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In Print: MegaTokyo

MartyJG writes "Freg Gallagher certainly has a talent for announcing things with a maximum of words - the summary of his latest rant on Megatokyo however, is that his webcomic is about to get a dead-tree hardcopy version produced by some nice people at Studio Ironcat. The first volume is going to be 120 pages, with additional off-line-only content. The announcement also includes a new webserver on order, and new merchandise soon to be available with the help of ThinkGeek. All the background on the announcement is in the current MT Piro rant and their very official-looking Press Release."

190 comments

  1. Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Except for Space Moose, that is.

    1. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Agreed.
      2. I move that Sexy Losers be included in that list.
      1. Seconded?
      2. What's another name for pirates treasure?

    2. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Parking Lot Is Full is also good.

    3. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this was just wrong.

    4. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point here

    6. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know too many people like this

    8. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      next on /.

    9. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    10. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    11. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The romans come back

    13. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    14. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw this in a movie once.

    15. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not an electric wheel chair, but the next best thing

    16. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    17. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    18. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    19. Re:Webcomics suck without exception by kpdvx · · Score: 0

      Ah, this one isnt too bad. http://www.tofustyle.com

      well, check the archives, they havent put up too many new comics lately.

  2. Just Kidding... here is my comment... by Critical_ · · Score: 1

    I just had to be a lamer just once. As for web comics, I am a huge fan. Not having access to dead-tree newspapers is often a problem in college. I regularly download and save such comics for adding to my collection. I'll be the buying myself the hardcopy version as soon as funds allow it.

  3. So, you saw... by stimpy · · Score: 1

    the part about the new web server, and had to give them a reason for it?

  4. Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skillz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Sorry, I don't mean this to come off as a flame, and I do love his artistic skills, but Gallagher cannot tell a story to save his life. Sure, he has his "Dead Piro" days, which, contrary to others, I love since it gives us a chance to see he scribbles. That is not my issue, though. For the time that the comic has been up (which has been something like over a year), Piro and Largo have managed to get stuck in Japan, get an apartment, and get a job. THAT IS IT! Please, if you are reading this Fred, dude, PICK UP THE PACE A LITTLE. It wouldn't be such an issue if the background story didn't have so much potential. Sorry, but I have to pass on the first book. Lots of pretty pictures, but no substance....

  5. Re:Karma Burn... by AlaskanUnderachiever · · Score: 1

    Don't you know? Haven't you seen the banners? Through the mastery of BannerAdTech (r) I will now forever associate ThinkGeek, SourceForge, and Megatokyo with Slashdot. . . JOIN US. . .

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  6. Megatokyo rant summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The following summary of pretty much every Megatokyo rant is courtesy of exploitation now:

    "Blah blah overworked blah blah couldn't get comic done blah I'm a terrible artist blah blah *whine* blah blah some damn new anime meant for twelve year old Japanese girls blah blah dating sim blah blah respecting my character's privacy blah blah- *Urk!*"

  7. I guess that explains something by jred · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been a Megatokyo fan for a bit, but here lately I've been seriously considering deleting the bookmark. I mean, I understand having a life other than the comic. I can handle the occasional DPD (dead piro day), or even DPW. But the comic seriously has not moved plotwise in months. It's gotten to the point of being ridiculous. Anyway, I guess that's what's been taking all his time away from the webcomic, he's been working on the dead-tree comic. More power to him. I won't follow along, though. I'll be reading Exploitation Now...

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    1. Re:I guess that explains something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (sarcasm)Oh yeah, 'cus E.N. gets updated every day without fail. (/sarcasm)

    2. Re:I guess that explains something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never understood the point of comics that feature a lack of any discernable plot and just aren't funny. You can do one or both, but not neither. What a waste of time.

    3. Re:I guess that explains something by cjpez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hm, well I'll disagree here, 'cause I think the plot's been moving along rather nicely as of late. Sure, last week was kind of a wash because he spent most of it preparing for / recovering from Otakon (or however that's spelled), and it's not like the occaional DPD or SGD strip is too painful. If it really does piss you off enough, why don't you just try out dailystrips, a wicked-cool perl script which'll go out and download all your favorite strips and present 'em all on a single HTML page for you. I read about twenty strips and it only takes me a minute or two each morning to go through 'em, because I only have to click on one link. And since it's Perl, it'll even run on those heathen Operating Systems out there. :)

    4. Re:I guess that explains something by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      What I've done is just move to checking it every couple of months, and found the comic much more enjoyable that way. I'm not sure when the comic hit mass and reached the progression level of Dark Shadows for me. Eventually though, week after week then month after month of things like the possibly vampire girl made reading the comic weekly more frustrating than enjoyable.

      I really like the idea of having this available in a collected paper version. That way people who enjoy slow progression can get their fix online, and easily frustrated people like myself can avoid it compleatly and simply buy the collected works.

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    5. Re:I guess that explains something by mstyne · · Score: 2

      I have to agree. I was an MT devotee for a while, but got tired of no new material. I realize I wasn't paying for it, didn't buy an t-shirts or anything... but I started reading MT because it was funny/interesting/fresh .. a few weeks of sketches and no story was enough to make me decide I wasn't into it. Penny Arcade on the other hand...

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    6. Re:I guess that explains something by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

      The ridiculous number of webcomics that miss their published schedule and make no attempt to make up for it YET still ask for donations reminds me alot of Dragon Tails which, I believe, hasn't missed an update (daily) in 3 years, and regularly (maybe once a month?) provides slashdot inspired jokes.

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    7. Re:I guess that explains something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering Peanuts, Family Circus, This Modern World and Dilbert, the point is to get syndicated in major newspapers.

    8. Re:I guess that explains something by CynicTheHedgehog · · Score: 2

      Great. Delete it. Piro doesn't need to hear your whining anyway. One less person accessing the server means faster access times for me.

      Seriously, I don't see how people find the nerve to complain about the frequency of updates on something someone is doing for free. It irritates me to no end, and I'm not even the target of criticism. Give it a rest.

      I wish you people would stop creating undue stress for webcomic artists like Piro. If you keep doing it they're going to pack it up and leave, which ruins it for people who don't mind taking 10 seconds out of their busy days to check for an update.

    9. Re:I guess that explains something by rizawbone · · Score: 1

      MT has never asked for donations.

      They always have a product or service you can buy to offset thier costs, but they never shove it down your throat.

      any time piro isn't on time with a comic, it's because he's taking care of his wife or full time job. i'd much rather him complete one strip a week then sacrafice his 'real life'.

    10. Re:I guess that explains something by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      How about just a link to your page? That would make it much easier for me.

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    11. Re:I guess that explains something by cjpez · · Score: 2

      Heh. Well, sure, here you go: http://thag/strips. But that's not going to do you much good, because it's behind a firewall you can't get through (or, I suppose, possibly you could if you could find some holes in security, but now we're getting silly). Also, the dailystrips author suggests that you don't put the strips up in any publicly-accessible format, as comic authors tend to get a little tetchy about people reproducing their work all over the place. :)

    12. Re:I guess that explains something by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Wow...thanks...I love when someone answers my request with a worthless link and mindless chatter. Yours is the most useful reply I've received on slashdot in months. Thanks for the link!

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    13. Re:I guess that explains something by cjpez · · Score: 2

      No less useful than a curt post saying, "No, actually I can't give you that link." Or would you like me to set it up on some random, public server just so that I can make your life easier for some reason? And we seem to have a different opinion of "mindless chatter." I thought the tidbit about not putting the strips on a public server had at least some bearing on the matter at hand. Whatever.

    14. Re:I guess that explains something by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Just giving back to you what you gave to me. GIGO.

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    15. Re:I guess that explains something by cjpez · · Score: 2

      Hm. Well, obviously we've got differing ideas as to what's garbage, then. Again, whatever. Just a discussion forum. Later . . .

  8. l33t by Jotham · · Score: 1

    ah they would get slashdotted during a filler comic. Here's one of my favorites that the slashdot crowd should appreciate
    #9 - speak l33t

    1. Re:l33t by JPriest · · Score: 1

      Did you know Google has a l337 H4x0r language for it's search engine?

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    2. Re:l33t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      congratulations, you're an idiot

      What did I win? Nevermind, that's it, I think I am going to change my name to bobo, take up a heavy addiction to crack, and start referring to myself in 3rd person from now on.

  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  10. Re:Karma Burn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're right. Anime, webcomics, and video games have nothing to do with nerds. You've been sold down the river. There's the door.

  11. Re:Karma Burn... by zaren · · Score: 2

    Well, beyond Megatokyo being in heavy rotation in the banner ads...

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  12. Cool by Com2Kid · · Score: 2

    I remember when Megatokyo was first opening, and I still on occasion listen to Kim Justice

    I have not read the comic in around a year, (I left off in the point where the dude was just starting to working in the store as a mascot) but from what I remember it was Kick Ass. :-D Just got bored waiting for the story line to come along, heh, I gotta check it out again one of these days before it goes titsup.com ^_^

    1. Re:Cool by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I think that something like two days or so have progressed in the storyline since then. It's like having a comic version of bullet time or something, I swear.

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    2. Re:Cool by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Weird, it was moving along pretty good at the start, strange. Oh well, did anybody ever read it for anything but a peak at the cute girls any ways? :-D Quite frankly I now just jump directly to the websites of Japanese Artists, saves me from the whole entire cultural intermediary thing. :-D

      Oh yes, and yaah! Cpt Kangarooski replied to me! I can remember reading your comments for years now! :-o Considering how long you have been around /. I am surprised that you have not taken up with the journal system yet, you could earn quite a following rather quickly.

    3. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a 5-star nimrod.

    4. Re:Cool by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I have (or could get) a following? That's got to be the weirdest thing I've heard today. I've got to say, I'm more than a little disturbed by it. ;)

      I suppose I may as well check out this journal thing, though I doubt that I'd be bothered to post to it. Partially because, kind of like Piro, I really am not that good at regularly updating things like that. But also because the reason I enjoy /. (and arstechnica, and macnn, and kuro5hin) for the discourse. I think I prefer to be the respondant rather than initiate something myself.

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    5. Re:Cool by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      Okay. Having poked around this journaling thing which I never even noticed was there before, I think I'll be staying away from it.

      Also now I guess I know what that 'neutral' thingummy is for. I had assumed it was a filter to get rid of posts by users that one considered to be one's enemies, but I couldn't imagine wanting to do such a thing. I mean, at the very least, what if they're right?

      I'm interested in talking about things, sure. But I'm not really enough of an, erm, exhibitionist, I guess, to want to talk about my day to the world, nor really enough of a voyeur to want to read about other people's, unless in either case if it somehow ties into something of more general interest. E.g. 'I had a crappy day going with someone to the INS office, why can't we fix the INS?' (I've seen a couple of threads like this before, and it came to mind as a good example)

      I suppose I could use it to catalogue glaring user interface deficiencies in everything as I encounter them (like Windows/IE not making the I-beam mouse cursor in this textarea box vanish so that it doesn't obscure text as I write it) but then I fear I'd wind up a) looking like kind of a bore b) spending far too much time on Slashdot.

      Hopefully this won't disappoint you.

      But -- provided that there are interesting threads and posts -- I'll continue to post generally, I'm sure.

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  13. Sweet! by Link-chan · · Score: 1

    I'm definitely getting the book when it comes out! I like Megatokyo very much.

  14. Dead trees? by evilviper · · Score: 3, Insightful
    a dead-tree hardcopy version
    Just once, just once I'd like to see a live tree hardcopy version of something.
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    1. Re:Dead trees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just once, just once I'd like to see a live tree hardcopy version of something.

      Enjoy!

    2. Re:Dead trees? by Kobal · · Score: 1

      Actually, with all this recycling, it's more and more dead toilet paper.

  15. this is frontpage /. news? by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok, does Megatokyo have that large of a following here @ /. ??

    Because amongst other webcomics:
    Goats Is currently at Comicon putting out a second book.
    Achewood is finishing up the polishing touches on a book.
    Cat and Girl has a book going out.
    As do a whole slew of others. Why don't they get mentioned??

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    1. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Com2Kid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have heard of Penny Arcade and PvPonline;

      Neither of which is nearly as adorable as MegaTokyo has been at times, nor nearly as empathetic to Nerds as a whole. I mean sure Penny Arcade is kick ass in a "Well FUCK them all!" kind of a way, but MegaTokyo captures the whole entire "Well gee that sucks" aspect of being a Nerd.

    2. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by JPriest · · Score: 1
      Com2Kid has posted 1413 comments.

      You really don't get out much do you?

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    3. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by limbostar · · Score: 1

      The Diesel Sweeties book (along with the second ExplodingDog book) is really just a pamphlet. Seriously, it's only 16 pages, 8 sheets stapled together. It's extremely professionally printed, but calling it a book is a bit much.

      I really like Diesel Sweeties (I did buy the book after all), but when I think 'book' I think of something that wouldn't flutter in the breeze and has a spine with the title printed on it. The Diesel Sweeties thing is more like a CD insert.

      The first ExplodingDog book was actually a book, and it's really nice. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes ExplodingDog. Hopefully rstevens will make a second book that's more expansive than the first.

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    4. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the one little part at the end of the announcement, that they're moving their shirt and merchandise sales from CafePress (which pretty much made that business) over to ThinkGeek (owned by OSDN, owners of Slashdot).

      So the announcement to /. fans was a marketing move, of course, hidden as a comic announcement.

    5. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1

      You've got to be kidding. com2kid's id number is about 150,000 which means its at least three years old. I have 331 comments over three years. You have that many in six months.

    6. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fucking Cockmonger
      not sure what that is, but I *do* hope it's better than being an asshat.
      fatass drug addict
      very wrong on both
      326 comments, lifeless fuck.
      here you make a point, I'm off to eat pudding in search of a life :P

    7. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, counting comments made as AC I am probably much closer to 500 or so....

    8. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      ? You mean besides biking ~6mi a day walking ~2-3 miles, spending at least 5-6 hours in one of the local forest reserves a week, going to college and working a job?

      Nope, don't get out much.

      I do type fast though. :-D

    9. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by BJH · · Score: 1

      You : UID 547211 / 326 comments.
      Me : UID 11355 / 1075 comments.

      Considering I've been reading /. since before there was any such thing as UIDs, I'd say you're the one who needs to get a life...

    10. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Com2Kid · · Score: 1


      You've got to be kidding. com2kid's id number is about 150,000 which means its at least three years old.


      I came aboard /. about the time Katz was rounding up his Hellmouth series, third or so episode.

    11. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Considering I've been reading /. since before there was any such thing as UIDs, I'd say you're the one who needs to get a life...

      I thought that portion of your comment was worthy of a second posting lol.

    12. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by BJH · · Score: 1

      Heh.... yeah, I guess that could be ironic.
      I would like to mention that, even though I've been here for some number of years, I do actually still have something that could be called a life.

    13. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I remember that. In fact, I only finally registered an account on the day when it was no longer possible to post without an account. But I'd been reading since before there were accounts at all. Gosh, it's hard to remember /. back in the days when people just typed in whatever handle they liked into the blank for it.

      Altus, who has an account somewhere in the 1000's IIRC was rooming with me at approximately the same time to give an indication of when we were reading here. (having been turned on to the site by the then-somewhat more accurate MacOS Rumors site)

      Oh well. Now there'll probably be a Chips 'N Dips era reader chiming in.

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    14. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by BJH · · Score: 1

      ...it was no longer possible to post without an account.

      I guess you mean, 'when it was no longer possible to post without an account, unless you wanted to post as an AC', but yeah. I chose to post as an AC for a while, and then caved in like the spineless weakling that I am.

      Help me to remember... when did CT and Hemos get their photos in Wired?

    15. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 1

      I guess I held out longer than you, but I remember all those goings ons too.

      I remember they got their photos in Wired (along with all the Taco looks like Crusher jokes), but I don't remember when.

    16. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5-star nimrod.

    17. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by alexburke · · Score: 1

      Goats Is currently at Comicon putting out a second book.

      Hah! You want me to click a link labelled "Goats"? Not bloody likely. ;)

    18. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a complete fag. What the fuck does how long you have been here have to do with the validity of an opinion? You elitist fascist totalitarian closet communist fucking pig. I resent your insinuation that your existence is somehow more significant due to your time on Slashdot. Fuck you. It's a baseless, ridiculous metric. Slashdot jumped the shark about the same time you got your fucking account, so piss off.

      Stupid Mongoloid fucking man bitch.

    19. Re:this is frontpage /. news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had mod points I'd be lobbing them at you ... Insightful

  16. Re:Karma Burn... by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But it does not look like "news for the nerds".

    I disagree. It may not be "news for linux geeks", but most of Megatokyo's fans are nerds. Thus, news regarding Megatokyo is "news for nerds".

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  17. Re:Lame by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    My name is Robert Claypool and I care about anime.
    My address is:
    417 S. Manning
    Munice IN.
    I await your judgment.

  18. Two thoughts on this by grungebox · · Score: 1
    First, I do commend Mr. Gallagher for trying (and perhaps successfully)making Megatokyo a profitable comic. Profit-making webcomics are VERY few and far between. The only other ones I can think of are (correct me if I'm wrong): Penny Arcade
    PVP
    and possibly 8-bit Theatre
    Numerous comics have print versions out, though. Aside from PVP and Penny Arcade above, GPF and I think Diesel Sweeties both have offline versions. So I ought congratulate Megatokyo.

    Secondly, I thought I could add to the list of worthwhile webcomics to read:
    Penny Arcade (above)
    Res Life
    Mac Hall
    Angst Technology
    Zeek V2.0
    I'll avoid the urge to shamelessly promote my own new comic :)

    1. Re:Two thoughts on this by Tralfamadorian · · Score: 1

      I'll avoid the urge to shamelessly promote my own new comic :)

      What's the URL?

    2. Re:Two thoughts on this by elmegil · · Score: 2
      Everyone seems to be missing:

      Bruno and Sexy Losers (talk about opposites) and User Friendly. Bruno in particular has several "dead trees" editions available at the moody cow cafe (link on page), and definitely tells a story better paced than MT (not to diss Piro too much, I like MT just fine). Chris Baldwin is a hella nice guy to boot.

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    3. Re:Two thoughts on this by Moonshadow · · Score: 2
      Everything Jake

      For the superhero in all of us.

      On a side note, first time I read Megatokyo, I came in on one of their "Nani Naze Megatokyo" days.

      Talk about confusing.

    4. Re:Two thoughts on this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you forgot Sluggy Freelance! Pete gets by quite well doing only the comic...

    5. Re:Two thoughts on this by cthulhubob · · Score: 2

      Slightly off-topic, does anybody know what's wrong with 8-bit Theatre? I haven't been able to reach it in months. :(

      I really liked it back when I could read it, but now I check it like once every three weeks and always "No response from www.nuklearpower.com". Very sad.

      Doesn't respond to pings or anything. If anybody knows what's up, could you let me know?

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  19. why complain? comic is free + cool! =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this comic rocks. it is FREE and it is cool. I sure will be buying the book. Call me a mark, whatever. He makes a cool comic. I like to read it.

  20. Re:Ahh, Megatokyo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's almost as if I note a hint of jealousy or bitterness. Nah, couldn't be.

  21. Not front page worthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like megatokyo, but the long winded rants of Piro are not worth the time. Slashdot, if you want to gain notary as a real news source, then stop patting your friends on the back.

    Its disappointing because this is such a blatient example of indirect advertising.

    1. Re:Not front page worthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would Slashdot need a notary? Sure, they're fun for signing wills and deeds and stuff, they're good to have around when buying a house.

      Maybe you meant notoriety?

  22. Megatokyo? Nah.... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I loved MT for ages, but recently it all went to hell IMHO when the "storyline" got too drawn out and some comics (those things between the "Dead Piro Days") weren't even funny, just part of a (boring) storyline which is the main storyline in any "respected" soap series on TV, namely; "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?". It gets old and tiring up to the point where even Largo isn't funny anymore. He's been ranting about zombies for month now in-comic and really, isn't it time for a change and go back to the small stories that actually oozed wit and humour?

    Sadly, I have seen this happening to other comics as well. Anyone remember GPF? (The comic, that is. Put down that Windows developer right now before you break something!) It used to be funny, I read it all the way from the start to the end and then religious started following it because it too had loads of simple jokes. Look at it right now, it's nothing but pure and utter online filth that ended up in a overdrawn B-moviesque storyline. And I'm not even going to mention the total irrelevance of MT to Slashdot or question why it ended up on the front page.

    And this is a call to comic artists: Notice the ARTIST bit. It means you can draw better then most of us, it doesn't mean that you can also think up of a decent storyline. Don't get illusions of grandeur, fooling yourself that you're capable of writing a novel in comic form. Thank you.

    Steps of his soapbox...

    1. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 1

      It might seem odd to reply to myself. Hell, it IS odd, but the first thing I saw after posting my comment is.... A Megatokyo advertisement/banner. This is a slight bit suspiscious to me. Someone been "donating" money to something perhaps or should I quit my fascination with conspiracies?

    2. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by The+Raven · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You said:
      just part of a (boring) storyline which is the main storyline in any "respected" soap series on TV, namely; "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?".
      Well, you're free to have that opinion. However, I would like to point out that Piro, and hence the storyline, are heavily influenced by Shoujo (sp!?) manga... ie, japanese girly comics. Like Love Hina. Which have plots VERY like Megatokyo. I happen to think they're cool... you don't. That's nice.

      But don't act all surprised about it... it's normal for the style of comic Piro is creating.

      As for its relevance... webcomics are a geek thing. Megatokyo is one of THE biggest webcomics, period. He is just as relevant as news about a new anime release by a popular anime director or something... it is news for nerds.
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    3. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Uthers · · Score: 1

      Though I have nothing against the manga-style plot Piro is employing, I think the main problem lately has been the way it's dragged. I'm somewhat interested in seeing what happens between Piro and Nanasawa, but with the infrequency of new comics and the lack of activity in a lot of them (ie. Piro and Nanasawa looking at each other pathetically while Largo rants about zombies) I wonder if the story will ever progress. I've been a fan of MT since day one, but and hopefully Piro will be able to get the pace of the comic back up. -Uther

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      -Uther
    4. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Love Hina is not shoujo at all.

      It's seinen manga, for older teens (generally college age people), and targeted towards men.

      Now then, I do think the original poster is being a little bit of an ass, as though he feels he is owed something by Piro.

      First off, his art is several times better (and larger) than many other webcomics out there. He's also trying to build up a larger story. If he could focus on it totally like the mangaka do in Japan (where they turn out a new chapter (15-25 pages) a WEEK, then maybe you'd have a lot more of a story. But since piro is limited to the time he has, and the resources available to him, there's not much that can be done.

      Personally I think the line now is great, and since it's been Piro alone, it's moved a _lot_ faster. Where you got this "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?" being the plotline from I haven't a damn clue.

      Maybe you need to stop watching cheapass daytime soaps with 50 year old cyclical plots and start exploring other stuff out there.

    5. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by BJH · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bzzzt! You lose...

      Love Hina is actually a shounen manga, aimed at young males between the ages of 12 and 18.

      Seinen manga would be series from magazines such as 'Young Magazine' or 'Young Jump'.

      (Clue: Love Hina is currently running in Shounen Magazine.)

    6. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuckwit. MT and OSDN trade banners. And quit whining, you asshole. If you can do better than Piro, go right ahead.

    7. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      japanese girly comics. Like Love Hina. Which have plots VERY like Megatokyo.

      Excuse me but the reason Love Hina was a success is because of the humor and not just the Shoujo part. At least Love Hina had some life and the storyline actually moved beyond the pace of "does... she... love... me? Why... am... I... so... shy? Why... do... people... think... I'm... a... pedophile?".

      My point is that Fred Gallagher tells a story like William Shatner. Slow, horrid, boring... I love the way he draws, and the early megatokyos were extremely cool because they had a little bit of humor in them, but lately I only catch up with the comic twice a month or so, while others like sluggy freelance get more of my attention.

      I'm so dogtired of hearing yet another fanboy exclaim that Megatokyo is the ultimate comic online. I... used... to... think... webcomics... were... supposed... to... be... a... little... more... content... rich... and not just about how well drawn art is.

      I'm a nerd/geek, and I like all sorts of anime, from I'm so depressed and I wish I was dead evangelion to look at me titties Mahoromatic, but when I read slashdot and I see yet again how Megatokyo is raised as an icon in webcomics because it's manga, and because it's supposed to be the mother of all webcomics... Face it, this isn't nerdnews, this has no place here. Which occasional reader of slashdot is going to order the book, if they haven't franticly reread every single comic online?

      I'm not dissing this mans work (except... for... the... pace... in... the... storyline...), nor his opinions, nor his dead art days (which I love too by the way), but I think that if slashdot links this because it's the mother of all webcomics (so to speak) we should start linking each and every webcomic ranging from Machall (which is btw, a lot more geek-oriented), to Tuesday. (which is completely ungeeky) And what about userfriendly? Or sluggy? Or Bad boys of computer science? Or... (the list goes on and on and on).

      To summarise what has happened so far in Megatokyo:

      • Piro and Largo go to E3
      • Piro takes Largo to Japan
      • Piro and Largo are stuck in Japan
      • Piro and Largo shack up with Tsubasa
      • They both stay there leeching Tsubasa
      • The stay there leeching some more of Tsubasa
      • Piro gives a railcard to Kimiko
      • Piro loses his bookbag in a bookshop
      • Yuki (a 15 yo girl) finds Piros bookbag
      • Yuki returns Piros bookbag and turns him into a pedophile in the publics eye
      • Tsubasa brings back ping, and leaves Japan away from the leeching Piro and Largo
      • Piro goes on a guilt-trip
      • Piro gets a job and meets Erika (who still hasn't kicked his you know whats)
      • Piro does more guilt-tripping
      • Largo goes even more insane when he meets a Zombie queen named Tohya
      • Piro is guilt-tripping over spaghetti and makes Kimiko think he's a pedophile
      • more undead driveling on Largos mental front lawn
      • Yuki wants drawing lessons, but Piro doesn't want to be a pedophile
      • Piro takes a long trip to a town called Guilt
      • Largo turns out to be mentally unstable (a trait often found in comic characters)
      • Piro turns out to be shy (well duh)
      • Kimiko thinks Piro's a pedophile (how long does it take to explain that you're living with a bloody robot???)
      • Dom and Ed arrive in Japan, get beat up by a droid named Ping
      • rabid squirrels take over Japan in attempt to stop Piro from actually becoming Lord of all fanboys
      OK, so that last one never happened. Note that unlike all the fanboys, I didn't browse through all the comics just to find the order things happened in (hell, I've been reading the comic nearly from the start), I just summed it up as it popped up in my head

      Now, most people (even shoujo-mangaka) take about a month or three worth of comics to sum up these events. Considdering Mr Gallagher has a busy job, family life, etc I'd say about six or seven months. But Piro takes up 70% of these comics either feeling sorry from himself, talking to his conscience (who's no longer funny btw), or banging his head against a counter for being called a pedophile by everyone in the comic except for Largo.

      In the meantime however, in sluggy freelance (not shoujo btw), everything turned upside down in only three months, and now the pieces are falling together. This comic is (compared to MT) a little more vintage, and never lost it's pace (except with the elves... no more elves... I beg of you), and suffers less Dead Artist days than Megatokyo. OK, so it doesn't have the artistic manga look, but it's a comic that's going somewhere (really insane)... Summarizing sluggy the way I did with MT would be madmans work.

      Can we now please stop with posting every rant Mr Gallagher has made on his site to slashdot? I'll surf to megatokyo.com if I want to read those.

    8. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love Hina is SO not even the slightest bit shoujo. Its 100% pure shounen. Just because its a "romantic" "comedy" (I find Love Hina to be neither, quite frankly) doesn't mean its aimed at girls.

    9. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Clue: Love Hina is currently running in Shounen Magazine.

      Clue: you have way too much free time on your hands... Get a job you bum!

    10. Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... by scrain · · Score: 2

      Well... Love Hina's actually been over for months... but you're right, it still ran in Shounen. =)

  23. Webcomics I read by jfedor · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Webcomics I read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about User Friendly. You know, if I look here, you get the feeling that a web comic should be funny, maybe just once, ever.

      User Friendly ain't it, dude. Never been funny. But it IS gayer than a submarine full of interior decorators.

    2. Re:Webcomics I read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read all the ones you mentioned.. Plus, I've recently discovered Ozy and Millie, which is my current favorite. Not really geeky, but it *is* a web comic. (Love the art...)

    3. Re:Webcomics I read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Open source interior decorators.

    4. Re:Webcomics I read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      www.dorktower.com

  24. Re:Lame by JPriest · · Score: 1

    And I didn't thin _anyone_ really liked those C.O.D. Elvis Presley plates you always see in TV guide.

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    Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
  25. I still like MegaTokyo... by DragonPup · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but since Largo basically left the comic, you can really feel the difference. I miss that drunken l33t d00d who can dance(I saw him dancing on the last day of Akon this year).

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    "Useless organic meatbag" -HK-47
    1. Re:I still like MegaTokyo... by darketernal · · Score: 1

      Well, he's not directly involved with the storyline anymore, but his character in the comic is still as drunk and trigger happy as ever. :)

    2. Re:I still like MegaTokyo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Well, he's not directly involved with the storyline anymore, but his character in the comic is still as drunk and trigger happy as ever. :)"

      It is not the same, it just isn't.

    3. Re:I still like MegaTokyo... by Harlockjds · · Score: 1

      Personally I was able to tell that largo had quit working on the comic a few months before the announcement came. And I agree it really hasn't been as entertaining since he left.

      On a related note I wonder if he will be getting any of the cash from this? it is chapter 0 which he was very involved with but he apparently has given up all rights to MT. We are talking about a man that nearly lost his job because he was hosting MT from work without their knowledge.

    4. Re:I still like MegaTokyo... by Rodney+L+Caston · · Score: 1

      Well, if you feel that way, I may be doing a new comic soon in that older style.

      -largo

  26. thinkgeek by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

    I checked all links, where is the Thinkgeek related stuff?

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    1. Re:thinkgeek by moonboy · · Score: 2



      "...and new merchandise soon to be available with the help of ThinkGeek."

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    2. Re:thinkgeek by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

      Does that mean Thinkgeek will be selling all the stuff? Or do they have different stuff from the previously available stuff? So anxious!

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    3. Re:thinkgeek by scrain · · Score: 2

      TG will have new stuff and remix version of the old stuff that was on Cafepress. And you'll be able to get shirts in colors other than white and grey. =)

  27. The internet is so old-skool! Try dead trees! by agent0range_ · · Score: 1

    Offline-only content? I remember, back in the day and when the internet was all new and shiny, people used to offer special online-only content. My, we seem to have come full circle, haven't we?

  28. Iron Cat = crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad all Iron Cat does is barely-dressed women. I mean, I know Fred likes to draw short skirts and all his female characters are...well equipped... ...but talk about publishers you -DON'T- want publishing your work.

    Also, aside from the fact that this is blatant story-for-ad-revinue material, what exactly was justification for this being a story?

    These kinds of stories should NOT be main-page material.

  29. Re:Ahh, Megatokyo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    8BT is a PARODY. Nor is he "profiting" from it either.

    You might as well cry foul on Mel Brooks.

  30. Dreaming Away. by The_Shadows · · Score: 2

    You mean you'll be reading Exploitation Now for a few more weeks or months, right? I mean, you can't be reading it for much longer. It's dying. Not in a bad way, but the fact is that as we're Dreaming Away in Act 4, Poe is Ending It All.

    I, personally, have been reading EN since practically the beginning. It's been impressive to see Poe's style evolve, along with the EN characters and storyline. I was actually saddened by ****'s (in case anyone decides to start reading, I won't spoil it for ya) murder last week. I know that I'll be sad to see EN go, but Poe is, so far, doing an excellent job at bringing about the end.

    I'll be one of the first to visit his new comic, Errant Story (domain already registered), when EN ends. I really hope that Poe puts all of EN into a book when the series ends. I'd be more than willing to lay down $20-$25 for a hardbacked EN collection.

    More OnTopic, Congrats to Piro. I'll be buying a MT book when it's released. I certainly can't complain about the $8.95 price. I still want Gabe and Tycho to make a PA Year Two book. While MT is decidedly excellent PA is, IMHO, the best web comic out there.

    1. Re:Dreaming Away. by neuromortis · · Score: 2, Informative

      No offense, but if you think PA is the best web comic out there you need to look around a bit. The art is good, but the jokes are usually pretty flat. Most of the humor comes from the rants. "Real Life", "Mac Hall", "It's Walky". . .they all top PA in jokes, and "It's Walky" and "Mac Hall" -- especially "Mac Hall" -- surpass it in art. (Though "Mac Hall" only updates twice a week.)

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    2. Re:Dreaming Away. by The_Shadows · · Score: 2

      Affirmative. I enjoy all three, as a matter of fact (and read too damn many others:). Real Life is very solid, the humor is wonderful. Greg's art style is Adobe Illustrator, and it's not amazing, but it get's the job done and is enjoyable. I'd like to see the occasional hand though.:) I think it's right up there with PA, and would love a RL book. It's Walky is great, but I don't care as much for Willis' art style as I do Gabe's. *shrugs*

      Mac Hall, OTOH, I agree, is better in both art and humor, but I was put off on it for a long time this year when it was updated once a week at best. I think it's great and all, and I appreciate all Ian does for it, but part of what I appreciate about PA is that without fail on MWF I get a new PA. I know Ian has the same problems that the rest of us do (like work and classes getting in the way), and I respect that, and I hope he can keep his new schedule into the next school year.

      And who said we don't count rants for humor? :-)

      I almost always save PA for last when I read comics (and follow the link off RL), because they both almost always brighten my day. Lately, I'm saving Exploitation Now for last, since it is wraping up and, as I said before, Poe is doing a spectacular job.

      Anyway, that's just my opinion(TM). You're entitled to your own, unless you live in China. Then you're part of the hive-mind. :)

      Later.

  31. Err. by hage · · Score: 1

    Megatokyo is a comic for nerds? What about Schlock Mercenary?

    As with most webcomics, it has started to go slack a bit, but a lot of it is top-notch.

  32. Re:If you lik by PipianJ · · Score: 1
    Two more for the slightly more anime-inclined:

    Strange Candy: Okashina Okashi
    Tsunami Channel

  33. At Otakon by Apreche · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    The longest line for any event were the Megatokyo Panels. The comic is seriously popular among anime fanboys who feel the same as Piro. Our art is superior! We can't get chix! Meanwhile all the people who weren't socially inept (i.e. the ones who didn't pay almost 2000$ for one megatokyo drawing) were at the www.dubthis.net party. party or wait in line to see a guy who can draw, party, guy who can draw, party... The only people who still like Megatokyo are fanboys. It's popular, because there are a lot of fanboys.

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    1. Re:At Otakon by scrain · · Score: 2

      The Dubthis party didn't have the beer and women of the Ninjaburger party. And well, if you'd seen how much alcohol was flowing at the midnight MT panel....

  34. I have to say by The_Shadows · · Score: 2

    I'm a big fan of MT, and congrats to Piro on the book.

    But seriously, can we mod this story down as Offtopic?

    1. Re:I have to say by digitalsushi · · Score: 2
      But seriously, can we mod this story down as Offtopic?

      Because it's a difficult and laborous task to parse the subject line of each article for your own personal interest, or because you aren't aware that you aren't the center of the universe? In what way is this article offtopic?

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    2. Re:I have to say by The_Shadows · · Score: 1

      That was poorly worded on my part, and I apologize. Maybe Nepotism would have been a better word.

      My point was that it strikes me that, as was brought up my others, many web comics that deal with "News for nerds, stuff that matters" like PA and PVP (gaming) have had books published, and no story on /.. Why does MT get special treatment? Because their banner occasionally runs uptop? Is it because MT is done in a more Anime style? Maybe I'll submit a story about Exploitation Now being about to end. Or when Poe announces that he's putting EN into a book. Odds it get's posted, though EN is an anime-style comic? Probably not great.

      I don't mind getting the announcement here, in fact it's nice to have it on my home page, but I just don't see why MT get's this kind of special treatment. That's all.

      For the record, the subject does personally interst me, and I am the center of the universe.

    3. Re:I have to say by scrain · · Score: 2

      Maybe no one submitted their release... =)

  35. head won't stop shaking. by RestiffBard · · Score: 2

    why is this news for nerds? um... cause. it just is. I wouldn't even know megatokyo existed but for slashdot. no one else notice that theres a webcomics slashbox? in it are PA and MT and many others. this is news for nerds. if slashdot posted a story about football then I would wonder what the hell was going on. as for the plot of MT. , it is his strip. and I've never known him to proclaim himself grand poobah of webcomics.

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    1. Re:head won't stop shaking. by vga_init · · Score: 0

      Well, in case you haven't noticed, MT is a very accurate embodiment of a generation of nerds/geeks/hackers and is to be taken as very serious news for people part of that generation (such as myself). I'm a big fan of MT and I'm very glad to see it in print.

  36. Support by McCart42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When this book comes out I think I will probably buy it. This and Penny Arcade are the two comics that, when intended to be funny, make me laugh on a consistent basis. And when not funny, Megatokyo is at least very good art. I'll admit the story isn't as fast-paced as many other webcomics, but this is a welcome change at times. I figure Fred needs the support and I appreciate his art...I would definitely like to see more manga webcomics.

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    "I may be quite wrong." - Socrates
  37. Re:If you lik by neuromortis · · Score: 1

    It's Walky - http://www.itswalky.com/
    FOG Club Adventure - http://fogclub.keenspace.com/
    Sinfest - http://www.sinfest.net/
    Ozy and Millie - http://www.ozyandmillie.org/
    Chopping Block - http://www.choppingblock.org/
    Diesel Sweeties - http://www.dieselsweeties.com/
    Help Desk - http://www.ubersoft.net/
    Nukees - http://www.nukees.com/
    Mac Hall - http://www.machall.com/

    One thing to remember about webcomics however is that it's often helpful to read them from the beginning. Since they aren't constrained by the paper they can afford to not do one-shots every day. Luckily most of them haven't been around for more than a year or three.

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    I build model citizens.
  38. Sorry, another rant by prototype27 · · Score: 0

    First, I would like to agree that this probably isn't front page news. Second, I'd also like to say that everyone has his or her own opinion, and that this is mine.

    That said, I personally have a great liking to MegaTokyo. Yes, the fan base is mostly fanboys/fangirls (myself included), but it does extremely well in that audience. The forums are packed, and there is a strong sense of community amongst the fans. It is a well-known saying that you can't please everyone, and I believe that this applies much more so to internet-related ventures. Fred Gallagher has done an excellent job of catering to his fans, and tries to keep as many people happy as he can, while still maintaining his sanity and controlling his creation.

    Though the Dead Piro Days and Shirt Guy Dom can get annoying sometimes, it is often just a short interlude so Fred can catch up with himself. The plot hasn't been moving very much recently, but it will eventually. Patience is the key here.

    Also, MegaTokyo is not meant to jump from one isolated gag to another. It is more akin to Japanese comics (manga) or "Graphic novels" (old-style comic books, like Superman, etc.), which tell a more definite story, but take much longer. It also tends to be a little sappier, and is not really geared towards what current American culture is used to. It follows a more relaxed pace, and there is *much* more plot than, say, Dilbert. Mind you, Dilbert is also an excellent comic, but it is in an entirely different class from MegaTokyo. It's like comparing a Sedan to an SUV. They focus on different things.

    As for storytelling, Fred was always more involved in long-term plots. Largo did participate in plot development, but he was better at shorter gags and mini-plots, IMO. If the plot in MegaTokyo rubs you the wrong way, then it does. That's just the way things are. Personally, I enjoy the plot, and find it very satisfying, as well as funny.

    Again, sorry about the rant. Just voicing my opinion.

  39. Too Little Time by Kenshin · · Score: 2

    Umm... why doesn't Piro, instead, put his efforts into ACTUALLY DOING HIS COMIC?

    In the past few months he's done maybe FIVE...

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    Does it make you happy you're so strange?

    1. Re:Too Little Time by grawk · · Score: 1

      Perhaps because it's his hobby? I'm sure if you made him a generous enough offer, he'd quit his day job, quit scrounging for ways to be able to afford to keep the website up, etc, and just work on the web comic.

  40. Faster story pace is not always better. by PsychoKick · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I LIKE the slower, meandering pace. I dislike comics that stuff each panel to the gills with exposition and word ballons, that insist on rushing the reader from one scene to another before they can properly enjoy it. Fred is basing his work on the Japanese manga style, and manga is generally slower paced and more visual than American comics anyway.

  41. Re:Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skill by JamesKPolk · · Score: 2

    Try reading it more often. The story picked up pace a *lot* right around the time Fred announced he'd be doing the comic solo.

    And in particular, Largo was morphed from a drunk weirdo back into an articulate, interesting character (with a cool thing!) that actually speaks to the other people around.

    I look forward to buying lots of Megatokyo in print.

  42. if you can't say anything nice... by cabbey · · Score: 2

    ...then just shut the fuck up.

    Just imagine if ungrateful assholes like you had as open a forum as /. (and the rest of the net in general) back in the days when Picaso, Shakespeare, and Mozart were getting started. Back then you had to be talented to get your words in front of the kind of masses the above tripe was subjected to. Look at any of the big names' really early work, most of it was crap, or at least not up to the level they latter attained. Fred has asperations twoard manga, and a page at a time, even the best manga isn't always funny. Go pickup a good one, pick any page at random and read it, just by itself. Now a couple days later, read the next page... wait a couple days and read another page. You'll very soon note that it's about the same pace as reading MT. If you can't handle that, then don't read the new strips every few days, wait a month or more and come read several of them at the same time.

    That's the whole point of the net, it's NOT as much of a meritocracy, you don't have to already be a master in order to put something out there, hell, as you've proven so very well, anyone that can string a sentence together (and even some that can't) can inflict their literary diarrhea on the unsuspecting masses.

    That you've not found the humour in the recent stories doesn't suprise me. Fortunately not all the readers of MT are at your level, and even more fortunately, Fred understands this.

    1. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by hage · · Score: 1

      Yeah, let's compare Megatokyo to . . . say, Mozart's Don Giovanni. Open mouth, insert foot?

    2. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by palo0019 · · Score: 1

      The internet didn't invent art critics. Read any art history book and you'll see that any great artist or movement was meant with disdain and loathing by the critical elite. Get over it, Picaso, Shakespear, and Mozart did!

    3. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 1
      ...then just shut the fuck up.

      Just imagine if ungrateful assholes like you had as open a forum as /. (and the rest of the net in general) back in the days when Picaso, Shakespeare, and Mozart were getting started. Back then you had to be talented to get your words in front of the kind of masses the above tripe was subjected to. Look at any of the big names' really early work, most of it was crap, or at least not up to the level they latter attained. Fred has asperations twoard manga, and a page at a time, even the best manga isn't always funny. Go pickup a good one, pick any page at random and read it, just by itself. Now a couple days later, read the next page... wait a couple days and read another page. You'll very soon note that it's about the same pace as reading MT. If you can't handle that, then don't read the new strips every few days, wait a month or more and come read several of them at the same time.

      That's the whole point of the net, it's NOT as much of a meritocracy, you don't have to already be a master in order to put something out there, hell, as you've proven so very well, anyone that can string a sentence together (and even some that can't) can inflict their literary diarrhea on the unsuspecting masses.

      That you've not found the humour in the recent stories doesn't suprise me. Fortunately not all the readers of MT are at your level, and even more fortunately, Fred understands this.
      Look ma, a hypocrite!

      Critics are nescesarry. We've got millions of critics who bother themselves with an equal ammount of topics and they are great. Why? Because they keep people on their toes and often the good critics can give you the critical advice you need to make things better. Now, you can listen to critics and try to improve things like they suggest, or you can just ignore them and do things like you want anyways. What would you choose? Would you ignore every bit of critique you receive or would you actually pay attention to serious critique and try to figure out why?

      Lastly, I'd just like to point out that it's just my huble opinion on MT, as I stated. If you are so far above me according to your own post, then why can't you realize the simple fact every person got his own opinion and that you should respect other people, hmm?

      That's a rhetorical question, don't asnwer it, please.
    4. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Back then you had to be talented to get your words in front of the kind of masses

      EUUUP... WRONG Back in those days you needed someone that would sponsor your work, and only then it would be open to critisism, as the rest of the unsponsored crap (which might just as easily have been art mind you) never even got looked upon.

      That's the whole point of the net, it's NOT as much of a meritocracy, you don't have to already be a master in order to put something out there, hell, as you've proven so very well, anyone that can string a sentence together (and even some that can't) can inflict their literary diarrhea on the unsuspecting masses.

      And here I was, thinking that the net, like most media, was just another media for communication. That's right, TCP/IP came to be so that ignorant twits could start websites... Impressive, but you're not a jedi yet

      Fortunately not all the readers of MT are at your level, and even more fortunately, Fred understands this.

      Piro reading a negative comment on his "m4d sk1llz" usually ends up blocking the comic for a week or two, or at least giving birth to a rant that says "whine whine whine... I'm not good enough... nag nag nag... I'm soooo overworked... blah blah blah... stop mailing me bad things, or I'll cry on you".

    5. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Open mouth, insert foot?

      Wow, art... quick quick... start a website and put up sporadic incoherent rants about how much work you have and how depressing life is since you can't "chill" with your friends anymore because your artsite is giving you so much extra work.

    6. Re:if you can't say anything nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with you.

      But fascist/communist totalitarian elitists who believe themselves to be special don't like to be subjected to peer review. They suck, they know it, and they use suppressive tactics to shelter themselves from rocks in glass houses.

      Like the man bitch editors of Slashdot. They can't handle the truth, so they IP ban, and use unlimited moderation points and hide themselves from the ugly truth, that is, that they suck.

      The attitude from elitists is this: The common man is too stupid to know what's good for them, we shall think for them. They cant stand they don't have broad appeal so the deprecate the intelligence of those whose shoulders they stand on. Pathetic.

      I had to write this from an alternate IP because of IP ban. Because the shit editors cant take it.



  43. Will the book be annotated? by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

    The main reason I don't read MegaTokyo, for all its fans and recommendations, is that I don't generally feel like translating "1337" to English. When 1337-speak shows up in the archive headings about half the time, it's probably a comic not worth my time.

    That said, I don't suppose the book is going to have translations? Or is that supposed to be what makes it funny?

    1. Re:Will the book be annotated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 1337 speak is rare, and typically restricted to a single character. and it's not even the heavy deep 1337 you would see on IRC or usenet.

    2. Re:Will the book be annotated? by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm, then maybe I'll give it a shot when I'm back at school and not on dial-up.

  44. Would be more official if it had... by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    The senseless--

    ####

    Which end EVERY press release it seems. (I dunno, there must be some method to the madness, maybe some ancient press software/hardware recognizes #### as the end of the story..)

    (This wasn't as funny as I'd thought it would be.)

    On a side note, I look forward to a hard copy of the comic-- I just recently began reading it, and have become quite impressed (the story just moves along a lot slower than I wish it would, heh). =)

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  45. I'll show it to you when we get back. . . by Aerog · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Okay, this'll be a fairly random ride today, and probably more than a fair share of ranting. Karma be damned, here goes. . .

    Webcomics do not suck, nor are they only for "geeks with no lives and losers". In fact, I'm finding that lately print comics are starting to suck. I rarely laugh anymore if I even bother to read the comics in the paper. Any AC who disagrees can get the balls to identify themselves or shut the hell up.

    Megatokyo is updated fairly regularly. I think Fred's doing the best he can manage what with working as much as he seems to do. Congratulations for making such a successful go of it this far, keep it up.

    I will be buying the book, as well as some merchandise, and I hope that many of the rest of the fans will as well. If MT has been nice enough not to go banner-happy or "beg for donations" as IIRC Fred said back in the day, then the least we could do is buy some stuff. 3v1l/l337 shirt? Sure!

    This is justifiably newsworthy, considering how many non-keenspot comics do something like this. It's news for nerds. How many nerds don't read at least one webcomic? How many don't read MT?

    MT has always had a fairly excellent storyline, and unless the latest comics were written before Rodney left, then you can't really say that it was funnier before he did leave. Lately, every comic with Largo in it has been, IMO, hilariously funny, especially the comic about his "special thing" that "does cool stuff". I'm still laughing at that one.

    If you don't like the update schedule, do what many people I know do and read it monthly.
    That's enough ranting for today, I'm here all week. Try the veal, it's delicious.

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    1. Re:I'll show it to you when we get back. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      calm down, get laid

    2. Re:I'll show it to you when we get back. . . by cthulhubob · · Score: 2

      I've hardly ever liked any print comics -- I read stories for the *plot*. Art is good, but it's a bonus, it's not the reason I buy a book. Why spend 3 to 5 dollars on a comic with 5 minutes worth of plot development when 6 dollars will get me a full-length paperback novel?

      I've been pleasantly surprised by two print comics though.

      First and foremost: Thieves and Kings by Mark Oakley (M'Oak). I give it 10 stars out of five :)
      Order the first four trade paperbacks from marsimports.com now now now!! (it's self-published, so give the guy your support!)
      The plot is *killer*. I especially like the fact that there's one or two pages in almost every issue that are text only (with a little bit of art around the edge), so you really get your money's worth in plot development. Especially when it's stuff that can't really be described well in comic format. (like one text block that goes into describing the background of a dragon to explain his psychological development. That would have suffered in comic form - it would have been like "just get back to the story!", but as a text insert it adds considerably to the flavor and impact of the character)

      Secondly... you've probably had other people recommend it to you already, but they're actually right in this case: Johnny the Homicidal Maniac by Jhonen Vasquez. It takes a little while to get into the main plot, but it creeps me out like an H.P. Lovecraft story when the doughboys start seriously talking and stuff. The advantage of this one is that the story is finished and you can buy it all in one trade paperback (the "Director's Cut").

      Looks like there'll be a third print comic I like once dead-tree-MT comes out ;)

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  46. Re:Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skill by Moridineas · · Score: 2

    I have to take exception with this--while the actual plot in each comic has perhaps covered more (they got to the beer garden--woo hoo), the rate of comics is still slow. And Largo has morphed from an interesting teacher to some stupid febrile 2-year old it seems to me, who just babbles about zombies and "cool things"

  47. Please, don't post. It makes you look stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Picasso, Shakespeare, and Mozart were actually talented, and succeeded in the face of much harsher critics (especially Shakespeare).

    Megatokyo is a boring strip done by a medicore artist who thinks he's also a writer.

    Slashdot links to MT on the front page for the same reason it links to Old Man Murray, The Filthy Critic, and Penny Arcade: To appear "hip".

  48. Re:Karma Burn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get on your airship, fag. Its not news at all. It doesnt matter, not one bit.

    Fuck head.

  49. Re:Karma Burn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck off you gay fag editor in disguise banner spraying marketing whore asshole. Ill kick the door in on your nose you fucking punk.

  50. Re:Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope the anthrax guy sends sometihng your way to put you out of your fucking miserable pathetic sexless existence.

    I hate anime, jerk off to something real. You defcav loving loser.

  51. DIE by LordDragonstar · · Score: 1

    You think webcomics other than MT suck? Well you can all just DIE (shameless plug for my wife's web comic)

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    1. Re:DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      her comic, in a word, sucks.

  52. Re:If you lik by myc · · Score: 2
    sinfest.

    nuff said.

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  53. Re:Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skill by _B_JOMAMANUP_S_ · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Back when the comic started Rodney wanted it to mostly be about zombies and carnage. Piro was the one that wanted it to be like a Love Hina. A happy medium was met.

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  54. Re:If you lik (Fuck 'nuff said' users) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I may or may not agree with you, but my disposition changes drastically when a snarky little shit uses the contraction, 'nuff. How about fuck off you little son of a wanton strumpet harlot prossie. Enough said?

    Fucking snarky little bitch contractions make me sick.

  55. Re:Ahh, Megatokyo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Now I laughed at that. That was fucking funny.
    "No fucking wonder "Largo" left in disgust and rants long windedly at how gay "Piro" is and how god damned preachy and utterly faggy that MT has become homph glomph like an octopus at the boner buffet.
    Of course we get modded into oblivion. Totalitarian fuck-heads cant take humor or criticism. DOOD get used to nothing, you Mother Fuck Tokyo assholes. I will shit on your web-comic. I will piss on it, make fnu of it, I have even written you and told you personally you suck. I will, along with my other "plebian" friend, not buy into your FUCKING bullshit shit online crap webcomix. You are a starving artist bunch of lunatic fucks. I hate MT. DIE!

  56. on/offline manga onslaught by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not just megatokyo, there is a lot of action lately with manga, and manga-style comics...

    http://www.raijincomics.com

    A new manga WEEKLY for the US! Pretty amazing, for a print version of manga to be released weekly to the US market.

    http://www.shonenjump.com

    A monthly magazine, like Raijin. Tons more manga coming to the shelves of bookstores and magazine racks near you.

    http://www.newtype-usa.com

    Just the most beautiful anime magazine EVER made, period... Manga insert in the middle of this baby.

    Also, Tokyopop comics announced a contest for US manga-style artists, with the winners appearing in a special anthology magazine later:

    http://tokyopop.com/news/mangatalent/index.php

    With all this, and megatokyo in print, it's an exciting time for manga fans, artists, and producers.

  57. Re:Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skill by Moridineas · · Score: 2

    I don't think so. For one, I believe in one of his diary entries Piro talks about how he had never heard of Love Hina before the comic was well underway. Secondly, more action occurrs on one page of the Love Hina manga than 3 weeks of MT.

  58. Another recommendation by Vlaize · · Score: 1

    This comic really has me hooked at the moment:

    Unicorn Jelly

    The comic is best described as a science-fiction/fantasy story, but that hardly scratches the surface of the alien physics that run the world, the believeable, well-fleshed out characters, and the just plain entertaining plot. Not to mention that it's drawn in a light-hearted, anime-influenced style. The fact that it is really obscure should also appeal to the average slashdotter. :) Read from the first strip, read the accompanying "Alternate Universe" strips, and I assure you that you will not be disappointed.

  59. Re:Ahh, Megatokyo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not like anyone will see this, since this story is about expired, but you spelled Otakon wrong, you buttwipe. Also you try and kill anyone at Otakon and the thing you call a head along with the rest of you will be slammed into a Federal 'bang-you-in-the-ass' Prison so fast you'll wonder why Bubba's dick wasn't surgically attached in your ass in the first place.

    Or we could find you. . . and make you wish you were in prison.

  60. Re:Ahh, Megatokyo by fallen1 · · Score: 1
    Wow! I'd have to say that with that much rage our Anonymous Coward needs some quiet time ... and thorazine. Plus the desire to spellcheck. Maybe a punching bag as an outlet.

    To put in MTS (my two cents), MegaTokyo is a great webcomic and yes, the plot is taking a little while to unfold but if it didn't you'd all bitch (those who are bitching) about "no character development" or some such shite. Either you like the comic or you don't. End of story. Critique it if you must but get over the "NERD MAD, BASH TOPIC" syndrome.

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