Yeah - I'm always baffled, amused and a little bit sad to see how Yanks are so willing to rush into defense of their corporations committing "legalized tax fraud" against them. Instead of talking about what taxes they should be paying or not here in Europe, maybe they should focus on why the taxes of US company are being paid not-USA-land.
To my understanding the point of unlimited data is to have unlimited data. Besides you don't need HD for video calls, let alone plain voice calls via internet.
And unless their outdated, any video service today probably defaults to maximum resolution of the device. However not necessary of the device that connects to ISP, it may also be a tablet, laptop or even desktop PC that's using wi-fi hotspot shared from the phone. In fact I'm currently connecting that way from home too - unfortunately that means I have no connection at home when I'm not there, which means I can't connect home remotely, but lately I've had no need for that anyway. I'm not from US though - around here this kind of use is not even questioned. You pay for the data rate and you use it however you wish.
I'm not expecting you're willing to explain what is it about this small group, which you're correct to say the ISP doesn't likely even care about, that makes them dorks? And that, if you don't get it, was a rhetorical question, as you already associated circumventing an artificial limitation with illogical anti-social vandalism, without any logical connection whatsoever. Oh, and also doing it as AC.
The problem is that nobody understands what net neutrality actually is and they get distracted by "free" stuff that takes away their FREEdom.
Sorry, but could you explain what exactly is it you are referring to with 'distracted by "free" stuff that takes away their FREEdom'? Please understand I'm only asking because I'm not sure I understand and I don't mean anything else by it. I'm not like many people who act and feel like they got it right even when they 1st had to come up with something that the other person "might have meant":)
For mobile phones, the BTS's are very rare, so you share it with many people. Its totally different for cable bound internet. Or even wifi that then goes over cables again for that matter. There is a technical argument in throttling videos.
So I completely agree with them doing this. Maybe they should throttle all traffic, and not just videos, because its probably hard to decide what is video and what is not from the ISP perspective (except its unencrypted).
I've noticed mobile phone apps (whether it's browser, app for specific video site or video generic video player) to pretty much limit the maximum resolution (where possible - boy this kind of throttling must be annoying when the site/service doesn't serve but one resolution, and that resolution is HD) to what the device is actually capable, but not all mobile devices or even just phones (and yes, a tablet with SIM - or any other means for calls/sms/data on mobile network - are phones by definition, although even if tables are not counted it's still true) are below HD, let alone limited to just 480p. IMHO, a data plan, just like any other type of connection deal with ISP is priced by either amount of data or transfer rate; or both. Any limitations by protocol, data type, etc. aren't compatible with how I understand net neutrality - and no, I don't consider net neutrality to be just about those hosting data but also (and in fact first-most about consumer rights).
I'd be pretty pissed (although routing my data through ssh-pipe to proxy server would be trivial to me) even though my mobile devices are all 480p or less, but then I use my phone as wi-fi hotspot at home to provide connectivity for all my computers... but I'm guessing that in the US just having a data plan doesn't automatically mean you're even allowed to share the connection - It's so much simpler when what you're buying is simply connectivity, plain and simple, and what you do with the connectivity is up to you. Anything else, for me, is horseshit.
After a year or more of taking break from slashdot it's kinda funny, though also sad, to see in the very first thread that nothings changed in the way how large number of yanks always willing and eager to defend large corporations right to kick them in the face and surprise bearfuck them:P
I pay 29.90€ a month, and this is prepaid (=more expensive), for unlimited calls/sms/data (4G) - and that means unlimited. Although the speed rarely measures as said 50mbps, it's still mostly fairly good (generally over 30, usually almost 40 & always over 25mbps).
Firefox is the slowest, least memory efficient browser out there. It regularly breaks several GB of memory after only a day's use. In fact, Firefox is already up to nearly 3GB of memory use, which is somewhat worrying for a 32-bit process. Looks like I'm going to have to quit and restart after this comment.
I've actually never witnessed this, but I hear it so often I'm beginning to believe the issue exists - but perhaps only for the Windows version. The few times I've had to use windows in the past few years has given me the experience that all browsers tend to be rather sluggish on it... oh well, that's what you get for using subOS. Oh, and I keep Firefox running for days, even weeks, and have generally around 100 tabs open at any time. There was a time when my average was closer to or even over 200 tabs, and back then I had only 512MB's of RAM - yet I have no idea what this memory use issue so many talk about is.
Not seeing what kind of mess the source code is may help some people sleep. Having identified one security breach since I moved from proprietary OS to open source one in 2002, leading to less than a percent of any and all applications I use being proprietary, and that breach was because of a bug in wordpress and compromised only my web server, really helps me sleep better. Before that breaks were normal - yet I didn't even run any server software meant to be accessed from outside back then.
You know, we don't have to like, or even accept something someone or something does just because it's legal. There is such things for example as "bad behavior".
In fact I even believe seeing a table when I was just a wee child... My daddy told me not to touch it, fearing I would break the expensive table. Of course we never had one, but I heard that one of our richer neighbors had TWO tables! Imagine the luxury! But I guess it's like that when you get into hardcore decorating.
Emotional distress caused by invasion of privacy sounds viable to me, however IANAL.
Considering that I personally, as well as several people I know, experience anxiety from what we know - and what we *don't* know about things we know - about cyber privacy invasions by corporations and nations (as well as cracker, terrorist and/or criminal organizations) tracking, profiling, spying, trading the information, etc. etc. - I don't find hard at all to believe that proving harm caused by illegal actions of this short would not necessary be that hard.
After all, you have to remember, these laws came from peoples demand because they felt threatened by them. Is it then hard to see how a court could see violations of such crimes having caused harm?
Started out quite sensibly, then went totally bananas beginning from the China thingy... I mean, how many Chinese care (or even know) how wealthy their nation is? The only ones, outside the rich minority and ruling class (the "communist" party, the rich and western corporations), who care about keeping the Chinese socio-economical system as it is are greedy multinational corporations and extreme-capitalistic countries like USA.
The average Chinese, if they were given free access to information couldn't care less - for them the system needs to change. Oh, but that would make things more expensive for us wealthy westerners. Too fscking bad.
It's because such tests are costly and unconvient for diagnosing when (proper even) diagnosis can cheap and easily proven via neuropsychiatrics. Also diagnose this way might diagnose multiple other possible diagnosis. The neurophysical reasons were found in testing difference between "normal" and ADHD people, it's not necessarily fit for diagnosing ADHD.
I have lately ran win 7 on one of my system and still get annoyed of it's lackings. Even though it's best of windows systems so far, that really does not mean much.
FUD Reichmeister strikes again. Nothing works perfectly for every(one|thing) when it comes to OS's, so your partly right, although when the comparison is with MS Bullshit...
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God, please do the latter one already!
Yeah - I'm always baffled, amused and a little bit sad to see how Yanks are so willing to rush into defense of their corporations committing "legalized tax fraud" against them. Instead of talking about what taxes they should be paying or not here in Europe, maybe they should focus on why the taxes of US company are being paid not-USA-land.
I was starting to wonder if anyone had made this point :)
To my understanding the point of unlimited data is to have unlimited data. Besides you don't need HD for video calls, let alone plain voice calls via internet.
And unless their outdated, any video service today probably defaults to maximum resolution of the device. However not necessary of the device that connects to ISP, it may also be a tablet, laptop or even desktop PC that's using wi-fi hotspot shared from the phone. In fact I'm currently connecting that way from home too - unfortunately that means I have no connection at home when I'm not there, which means I can't connect home remotely, but lately I've had no need for that anyway.
I'm not from US though - around here this kind of use is not even questioned. You pay for the data rate and you use it however you wish.
I'm not expecting you're willing to explain what is it about this small group, which you're correct to say the ISP doesn't likely even care about, that makes them dorks?
And that, if you don't get it, was a rhetorical question, as you already associated circumventing an artificial limitation with illogical anti-social vandalism, without any logical connection whatsoever. Oh, and also doing it as AC.
Well put.
The problem is that nobody understands what net neutrality actually is and they get distracted by "free" stuff that takes away their FREEdom.
Sorry, but could you explain what exactly is it you are referring to with 'distracted by "free" stuff that takes away their FREEdom'? :)
Please understand I'm only asking because I'm not sure I understand and I don't mean anything else by it. I'm not like many people who act and feel like they got it right even when they 1st had to come up with something that the other person "might have meant"
For mobile phones, the BTS's are very rare, so you share it with many people. Its totally different for cable bound internet. Or even wifi that then goes over cables again for that matter. There is a technical argument in throttling videos.
So I completely agree with them doing this. Maybe they should throttle all traffic, and not just videos, because its probably hard to decide what is video and what is not from the ISP perspective (except its unencrypted).
I've noticed mobile phone apps (whether it's browser, app for specific video site or video generic video player) to pretty much limit the maximum resolution (where possible - boy this kind of throttling must be annoying when the site/service doesn't serve but one resolution, and that resolution is HD) to what the device is actually capable, but not all mobile devices or even just phones (and yes, a tablet with SIM - or any other means for calls/sms/data on mobile network - are phones by definition, although even if tables are not counted it's still true) are below HD, let alone limited to just 480p.
IMHO, a data plan, just like any other type of connection deal with ISP is priced by either amount of data or transfer rate; or both. Any limitations by protocol, data type, etc. aren't compatible with how I understand net neutrality - and no, I don't consider net neutrality to be just about those hosting data but also (and in fact first-most about consumer rights).
I'd be pretty pissed (although routing my data through ssh-pipe to proxy server would be trivial to me) even though my mobile devices are all 480p or less, but then I use my phone as wi-fi hotspot at home to provide connectivity for all my computers... but I'm guessing that in the US just having a data plan doesn't automatically mean you're even allowed to share the connection - It's so much simpler when what you're buying is simply connectivity, plain and simple, and what you do with the connectivity is up to you. Anything else, for me, is horseshit.
After a year or more of taking break from slashdot it's kinda funny, though also sad, to see in the very first thread that nothings changed in the way how large number of yanks always willing and eager to defend large corporations right to kick them in the face and surprise bearfuck them :P
I pay 29.90€ a month, and this is prepaid (=more expensive), for unlimited calls/sms/data (4G) - and that means unlimited. Although the speed rarely measures as said 50mbps, it's still mostly fairly good (generally over 30, usually almost 40 & always over 25mbps).
...for unlimited calls, SMS & data (4G) for month; and it's prepaid.
Excellent reply, too bad /me has no mod points :)
About the second suggestion: it could work, if getting any number of people enough to do it would work; which it doesn't, hence it wont work.
Firefox is the slowest, least memory efficient browser out there. It regularly breaks several GB of memory after only a day's use. In fact, Firefox is already up to nearly 3GB of memory use, which is somewhat worrying for a 32-bit process. Looks like I'm going to have to quit and restart after this comment.
I've actually never witnessed this, but I hear it so often I'm beginning to believe the issue exists - but perhaps only for the Windows version. The few times I've had to use windows in the past few years has given me the experience that all browsers tend to be rather sluggish on it... oh well, that's what you get for using subOS. Oh, and I keep Firefox running for days, even weeks, and have generally around 100 tabs open at any time. There was a time when my average was closer to or even over 200 tabs, and back then I had only 512MB's of RAM - yet I have no idea what this memory use issue so many talk about is.
So do I, yet I still oppose most, if not all, extensions to copyright laws both here in Europe as in the USA.
Misquoting and twisting someone elses arguments counts as no argument.
Not seeing what kind of mess the source code is may help some people sleep. Having identified one security breach since I moved from proprietary OS to open source one in 2002, leading to less than a percent of any and all applications I use being proprietary, and that breach was because of a bug in wordpress and compromised only my web server, really helps me sleep better. Before that breaks were normal - yet I didn't even run any server software meant to be accessed from outside back then.
You know, we don't have to like, or even accept something someone or something does just because it's legal. There is such things for example as "bad behavior".
@gstoddart: I think you broke the capitalist...
The quality of AC's has really gone downhill if they call that hacking now...
In fact I even believe seeing a table when I was just a wee child... My daddy told me not to touch it, fearing I would break the expensive table. Of course we never had one, but I heard that one of our richer neighbors had TWO tables! Imagine the luxury! But I guess it's like that when you get into hardcore decorating.
Emotional distress caused by invasion of privacy sounds viable to me, however IANAL.
Considering that I personally, as well as several people I know, experience anxiety from what we know - and what we *don't* know about things we know - about cyber privacy invasions by corporations and nations (as well as cracker, terrorist and/or criminal organizations) tracking, profiling, spying, trading the information, etc. etc. - I don't find hard at all to believe that proving harm caused by illegal actions of this short would not necessary be that hard.
After all, you have to remember, these laws came from peoples demand because they felt threatened by them. Is it then hard to see how a court could see violations of such crimes having caused harm?
Started out quite sensibly, then went totally bananas beginning from the China thingy... I mean, how many Chinese care (or even know) how wealthy their nation is? The only ones, outside the rich minority and ruling class (the "communist" party, the rich and western corporations), who care about keeping the Chinese socio-economical system as it is are greedy multinational corporations and extreme-capitalistic countries like USA.
The average Chinese, if they were given free access to information couldn't care less - for them the system needs to change. Oh, but that would make things more expensive for us wealthy westerners. Too fscking bad.
...and then we blame internet for terrorism....
It's because such tests are costly and unconvient for diagnosing when (proper even) diagnosis can cheap and easily proven via neuropsychiatrics. Also diagnose this way might diagnose multiple other possible diagnosis. The neurophysical reasons
were found in testing difference between "normal" and ADHD people, it's not necessarily fit for diagnosing ADHD.
Some of us prefer getting satan fucked, you insensitive clod!
I have lately ran win 7 on one of my system and still get annoyed of it's lackings. Even though it's best of windows systems so far, that really does not mean much.
windows: where only way to make font processing fast was to do it in kernel spacen. What a crappy OS.
FUD Reichmeister strikes again. Nothing works perfectly for every(one|thing) when it comes to OS's, so your partly right, although when the comparison is with MS Bullshit...