Up here in New England, Verizon will not let us ISPs oversell our bandwidth by a factor of 3X. If we try to adjust and it would run over, their system locks up and we can't proceed that way. (Well, see below for that to make more sense, in reference to Frame)
Actually, why dont I ask the slashdot crowd. I've asked three techs smarter than me the same question and I got a few different answers back. And the other people here might appreciate this info, as a search shows nothing yet.
T1s. How can you get them?
-ISDN PRI (Primary Rate ISDN)- this is 23 64 bit channels plus 1 64 bit controller channel, the delta channel I think. And the others are B (bearer?) channels. So B and D? (man I am going to get clobbered with a cluestick)
-Point to Point. This is straight copper from you to your endpoint. But how does the technology work? Is this the one that uses Time Division Multiplexing?
-Frame Relay. A packetized protocol running on layer 2, I think.. You get a line from you into a "frame cloud", which is an abstraction of the telephone company's network. Then your other end gets a similar line into the frame network. The phone company makes a Permanent Virtual Circuit (PVC) from you to them. A Data Link Connection Identifier (DLCI) on each end plus a circuit indentification defines a PVC (plus maybe some other stuff?) The bandwidth is shared! There's at least two settings- CIR and Burst. CIR is your Commited Information Rate- this is what you are PROMISED to get. Note this is just from the phone company. Your ISP can still screw you if they dont have the counterpart backbone bandwidth available. Burst is how fast the phone company will let your pipe flood through to when the network isn't busy... it's like a bonus. I believe both are negotiated. anyways Please please, would a telephone guru jump all over me and tear me apart? I'd love to get these straight.
Eh. Nah. There's no one at the machine to run back to crabbing that you didnt get what you wanted. I bet 99% of people will cool off and just forget about it by the time they feel like calling the company up and going through a process. The bigger things get, the worse customer service gets. I mean, why bother? If you're a little company, sure, begging for that last 10% of the scraps is what gets you ahead, but eventually its old hat, you have all the money you really need.. and you have your local monopoly... so who cares? Let em try and find something else to eat! I completely respect the path of least resistance. Thats why I say, if you're too dumb to use the vending machine in the first place, well... go hungry! It's a self solving problem, cause if too many dumb people die off, we'll have to start thinking about good customer service again!
I recommend movies.. They're never repeats, unless they're a sequel. Course, every "blockbuster" in the past 24 to 30 months has been a sequel. I am kind of kicking myself. I signed up for a sattelite dish, and the only thing I ever watch are those Trek reruns on TNN. (which apparently is nothing but season 1 and 2). The service is 40.00 a month, and I flip the tv off when its the inevitable uber-rerun (same episode that they played in the same time slot, same week). So I am paying about 4 dollars an episode a month, when it gets down to it. I was a fool for signing up, as they make you sign a 1 year contract- you can get pirate decoder cards that decode every channel, so they force the one year clause to make some of it back. Oh well. In about 400 dollars from now, I can redecide things. What, what a digression--
Movies are great cause they're long, but not often, no interruptions, unless you are bitter and calculate the 40+ minutes of CocaCola ads and movie previews... then you're right back to TV adverstising. Anyways... yeah. Go see movies. I dont care if they're MPAA or not, I'm not a zealot. For $4.50 an hour, watching 40 minutes of movie and 20 minutes of commercials is a great deal! w00t!
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This doesnt seem like a challenging game. The drunker you get, the easier it is to turn words into one syllable.
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Can anyone think of something more publically embarassing than this? Could you imagine the trip home with your friends after getting chewed out by Morpheus himself? "Free your mind, but not your weekend minutes"
I don't think that's a good attitude towards the problem. I'm all for learning new stuff, and even forcing people to learn new stuff, but if you're doing it so that you can stop using something that *works well* to save money, then you seriously need to re-evaulate your business. The people are where the bulk of the cost is. It doesnt make sense to me to take them out of their element to save on the smaller portion of the money. Using your programmer example, would you force your Java programers to redo all their code in C, just to enjoy the 100 dollars rebate special that month? Or 1000 dollars? Or 49% of what you pay them? Well I'm sure somewhere between a grand and half their salary is that magic point, but for a lot of applications, I think its just silly to take this route. Morale does have a dollar amount, when you get down to it. Maybe you can't calculate it, but pissing your graphic artists off to save a few bucks is just gonna get lost again via spite.
"the whiney creative people in production"... "recieve another outstanding performance award"
You don't explicitely say this, but I hope it wasn't a monetary award. If I were an artist at a company, I think I'd be livid beyond belief if the person who manages my machines got a little something-something for forcing me into using a different tool than I am most familiar with. Course, that recourse wouldn't be aimed at you directly, cause you're just doing your job, but it wouldn't stop me from being completely upset.
But seriously, can we mod this story down as Offtopic?
Because it's a difficult and laborous task to parse the subject line of each article for your own personal interest, or because you aren't aware that you aren't the center of the universe? In what way is this article offtopic?
no, no. you dont wanna just sneak a laptop into a network... sneak it into another computer! If i wanted to mess another netadmin up... i could hide a smaller, fanless computer inside a larger computer. Then I'd figure some clever way to conceal the ethernet cable i just tapped.:) Come on, it would take half of you at least an hour to figure that one out.
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I'm not trying to be snide, but cannot you just have your firewall send a 'rejected' packet instead of having it do a 'drop'?
Actually, why dont I ask the slashdot crowd. I've asked three techs smarter than me the same question and I got a few different answers back. And the other people here might appreciate this info, as a search shows nothing yet.
T1s. How can you get them?
-ISDN PRI (Primary Rate ISDN)- this is 23 64 bit channels plus 1 64 bit controller channel, the delta channel I think. And the others are B (bearer?) channels. So B and D? (man I am going to get clobbered with a cluestick)
-Point to Point. This is straight copper from you to your endpoint. But how does the technology work? Is this the one that uses Time Division Multiplexing?
-Frame Relay. A packetized protocol running on layer 2, I think.. You get a line from you into a "frame cloud", which is an abstraction of the telephone company's network. Then your other end gets a similar line into the frame network. The phone company makes a Permanent Virtual Circuit (PVC) from you to them. A Data Link Connection Identifier (DLCI) on each end plus a circuit indentification defines a PVC (plus maybe some other stuff?) The bandwidth is shared! There's at least two settings- CIR and Burst. CIR is your Commited Information Rate- this is what you are PROMISED to get. Note this is just from the phone company. Your ISP can still screw you if they dont have the counterpart backbone bandwidth available. Burst is how fast the phone company will let your pipe flood through to when the network isn't busy... it's like a bonus. I believe both are negotiated. anyways Please please, would a telephone guru jump all over me and tear me apart? I'd love to get these straight.
http://www.pootug.demon.co.uk/lusers.html
Eh. Nah. There's no one at the machine to run back to crabbing that you didnt get what you wanted. I bet 99% of people will cool off and just forget about it by the time they feel like calling the company up and going through a process. The bigger things get, the worse customer service gets. I mean, why bother? If you're a little company, sure, begging for that last 10% of the scraps is what gets you ahead, but eventually its old hat, you have all the money you really need.. and you have your local monopoly... so who cares? Let em try and find something else to eat! I completely respect the path of least resistance. Thats why I say, if you're too dumb to use the vending machine in the first place, well... go hungry! It's a self solving problem, cause if too many dumb people die off, we'll have to start thinking about good customer service again!
LOL!
Does one of your enemies earn your respect for defeating the other? If the RIAA had Verizon taken out, we'd still be jumping for joy :D
Just remember to keep the dollar in your junk drawer, not your wallet :D
They best be putting those giant "WARNING: Sunshine in use" sirens up everywhere they use this.. There's a reason we stay underground...
ebay wont let you sell body parts after some guy sold a kidney back a couple years ago.
nah, i'm just ribbing you. you are correct, class it a much better word.
*cough* The wearing them part.
That's absolutely disgusting. Course, I've been diagnosed with a serious case of tact.
Movies are great cause they're long, but not often, no interruptions, unless you are bitter and calculate the 40+ minutes of CocaCola ads and movie previews... then you're right back to TV adverstising. Anyways... yeah. Go see movies. I dont care if they're MPAA or not, I'm not a zealot. For $4.50 an hour, watching 40 minutes of movie and 20 minutes of commercials is a great deal! w00t!
This doesnt seem like a challenging game. The drunker you get, the easier it is to turn words into one syllable.
lynx slashdot.org --dump 2>/dev/null|grep haiku
lynx slashdot dot org
make all errors disappear
then grep for haiku
Can anyone think of something more publically embarassing than this? Could you imagine the trip home with your friends after getting chewed out by Morpheus himself? "Free your mind, but not your weekend minutes"
It sounds like you were done with it anyways...
Paul Graham on Fighting Spam:
Wham wham wham wham wham wham wham.
(its deeper than you think)
heh, you didnt even say that :-P how embarrasing for me
i think it would only just "stay there" if you snipped it twice, at the same moment, at equidistant spots from the center.
I don't think that's a good attitude towards the problem. I'm all for learning new stuff, and even forcing people to learn new stuff, but if you're doing it so that you can stop using something that *works well* to save money, then you seriously need to re-evaulate your business. The people are where the bulk of the cost is. It doesnt make sense to me to take them out of their element to save on the smaller portion of the money. Using your programmer example, would you force your Java programers to redo all their code in C, just to enjoy the 100 dollars rebate special that month? Or 1000 dollars? Or 49% of what you pay them? Well I'm sure somewhere between a grand and half their salary is that magic point, but for a lot of applications, I think its just silly to take this route. Morale does have a dollar amount, when you get down to it. Maybe you can't calculate it, but pissing your graphic artists off to save a few bucks is just gonna get lost again via spite.
You don't explicitely say this, but I hope it wasn't a monetary award. If I were an artist at a company, I think I'd be livid beyond belief if the person who manages my machines got a little something-something for forcing me into using a different tool than I am most familiar with. Course, that recourse wouldn't be aimed at you directly, cause you're just doing your job, but it wouldn't stop me from being completely upset.
Because it's a difficult and laborous task to parse the subject line of each article for your own personal interest, or because you aren't aware that you aren't the center of the universe? In what way is this article offtopic?
no, no. you dont wanna just sneak a laptop into a network... sneak it into another computer! If i wanted to mess another netadmin up... i could hide a smaller, fanless computer inside a larger computer. Then I'd figure some clever way to conceal the ethernet cable i just tapped. :) Come on, it would take half of you at least an hour to figure that one out.
Think we'll pay more for tcp packets than udp packets? 8 pennies for each 10 meg of TCP, but 5 for 10 meg of UDP?