do they want MAPS to have better safeguards, a challenge process or to die on the vine? The first two are all right with me. If it is the last one I think I will start looking for Spamford and his old buddies under a rock nearby.
Thank you for a reasoned responce to a half thought out attack. This is the kind of information I would love to see more often. Until we as developers get a chance to discuss and study other peoples mistakes we shall forever live in the world of Software Artistry where personal opinion/pride and marketing goons get to set the standards we all get to live up to instead of the world of Software Engineering where an engineer says NO and a product stops on the line. Openness in source is important, especially for the entities that do not have bottomless pockets, but openness about our mistakes is more important so we don't repeat those mistakes.
Well... .com .net and .edu domains would die... NetworkSolutions is in the US. And how much of the trans-oceanic cable is owned by US companies... No maintainance... It would suck.
It would be too long to wait for a proper betting pool, but any guesses as to how long it will be before they try this in space?
Also, by Newtons Third Law, shouldn't the source be pushed back as well? And what about conservation of momentum? If the photons have given up some of their velocity (momentum) does that mean they drop below the speed of light? How does this work?
I can understand this. In my previous life as a network admin some of the comments in configuration files were nuts at best. Not the sorta stuff I would want John Q. Public reading.
(Next on 'America's Funniest Code Comments', C.A. stays up until 5 in the morning, and...)
Are you kidding? Read the text carefully... This is a subtle plug for Gore. All the things Gore has done, and just before the election. Hmmm...
As far as T vs. DS numbers, the value of data is the same. A T-1 is a DS-1 provisioned on copper, as is a T-3. At one job, we started with six T-1, then moved to an OC-3 with two fractional DS-3's provisioned on it.
If I am not mistaken, a DS-3 is roughly equivalent to 28 DS-1's. A DS-1 is roughly equivalent to 24 DS-0's (64000 bps/ea)
Congrats, Hemos! We don't want to see ANYTHING from you for about a week or two!
(God, if only we had known... We could have had a bachelor party online!)